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post #28501 of 30951
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Originally Posted by JJ7 View Post

I've got 8080s and cross them over to a pair of SVS subs at 60Hz. I'm quite happy with the results. I think either way you can't go wrong. Best thing is to test it in your room and see what sounds best to you.

Yeah I am not happy at all that my Pioneer Elite SC-25 only has crossover settings of 50 and 80hz on the low end. Christ my ENTRY level Sony from Best Buy had 40, 50, 60, 70, 80 etc. and each speakers crossover could be set differently.
post #28502 of 30951
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Originally Posted by TenTonBass View Post

Another worry of mine is how much strain does having all 3 front speakers with powered subs put on your electrical system?

I'm not sure what amp my breaker is (I rent) but I have a 6 port in wall plug in and I currently run my LCD TV, pioneer elite receiver, PS3, cable box, crown sub amp, and feedback destroyer pro off of. The crown amp, feedback destroyer pro, tv and cable box are plugged into a power strip running off the main. The receiver and PS3 are plugged right into the wall.

So I have the outlets for adding the the 3 powered subs, but I wonder if I will trip a breaker?

Would a power conditioner help this problem?

TenTon on my system I have my Monster 2000SS voltage regulator plugged into the wall. Then I have Monster 3600 surge projector plugged into the VR. Then have my Pioneer Elite RPTV, two outboard amps 200 watt mono (center) and 105 watt per channel stereo (surrounds), my Onkyo 805 (running my DefTech BP7001 mains at 180 wpc), my two built in subs in the towers pushing 3000 watts and Bluray player and a seperate DT prosub 1000 (hooked to center channel only) pushing 300 watts all plugged into my surge protector. My voltage regulator lets me know how many amps I'm pushing and even when watching bass heavy action movies at levels that drive my girlfriend insane I have never seen my combined amp draw ever reach higher than 6. This is pushing over 4000 watts of power and never had an issue with tripping the breaker. Think you'll be okay.
post #28503 of 30951
UofAZ1, what exactly is a voltage regulator? What is its purpose? I currently have all 5 of my components on a single outlet all running through an el-cheapo surge protector and I am worried that this could somehow damage my components. They are: Denon AVR, Sony BDP, SuddenLink cable box, ARR15 wireless router, Art Bump box. Crown EP4K and a Mitsubushi 73 inch DLP TV.

Does this pose any potential problems for damage with all of that being hooked up to one outlet? I would love to run a dedicated 20 amp line, but I live in an apartment and that limits those types of things, but, I have considered doing a DIY 20 amp line ran from the breaker box, on top of the wall, all the way to my living room and then hook some of those components up to their own dedicated line. Does that sound do-able?
post #28504 of 30951
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Originally Posted by Martycool007 View Post

UofAZ1, what exactly is a voltage regulator? What is its purpose? I currently have all 5 of my components on a single outlet all running through an el-cheapo surge protector and I am worried that this could somehow damage my components. They are: Denon AVR, Sony BDP, SuddenLink cable box, ARR15 wireless router, Art Bump box. Crown EP4K and a Mitsubushi 73 inch DLP TV.

Does this pose any potential problems for damage with all of that being hooked up to one outlet? I would love to run a dedicated 20 amp line, but I live in an apartment and that limits those types of things, but, I have considered doing a DIY 20 amp line ran from the breaker box, on top of the wall, all the way to my living room and then hook some of those components up to their own dedicated line. Does that sound do-able?

The monster AVS2000 is a "voltage regulator" in that it takes your house power and regulates it to near exactly 120 volts. As in, during peak loads in your neighborhood and/or your house wiring you can see swings of 30 volts - more so below 115/120 than above. Poor wiring/older homes even more so. The Monster AVS2000 can take between 80 and 140 volts and regulate it to a steady 120 under some quite impressive draw/load from your equipment.

I actually utilize two in my house. An AVS2000SS in the rack for the theater and another older 2000 for our game room and guest room electronics. Not really a requirement given our homes age or wiring yet in TX heat, the neighborhood has some big fluctuations when everyone's AC units are powering up and down. Even within my house with all three AC units running amongst everything else,, it can place quite a strain on the house service coming from the street etc. With the amount of money many of us have in gear it's just a bit of "piece of mind." I'm also not a Monster fan boy yet do like the quality and looks of their reference gear - just not the retail price... :-) I also utilize an HTPS7000SS and several 3600 MKII Monster conditioner/surge devices. Not everyone would agree with Monster products/their use and I can respect that. My HT room and game room run off dedicated 20 amp circuits as well.

Equipment damage.
Older equipment did not like power fluctuations. Near all newer stuff has power circuits/capacitance designed to handle fluctuations between say 105-130 volts and not even flinch. Having the above is piece of mind yet "if a salesman", I couldn't honestly sell/"push it" on someone without knowing they had power issues to remedy etc. As I mentioned prior however, I definitely promote the use of some device that displays your equipment AMP draw and current circuit volts. That way you at least know what's taking place during your listening habits and within your house circuit. AND, you may like what a good power conditioner can do for your audio and video. I never believed in it prior yet it made a noticeable difference in colors on my plasma TVs - can't say I ever heard a difference in my gear.. My initial use however was purely a way to power all my gear and easily turn on/off my 4 BP2000s back in the day. :-)

Cheers
post #28505 of 30951
While we're a bit off topic,, :-)

Another data point like UofAZ1's:

I run a dedicated 20 amp line yet even with a theoretical load of up to 7350 watts when considering my 4 towers and CLR, 1180 watts of receiver, about 600 watts for the PJ and other components combined... Like UofAZ1, I still only typically see between 4 and 5 amp loads. 6-7 and the house sounds like she's coming down... Thus, it may seem like you are plugging too much into the circuit yet you most likely still have a safety margin (not to mention a breaker) under real world use etc. Just keep your wiring neat and tidy and if able utilize a conditioner that gives you a relatively accurate readout of the load/circuit health.

Cheers
post #28506 of 30951
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Originally Posted by KJSmitty View Post

At most you probably have a 15 amp circuit. With everything powered up and at medium load you would probably be looking at a 5-8 amp draw, L, C, and R included. If you added up your equipments peak watt draw you would exceed your 15 amp/1800 watt circuit. But you would probably never come close to it under real world use. And most likely all your plugins in that room reside on the same breaker thus spreading the load amongst different plugins will not help. Do you have any other large load style devices plugged in on what could be the same circuit? - that's a consideration as well.

A power conditioner would not help the "power draw from a single circuit issue", yet if a good one, its power cord, circuits and plugs would be rated for the load. It would also (most likely) have a amp-load / current volts readout that you could monitor to ensure your not stressing the circuit during your listening habits.

Cheers
Solid advice by KJS smile.gif
post #28507 of 30951
do i need to register my new speakers?
post #28508 of 30951
I noticed the piano block wood on left side of my CLR3000 is only secured using 2 pieces of thick 2 sided tape. Should that be like that? Wouldn't I want tree locks?
post #28509 of 30951
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Originally Posted by CleatusCat View Post

I noticed the piano block wood on left side of my CLR3000 is only secured using 2 pieces of thick 2 sided tape. Should that be like that? Wouldn't I want tree locks?

Yes, should be four of the inserts/locks. One in each corner. Are they broke off or actually removed from the speaker box?
post #28510 of 30951
Thanks KJSmitty excellent explanation.
post #28511 of 30951
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Originally Posted by KJSmitty View Post

Yes, should be four of the inserts/locks. One in each corner. Are they broke off or actually removed from the speaker box?

Damn, upon closer inspection, the double sided tape is really velcro. The tree locks are all busted off. So, my shopping list is tree locks and those gold terminal brackets for the CLR and TLs
post #28512 of 30951
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Originally Posted by CleatusCat View Post

Damn, upon closer inspection, the double sided tape is really velcro. The tree locks are all busted off. So, my shopping list is tree locks and those gold terminal brackets for the CLR and TLs

Call Chet and he will be happy to send them to you.
post #28513 of 30951
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Originally Posted by UofAZ1 View Post

Thanks KJSmitty excellent explanation.

Actually, my apologies for jumping in above,
It was one of those slow mornings and I started rambling.. smile.gif

On another note, if your AVS2000 is out of warranty and you're curious pop the lid off some time. smile.gif. My older one started squeaking and for the life of me I couldn't think why.. Opened it up and was like WT-bleep..? I like electronics and know just enough to hurt myself (OK, maybe keep from hurting myself) yet the guts of the 2000 left me wondering what the large moving apparatus was doing. Obviously some form of large coil/power supply surrounded by a large armature of sorts.
Anyway, if you've ever wondered what's all the clunking and churning inside your 2000 it really does have moving parts and some interesting guts.. In my mind I was thinking: so that's what a "phase flux capacitor" looks like.....biggrin.gif

Good Presidents Day weekend morning all!
post #28514 of 30951
If your getting a sqeaky noise from your AVS2000 pop the top (unplug the beast first, it can bite you. Yes i know first hand lol) put some dielectric grease across the top of the coil. You will see where the arm is moving and rubbing. I had this idea when mine was squeaking years back called monster to just double check and they were in agreement. Also make sure you have your AVS 2000 plugged into a surge protector as it offers no surge protection at all, just to be safe . this was a recommendation I got from Monster tech. I believe it may say something in the manual also.
AND YEAH unplug it HA HA HA.

Also figured I would get in this thread as a Definitive Owner biggrin.gif Didn't realize my first post in would be for monster product lol
Edited by ntculenuf - 2/16/13 at 5:54am
post #28515 of 30951
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Originally Posted by ntculenuf View Post

Also figured I would get in this thread as a Definitive Owner biggrin.gif Didn't realize my first post in would be for monster product lol

Welcome aboard! smile.gif

Regardless of the intended subject, the chat is alway good in the Definitive owners thread. biggrin.gif
post #28516 of 30951
Anyone use an IR extended receiver for their SuperCube SC4000+? I bought this one from MonoPrice and it doesnt work. Wondering which one people are using that does work.
post #28517 of 30951
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Originally Posted by KJSmitty View Post

I have seen them in good to great condition priced as low as $300 and as high as $600. Being "white" tends to place you at the lower end however.

Were all eight drivers replaced - or just a few?

IMHO, $350-$400

All. Tweeters were replaced just before the woofers. So all around new drivers.

Changing the sock is fairly easy, however with today's emphasis on white I get complements where as I never did when they were black. Go figure.

Thanks for the info!!
post #28518 of 30951
This may sound like a dumb question but i will ask anyway. Does anyone have the CS-8060HD center speaker? I just got my 8060 set and noticed the back of my towers the light initially turns on as red but quickly switches to green. I noticed the light on the back of the powered center channel is always red and never turns green. Can anyone else confirm theirs? I guess normallly i wouldnt be worried but I already have to exchange one of my front speakers because none of the bass kicks in. I tried swapping the L for the R and the same thing with the same speaker so i know its not the AVR. Anyway, thanks in advance!
post #28519 of 30951
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Originally Posted by logicators View Post

Call Chet and he will be happy to send them to you.

Yep! smile.gif
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Originally Posted by ntculenuf View Post

If your getting a sqeaky noise from your AVS2000 pop the top (unplug the beast first, it can bite you. Yes i know first hand lol) put some dielectric grease across the top of the coil. You will see where the arm is moving and rubbing. I had this idea when mine was squeaking years back called monster to just double check and they were in agreement. Also make sure you have your AVS 2000 plugged into a surge protector as it offers no surge protection at all, just to be safe . this was a recommendation I got from Monster tech. I believe it may say something in the manual also.
AND YEAH unplug it HA HA HA.

Also figured I would get in this thread as a Definitive Owner biggrin.gif Didn't realize my first post in would be for monster product lol

Having the same power issues as the others, I looked up the prices for the AVS2000. eek.gif and now you tell me it offers no surge protection?
post #28520 of 30951
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Originally Posted by CleatusCat View Post

Yep! smile.gif
Having the same power issues as the others, I looked up the prices for the AVS2000. eek.gif and now you tell me it offers no surge protection?

Very true, they will "correct" a surge up to 140 yet in the event of a lightning strike etc it could be a very expensive sacrificial lamb or worse yet transmitter the spike. I'm sure it was a marketing decision yet one would think a MOV circuit or resettable breaker could have been used. It may have "self protection" yet I really never asked/looked into it etc.

Keep an eye on CL and eBay.
post #28521 of 30951
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Originally Posted by SoundSmile View Post

All. Tweeters were replaced just before the woofers. So all around new drivers.

Changing the sock is fairly easy, however with today's emphasis on white I get complements where as I never did when they were black. Go figure.

Thanks for the info!!

With all new tweets and drivers they may actually be BP30s biggrin.gif?

No offense meant on the color. Just something I have noticed on other white DTs up for sale. And I agree, for many white would be the ticket. I know over the years my wife would have preferred it given our changing decors etc.

Cheers
post #28522 of 30951
Does anybody know why the studio monitor stands are the cheapest when the seem to be the bulkiest? Looking to use my my pro monitor 1000's as wides possibly but the stands are a bit steep. Heck even the mythos stands are 260 a piece. I don't see why...
post #28523 of 30951
CleatusCat I actually bought both of my AVS2000SS brand new when Circuit City was going out of business. Picked em both up for 299.00 each. Otherwise I would just go with Tripplite for both Voltage Regulator and Surge Protector.
post #28524 of 30951
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Originally Posted by UofAZ1 View Post

CleatusCat I actually bought both of my AVS2000SS brand new when Circuit City was going out of business. Picked em both up for 299.00 each. Otherwise I would just go with Tripplite for both Voltage Regulator and Surge Protector.

Now that was a deal!
post #28525 of 30951
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Originally Posted by UofAZ1 View Post

CleatusCat I actually bought both of my AVS2000SS brand new when Circuit City was going out of business. Picked em both up for 299.00 each. Otherwise I would just go with Tripplite for both Voltage Regulator and Surge Protector.

That's a smoking deal! I bought a 12 outlet Monster surge protector from CC during their closeout for 30$. A year later, it blew out during an electrical storm. I called Monster and they were ready to replace any and all of my equipment! They shipped me a new one for free. I think I'd rather have the monster stuff. I have all my electronics plugged in their surge protectors
post #28526 of 30951
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Originally Posted by UofAZ1 View Post

CleatusCat I actually bought both of my AVS2000SS brand new when Circuit City was going out of business. Picked em both up for 299.00 each. Otherwise I would just go with Tripplite for both Voltage Regulator and Surge Protector.

DANG that is a hell of a deal! I won mine when I worked at Ultimate Electronics, along with my HTPS7000ss.
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Originally Posted by CleatusCat View Post

That's a smoking deal! I bought a 12 outlet Monster surge protector from CC during their closeout for 30$. A year later, it blew out during an electrical storm. I called Monster and they were ready to replace any and all of my equipment! They shipped me a new one for free. I think I'd rather have the monster stuff. I have all my electronics plugged in their surge protectors

Monster gets a lot of bashing, but I have heard several times of them replacing equipment with their connected warranty.
post #28527 of 30951
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Originally Posted by Accuphase View Post

I'm running a pair of SM65's up front on 26" stands with a Mythos Ten center. I even picked up a 3rd SM65 to try as a center channel but found that the shape was too distracting to look at. Sounded great, but in the end, I couldn't place a clearly vertically-oriented speaker (not like traditional LCR speakers) on its side because it just looked wrong. I would use it as my center, however, if I had the option of keeping it vertically. Running Gem XL's on 30" stands as surround by the way.

The SM65's have a very spacious soundstage and smooth midrange. They have excellent imaging, produce a silly amount of bass for bookshelves (for 2channel music), and have a very understated look when the grills are on. If you're planning on using an actual bookshelf to place these speakers, I would suggest that the front baffle hangs a bit over the edge of the shelf if at all possible to help keep the soundstage open. I have heard the 45's at a stereo shop but in less than desirable setup - just a pair among rows of others on a high shelf.

Pros:
  • Very wide soundstage - sound is wider than where the speakers are mounted
  • smooth midrange - vocals are pleasant, even high female voices
  • dig deep - the speakers have a very full range sound if you're into 2 channel music
  • can go from a very understated look with the grills on or Shiny! with the grills off

Cons:
  • audible difference between grill on or off - upper frequencies more pronounced with grill off
  • size - very deep and tall for a bookshelf speaker
what type of stands are you using for the 65's
post #28528 of 30951
I was hoping for an off chance that somebody might be able to compare the 65's to Ascend CMT-340's? I'm trying to make up my mind between the two for LCR's.
post #28529 of 30951
Hey folks... Need some help/suggestions. I recently moved again and now my place is small from a house 35' x 20' livingroom to a condo 17' x 18' livingroom/kitchen combo. My fronts are BP2002TL and CLR2002, had some old cheap HTIB speakers for my 7.1 setup. Now I am looking for surrounds, I'm not sure if I should continue with my BP setup due to my room size, but I won't mind if I can make it sounds nice. Any suggestions?
post #28530 of 30951
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Originally Posted by BRAISKI View Post

Hey folks... Need some help/suggestions. I recently moved again and now my place is small from a house 35' x 20' livingroom to a condo 17' x 18' livingroom/kitchen combo. My fronts are BP2002TL and CLR2002, had some old cheap HTIB speakers for my 7.1 setup. Now I am looking for surrounds, I'm not sure if I should continue with my BP setup due to my room size, but I won't mind if I can make it sounds nice. Any suggestions?

BPXs would be nice, or BP2Xs would be cheaper.
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