or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › Audio › Speakers › Definitive Owners Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Definitive Owners Thread - Page 923

post #27661 of 30944
Quote:
Originally Posted by JAMES MCHUGHES View Post

Not necessarily tongue.gif
clr3000.1

Mounted up top the brackets holding the CLR3000 are bolted to top of entertainmentshelf

I thought about finding some custom L brackets and putting mine right above my TV pointing down. It was just easier to put it on the floor and adjust the angle using 1/4" bolts. Only cost 30 cents vs. having custom L brackets made. Knowing my luck I'd come home and see that the CLR3000 came loose from the wall and crashed onto my TV.
post #27662 of 30944
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ratified View Post

Well my Sm 350s arrived today; wasnt looking for them till Monday; and I'm thoroughly pleased!! Who am I kidding, I have a big ol smile on my face!biggrin.gif Loving the metal dome tweeters vs the silk domes in the speakers the DefTechs replaced. Now to finish replacing the rest of the setup. I did finally find a factory refurb CLR 2002 for my center, so thats on its way soon! Considering some BP1X for surrounds. Another question on the surrounds, would it be ok to use them in a 5.1 setup with them mounted straight to the side of the listening position without any room behind the listening position, aka the couch is against the backwall, since they are bipolar? Thanks and Im glad I made the switch to DefTechs! biggrin.gif

They will probably be OK if they are mounted on the side walls about 18" from any corner. That would probably be about right since your ears would be about 12-18 inches from the back wall when seated. I did something similar before I moved my couch forward about 24". It sounded OK but putting direct radiating speakers at my 90° position and installing in-wall bi-polar speakers in the back wall was a whole new ballgame. Mounting them on the same plane as your ears or maybe a bit higher if that isn't possible would be better than mounting them up high. It doesn't matter that much with direct radiating speakers but bi-pole speakers are a little trickier with placement. I'd make some temporary stands and try different placements before securing them to the wall.
post #27663 of 30944
Quote:
Originally Posted by truwarrior22 View Post

Nice job mounting that center. Must sounds really nice. I rather have my center higher then too low. Is that a Salamander Design entertainment center?
Yes its a Salamander Design

If anyones interested im selling those 2 SVS passive cylinder subs they are some serious subs they do have the 12.3 drivers there is great condition. I will be selling the subs and the Samson SX1200 amp together its a 1200 watt amp and powers them beautifully also have the original boxes. The only reason selling is I downsized a bit (wife request) and replaced them with a Trinity.
post #27664 of 30944
Quote:
Originally Posted by JAMES MCHUGHES View Post

Yes its a Salamander Design
If anyones interested im selling those 2 SVS passive cylinder subs they are some serious subs they do have the 12.3 drivers there is great condition. I will be selling the subs and the Samson SX1200 amp together its a 1200 watt amp and powers them beautifully also have the original boxes. The only reason selling is I downsized a bit (wife request) and replaced them with a Trinity.

Here are some pictures of my SVS subs and amp for sale


post #27665 of 30944
Quote:
Originally Posted by JAMES MCHUGHES View Post

Yes its a Salamander Design
If anyones interested im selling those 2 SVS passive cylinder subs they are some serious subs they do have the 12.3 drivers there is great condition. I will be selling the subs and the Samson SX1200 amp together its a 1200 watt amp and powers them beautifully also have the original boxes. The only reason selling is I downsized a bit (wife request) and replaced them with a Trinity.

Here are some pictures of my SVS subs and amp for sale


post #27666 of 30944
Quote:
Originally Posted by JAMES MCHUGHES View Post

Here are some pictures of my SVS subs and amp for sale



Here are some pics of my new Trinity


post #27667 of 30944
how much for the subs and amp?
post #27668 of 30944
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikullla View Post

how much for the subs and amp?
Sent you a private message Mikulla
post #27669 of 30944
If anyones interested just shoot me a private message
post #27670 of 30944
I just ordered a package deal, BP-8060ST, CS-8040HD, and, SR8040BP. After looking at the physical size of the speakers, I'm thinking the center is going to be just a bit to large for my setup.
I am wondering if the Mythos XTR-40 would work with everything else as a center speaker?
post #27671 of 30944
Quote:
Originally Posted by JAMES MCHUGHES View Post

Yes its a Salamander Design
If anyones interested im selling those 2 SVS passive cylinder subs they are some serious subs they do have the 12.3 drivers there is great condition. I will be selling the subs and the Samson SX1200 amp together its a 1200 watt amp and powers them beautifully also have the original boxes. The only reason selling is I downsized a bit (wife request) and replaced them with a Trinity.

Nice, I have the Hampton series, not cheap but very nice looking and sturdy! One of the best parts of my setup lol
post #27672 of 30944
Hello there,
I'm looking for some speaker stands to be behind my couch that will fit the Studiomonitors 350. I looked at the Definitive stands that are made for these speakers but they are a bit short. I would need something that's at least 30" in height. Anyone have any suggestions? Not looking to spend too much on these.
post #27673 of 30944
Hi guys, slightly off topic : I got the Def Tech BP8060ST bundle and this is my first ever. I am enjoying movies and TV shows from past one month, and now want to jump on to some music.

Is there any Audio CD or any good collection of songs (all in one), which I can use to test / enjoy the system ?
So far, I have tried some mp3 tracks from my usb drive connected to the denon 2313 receiver. I do have a PS3 to play the cds.

Thanks!
post #27674 of 30944
Hi... Does anyone out there have any first hand experience comparing the 7001sc to the 8060 or 8080's. I haven't been able to listen to them side by side and would like some feedback from those who have. I have seen mixed reviews with some saying the older 7001's were superior and better built...others saying the imaging and transparency of the newer models is better. I already have a supercube reference sub so the bottom of the bottom end is covered.

They are going into a large (22 x 32 w 12' ceilings) multipurpose HT / listening room ( see layout below) and will be used 50/50 for HT and critical listening. I mainly listen to classical and jazz. I can get either the 7001's or the 8060's for about the same price.

I really appreciate your feedback.

post #27675 of 30944
i'm thinking studio monitors for front left, right and also center channel. 8080's rears and a vat-15h sub
post #27676 of 30944
I listened to some of the definitive speakers in Best Buy/Magnolia as well as Ovation Audio and thought they sounded pretty good. I may upgrade my speakers later this year. Since I'm already set in the subs area I'd probably be looking at the BP Towers w/o the sub and the same for the center and rear channels.

Has anyone compared the Definitive to the Polk RTi series? I'm wondering how much of an upgrade they would be and if it would be worth it.

Also, can you expect any kind of discounts on Definitive Speakers?
post #27677 of 30944
Quote:
Originally Posted by naturdoc View Post

Hi... Does anyone out there have any first hand experience comparing the 7001sc to the 8060 or 8080's. I haven't been able to listen to them side by side and would like some feedback from those who have. I have seen mixed reviews with some saying the older 7001's were superior and better built...others saying the imaging and transparency of the newer models is better. I already have a supercube reference sub so the bottom of the bottom end is covered.
They are going into a large (22 x 32 w 12' ceilings) multipurpose HT / listening room ( see layout below) and will be used 50/50 for HT and critical listening. I mainly listen to classical and jazz. I can get either the 7001's or the 8060's for about the same price.
I really appreciate your feedback.
7001s all day long. Bigger drivers, more powerful powered sub section, 4 drivers vs 3, rock solid build quality. My only question is how are you getting 7001s as they have been out of production for a bit. Also, 7001s would be better in such a large room but I would still recommend a high quality dedicated sub for a room that size!
post #27678 of 30944
Quote:
Originally Posted by JAMES MCHUGHES View Post

Here are some pics of my new Trinity



Wow! That trinity must be thumpin awesome! It must be a beast! How does it compare to the exiting svs cylinders? Congrats!
post #27679 of 30944
Thanks...I already have a reference supercube in the room. A dealer here has a pair of 7001's he will part with for $2K, which is the same price as a pair of 8060's. I talked with someone at deftech today and his opinion was that the 8060 was an all around better speaker especially in the imaging dept even though the bass would be less than the 7001's. I am a bit of an imaging nut when it comes to listening to music and he made me think the 7001's would give me a very large but diffuse soundstage, which kind of scares me. The 8060's also don't have the option of running the woofers facing in or out as there are no L or R speakers,.

Any thoughts on the imaging??

thanks
post #27680 of 30944
I have a 5 channel Parasound amp and the Parasound 7100 processor. Soon I am going to switch to 5 mono amps for each channel working with the Parasound 7100. I am going to either go with 5 B&K mono amps or 5 Rotel digital mono amps. In my opinion theres not a receiver alive that can touch the sound of separates. Thats just my opinion. The sound is more poweful and clearer due to the processor side interfering with the amp section. The channel separation is incredible. I would go that route if I had the money. You can even go with cheaper Outlaw separates and I garuntee it will sound incredible. J.H.
post #27681 of 30944
Quote:
Originally Posted by naturdoc View Post

Thanks...I already have a reference supercube in the room. A dealer here has a pair of 7001's he will part with for $2K, which is the same price as a pair of 8060's. I talked with someone at deftech today and his opinion was that the 8060 was an all around better speaker especially in the imaging dept even though the bass would be less than the 7001's. I am a bit of an imaging nut when it comes to listening to music and he made me think the 7001's would give me a very large but diffuse soundstage, which kind of scares me. The 8060's also don't have the option of running the woofers facing in or out as there are no L or R speakers,.
Any thoughts on the imaging??
thanks

Hm, my bp7000 image pretty well, but bipolar might not be for you. I love these for movies and games, but for music I'm split. Sound really good for most songs especially live concerts. I think the sm65 might be better for your taste?
post #27682 of 30944
I admire all you folks who have your towers but alas, in my situation, 3.0 or 3.1 bookshelf speakers would be a better but and I have some questions for anyone willing to help out.

1) Does anyone own or have checked out the Studio 65 speakers and what is your take on them?

2) Though I have heard one could be placed on its side for a center, does having the passive radiator on one side cause an issue vs an 8060 center?

3) Not to break the thread - has anyone compared the Studio 55 or 65 with the AON 3?

Any help would be appreciated. I am hoping to get FL, FR and C speakers for 1500. I already have a sub and will worry about surrounds next year.

To me, the GoldenEar AON 3 and Studio 65 seem like great bang for the buck.

Thanks in advance.
post #27683 of 30944
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phrehdd View Post

3) Not to break the thread - has anyone compared the Studio 55 or 65 with the AON 3?

I'm thinking there will be a difference because of the different driver size and the ribbon tweeter in the Aon. From my experience with both dome tweeters and ribbon tweeters, the ribbons seem to be slightly more accurate with a slightly brighter sound. I have no idea what the ribbons in the Aon sound like though. No one even close to me deal with GoldenEar speakers.
post #27684 of 30944
Quote:
Originally Posted by naturdoc View Post

Thanks...I already have a reference supercube in the room. A dealer here has a pair of 7001's he will part with for $2K, which is the same price as a pair of 8060's. I talked with someone at deftech today and his opinion was that the 8060 was an all around better speaker especially in the imaging dept even though the bass would be less than the 7001's. I am a bit of an imaging nut when it comes to listening to music and he made me think the 7001's would give me a very large but diffuse soundstage, which kind of scares me. The 8060's also don't have the option of running the woofers facing in or out as there are no L or R speakers,.
Any thoughts on
the imaging??
thanks
Have you heard the mythos st vs the bp8060s? If imaging is your game then mythos st may be the way to go. With that being said, I personally feel the 7001s will satisfy your imaging requirements if you take the time to set them up properly. First they need to be AT LEAST 18 inches away from the wall. Then you can really dial in imaging by how toed in they are. Aiming tweeters directly at your ears gives more accurate imaging IMHO. Having them parallel with wall gives a more diffuse sound. Now whoever you spoke with at definitive is loco in my opinion. 6.5" drivers with 7001 vs 4.5" with 8060 is a tremendous advantage for 7001. Plus you are getting an extra rear driver, 1500 watt sub amp vs 300, a much larger cabinet, and an incredible deal. All add up to being able to play louder, with less distortion, better bass, and will be much easier to blend with your reference sub. If you are music only then I would CONSIDER mythos st but I honestly prefer my bp7000s for 2 channel listening more than my previous mythos st's. They just required more time to position to get them to sing. Inches really do matter with them. With that being said, my bp7000s really provide an incredible image and something else that my mythos st speakers couldn't do as well....an amazing soundstage. The sense of depth and space is incredible. Direct radiating speakers, even mega expensive ones, began to sound flat and 2 dimensional to me after I had my bp7000s setup properly. I have heard the new bp 8000 series several times and agree the lack of the extra rear driver gives them a less diffuse mor direct radiating sound, but to me this just translates into easier setup and less bipolarness, if that is a word. Best solution is to a/b the speakers and make your own judgement. Before making the decision, please listen to 7001, mythos st, and 8060. A/b if possible. Nothing against all the 8000 series owners out there (I own and use the 8080 center channel).........but IMHO, I personally think the bp7000/7001/bp30s are in a class all by them selves. Good luck on your decision and kudos for taking your time and doing the research!
post #27685 of 30944
Quote:
Originally Posted by jevans64 View Post

I'm thinking there will be a difference because of the different driver size and the ribbon tweeter in the Aon. From my experience with both dome tweeters and ribbon tweeters, the ribbons seem to be slightly more accurate with a slightly brighter sound. I have no idea what the ribbons in the Aon sound like though. No one even close to me deal with GoldenEar speakers.

I have not heard the new studiomonitors, but was fortunate enough to recently meet sandy gross at a local av shop and he personally did a demo of his goldenear towers and the smaller of the two aon models. I have to say that the little aon bookshelves are amazing and were far and away the most impressive speakers he played. To me they came very close to the triton towers for far less money. And the ribbon tweeters were not bright....silky smooth. And he was using a common low power solid state amp to drive everything. They should definitely be on your audition list along with the definitive sm series. Sandy is just an amazing guy and really makes great stuff!
post #27686 of 30944
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phrehdd View Post

I admire all you folks who have your towers but alas, in my situation, 3.0 or 3.1 bookshelf speakers would be a better but and I have some questions for anyone willing to help out.
1) Does anyone own or have checked out the Studio 65 speakers and what is your take on them?
2) Though I have heard one could be placed on its side for a center, does having the passive radiator on one side cause an issue vs an 8060 center?
3) Not to break the thread - has anyone compared the Studio 55 or 65 with the AON 3?
Any help would be appreciated. I am hoping to get FL, FR and C speakers for 1500. I already have a sub and will worry about surrounds next year.
To me, the GoldenEar AON 3 and Studio 65 seem like great bang for the buck.
Thanks in advance.
Hello Phredd, of course I am biased about the sound of the SM 55 and 65 vs the competition smile.gif. Having said that, it's OK to put an SM 65 horizontally for a center channel speaker. The bass radiator will be fine (assuming you are not going into a cabinet in which it fires directly into the side of the cabinet). Compared to the CS 8060HD center, it's less money... but the CS 8060 has a powered subwoofer. That really helps with center channel vocal and left - right scenes. Thanks for your interest in DT! Best, Joe
post #27687 of 30944
Quote:
Originally Posted by naturdoc View Post

Thanks...I already have a reference supercube in the room. A dealer here has a pair of 7001's he will part with for $2K, which is the same price as a pair of 8060's. I talked with someone at deftech today and his opinion was that the 8060 was an all around better speaker especially in the imaging dept even though the bass would be less than the 7001's. I am a bit of an imaging nut when it comes to listening to music and he made me think the 7001's would give me a very large but diffuse soundstage, which kind of scares me. The 8060's also don't have the option of running the woofers facing in or out as there are no L or R speakers,.
Any thoughts on the imaging??
thanks
Hi Nature, as good as the BP 8060's are - and they are wonderful - the 7001's are great speakers too. Remember to trust your own ears! If you like the sound of those, buy them. There are loads of 7001 fans on this site, and they can't be all wrong smile.gif. Having said that, there are a lot of 8060 fans here too. I love how those sound, and yes, the midrange and upper end is great on them. I just now read your original post above, and as you have the SuperCube Reference already... I would lean toward the 8060's myself. You have a great foundation with that sub, and you say the upper end and imaging are really important to you. The crossover in the BP 8060 is a more up to date product, and with the 2nd generation BDSS drivers they give a wonderful sound stage. I hope this helps - best, Joe
post #27688 of 30944
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phrehdd View Post

I admire all you folks who have your towers but alas, in my situation, 3.0 or 3.1 bookshelf speakers would be a better but and I have some questions for anyone willing to help out.
1) Does anyone own or have checked out the Studio 65 speakers and what is your take on them?
2) Though I have heard one could be placed on its side for a center, does having the passive radiator on one side cause an issue vs an 8060 center?
3) Not to break the thread - has anyone compared the Studio 55 or 65 with the AON 3?
Any help would be appreciated. I am hoping to get FL, FR and C speakers for 1500. I already have a sub and will worry about surrounds next year.
To me, the GoldenEar AON 3 and Studio 65 seem like great bang for the buck.
Thanks in advance.


1) I'm using the SM65's as my current mains with a Mythos Ten for the center. The 65's are good speakers with very nice bass response. Listen to Morph the Cat (Donald Fagen) in stereo, you'll understand just how deep these bookshelves will dig. You can easily use them without a sub for music (but you'll get better sound if you do). The soundstage is very wide and imaging is very precise. Listening to World In My Eyes (Depeche Mode), the various electronic pops and synth pulses are razor sharp and the electric snares are a mile wide.

My 65's are 2' from the front wall (measured from the back baffle) and 6' from the side walls. They also have a way of disappearing from the sound (transparancy) so the music doesn't sound like it's coming out of the boxes located in front of you. The large soundstage definitely helps to "hide" the speakers.

2) I went through a similar debate in my head - whether to pick up a 3rd SM65 to use as a center or get a powered center, like the 8060/8080. The Mythos Ten I'm using now sounds great but I might take that into the bedroom since it's easily wall mounted. I did try laying the 65 on its side to see how it looks, but coming from Mythos Ten, the 65 looks stupid laying on the side with the bulging radiator on one end. It sounds fine but I can't have it look that way. So I'm likely going with a powered center.

3) I've not heard the GoldenEar or the SM55 so I won't comment.

$900 for the pair and project a sound much larger than they physically are. They're powered from a Denon 3312 using Kimber Kable 4PR.
post #27689 of 30944
Quote:
Originally Posted by gps470 View Post

Hi guys, slightly off topic : I got the Def Tech BP8060ST bundle and this is my first ever. I am enjoying movies and TV shows from past one month, and now want to jump on to some music.
Is there any Audio CD or any good collection of songs (all in one), which I can use to test / enjoy the system ?
So far, I have tried some mp3 tracks from my usb drive connected to the denon 2313 receiver. I do have a PS3 to play the cds.
Thanks!
Hi GPS, I have put together some compilation CD's over the years, but some of the "demo" cuts are not necessarily that great musically. I suggest you go back to some of your old favorites. You won't believe how good they sound on your new system! Also - many public libraries now have a pretty extensive collection of CD and DVD titles that you can check out for a couple of days, no charge. This can be a really good way to dig into some new music, or a genre you aren't familiar with (jazz, classical etc). Let us know how it goes OK? Best, Joe
post #27690 of 30944
Quote:
Originally Posted by Accuphase View Post

1) I'm using the SM65's as my current mains with a Mythos Ten for the center. The 65's are good speakers with very nice bass response. Listen to Morph the Cat (Donald Fagen) in stereo, you'll understand just how deep these bookshelves will dig. You can easily use them without a sub for music (but you'll get better sound if you do). The soundstage is very wide and imaging is very precise. Listening to World In My Eyes (Depeche Mode), the various electronic pops and synth pulses are razor sharp and the electric snares are a mile wide.
My 65's are 2' from the front wall (measured from the back baffle) and 6' from the side walls. They also have a way of disappearing from the sound (transparancy) so the music doesn't sound like it's coming out of the boxes located in front of you. The large soundstage definitely helps to "hide" the speakers.
2) I went through a similar debate in my head - whether to pick up a 3rd SM65 to use as a center or get a powered center, like the 8060/8080. The Mythos Ten I'm using now sounds great but I might take that into the bedroom since it's easily wall mounted. I did try laying the 65 on its side to see how it looks, but coming from Mythos Ten, the 65 looks stupid laying on the side with the bulging radiator on one end. It sounds fine but I can't have it look that way. So I'm likely going with a powered center.
3) I've not heard the GoldenEar or the SM55 so I won't comment.
$900 for the pair and project a sound much larger than they physically are. They're powered from a Denon 3312 using Kimber Kable 4PR.
I am glad to hear you love the 65's, Accuphase! One of our VP's owns those with some Parasound separates, and he raves about them. Best, Joe
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Speakers
AVS › AVS Forum › Audio › Speakers › Definitive Owners Thread