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post #27931 of 29422
1/11/13 at 9:28pm
Well my 8040 center and surrounds came in to the shop I ordered from but not the 8060 towers yet...Got mixed up from their main warehouse or something. Very legit place so I'm not worried. Also going to order the HSU VTF-15H this week too. So now I have pm 1000's as left/right for a couple days till towers come in. Better then no speaks.
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post #27932 of 29422
1/12/13 at 5:46am
I've been considering getting a pair of PM 1000's to use as heights/wides for my system. I'm pretty much limited to a smaller speaker because of the layout of my room. My main speakers are:

BP 2000 L/R
CLR 2000 center
BP 10 L/R surround
C1 back surround

I've read how people have used these as their mains and are pretty happy with them. Just wondered if they would blend well in my setup.


Thanks,Red
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post #27933 of 29422
1/12/13 at 6:06am
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Originally Posted by Red Dolittle View Post

I've been considering getting a pair of PM 1000's to use as heights/wides for my system. I'm pretty much limited to a smaller speaker because of the layout of my room. My main speakers are:

BP 2000 L/R
CLR 2000 center
BP 10 L/R surround
C1 back surround

I've read how people have used these as their mains and are pretty happy with them. Just wondered if they would blend well in my setup.


Thanks,Red

They may work ok for heights but not wides. The height speakers are meant for ambiance and subtle effects, so you can get by with a much smaller speaker for those, but even that is not ideal. As far as wides go, it is recommended that you use something that is either the same as your mains, or very close. With you having BP-2000s as your L+R's, I would only recommend using either BP-2000s, BP-30's, BP-10b's, SM-65's,ect.....If I were in your shoes, I would not pollute my setup with those PM-1000's, but rather, wait until you can afford the proper wides that I mentioned above.
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post #27934 of 29422
1/12/13 at 8:02am
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They may work ok for heights but not wides. The height speakers are meant for ambiance and subtle effects, so you can get by with a much smaller speaker for those, but even that is not ideal. As far as wides go, it is recommended that you use something that is either the same as your mains, or very close. With you having BP-2000s as your L+R's, I would only recommend using either BP-2000s, BP-30's, BP-10b's, SM-65's,ect.....If I were in your shoes, I would not pollute my setup with those PM-1000's, but rather, wait until you can afford the proper wides that I mentioned above.

What is so bad about the Pro Monitor 1000's? The have the same aluminum tweeters and 5 1/4 inch drivers as in the Mythos top of the line super towers. and the sm 65's, or any newer bp tower. The wave guide or whatever they are called are a little different but thats it. Only difference is enclosure which I know is part of the equation. But they can't be "polluting." right?
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post #27935 of 29422
1/12/13 at 8:37am
Well, his mains got 4-6.5" drivers. PM 1000s won't be able to keep up with them. The minimum would be SM 450s but towers are certainly better.
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post #27936 of 29422
1/12/13 at 9:17am
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Originally Posted by logicators View Post

Well, his mains got 4-6.5" drivers. PM 1000s won't be able to keep up with them. The minimum would be SM 450s but towers are certainly better.

I see that as using them as wides, but as heights? I don't see the polluting factor? I guess i'm trying to justify using my pm 1000's as heights with my bp8060 towers
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post #27937 of 29422
1/12/13 at 9:25am
Haven't really seen much on here about the mythos xtr line, but there are thousands of pages so....

I'm thinking of going with the Mythos xtr 40 for left center and right, and the mythos xtr 20 for surround.
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pro cinema 800 set, at a much cheaper price. The mythos setup will be 3k with a sub, the latter is 1200ish. New Denon 1713 probably running it. Room is a family room that dimensionally isn't that large but has a two story ceiling. Everything must be wall mount. Any advice on weather the extra 2k is worth it for the mythos setup? The price is really turning me off right now and this is no dedicated theater room or anything.

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Edited by SweetTreat - 1/12/13 at 12:08pm
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post #27938 of 29422
1/12/13 at 9:29am
I really like my def tech speakers. My setup is composed of these types:

Fronts- 2 BP7006s
Center and Heights-3 CLR-2300s
Wides-2 Power Monitor 500s
Surrounds and Surround Rears-4 BPVX/Ps
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post #27939 of 29422
1/12/13 at 10:02am
I have to ask, what are wides?
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post #27940 of 29422
1/12/13 at 10:54am
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Originally Posted by TepEvan View Post

I have to ask, what are wides?

They are used for "wide" channels which some ht receivers now feature. They basically matrix the front l/r channels to add more ambiance to the front sound stage. There is also a "height" channel on some av receivers, most will do height and wide. Known as 11.1
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post #27941 of 29422
1/12/13 at 12:16pm
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

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Originally Posted by logicators View Post

Well, his mains got 4-6.5" drivers. PM 1000s won't be able to keep up with them. The minimum would be SM 450s but towers are certainly better.

I see that as using them as wides, but as heights? I don't see the polluting factor? I guess i'm trying to justify using my pm 1000's as heights with my bp8060 towers

For heights they should do just fine.
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post #27942 of 29422
1/12/13 at 12:49pm
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Originally Posted by TepEvan View Post

I have to ask, what are wides?

http://www.hometheater.com/news/050109audyssey/?q=news/050109audyssey
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post #27943 of 29422
1/12/13 at 1:03pm
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Originally Posted by SweetTreat View Post

Haven't really seen much on here about the mythos xtr line, but there are thousands of pages so....

I'm thinking of going with the Mythos xtr 40 for left center and right, and the mythos xtr 20 for surround.
OR
pro cinema 800 set, at a much cheaper price. The mythos setup will be 3k with a sub, the latter is 1200ish. New Denon 1713 probably running it. Room is a family room that dimensionally isn't that large but has a two story ceiling. Everything must be wall mount. Any advice on weather the extra 2k is worth it for the mythos setup? The price is really turning me off right now and this is no dedicated theater room or anything.

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There is a Definitive Mythos Thread that will have more on the XTR line....

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1100995/definitive-technology-mythos-series-thread
Edited by yosh7 - 1/12/13 at 1:11pm
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post #27944 of 29422
1/12/13 at 2:42pm
I'd like to thank everyone who gave their thoughts on my post. I guess I'll just go audition these speakers and take it from there.

I just got a new receiver that has the heights/wides option and was like a kid with a new toy and wanted to try it out !


Thanks again !
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post #27945 of 29422
1/12/13 at 4:02pm
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

Really? Hmm, maybe I can get a discount...more. I thought about asking if I could get another pair of 8040 surrounds for the cheap price. So you say the ship from world wide stereo? Is that your dealer or the place you ordered from online? Mine are coming into a place here in Eugene, OR called Oldfield's. They ordered a bunch of def tech for their store and mine is coming in with it.
Picked them up from FedEx on Thursday night, didn't want to hang around all day Friday waiting. Set them up on Friday, ran Audyssey, checked levels with an SPL meter. The 8060s sound very good. I'm more into music than Home Theater, so I wanted a full range Stereo pair up front. The soundstage and detail of the 8060s is amazing. I may switch out the 8040 surrounds with my Boston Acoustic VR-M50s which were my mains before the 8060s. But I can't complain I got the 8040 center and surrounds and 8060s, a $3000 value for $1900. The kicker is I have wanted the 8060s since I read a review of them in Absolute Sound over a year ago. I also own the Def Tech Pro Sub 1000 so I have a full Def Tech system now.
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post #27946 of 29422
1/12/13 at 4:26pm
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Picked them up from FedEx on Thursday night, didn't want to hang around all day Friday waiting. Set them up on Friday, ran Audyssey, checked levels with an SPL meter. The 8060s sound very good. I'm more into music than Home Theater, so I wanted a full range Stereo pair up front. The soundstage and detail of the 8060s is amazing. I may switch out the 8040 surrounds with my Boston Acoustic VR-M50s which were my mains before the 8060s. But I can't complain I got the 8040 center and surrounds and 8060s, a $3000 value for $1900. The kicker is I have wanted the 8060s since I read a review of them in Absolute Sound over a year ago. I also own the Def Tech Pro Sub 1000 so I have a full Def Tech system now.

Congrats on the system...I own the 8060-st's also and I love mine also...I'm like a kid every time I use them...wink.gif..lol

Enjoy!...and if you have any questions about them feel free to PM me..smile.gif
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post #27947 of 29422
1/12/13 at 5:19pm
Hey guys got a couple of questions. First of all ive got bp8s for my front and currently using a procenter 2000 for my center. I need to upgrade my center and wasthinking of getting the clr2002. But then there is also the 8040 center and finally also i could use a sm65 also. Which would be the best upgrade? I know the clr 2002 has gotten lots of good reviews. My next question is that due to a window in my front wall, my bp8s are a little closer than i would like them to be about 5 feet apart. I can move them further apart but one of bp8s rear firing drivers will be firing at a window that has some thick curtains. Should i try it out or will i compromise the bipolar sound? Thanks!
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post #27948 of 29422
1/12/13 at 6:17pm
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84

Really? Hmm, maybe I can get a discount...more. I thought about asking if I could get another pair of 8040 surrounds for the cheap price. So you say the ship from world wide stereo? Is that your dealer or the place you ordered from online? Mine are coming into a place here in Eugene, OR called Oldfield's. They ordered a bunch of def tech for their store and mine is coming in with it.

Picked them up from FedEx on Thursday night, didn't want to hang around all day Friday waiting. Set them up on Friday, ran Audyssey, checked levels with an SPL meter. The 8060s sound very good. I'm more into music than Home Theater, so I wanted a full range Stereo pair up front. The soundstage and detail of the 8060s is amazing. I may switch out the 8040 surrounds with my Boston Acoustic VR-M50s which were my mains before the 8060s. But I can't complain I got the 8040 center and surrounds and 8060s, a $3000 value for $1900. The kicker is I have wanted the 8060s since I read a review of them in Absolute Sound over a year ago. I also own the Def Tech Pro Sub 1000 so I have a full Def Tech system now.

Well my 8040 center and surrounds came in to the local store I ordered from but not the towers! Really frustrating. They are a top notch store and amazing customer service so i'm not worried about anything but I am a bit frustrated since they were supposed to be here last thursday! Also upon opening the surrounds I noticed the plastic lining wasn't covering the black finished plastic like it was on the center. There were a few minor scratches and small deformities in the finish of the paint. I'm not picky on stuff like that, more concerned with performance, but it makes we wonder if they were refurbs or something.
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post #27949 of 29422
1/12/13 at 6:27pm
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Hey guys got a couple of questions. First of all ive got bp8s for my front and currently using a procenter 2000 for my center. I need to upgrade my center and wasthinking of getting the clr2002. But then there is also the 8040 center and finally also i could use a sm65 also. Which would be the best upgrade? I know the clr 2002 has gotten lots of good reviews.

CLR2002 all the way. Larger drivers, better build quality, fuller sound. There is one on ebay auction right now.
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post #27950 of 29422
1/12/13 at 6:47pm
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CLR2002 all the way. Larger drivers, better build quality, fuller sound. There is one on ebay auction right now.

Really? Why is it better build quality? I just got my 8040 center. It is built out of the same mdf...Yea it has 4.5 instead of 5.25, but the 8040 are newer technology. Also has the 5x10 passive radiator. Just trying to figure out why a number of you say the older products are better than the newer ones?
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post #27951 of 29422
1/12/13 at 7:22pm
How would an sm55 work as a center compared to the 8040 with sm55s for the front left and right?
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post #27952 of 29422
1/12/13 at 7:38pm
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

Really? Why is it better build quality? I just got my 8040 center. It is built out of the same mdf...Yea it has 4.5 instead of 5.25, but the 8040 are newer technology. Also has the 5x10 passive radiator. Just trying to figure out why a number of you say the older products are better than the newer ones?

Because owners of the older line feel like there losing some of there thunder...wink.gif...jk I personally haven't heard the older line but I sure love my 8060 towers...smile.gif
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post #27953 of 29422
1/12/13 at 9:23pm
Hey, my current setup is a pair of BP10's crossed over at 80Hz and a pair of 15" subs that are flat to 15Hz in my room. I use a miniDSP for EQ, crossover, and delay and that goes to an EP4000 amp for the subs.

I just picked up a pair of BP2000TL towers to replace my BP10s, but I am not sure how to set them up to work with my current subs. All 4 subs would be at different distances from the listening position, so I think being able to set the delay for each is important. The only way to do that would be to set the towers to small, then run a sub out from my AVR to the miniDSP to the LFE in on the tower. This way, each tower would get LFE and all sub-crossover frequency bass, instead of just the bass for its channel though, correct?

If I do that, I would have to cross the towers over around 100Hz then set a HPF around 40Hz (if I want <40Hz going to the dedicated subs) in the miniDSP so the bass signal will go through the DSP.

I am not sure what to do. What would be the best way to setup the towers and use all 4 subs with the DSP?
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post #27954 of 29422
1/12/13 at 9:42pm
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

Really? Why is it better build quality? I just got my 8040 center. It is built out of the same mdf...Yea it has 4.5 instead of 5.25, but the 8040 are newer technology. Also has the 5x10 passive radiator. Just trying to figure out why a number of you say the older products are better than the newer ones?

I've heard both and feel the 2002 is a better sounding center. Tha larger drivers make a big difference when it comes to clarity of dialogue. Just my opinion based on my unscientific comparison. I'm sure the 8040 is nice but i would always choose the larger drivers for a center.
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post #27955 of 29422
1/13/13 at 2:34am
well, I pulled the trigger on an sm65 for the center and the 55s for the left and right. Thinking about getting the 45s for the rears or should I put another set of 55s since they are the surround channels? How about a set of pm1000s?
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post #27956 of 29422
1/13/13 at 5:49am
Can I ask a few questions about BP-8060ST? I'm really thinking about getting a pair of them along with a new receiver.

If I get the 8060STs, I don't really need a separate sub woofer?
Would you guys recommend a new receiver with two subwoofer ports to use an additional stand alone sub?

Also, does the built in sub cause any problems with Audyssey? I was going to get a multeq receiver, but if it isn't an advantage, then I might opt for something else...

Thanks!
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post #27957 of 29422
1/13/13 at 6:05am
Has anyone heard the UIW RSS III installed in-ceiling before? I'm thinking about putting 4 of them in-ceiling for my surround channels. They seem like some kid of crazy overkill though. Also, the manual states to point one set of drivers towards the main listening position and one away. That seems like a weird setup to me. To me it seems like for the SR/SL they should be firing forward and backwards and the SBR/SBL side to side.confused.gif What about the DI 5.5BPS? How do they compare? Obviously two totally different speakers, but similar in price. Also, does anyone know if there is a rough-in bracket for the UIW RSS III? DT only lists one for the RSS II. The RSS III is slightly smaller, so I don't get why there isn't one listed and I can't find one for sale anywhere!
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post #27958 of 29422
1/13/13 at 8:48am
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Originally Posted by whokilledkaji View Post

Can I ask a few questions about BP-8060ST? I'm really thinking areceived ting a pair of them along with a new receiver.

If I get the 8060STs, I don't really need a separate sub woofer?
Would you guys recommend a new receiver with two subwoofer ports to use an additional stand alone sub?

Also, does the built in sub cause any problems with Audyssey? I was going to get a multeq receiver, but if it isn't an advantage, then I might opt for something else...

Thanks!

It really will depend on your room...the 8060's have great bass but its always good to have extra thump... Especially for movies.I have a pioneer elite reciever so I can't comment on audyssey.I run my towers flat with no EQ settings myself and get great sound.The bass in the towers is plenty for most people...but if you get them and what more boom...especially if they will be in a large room that might be the route to take...smile.gif
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post #27959 of 29422
1/13/13 at 10:35am
I'm new to the forum and looking for some advice.

My background is I haven't been into home audio stuff in a few years. I have a modest setup right now and like it, but I'm looking to upgrade.

Current setup:
Polk Rti12's - Left, Right
Polk Csi 5 - center
Polk LsiFX - rears
Polk PSW505 sub
Onkyo TX-SR806

I mainly use it for Movies/TV and seldom music.

I would like to reduce the size of the setup and upgrade the quality. The RTi12 are huge, as are the LSI's for rear. The size of the center channel is fine.

I'm considering the Def Tech 8060st with the free center and surrounds for 2K. I have heard this setup in a store and it sounds pretty good.

I'm also considering the Def Tech Mythos STS, Mythos nine, and Mythos GEMs. I have a dealer who can get me this setup new with warranty for 3K. No where around here has these to actually listen to though.

My question is, is the Mythos setup 1K better or would I be better off with the 8060 setup and perhaps upgrading the receiver? Are these going to be dramatically better than the Polks? Is there a better way to spend the 2K-3K?

Thanks for all advice.
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post #27960 of 29422
1/13/13 at 10:36am
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Originally Posted by shiftyz View Post

I'm new to the forum and looking for some advice.

My background is I haven't been into home audio stuff in a few years. I have a modest setup right now and like it, but I'm looking to upgrade.

Current setup:
Polk Rti12's - Left, Right
Polk Csi 5 - center
Polk LsiFX - rears
Polk PSW505 sub
Onkyo TX-SR806

I mainly use it for Movies/TV and seldom music. My room is roughly 15x20 but it opens up into a kitchen area.

I would like to reduce the size of the setup and upgrade the quality. The RTi12 are huge, as are the LSI's for rear. The size of the center channel is fine.

I'm considering the Def Tech 8060st with the free center and surrounds for 2K. I have heard this setup in a store and it sounds pretty good.

I'm also considering the Def Tech Mythos STS, Mythos nine, and Mythos GEMs. I have a dealer who can get me this setup new with warranty for 3K. No where around here has these to actually listen to though.

My question is, is the Mythos setup 1K better or would I be better off with the 8060 setup and perhaps upgrading the receiver? Are these going to be dramatically better than the Polks? Is there a better way to spend the 2K-3K?

Thanks for all advice.
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