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Don't know what TL technically means but Deftech TL models contain ported subs with beefier amps as compared to their non-TL counterparts.
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Originally Posted by logicators View Post

Don't know what TL technically means but Deftech TL models contain ported subs with beefier amps as compared to their non-TL counterparts.

That's what a salesman told me about 10 years back. Could be for transmission line as well.
post #28353 of 30942
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Originally Posted by bradthebold88 View Post

It stands for Transmission Line, which is a type of cabinet design for the sub I believe.
Yes, and no. It is a type of cabinet design, but it's very seldom employed with subs, as the length of the line for 30Hz response would be at least 9 feet. I've seen many speakers called TLs that really were not.
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Well, Denon 3313 home and hooked up yesterday to the 8060 towers, 8040 center, 8040 rears, pro monitor 1000's (front high), hsu vtf-15h sub. Audyssey ran and dialed in correctly. Good stuff! We are privileged!
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Originally Posted by Bill Fitzmaurice View Post

Yes, and no. It is a type of cabinet design, but it's very seldom employed with subs, as the length of the line for 30Hz response would be at least 9 feet. I've seen many speakers called TLs that really were not.

Yes, TLs they were. Definitely had to do with the internal "ported" cabinet design for the "powered driver/woofer"
post #28356 of 30942
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

Well, Denon 3313 home and hooked up yesterday to the 8060 towers, 8040 center, 8040 rears, pro monitor 1000's (front high), hsu vtf-15h sub. Audyssey ran and dialed in correctly. Good stuff! We are privileged!
Sounds great!...be carful not too blow your windows out...smile.gif...what movies are you enjoying on the system?
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

Well, Denon 3313 home and hooked up yesterday to the 8060 towers, 8040 center, 8040 rears, pro monitor 1000's (front high), hsu vtf-15h sub. Audyssey ran and dialed in correctly. Good stuff! We are privileged!

What are you crossing your mains over at? I'm curious if you run them full range without a sub and audyssey flat, do you gain impact in the bass or loss it?

I can't dial in my built in subs at all in my bp7000, there must be a delay programmed into the low level board because audyssey thinks the built in woofers are twice the distance away from the mids and tweeters. About ready to just unplug the damn towers and buy another sealed sub, but I think the mids really start to fade at around 200hz, so it's kinda hard to find a sub that works that high in Hz!
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

Well, Denon 3313 home and hooked up yesterday to the 8060 towers, 8040 center, 8040 rears, pro monitor 1000's (front high), hsu vtf-15h sub. Audyssey ran and dialed in correctly. Good stuff! We are privileged!
OK JLP - now, Waiting for Columbus, Fandango, Live 'n' Dangerous, Allman Brothers Live at the Fillmore, etc...
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Originally Posted by MNaudioguy View Post

WOW, so i ordered the def techs! I got the 8060 center and front L/R and the 8040 surrounds for under the package deal. They had 2 open box towers and that could be included in the package price!!! I am supposed to have everything by 2/5! I cannot wait! Now i need to figure out my cables next. i am soon to be a new member of the def tech community
Good for you, MN! I take it you are in Minnesota? Let 'em hear you in Milwaukee smile.gif
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Originally Posted by BadClams View Post

Morning folks

Curious if there is a "short list" of online DT vendors you recommend? Looking to see if any get multiple recommendations (as a good place to start!)

Thank you!
B
Hello Bad, I'd check out the promo that we are running through 2/17. Of course it only covers some of our products, not all, but there are some great deals to be had now. You may have to wait a bit, as we have sold out of some sku's and are trying to get them back in stock smile.gif. Best, Joe
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Originally Posted by Ab Liquor View Post

I just joined he Def tech community, recently ordered the promonitor 350's for a 7.1 setup with a klipsch rw12 - d sub and yamaha 571 receiver, just wondering what are good ceiling mounts for the 350's? I was looking at omnimount 20.0's but I don't know if the speakers have pre-drilled holes in the back for install, any recommendations would be much appreciated, thanks in advance

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Hello AB, check out the Pinpoint AM 40 as it looks pretty cool - http://pinpointmounts.com/am40.html. Let us know what you think - best, Joe
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Originally Posted by joeatdefinitive View Post

Good for you, MN! I take it you are in Minnesota? Let 'em hear you in Milwaukee smile.gif

Yes I am, PS, thank you for your email/PM. I am already impressed with the customer service and have yet to get my speakers. I will make them hear me in Chicago if I can smile.gif I probably need an external sub for that. I can settle on Milwaukee for now, haha

If you have any tips/tricks for mounting the 8040s for surrounds other than the normal 6ft up behind listening position, etc. please let me know.
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Another shout out to DefTech and Chet (again)! I bought a CLR3000 last year from ListenUp even before my HT had started. Now it's finally functional, when I hooked up the speaker, Audessay set the CLR3000 cross at 150hz!! eek.gif I looked and noticed the rear amp light is not on, gave it a little knock/tap, it turns on, ran Audessay again, still cross at 150hz! Emailed Chet, it turns out the amp is bad. Chet sent a new amp to me right away, not even asked for any sales receipt or when did I buy it (you know, they DO have a limited time warranty as to pretty much everything!). Just the serial number. And I never register it neither.

Hopefully the new amp will be here next week.

Btw, how hard is it to swap out the amp on the CLR??
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Land shark had to replace an amp on my BP7001 when I bought it. Label the wires you disconnect and when hooking up the new amp just go by the labels. Very easy job to do. If I can do it than a mentally challenged monkey can do it.
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Just got my first HDTV, so am now in the process of slowly upgrading my HTIB audio system. I bought 2 BP7006's from a friend. I am looking for advice as to what would be the best center channel speaker to get. Am going to wait on the surrounds for now.

Thank you for your help.

Steve

EDIT: The center speaker will be on a shelf (part of the mount). Shelf can hold up to 80 lbs.
Edited by Thunderduck - 2/3/13 at 5:20pm
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Just the serial number. And I never register it neither.

Do we need to register? I just got my stuff last week...
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^last month I mean
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

Well, Denon 3313 home and hooked up yesterday to the 8060 towers, 8040 center, 8040 rears, pro monitor 1000's (front high), hsu vtf-15h sub. Audyssey ran and dialed in correctly. Good stuff! We are privileged!

Did you have any tips, tricks or learning experiences as you setup your 3313? I just got a 3312 and will have pretty much the same setup as you (8060 tower and centers and 8040 surrounds). I have read people with issues on Def Tech and audessey dialing them in correctly because of their bipolar design. I am glad to hear you are very happy. Also, i dont intend on getting a sub probably for another 6mos or so. Let me know if you have any specific tips for Audyssey or system setup to dial in these speakers and make them sound awesome!
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Originally Posted by Thunderduck View Post

Just got my first HDTV, so am now in the process of slowly upgrading my HTIB audio system. I bought 2 BP7006's from a friend. I am looking for advice as to what would be the best center channel speaker to get. Am going to wait on the surrounds for now.

Thank you for your help.

Steve

EDIT: The center speaker will be on a shelf (part of the mount). Shelf can hold up to 80 lbs.
Hi Steve, there are some pretty passionate fans of the CS 8080 HD center channel speaker on this thread. I am not sure if your shelf is large enough (the dimensions are on our web site www.definitivetech.com). If so, it's a great product and you'll love it. Best, Joe
Edited by joeatdefinitive - 2/3/13 at 11:20pm
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Originally Posted by joeatdefinitive View Post

Hi Steve, there are some pretty passionate fans of the CS 8080 HD center channel speaker on this thread. I am not sure if your shelf is large enough (the dimensions are on our web site www.definitivetech.com). If so, it's a great product and you'll love it. Best, Joe

Joe,

Thank you very much! Will definitely check those out.

Regards,

Steve

Edit: They look great! Will have to give them a test spin. Tks, Steve.
Edited by Thunderduck - 2/4/13 at 5:55am
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Originally Posted by joeatdefinitive View Post

Hello Bad, I'd check out the promo that we are running through 2/17. Of course it only covers some of our products, not all, but there are some great deals to be had now. You may have to wait a bit, as we have sold out of some sku's and are trying to get them back in stock smile.gif. Best, Joe

Thank you Joe.

I'll have a look.

B
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Originally Posted by UofAZ1 View Post

Land shark had to replace an amp on my BP7001 when I bought it. Label the wires you disconnect and when hooking up the new amp just go by the labels. Very easy job to do. If I can do it than a mentally challenged monkey can do it.
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

Definitive Owners! Any of you have external amplification? Any Emotiva users? I have 8060 fronts, 8040 center, 8040 surrounds and pro monitor 1000's for front highs. How would you feel about putting 200 watts to the 8060 towers? The center is rated at 20-200 watts so putting 200 to that would be out of the question? I was looking at the Marantz dedicated amplifiers but I called them and he said I can figure on 70% of that power. Seriously? I have read when the Emotiva's put out 200 a channel they do exactly that. Comment please!
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Originally Posted by jsampsell View Post

I have the 8060s and 8080s for center and surrounds. I also have an Emotiva XPA-5. It is a great combination. No problems whatsoever. I am using my Denon AVH-4311CI as a pre/pro now and the difference was noticable immediately. Well, to my ears anyway. I can't speak to what the XPA-5 is actually putting out but I love it. If you get it, though, be sure to invest in good interconnects. I had serious speaker buzz in the fronts and center. I bought some Vampire Wire 0.5 meter interconnects and the buzz is gone. It was mostly coming from the sub in the center but it was also in the 8060s. Now all I have is a very faint high hiss (for lack of better word) from the tweeter on the center but even sitting six feet away I barely hear it. Overall, I am one happy camper.

I say "hiss" but it isn't what that implies. A very quiet, barely audible "buzz" may be a better description for it. With all of my electronic equipment off in the room except for the XPA-5 and the AVR-4311CI, I can barely hear the "noise" I'm describing. But that's after I upgraded my interconnects to 0.5 meter Vampire Wire. Originally I just used some better-than-cheapo stereo RCA cables I had lying around. They were all the same brand and same length so I figured they would work. Not so much. The buzz was very loud and annoying. I did some research here on AVS and the most common answer was that Emotiva amps aren't the quietest amps. I just assumed that meant that it was fairly common and that if it wasn't noticeable from the listening position under the most quiet situations you listen to something in that it was fine. Of course, the Vampire Wire interconnects made a night and day difference for me. I am very glad that is the case. I was contemplating sending the XPA-5 back.
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Hello,

As I noted in an earlier post, I got 2 BP7006's from a friend. The first time I plugged them in, there was a loud hum that slowly died down and stopped after about 5 minutes. I moved the speakers again, and once more the hum when the were plugged in. The hum lasted only a minute or so. I lost power today for several hours. When it came back on, the hum lasted for less than 30 seconds. My friend told me they have always done this whenever power was removed for any length of time.

Is this normal for these speakers? Other than this, they sound great! Is it the speaker's amp warming up?

Thanks for any feedback (no pun intended).

Steve
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Guess who is the newest Def Tech owner, THIS GUY! Part of my order arrived today. I got the two 8060 towers. Hopefully i get the rest by wednesday. I was very cautious/worried about picking these guys up. I didnt want to accidentally damage a woofer or anything. I put the legs and carpet stabalizers on and wow, these things look great. I can't wait to hear how they sound.
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Congrats on the new speakers MN. You'll be in musical paradise soon. Glad to see everything is finally coming together for you.
Edited by XStanleyX - 2/4/13 at 7:29pm
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Originally Posted by MNaudioguy View Post

Guess who is the newest Def Tech owner, THIS GUY! Part of my order arrived today. I got the two 8060 towers. Hopefully i get the rest by wednesday. I was very cautious/worried about picking these guys up. I didnt want to accidentally damage a woofer or anything. I put the legs and carpet stabalizers on and wow, these things look great. I can't wait to hear how they sound.

Wow, that was fast! Congrats man... I am sure you are anxious for the rest...
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Originally Posted by MNaudioguy View Post

Guess who is the newest Def Tech owner, THIS GUY! Part of my order arrived today. I got the two 8060 towers. Hopefully i get the rest by wednesday. I was very cautious/worried about picking these guys up. I didnt want to accidentally damage a woofer or anything. I put the legs and carpet stabalizers on and wow, these things look great. I can't wait to hear how they sound.

Lol...OH MY GOD!..OH MY GOD...they arrived!...hehe... Glad you got them that fast...now I'm anxious to hear your thoughts on the sound...smile.gif
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Did you have any tips, tricks or learning experiences as you setup your 3313? I just got a 3312 and will have pretty much the same setup as you (8060 tower and centers and 8040 surrounds). I have read people with issues on Def Tech and audessey dialing them in correctly because of their bipolar design. I am glad to hear you are very happy. Also, i dont intend on getting a sub probably for another 6mos or so. Let me know if you have any specific tips for Audyssey or system setup to dial in these speakers and make them sound awesome!

There is a setup assistant than can help. The only thing is that it uses 6 mic placements for audyssey calibration rather than the normal 8 tha Multi EQ XT offers. Not much overall setup. Basically I named my inputs and that was it besides dialing in the sound. I have been thinking about this and I believe audyssey is going to be more difficult without a dedicated sub simply for the fact that you will have two LFE outs to both towers. With a dedicated sub you would just run speaker wire to the towers and LFE to the sub. With the dedicated sub you would, in most opinions, crossover your towers and center at 80hz and the surrounds at whatever audyssey sets them at (prob 150hz-220hz). You would need audyssey Multi EQ XT32 to be able to EQ two subs, which is what you have with two LFE's to both towers. I believe what most do is get both of the tower subs matched with an SPL meter and then run audyssey. Multi EQ XT will "think," it's one sub. But it's important to have them matched or else it could really throw off the EQ-ing of these subs. Also you want to shoot for -3db to +3db for level audyssey sets the subs at. You can always go into your receiver and turn the level up but never touch the gain knobs after you run audyssey. My sub was tough at first. I got -12db then +12db then -7db then finally -3.5db. This is important because audyssey is most effective for low frequencies. I then turned my level on my Denon 3313 from -3.5db to +1db.
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Originally Posted by Thunderduck View Post

Hello,

As I noted in an earlier post, I got 2 BP7006's from a friend. The first time I plugged them in, there was a loud hum that slowly died down and stopped after about 5 minutes. I moved the speakers again, and once more the hum when the were plugged in. The hum lasted only a minute or so. I lost power today for several hours. When it came back on, the hum lasted for less than 30 seconds. My friend told me they have always done this whenever power was removed for any length of time.

Is this normal for these speakers? Other than this, they sound great! Is it the speaker's amp warming up?

Thanks for any feedback (no pun intended).

Steve
Hey Steve, here is some feedback smile.gif. Yes, it's normal with the amps in that series to hum for a little while when they are first connected, and yes, it goes away after a bit, just like you experienced. Our older-style amp designs have a warm-up period, while our newer designs don't. I am glad to hear that they sound great!
Remember, they love to play 70's rock n roll... oh wait... is it me that loves to play 70's rock n roll? Thanks for owning DT, and yes, they will sound even better when you get them broken in after a bit. So play them like a Chicago voter - early and often. Best, Joe
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