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Room is 20' x 16'8".. Towers might be a to much.. ceiling is 18ft or more tall... room is open on one side to staircase and rest of house


Since this is a Def Tech forum and you are not sure about towers I would have to say get the Def Tech SM65s and an CS8080 or 3 SM65s. I heard them the other day at Best Buy and was so impressed I bought some to replace my Boston Acoustics VS line.
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Has anyone tried to mount or place the studiomonitors 55 or 65 horizontally? If not how would the sound be affected theoretically by placing them in such a way?

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I read a couple of reviews from owners on the Crutchfield, One Call or Amazon site where the owner said they used a SM65 that way and thought it was great. He had 3 SM65s across the front.
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I read a couple of reviews from owners on the Crutchfield, One Call or Amazon site where the owner said they used a SM65 that way and thought it was great. He had 3 SM65s across the front.

The SM65's are great, my friend runs them as his 3 fronts and loves them. he had big enough subs for mid and low abse that the build in subs at 80hz crossover jsut wasnt an issue.
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[quote name="Stormsoldat" url="/t/625807/definitive-owners-thread/29790#post_23776598"]Has anyone tried to mount or place the studiomonitors 55 or 65 horizontally? If not how would the sound be affected theoretically by placing them in such a way?Skickat från min GT-I9300 med Tapatalk 4[/quote]I read a couple of reviews from owners on the Crutchfield, One Call or Amazon site where the owner said they used a SM65 that way and thought it was great. He had 3 SM65s across the front.

Thanks!

But it just occurred to me, how could I wall mount the speakers horizontally? Are there any such mounts?

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Thanks!

But it just occurred to me, how could I wall mount the speakers horizontally? Are there any such mounts?

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The same way you would mount any center channel. I would put it on a stand, but if I had to mount it I would have to build a shelf.

I have two SM65s coming in today. After listening to them at BB I don't plan on using a CC, I will just runt them in phantom CC mode. I keep trying that with my current speakers and they are just flat panel speakers 10' across and the sound very good; and thats in a two row, 8 seat HT. I expect the SM65s to do much better. If I find I need a CC I will most likely get the CS8080 only because the half inch thickness difference would mean I need to move my screen up.
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Originally Posted by LowellG View Post

[quote name="Stormsoldat" url="/t/625807/definitive-owners-thread/29820#post_23780146"]Thanks!But it just occurred to me, how could I wall mount the speakers horizontally? Are there any such mounts?Skickat från min GT-I9300 med Tapatalk 4[/quote]The same way you would mount any center channel. I would put it on a stand, but if I had to mount it I would have to build a shelf. I have two SM65s coming in today. After listening to them at BB I don't plan on using a CC, I will just runt them in phantom CC mode. I keep trying that with my current speakers and they are just flat panel speakers 10' across and the sound very good; and thats in a two row, 8 seat HT. I expect the SM65s to do much better. If I find I need a CC I will most likely get the CS8080 only because the half inch thickness difference would mean I need to move my screen up.

Thanks! That sounds promising! I've checked out that center too!

Too bad there is no wall mount that allows that orientation. I'll have to try to find some discreet shelf to put the speaker on horizontally then.

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After six weeks of waiting and a whole lot of magnolia bafoonery....My speakers are on track to get delivered tommorow. Soon as i get them set up, Ill post pictures of the set up. Wont be able to set up the bpvxs. no stands yet and too heavy to put on my current stands. Finished getting Jriver set up for DLNA server and music streaming to all my devices aka HT via my HTPC today. Cant wait to watch some movies with the punch of the 8080 frontstage compared to my aged entry level klipsch. If you cant tell....Im excited :-D
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Im looking to buy two fronts to pair with a Mythos 8 as a center channel. In my price range i can only get small bookshelf speakers. Im thinking either the Mythos Gem or Pro monitor 1000? I know the mythos Gem is in the same series as the 8 but the 1000 is only different by the bass radiators. Theyre cheaper as well. Which would be best?
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PM 1000s all the way over the gems for mains or any where else if you have room. Look for used SM 350s would be even. Actually having owned SM350s and the Mythos 8 I would dump the 8 and use the 350s in Phantom CC mode.
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After six weeks of waiting and a whole lot of magnolia bafoonery....My speakers are on track to get delivered tommorow. Soon as i get them set up, Ill post pictures of the set up. Wont be able to set up the bpvxs. no stands yet and too heavy to put on my current stands. Finished getting Jriver set up for DLNA server and music streaming to all my devices aka HT via my HTPC today. Cant wait to watch some movies with the punch of the 8080 frontstage compared to my aged entry level klipsch. If you cant tell....Im excited :-D

And they got delayed....even though the shipment arrived at 2am saturday apparently the service center cant get it out until tommorow, and cant update any of the tracking information which still shows it for delivery by end of day today. Someone really doesnt want me to have these speakers with all of the delays ive faced lol. The heart only grows fonder right?
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I just took the plunge into the DT arena. I am a long time Klipech Reference user but I had to move to a smaller room and my beloved RF-63's had to go. I ordered StudioMonitor 450's for my fronts, CLR2002 for my center and StudioMonitor 450's for the surrounds. I also snagged a couple of BP2's for the rear surround duties off of CL but I haven't hooked them up right now. I have to say that I am very impressed with the sound quality of my new speakers, different than my Klipsch system but not in a bad way at all. Anyway, just thought I would stop by and say hi.
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Originally Posted by K5/SS View Post

I just took the plunge into the DT arena. I am a long time Klipech Reference user but I had to move to a smaller room and my beloved RF-63's had to go. I ordered StudioMonitor 450's for my fronts, CLR2002 for my center and StudioMonitor 450's for the surrounds. I also snagged a couple of BP2's for the rear surround duties off of CL but I haven't hooked them up right now. I have to say that I am very impressed with the sound quality of my new speakers, different than my Klipsch system but not in a bad way at all. Anyway, just thought I would stop by and say hi.
Welcome to the club K5! Best, Joe
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Originally Posted by joeatdefinitive View Post

I am glad they are breaking in nicely GTS. I would say that the 55's and 65's are, in my view, much better speakers, but they are also more money. The 45's are amazing for such low dough. Enjoy! Best, Joe



Joe, I have owned multiple models of the old Def Tech line, 2006, PM80, BP1.2X, SC1 and SM350s along with a Mythos 8 and CLR2300. I have the first 3 models still in my family room.

In my HT I currently have the Boston Acoustics VS224, flat panel speakers as my L/R with the VS325C and 4, VS240s for surrounds. They are paired with and SVS PC12 NSD. I had the VS260s as my L/R, but they didn't hear the mids as well. Now I feel like my mains are just lacking. Limited music sound comes from movie tracks now and I think it's due to my L/R. I have hauled my BP2006s in the room and can tell, but with them in the room, I can't corner load my SVS and lose a lot of bass. So I think a pair of bookshelf speakers may be the answer. You may be asking why I am asking you this. Well here is what happened.

I went to BB Magnolia today and listened to the new SM55s and SM65s for about 30 minutes with music and movies. I can usually tell the difference between speakers pretty easy, but it was hard with them. I am thinking of picking up a pair of them and replacing my front 3 and just using a phantom CC with a pair of SMs. I still feel like I have never found as good of CC as when I used to run my SM350s in phantom mode. That's why I got rid of both the Mythos 8 and 2300. What would you say the main difference is between the SM55 and 65? Eventually I was thinking of adding a CS8080, but I just don't know if I could hear the difference.

Final question, any harm in using a sub as a speaker stand? I was thinking a putting an isolater like sub dude in between. Hello Lowell, I am sorry I missed this what with all the CEDIA craziness! It looks like you have settled on the SM 65's - good call. The main differences between the 55's and 65's are that the 65's play deeper into the bass range without audible distortion, and can also play a bit louder overall with less distortion. I like the midrange smoothness a little better too. I am glad to see you invested a little more as it's obvious you are passionate about it! I think if you do add a CS 8080 HD center that you will love it. That speaker has a lot of fans among Definitive customers. It's a bit too large for some cabinets, but if you have the room, it's a great performer. I hope this helps - best, Joe

Thanks,
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Originally Posted by anteroth View Post

And they got delayed....even though the shipment arrived at 2am saturday apparently the service center cant get it out until tommorow, and cant update any of the tracking information which still shows it for delivery by end of day today. Someone really doesnt want me to have these speakers with all of the delays ive faced lol. The heart only grows fonder right?
Hi Anteroth, I am sorry to hear that you still don't have your speakers. Sometimes manufacturing snafu's happen, and sometimes vendors just don't predict correctly in the first place on the manufacturing side. It is a constant juggling match with trying to have enough inventory to make sales, and not manufacturing so much that the bank gets all the revenue. I look forward to your photos when they come in - best, Joe
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Definitive released four new products at CEDIA: the Incline bipolar desktop / computer speakers; the Cubem, a portable personal audio system; the Mythos ST-L SuperTowers, and the SoloCinema Studio system. Check out this article from DealerScope and enjoy - best, Joe
http://www.dealerscope.com/article/definitive-technology-introduces-four-new-products/1#
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Originally Posted by joeatdefinitive View Post

Hi Anteroth, I am sorry to hear that you still don't have your speakers. Sometimes manufacturing snafu's happen, and sometimes vendors just don't predict correctly in the first place on the manufacturing side. It is a constant juggling match with trying to have enough inventory to make sales, and not manufacturing so much that the bank gets all the revenue. I look forward to your photos when they come in - best, Joe

Yeah, it was originally a hold up with changing the order because of the sudden 7000 discontinuation. No fault on definiteive. All magnolia really. I had to call them back every day for about 1 weeks before they realized they had to create a item code for the BPVXs after i tried to order them. That was already after 3 weeks waiting for the orgiinal ship date then another 2 weeks to reprocess order. Now waiting on delivery lol. It'll be worth the wait! Also do you know when definitive will release specs on the new mythos tower?

Also besides the bipolar sound difference what is changing between the mythos and BP series that is justifying the price difference? Seems these mythos st-l will be filling close to the 7000 price point and i am curious what the hardware differences are?
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Yeah, it was originally a hold up with changing the order because of the sudden 7000 discontinuation. No fault on definiteive. All magnolia really. I had to call them back every day for about 1 weeks before they realized they had to create a item code for the BPVXs after i tried to order them. That was already after 3 weeks waiting for the orgiinal ship date then another 2 weeks to reprocess order. Now waiting on delivery lol. It'll be worth the wait! Also do you know when definitive will release specs on the new mythos tower?

Also besides the bipolar sound difference what is changing between the mythos and BP series that is justifying the price difference? Seems these mythos st-l will be filling close to the 7000 price point and i am curious what the hardware differences are?

Got my speakers in, unfortunately the stand was scratched up when i opened the box so pictures of set up system will have to wait until they send me a new one but im getting the 8080St set up right now. Trying to decide if i want thesee carpet feet on or not. Afraid theyre going to tear up my carpet if soemone tries to move them and doesnt know . hmm..
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Hey Joe, the bp8080st towers come in an a /b pair correct? I thought for a set the active subs face opposite directions seems I have both facing the same direction
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Originally Posted by anteroth View Post

Hey Joe, the bp8080st towers come in an a /b pair correct? I thought for a set the active subs face opposite directions seems I have both facing the same direction

That is by design. They are no longer A and B in the 8000 series.
Congrats on your new DTs!
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Well here's the setup with my ghetto stand and just the 8080sts and my vt60. Will get the cs8080hd set up tommorow.
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So despite my lifelong preference for using bookshelf speakers in a nearfield configuration, Monday Newegg was offering the BP8B for $350/pair shipped (via a coupon). My setup is actually ideal for bipolar -- speaker position is 2-3 feet out from the back and side walls, and the BP8s will just sit right where my SM350s on their stands were.

I've never really liked bipolar when I've heard it in larger spaces than my smallish room, but I've never actually tried them in my own space. So we'll see.

(The rest of the speakers are a PC2000, four PM1000, SCII sub used to extend the mains, and an Emotiva X-Ref 10 sub.)

If I don't like them, I figure they'll be easy to sell for not much of a loss. Meanwhile the 350s go to the bedroom to replace a very old pair of Cambridge Soundworks Ambience, which will in turn go to the garage.

BP8s should arrive today. I'll break 'em in for 48 hours, run MCACC, and report back on whether there's anything to this fancy new-fangled "bipolar" thing. smile.gif
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I finally had a chance to listen to the 8080s and the frist thing i noticed that i love is the clarity at low volumes. The sensitivty is much higher than my old set so they get much louder easier but when listening to a personal favorite "crystallize" by lindsey sterling the notes were very clear at low volumes and i could hear perfectly in my kitchen even while putting away dishes. I didn't think these speakers would offer much wife approval factor but that will be huge when i want to lsiten to music and she doesnt want to hear it.
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Yeah dude I'm having similar woes with the delivery of my gear. Bought the whole 8060 system from Magnolia last Friday, and was promised everything would be here by yesterday. NOPE. Just got the towers day-of and 8040 surrounds yesterday. My 8060 center is somewhere in Virginia not shipped yet. My old Pro Center 1000 is getting trampled by the new gear..I really need my CS8060HD stat! Wtf. Anyway, I know this is a def tech forum, but I also just bought that 60VT60 plasma. Do you like yours? Even at night it's pretty dim. I can't figure out how to brighten it up so that whites look WHITE. Anyway, so far the 8060 system is phenomenal. My Supercube I almost makes it overkill, but I'm a basshead so it works out. Enjoy your set up!

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Just wanted to give a heads up on the AVS video interview with Definitive Technology, from CEDIA 2013.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1493020/definitive-technology-at-cedia-2013

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Yeah dude I'm having similar woes with the delivery of my gear. Bought the whole 8060 system from Magnolia last Friday, and was promised everything would be here by yesterday. NOPE. Just got the towers day-of and 8040 surrounds yesterday. My 8060 center is somewhere in Virginia not shipped yet. My old Pro Center 1000 is getting trampled by the new gear..I really need my CS8060HD stat! Wtf. Anyway, I know this is a def tech forum, but I also just bought that 60VT60 plasma. Do you like yours? Even at night it's pretty dim. I can't figure out how to brighten it up so that whites look WHITE. Anyway, so far the 8060 system is phenomenal. My Supercube I almost makes it overkill, but I'm a basshead so it works out. Enjoy your set up!


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I'm in the market for 2 rear inwall surrounds to replace some old B&W's. My room is 20'x20'x8'. I have Snell Type A mains driven by an Audire Forte, a DefTech ProCenter 2000 , that and the rears are powered by an NAD 906 in bridged mode (90w RMS/170w peak).

I was checking out the UIW RSS II because I like the enclosure idea but those will NOT fit the width I have to work with for the left one. The UIW RSS III will fit BUT will those smaller drivers be enough in my room?

The DI 6.5 CLR might be the next option.

I can't hear these anywhere, the dealers here don't stock any of these.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew101 View Post

I'm in the market for 2 rear inwall surrounds to replace some old B&W's. My room is 20'x20'x8'. I have Snell Type A mains driven by an Audire Forte, a DefTech ProCenter 2000 , that and the rears are powered by an NAD 906 in bridged mode (90w RMS/170w peak).

I was checking out the UIW RSS II because I like the enclosure idea but those will NOT fit the width I have to work with for the left one. The UIW RSS III will fit BUT will those smaller drivers be enough in my room?

The DI 6.5 CLR might be the next option.

I can't hear these anywhere, the dealers here don't stock any of these.

I installed a pair of UIW 75s for Rears in my room and have zero complaints. They use the wall cavity as their enclosure yet they sound great and definitely hold their own. (110+ watts per channel).

Cheers.
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I installed a pair of UIW 75s for Rears in my room and have zero complaints. They use the wall cavity as their enclosure yet they sound great and definitely hold their own. (110+ watts per channel).

Cheers.

Thanks for your reply, those do look like great speakers but it looks like they are the opposite problem of the RSS II, they are too narrow for the existing opening I have that is 8 inches wide, it looks like with bezel the 75's are only 7.5", can you confirm that they wouldn't completely cover an 8" opening?

That is a WAF problem if so.
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Hey Joe, the bp8080st towers come in an a /b pair correct? I thought for a set the active subs face opposite directions seems I have both facing the same direction
Hi Ante, no, the older BP's were in A and B configurations. But there was not a clear-cut case for continuing to do that from an engineering perspective. It was also kind of an inventory nightmare for both the retailers and Definitive, so the newer BP 8000 series are all the same set-up. About your carpet feet, in my experience, most folks won't come over and try to move your speakers on you, and the spikes add some stability to the speakers, which translates into slightly cleaner and clearer sound. I hope this helps. Play the Dixie Dregs "Night of the Living Dregs" CD often and loud. It will make the speakers happy smile.gif Best, Joe
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Originally Posted by Homebrew101 View Post

Thanks for your reply, those do look like great speakers but it looks like they are the opposite problem of the RSS II, they are too narrow for the existing opening I have that is 8 inches wide, it looks like with bezel the 75's are only 7.5", can you confirm that they wouldn't completely cover an 8" opening?

That is a WAF problem if so.
Hello HomeBrew, I replied to your PM earlier. Given that you have existing holes from your older B&W, you may want to check with tech support to make sure that the RS III will fit with no problems. They are in my view a better product than the UIW 75. Info@definitivetech.com or 800-228-7148 - ask for Adam, TJ or Chet. Thanks and enjoy when you get them! Best, Joe
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