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Thanks, I can't wait to have it all set up! Thank you for the call out I will look into that Would you be concerned about lost or redirected sound hitting the side of the upper cabinets or notch out by the fire place?
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Originally Posted by truwarrior22 View Post

Nice setup, Just thinking out loud here, but you might want to also consider some tritraps for that corner behind the TV. Contact GIK Acoustics or Realtraps and see what they recommend.
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Got a Marantz sr5007 yesterday. Thinking about adding some external amplification. Anybody have emotiva's? would 200 watts be too much for my 8060 towers?
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Originally Posted by MNaudioguy View Post

Thanks, I can't wait to have it all set up! Thank you for the call out I will look into that Would you be concerned about lost or redirected sound hitting the side of the upper cabinets or notch out by the fire place?

I think it will be fine, but you can probably shoot an email over to bryan.p@gikacoustics.com with a couple pics and he'll help you out.
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

Got a Marantz sr5007 yesterday. Thinking about adding some external amplification. Anybody have emotiva's? would 200 watts be too much for my 8060 towers?

Lots of people have emotivas, they're affordable decent amps. 200 watts would not be too much, as the towers are rated for 300. What are you goals with external amping? Compared to an average receiver, you might be getting 3db more headroom, which is just barely a noticeable increase in volume. Do you frequently clip the speakers?
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Anyone use UIW RCS II or IIIs for front left & right channels? Thoughts good or bad?
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Originally Posted by truwarrior22 View Post

Got bored and did some more messing around with REW:
Red: BP7000SC with 40Hz crossover
Green: CLR3000 with sub on
Yellow: CLR3000 with sub off

Strange the CLR3000 dips of so much after 80Hz. Look like 80Hz might actually be a good crossover point for it.
Also strange the BP7000SC dip off so much after 200Hz. I actually have the rear drivers disconnected for testing. I was informed that they have a 80hz crossover, but that doesn't seem to be the case from the measurements...odd... When playing music, the CLR3000 does have more lower midrange/midbass from the mids.

Can anyone get a measurment from their BP7001SC? I'm curious how the mids to woofers blend!

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I also think I need to try with a new soundcard/laptop. I think this laptop might be off some in the bass.

Thanks!

Thinking about adding a HSU MBM MK2....
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Originally Posted by truwarrior22 View Post

You need to use white noise.

What do you mean? Is that not what the test tones from the receiver are?
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truwarrior thank you for your comments, i sent email off already. Does anyone else have any concerns, helpful feedback or just general thoughts about my proposed setup/gear? I am just worried mostly about the room setup/acoustics. I apologize for not being patient and waiting for answers, I just know that the 8060ST package deal ends tomorrow and I want to make sure I am purchasing the right stuff.
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Originally Posted by MNaudioguy View Post

Alright all, I am getting close to my first serious HT setup. I am so pumped and am really looking forward to these Def Techs! My current issue is speaker placement (primarily surrounds) and I would love some thoughts based on knowing the speakers I am getting. The room is fairly sizable (6500 cubic ft) and I am attaching pictures and what my thoughts are. So I will be using it for 50 HT/50 Music. My setup will be

Front L/R – 8060s
Center – 8040 (unless people think I must get the 8060)
Surrounds – 8040
Sub – not at the moment, future add
AVR – Denon 3312

As you can see in the pictures I want to aim the theater listening towards the TV. Don’t worry the TV is going to get upgraded too and I am hoping to mount it on the wall in the corner. I would put the two def tech towers to the left and right of the tv, separated by about 6-7ft and pull them back from the wall about 2 ft and put the center on that TV stand until I get a better setup. My concern is surround placement. I don’t want to run cables under the carpet and put them by the couch. So I was thinking to the left of the fireplace against the wall. I was also thinking the other one would go to the right of the upper cabinets on the wet bar. Both of these surrounds will be about 6-7 ft from either end of the couch.

Is there an issue if I put it to the right of the cabinets and left of the fireplace and on the main wall will the sound deflect off of those two spots (cabinet approx 20in and 1ft of wall before fireplace) away from the couch. Will i miss out on some of the soundstage? Also, are they too far away from the couch or should the sound carry well enough?

Thanks all in advance, I cant wait to be a def tech owner
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You are purchasing the right stuff...smile.gif...and once you get them have fun with placement and seeing what works best.
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Originally Posted by josh6113 View Post

You are purchasing the right stuff...smile.gif...and once you get them have fun with placement and seeing what works best.

Would i be better off purchasing in-ceiling speakers (DI 6.5) instead of the 8040s? i really didnt want to have to go that route if possible. But dont want to pay top dollar and not be happy. I am secretly hoping my proposed setup for the 8040s wont have me missing out on some of the acoustics.
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I am thinking of putting 3x UIW RLS II (for L C R), and 4x UIW RSS II for LS, LRS, RRS, RS) in my 20x12 dedicated home theater.

Any comments on this? Overkill? Underkill? Will I like it? smile.gif The front 3 will be mounted behind an AT screen, so I will do vertical orientation on all of them.

Any suggestions on a good sub to pair with them?

thanks!
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Originally Posted by MNaudioguy View Post

Would i be better off purchasing in-ceiling speakers (DI 6.5) instead of the 8040s? i really didnt want to have to go that route if possible. But dont want to pay top dollar and not be happy. I am secretly hoping my proposed setup for the 8040s wont have me missing out on some of the acoustics.

I'd use the 8040's then sell them for another set of BP8060's later down the road smile.gif
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Originally Posted by truwarrior22 View Post

I'd use the 8040's then sell them for another set of BP8060's later down the road smile.gif

I called and talked to a guy at audio lab and he was afraid that the right side of the right speaker (next to the cabinet) would difuse into open space. Is that a true statement based on the pictures you an see. He recommended i get the UIW BP/A's instead of the 8040s and do an in-celing solution. I was afraid of him recommending that and really didnt want to go that route. Can anyone dispell that thought or give me hope the 8040s will work, haha
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If you insist on corner placement of the TV, I would rotate the room 90 degrees. Put the TV in the corner to the left of the fireplace (where the tree is in the pics), and rotate the sectional so its back is to the kitchenette, dividing that part of the room off from the seating area. Put the surround speakers on stands at the ends of the sectional, or on whatever nearby walls seem optimal (I can't really tell from the pics where that might be).

Just thinking out loud.
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Definitive Owners! Any of you have external amplification? Any Emotiva users? I have 8060 fronts, 8040 center, 8040 surrounds and pro monitor 1000's for front highs. How would you feel about putting 200 watts to the 8060 towers? The center is rated at 20-200 watts so putting 200 to that would be out of the question? I was looking at the Marantz dedicated amplifiers but I called them and he said I can figure on 70% of that power. Seriously? I have read when the Emotiva's put out 200 a channel they do exactly that. Comment please!
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Originally Posted by rdclark View Post

If you insist on corner placement of the TV, I would rotate the room 90 degrees. Put the TV in the corner to the left of the fireplace (where the tree is in the pics), and rotate the sectional so its back is to the kitchenette, dividing that part of the room off from the seating area. Put the surround speakers on stands at the ends of the sectional, or on whatever nearby walls seem optimal (I can't really tell from the pics where that might be).

Just thinking out loud.

Interesting concept. Let me play that one out in my head when i get home smile.gif Also, i have heard the last place you want to mount anything is above the fireplace so i am kind of stuck in either of the two corners. Also, that back wall against the fireplace is an exterior cement wall. Would temperature be a concern in a minnesota winter or should i be good if i did a in-wall speaker. Again, hoping to do the 8040 surrounds as my 1st choice but my concerns are loss of accoustics. If anyone has a perspective on the accoustic part i would really appreciate it.
Edited by MNaudioguy - 1/30/13 at 1:00pm
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Originally Posted by lalawyer View Post

Anyone use UIW RCS II or IIIs for front left & right channels? Thoughts good or bad?

I have installed a pair of RCS II in my ceiling for use as rear speakers. I still haven't completed my setup, but did test them out as front speakers to check they were working. I was impressed and I think they are going to work out extremely well. I assume you would be pairing them with a sub? They are nice because they are enclosed. They seem comparable to my RLS II speakers which I am using for fronts, but like I say I really haven't tested them.
If you have to go with ceiling speakers I don't think you will go far wrong with these.
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Greetings:

I currently have Polks RTia7 Speakers on my HT Room (13'' x 17') but I got the DT 7006 and will move the Polks to my living room. Im new to Definitive Tech. My receiver is a Pioneer SC-1222; and also a DIY 15" sub powered with a 300W RMS Bash Amp.

I found the Studio Monitor 350 at good price; Does the 350 match the 7006; or is there any other recommendation for surrounds?

As for Center; I found a nice deal in Mythos 3 and Pro Center 1000; but similar price; Honestly I like best the looks of the Mythos; but its 4.5" vs the Pro Center 1000 which is 5.25"... The CLR 2002 would be nice but too expensive!.. Any recomendation?

Thanks a lot!
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Originally Posted by javygonx View Post

Greetings:

I currently have Polks RTia7 Speakers on my HT Room (13'' x 17') but I got the DT 7006 and will move the Polks to my living room. Im new to Definitive Tech. My receiver is a Pioneer SC-1222; and also a DIY 15" sub powered with a 300W RMS Bash Amp.

I found the Studio Monitor 350 at good price; Does the 350 match the 7006; or is there any other recommendation for surrounds?

As for Center; I found a nice deal in Mythos 3 and Pro Center 1000; but similar price; Honestly I like best the looks of the Mythos; but its 4.5" vs the Pro Center 1000 which is 5.25"... The CLR 2002 would be nice but too expensive!.. Any recomendation?

Thanks a lot!
Just a correction...the pro center 1000 also has 4 1/2 inch drivers.
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

Definitive Owners! Any of you have external amplification? Any Emotiva users? I have 8060 fronts, 8040 center, 8040 surrounds and pro monitor 1000's for front highs. How would you feel about putting 200 watts to the 8060 towers? The center is rated at 20-200 watts so putting 200 to that would be out of the question? I was looking at the Marantz dedicated amplifiers but I called them and he said I can figure on 70% of that power. Seriously? I have read when the Emotiva's put out 200 a channel they do exactly that. Comment please!

If your doing a multichannel setup, I would recommend the XPA-5 or similair product from other vendors. I wouldn't mix and match different channel amps, i.e. XPA-1 with XPA-3, etc. Emo is good value, but I've found that NAD works a little better with Def Tech speakers. Not as harsh on the highs but still very detailed, etc.
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

Definitive Owners! Any of you have external amplification? Any Emotiva users? I have 8060 fronts, 8040 center, 8040 surrounds and pro monitor 1000's for front highs. How would you feel about putting 200 watts to the 8060 towers? The center is rated at 20-200 watts so putting 200 to that would be out of the question? I was looking at the Marantz dedicated amplifiers but I called them and he said I can figure on 70% of that power. Seriously? I have read when the Emotiva's put out 200 a channel they do exactly that. Comment please!
I have the 8060s and 8080s for center and surrounds. I also have an Emotiva XPA-5. It is a great combination. No problems whatsoever. I am using my Denon AVH-4311CI as a pre/pro now and the difference was noticable immediately. Well, to my ears anyway. I can't speak to what the XPA-5 is actually putting out but I love it. If you get it, though, be sure to invest in good interconnects. I had serious speaker buzz in the fronts and center. I bought some Vampire Wire 0.5 meter interconnects and the buzz is gone. It was mostly coming from the sub in the center but it was also in the 8060s. Now all I have is a very faint high hiss (for lack of better word) from the tweeter on the center but even sitting six feet away I barely hear it. Overall, I am one happy camper.
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Originally Posted by MNaudioguy View Post

Interesting concept. Let me play that one out in my head when i get home smile.gif Also, i have heard the last place you want to mount anything is above the fireplace so i am kind of stuck in either of the two corners. Also, that back wall against the fireplace is an exterior cement wall. Would temperature be a concern in a minnesota winter or should i be good if i did a in-wall speaker. Again, hoping to do the 8040 surrounds as my 1st choice but my concerns are loss of accoustics. If anyone has a perspective on the accoustic part i would really appreciate it.

What room of the house is that? What window is that? If not a 'family room', I would consider putting black out curtains over the windows and putting the AV gear against that wall (blocking the window). Corner placement is usually not a good idea unless you really have no other option - and I would put it in the corner before I put it over the fireplace. Sitting down, eye level should be in the middle to bottom part of the screen. Above the FP you have to crane your neck up to watch.
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I have the 8060s and 8080s for center and surrounds. I also have an Emotiva XPA-5. It is a great combination. No problems whatsoever. I am using my Denon AVH-4311CI as a pre/pro now and the difference was noticable immediately. Well, to my ears anyway. I can't speak to what the XPA-5 is actually putting out but I love it. If you get it, though, be sure to invest in good interconnects. I had serious speaker buzz in the fronts and center. I bought some Vampire Wire 0.5 meter interconnects and the buzz is gone. It was mostly coming from the sub in the center but it was also in the 8060s. Now all I have is a very faint high hiss (for lack of better word) from the tweeter on the center but even sitting six feet away I barely hear it. Overall, I am one happy camper.

Should there be a 'hiss' at all? What did you use to connect the amp and avr?
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That window is actually our basement walkout. So my wife would hurt me if I covered that up. I appreciate the comment though. Now you can see why I'm kind of stuck with that one corner. It sucks but I might just need to make it work
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Originally Posted by BartMan01 View Post

What room of the house is that? What window is that? If not a 'family room', I would consider putting black out curtains over the windows and putting the AV gear against that wall (blocking the window). Corner placement is usually not a good idea unless you really have no other option - and I would put it in the corner before I put it over the fireplace. Sitting down, eye level should be in the middle to bottom part of the screen. Above the FP you have to crane your neck up to watch.
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Alright, today is the big day!! Since I didnt get any overwhelming concerns with my room, acoustics and speakers, I am probably going to go with my original setup (8060 front, 8060 center & 8040 rears). My question is, has anyone had experiences with both crutchfield and audiolab. I have seen a lot of great reviews about crutchfield. However, I got the folks at audiolab to give me a slight ($50) discount based on additional gear I am buying. Is the $50 worth it or should I stick with crutchfield? As usual, any other feeback on my setup or room acoustics is greatly appreciated! I can't wait, i am getting so excited!!
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Originally Posted by MNaudioguy View Post

Alright, today is the big day!! Since I didnt get any overwhelming concerns with my room, acoustics and speakers, I am probably going to go with my original setup (8060 front, 8060 center & 8040 rears). My question is, has anyone had experiences with both crutchfield and audiolab. I have seen a lot of great reviews about crutchfield. However, I got the folks at audiolab to give me a slight ($50) discount based on additional gear I am buying. Is the $50 worth it or should I stick with crutchfield? As usual, any other feeback on my setup or room acoustics is greatly appreciated! I can't wait, i am getting so excited!!

Don,t know about Audiolab, but Crutchfield is solid. I would pay the $50, I would go with Crutchfield...
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Crutchfield is solid, but Audio Lab is listed on DefTech's website as an authorized dealer so you're probably good to go there. See if CF will price match or beat it?
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Originally Posted by UGAd13 View Post

Crutchfield is solid, but Audio Lab is listed on DefTech's website as an authorized dealer so you're probably good to go there. See if CF will price match or beat it?

I already tried, and they wouldnt. I can try one more time smile.gif Any experiences with Audiolab? I do know Crutchfield is solid. I guess my main concern is if i need to deal with warranties I know I can count on Crutchfield. Not much out there about audiolab other than what they have listed on their site
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50 bucks is worth solid
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Originally Posted by javygonx View Post

Greetings:

I currently have Polks RTia7 Speakers on my HT Room (13'' x 17') but I got the DT 7006 and will move the Polks to my living room. Im new to Definitive Tech. My receiver is a Pioneer SC-1222; and also a DIY 15" sub powered with a 300W RMS Bash Amp.

I found the Studio Monitor 350 at good price; Does the 350 match the 7006; or is there any other recommendation for surrounds?

As for Center; I found a nice deal in Mythos 3 and Pro Center 1000; but similar price; Honestly I like best the looks of the Mythos; but its 4.5" vs the Pro Center 1000 which is 5.25"... The CLR 2002 would be nice but too expensive!.. Any recomendation?

Thanks a lot!
Anyone; Please?! smile.gif
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