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post #29671 of 30951
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Originally Posted by evanhunter View Post

I am looking to upgrade my procinema 1000 mains to a set of Def Tech towers. Was looking at the BP06's but just ran across a great deal on CL for a set of 7006.

I dont need the sub but for $300 a pair would I be happy with the 7006 compared to the BP06

7006s only have 4" mids and an 8" sub; they are the my least favorite Definitive's I've heard and aren't very capable with such small drivers. You could find BP8's or BP10s for $300 or less that I would much rather have. If you get lucky you could find BP20s or BP30s which are of the best Definitive towers.

Do you have a decent sub now? If so, then I would no doubt go with BP8/10/20/30. If not, you could go audition them at least. It will have more bass than the non-powered towers, they just didn't have the best sound quality in the showroom I've heard them in at least. $300 wouldn't be a bad price for them either if you like them. If you like how they sound though and don't have a sub, I would say go for it.
post #29672 of 30951
Thx for the reply, I currently have the pro sub 1000 and also plan to move u to a SVS eventually. I just want something with a fuller sound then the PC.
post #29673 of 30951
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Originally Posted by evanhunter View Post

Thx for the reply, I currently have the pro sub 1000 and also plan to move u to a SVS eventually. I just want something with a fuller sound then the PC.

The SVS would definitely outperform the 7006s, so I would go with a better non-powered tower. You can find BP20s/BP30s for $400-$500 and they would be the best in that price range. Used BP10s would probably be cheaper.
post #29674 of 30951
I Am going with the smaller pb-1000 sub. I'm going to go listen to the bp06 today as my room is small 13x16 - just looking for fuller sound then the PC.
post #29675 of 30951
Ended up getting a steal of a deal on a pair of BP6B's along with a CLR2002. Initial impression is excellent, much fuller then the PC1000s.


Edited by evanhunter - 8/11/13 at 1:27pm
post #29676 of 30951
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Originally Posted by evanhunter View Post

Ended up getting a steal of a deal on a pair of BP6B's along with a CLR2002. Initial impression is excellent, much fuller then the PC1000s.


That was fast. That should be a good combo.
post #29677 of 30951
Gosh, I didn't know where to post this, but this seems like the right thread...

Hello, I was wondering where the Mythos 3 ranks as far as centers go?

I have a Pro Center 1000, and I'm looking to upgrade as the PC1000 can't seem to match my BP7006 tower speakers.

Price is a major consideration, but I can't quite figure out where the Mythos 3 ranks in terms of Center channels.

I see that the Mythos 3 and Mythos 7 I can get at great prices due to friends, but I'm not sure if they will cut the mustard as a CLR2002, CLR 2300, CLR 2500, 8040HD, and 8060HD might. I've been waiting and watching all summer, but nothing I saw struck me as fantastic. I may have to wait longer until I was offered some Mythos Centers I had not considered.

If price wasn't a concern, I would simply go with specs and exactly matching timbre, but as it stands, I want a Def Tech center speaker at a great price that comes really close.

Right now, I have friends that want to offload Mythos product and so here we are.

Thanks again for the help Def Tech and Mythos experts.
post #29678 of 30951
Hi room
I'm posting this for a friend so were looking for opinions between a couple sets of definitive towers. My friend does have a great rythmik sub so the choice is between a set of bp30's or a set of bp7002's. My choice would be go for the set of bp30's. Both sets are in great condition. Looking forward to hearing your opinions
post #29679 of 30951
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Originally Posted by JAMES MCHUGHES View Post

Hi room
I'm posting this for a friend so were looking for opinions between a couple sets of definitive towers. My friend does have a great rythmik sub so the choice is between a set of bp30's or a set of bp7002's. My choice would be go for the set of bp30's. Both sets are in great condition. Looking forward to hearing your opinions

Hi James,
Well, I have never owned 7002s yet I do like the way my powered towers perform with my Rythmik subs. On the other hand I have owned BP30s and they are great given the 6.5 inch drivers. Which Rythmik does he own? Would he be interested in purchasing another to "pair" them with the 30s? Can you comment on the $deal$ for either pair?

Cheers
post #29680 of 30951
The rythmic sub he has is the fv15hp and hoping to get the bp30's shipped from New York to Cali for 600. I don't think he plans on having to purchase another 15" sub. He may just use these in his bedroom setup with his other rythmic sub which is a lv12r sub
Thanks for your input smitty
post #29681 of 30951
The 7002's are mine I'm selling for 1000
post #29682 of 30951
Hey James long time no talk. Listen your buddy has a very capable sub so either speaker will work. I will say that if he uses the 7002's set to small with a crossover at 40Hz he will get far more powerful mid bass slam when used in conjunction with his sub than the BP30's. the 30's are no slouch either but your buddy will be relying more on the outboard sub for mid bass slam than 30's are capable of. I placed my 7001's in front and my SVS in back and get awesome mid bass slam I can hear while the SVS gives me the great bass I can feel. Just room filling bass all around. I'd lean more towards the 7002's in your buddies case.
post #29683 of 30951
My new speaker setup is complete. Everything sounding great. My 8060's are set to large and I'm only using speaker wire. CS-8060HD is also speaker wire only, with a crossover of 60hz and my 8040SR's have a crossover of 100hz. Anthem Room Correction set the crossovers. I may slightly turn up the sub level in the 8060's but I'm thrilled with what I'm hearing. Break in is not even complete yet.
post #29684 of 30951
I am also loving my upgrade from the PC 1000 setup to the BP06's and CL2002. The center does seem muddy with dialogue until I really turn it up.

Is there anything I can do to help this? After running my calibration mic I turned up the center a couple notches which helped just not sure if I need to turn it up even more.

Also,with the BP06's does anyone have a good crossover rate I should set my ProSUB1000 to?
post #29685 of 30951
Evan is your center aimed at the seating position if not some mopads may help in "aiming" the center speaker. You also have to remember your Prosub is at best a mid bass sub and not a deep sub so this also may be affecting your overall sound. The best the Prosub 1000 can do is just down to 37Hz from then on down the bass gets muddy and distortion filled (hence why I call it a mid bass sub) in fact I have the Prosub1000 hooked up just to my center speaker and it just uses frequencies from 40-80Hz and that's it. For now use your center as small with a 80Hz crossover your 2002 will handle down to 80Hz just fine. I'd upgrade that sub to something like SVS or Hsu subs when you can though.
post #29686 of 30951
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Originally Posted by UofAZ1 View Post

Evan is your center aimed at the seating position if not some mopads may help in "aiming" the center speaker. You also have to remember your Prosub is at best a mid bass sub and not a deep sub so this also may be affecting your overall sound. The best the Prosub 1000 can do is just down to 37Hz from then on down the bass gets muddy and distortion filled (hence why I call it a mid bass sub) in fact I have the Prosub1000 hooked up just to my center speaker and it just uses frequencies from 40-80Hz and that's it. For now use your center as small with a 80Hz crossover your 2002 will handle down to 80Hz just fine. I'd upgrade that sub to something like SVS or Hsu subs when you can though.

So then its probably good I ordered a SVS PB-1000 this week smile.gif
post #29687 of 30951
My new HT room has hardwood flooring. I was recently advised by a Def Tech dealer that spikes should NOT be used on hardwood. I have been using spikes for my (mains) BP2000TLs. I just ordered some isolation feet from HerbiesAudio. Any Def Tech owners here tried these? I have area rugs laid out where each speaker is. My surrounds are BP20004TL's but I'm more concerned with the mains.
post #29688 of 30951
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Originally Posted by steady teddy View Post

My new HT room has hardwood flooring. I was recently advised by a Def Tech dealer that spikes should NOT be used on hardwood. I have been using spikes for my (mains) BP2000TLs. I just ordered some isolation feet from HerbiesAudio. Any Def Tech owners here tried these? I have area rugs laid out where each speaker is. My surrounds are BP20004TL's but I'm more concerned with the mains.
Spikes are only useful if you have a carpeted floor and play at such high levels that the speakers move; spikes will give a better grip to reduce the movement. You can use them on hardwood, but they'll mark up the floor. Special 'isolation' feet don't do anything that any rubber feet won't do.
post #29689 of 30951
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Originally Posted by ThePrisoner View Post

My new speaker setup is complete. Everything sounding great. My 8060's are set to large and I'm only using speaker wire. CS-8060HD is also speaker wire only, with a crossover of 60hz and my 8040SR's have a crossover of 100hz. Anthem Room Correction set the crossovers. I may slightly turn up the sub level in the 8060's but I'm thrilled with what I'm hearing. Break in is not even complete yet.
Great to hear it, P. Wait until you get some hours on them and they'll sound even better. Best, Joe
post #29690 of 30951
I just installed BP-8060's, a CS-8060, and 4 SR-8040's in a loft media room (one side open). I was afraid of the open side, but everything sounds terrific!

The sound is so good that I want to upgrade a living/family room. The previous owner left ceiling speakers in the corners of the room as part of a multi-room music-only system. I put my B&W 803S's and HTM3 center up front and use the ceiling speakers as front height speakers and surrounds. The main listening position is a little forward of the center of the room, so the surround speakers are far behind, not at 90-110 degrees to the listening position but closer to 150 degrees or so. Music is excellent and the front sound stage for movies is also very good, but the surround sound effects are sadly lacking. I've played the same movie in each room and there's no comparison... I didn't know what I was missing until I installed the new Def Tech system in the loft!

I want to keep my B&W's if possible, but I'm thinking of replacing the corner ceiling speakers, plus adding two additional ceiling speakers as surrounds in the 90-110 degree location, thereby converting the current surrounds to surround backs. I'd end up with a 9 channel system with three B&W's in front and six ceiling speakers.

Would Def Tech bipolar ceiling speakers be suitable for use with the B&W's? Unfortunately, floorstanding speakers and wall mounts are not options. Thanks.

C.
post #29691 of 30951
Hello all,

Here is a link announcing something pretty cool. Definitive Technology has entered into a collaboration with 9-time Grammy Award winner John Legend. John is an American singer-songwriter and actor, who, In 2007, received the special Starlight Award from the Songwriters Hall of Fame.
He'll do some promotional work with Definitive, and will work with us on some future projects. Naturally, we're excited! Best, Joe

http://www.definitivetech.com/news/welcomejohnlegend
Edited by joeatdefinitive - 8/19/13 at 12:46pm
post #29692 of 30951
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Originally Posted by chas View Post

I just installed BP-8060's, a CS-8060, and 4 SR-8040's in a loft media room (one side open). I was afraid of the open side, but everything sounds terrific!

The sound is so good that I want to upgrade a living/family room. The previous owner left ceiling speakers in the corners of the room as part of a multi-room music-only system. I put my B&W 803S's and HTM3 center up front and use the ceiling speakers as front height speakers and surrounds. The main listening position is a little forward of the center of the room, so the surround speakers are far behind, not at 90-110 degrees to the listening position but closer to 150 degrees or so. Music is excellent and the front sound stage for movies is also very good, but the surround sound effects are sadly lacking. I've played the same movie in each room and there's no comparison... I didn't know what I was missing until I installed the new Def Tech system in the loft!

I want to keep my B&W's if possible, but I'm thinking of replacing the corner ceiling speakers, plus adding two additional ceiling speakers as surrounds in the 90-110 degree location, thereby converting the current surrounds to surround backs. I'd end up with a 9 channel system with three B&W's in front and six ceiling speakers.

Would Def Tech bipolar ceiling speakers be suitable for use with the B&W's? Unfortunately, floorstanding speakers and wall mounts are not options. Thanks.

C.
Hello Chas, first, I am glad that you are thrilled with the sound!
I suppose the answer is both "yes" and "no". In one sense, you want all the speakers in the system to have the same sonic signature, which works out well for keeping the timbre of the sound consistent both left to right, and front to back.
Having said that, lots of folks use our on-wall or in-wall speakers for surrounds, specifically because we offer various bipolar options. Having bipolar speakers for sides and rear surround works out well. In the movie theater, typically you see a whole row of speakers up and down the wall in order to get the best dispersion. But that is not really practical in most home theaters - hence the popularity of our bipolar surround products with other vendor's front LCR speakers. I hope this helps - best, Joe
post #29693 of 30951
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Originally Posted by joeatdefinitive View Post

Great to hear it, P. Wait until you get some hours on them and they'll sound even better. Best, Joe

Joe,

My 8060 towers volume levels are 11 o'clock each, my CS8060 is crossed over at 60hz and the woofer sounds real good with my volume around 1or 2 o'clock which seems high. Is this because the speaker is set to small with a crossover set? If I lower the volume to match the towers the woofer has hardly any workout.
post #29694 of 30951
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Originally Posted by ThePrisoner View Post

Joe,

My 8060 towers volume levels are 11 o'clock each, my CS8060 is crossed over at 60hz and the woofer sounds real good with my volume around 1or 2 o'clock which seems high. Is this because the speaker is set to small with a crossover set? If I lower the volume to match the towers the woofer has hardly any workout.

Setting the speaker as large or small won't affect the output (for the most part), just how low it plays.

Don't worry about whatever level they're set at, it's different for each speaker/location/specific set of circumstances. Just set them at what sounds good or use a decibel meter to set levels. My towers are 1:30 o'clock apart in setting when set to the same decibel output because of their position, but that doesn't matter at all unless you are frequently clipping or abusing the built in subs. My center's dial is also higher. Just think of it as an arbitrary dial that doesn't matter where it's set to sound good (unless it's really high and distoring). There are a bunch of factors that go into where the knob ends up when you're done adjusting, so being a few o'clocks apart doesn't matter. If the towers were at 9 o'clock and the center was at 3 o'clock, then it would probably be an issue..
post #29695 of 30951

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I am considering to buy the Studiomonitor 65 or 55 as front speakers. My plan at first was to hide them in a wall mounted console with speaker cloth in front of them. But I saw that they also have a driver on top.

How will the sound be if I was to enclose them in such a way in a console? My concern is that I will degrade the quality by doing so because of the driver on top.

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post #29696 of 30951
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Originally Posted by bradthebold88 View Post

Setting the speaker as large or small won't affect the output (for the most part), just how low it plays.

Don't worry about whatever level they're set at, it's different for each speaker/location/specific set of circumstances. Just set them at what sounds good or use a decibel meter to set levels. My towers are 1:30 o'clock apart in setting when set to the same decibel output because of their position, but that doesn't matter at all unless you are frequently clipping or abusing the built in subs. My center's dial is also higher. Just think of it as an arbitrary dial that doesn't matter where it's set to sound good (unless it's really high and distoring). There are a bunch of factors that go into where the knob ends up when you're done adjusting, so being a few o'clocks apart doesn't matter. If the towers were at 9 o'clock and the center was at 3 o'clock, then it would probably be an issue..

Thank you. I will listen some more to center and adjust.
post #29697 of 30951
Hi all: just thought I'd return to post my "new" DT arrangement after I built a new component cabinet. It went from this:



to this...



Temporarily using my BP 20's for outdoor movie nights on the weekend, but they'll return eventually as the wides. Funny though, I think I actually prefer 9 channel Dolby PLIIz over 11 channel DSX heights and wides. Just seems to have more of a "wall of sound" in the front, along with more rear surround presence, for sure. Try it!

Overall I just think it looks a lot cleaner now that the 6+' "tower of power" has been slayed, lol.

Enjoy your speakers, all!

James
post #29698 of 30951
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Originally Posted by mastermaybe View Post



Temporarily using my BP 20's for outdoor movie nights on the weekend, but they'll return eventually as the wides. Funny though, I think I actually prefer 9 channel Dolby PLIIz over 11 channel DSX heights and wides. Just seems to have more of a "wall of sound" in the front, along with more rear surround presence, for sure. Try it!

Overall I just think it looks a lot cleaner now that the 6+' "tower of power" has been slayed, lol.

Enjoy your speakers, all!

James
WOW that is a lot of equipment crammed in there! What are those two large speakers and what do you use them for? Those arent your subs are they?!
post #29699 of 30951
^ well, they certainly aren't the tweeters. tongue.gifbiggrin.gif

Yes, those are dual, dual 18" subwoofers...let's just say they were really brought about for an eventual, much larger, space, but they quite a good job where they stand now. smile.gif The goal was for things to appear much less cramped (than it was), so hopefully it at least does a bit, lol.

James
post #29700 of 30951
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Originally Posted by mastermaybe View Post

^ well, they certainly aren't the tweeters. tongue.gifbiggrin.gif

Yes, those are dual, dual 18" subwoofers...let's just say they were really brought about for an eventual, much larger, space, but they quite a good job where they stand now. smile.gif The goal was for things to appear much less cramped (than it was), so hopefully it at least does a bit, lol.

James

It does look at lot cleaner now, but what are you going to do when you put the wides back? I think you had them on top the subs at one point, are you going to do that again?
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