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Originally Posted by rdclark View Post

Audiophile-grade Bluetooth? Tough sell. But I suppose they have other products planned, and wireless music distribution is certainly a hot niche with a lot of room for growth. I wish you great success, Joe.

I also hope the management at DT understands what an important contribution an online presence on public forums (not just company-run ones) can be. People see a company that stands behind its products, that wants to help them maximize their use and enjoyment, and they're going to trust that company the next time they're ready to buy.

I hope DT's official online presence, here and in the other forums you post on, doesn't end.
Hello RD, thanks again for your kind comments. I really enjoy your posts.
I think you'll find one of my colleagues picking up the forum contributions going forward. Actually it's been fun for me to interact with all the DT gang out there in the ethospehere... if there is one of those...
You are right that taking customer service seriously is a hallmark of a really good company, and I think Definitive has put huge effort into that over the years. It was only about 6 - 7 years ago that Chet was the only customer service guy. Now he has TJ and Adam helping too. I promise not to be a stranger on the site smile.gif
Best, Joe
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Originally Posted by Brad Sutliff View Post

Good luck Joe!!
Thank you Brad, best of luck to you too!
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Originally Posted by 7channelfreak View Post

Joe


I wanted to wish you luck ans say how much I have appreciated your help here. Keep us updated!!

Randy
HI Randy, thank you for your kind words, and I am glad to be of service. I'll be on here from time to time as it's a fun bunch smile.gif Best, Joe
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Hey Joe, I am wondering if there is anyone who can help me with the mounting problem for my pm1000

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I know this is not a soundbar thread, but since I see DT staff members posting, I wanted to know when would be the newly announced Def tech SoloCinema Studio will be available? There is no info on this on the DT website. I just found out about it through a website which had cedia 2013 news.
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Am I correct in assuming that when you are using a surround receiver in "stereo" mode, that all of the speaker size parameters are bypassed? Just want to make sure all the sound is getting to my SM45's.

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I just buy the procinema 60,should I really connect the front speakers to the sub as the manual says for better sound? 

Is everbody doing like these?

 

All over Internet I see to connect  the speakers receivers.

I am using a denon 1612.

 

thanks

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Originally Posted by dnordone View Post

Am I correct in assuming that when you are using a surround receiver in "stereo" mode, that all of the speaker size parameters are bypassed? Just want to make sure all the sound is getting to my SM45's.

You should still run the AVR's setup, or do it manually. It needs to know that only two speakers are connected and that there is no sub.
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Originally Posted by rodrigobiz View Post

I just buy the procinema 60,should I really connect the front speakers to the sub as the manual says for better sound? 
Is everbody doing like these?

All over Internet I see to connect  the speakers receivers.
I am using a denon 1612.

Try both ways and see what sounds best. There are too many variables to predict which will sound better in your room with your music and movies.
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Originally Posted by dnordone View Post

Am I correct in assuming that when you are using a surround receiver in "stereo" mode, that all of the speaker size parameters are bypassed? Just want to make sure all the sound is getting to my SM45's.

No, even in stereo mode you can control whether the speakers are set to 'small' or 'large' depending on whether or not you're running a sub. And if you are running one you still have access to the crossover settings.
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I am running a sub- thanks for the info!

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Joe, although i haven't had as much interaction with you as others on here i thank you for being here and wish you the best of luck in your new adventure.
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I have a crazy question. I've been running my BP2000TL's using Monster 1.4s Bi-wire cables with the cable High output on the Tweeters, and the cable Low output on the Mids and Low terminals (with a gold bridge - the BP2000TL's are tri-wire). Anyway, I've gotten my hands on a pair of nice stereo amps that I've decided to try bi-amping instead of straight bi-wire. if I'm Bi-amping a tri-wire capable speaker, is it better to dedicate an amp to the high or the low (since the 2nd amp will be powering the other 2). Since I've got the Monster 1.4s Bi-Wire's, I'd like to use those on the amp that's going to power 2-inputs. I guess it would help if I knew the cross-over of the LPF and HPF that Monster put into the M1.4's...that'll help determine which input would benefit most!

I'd only be doing this also, if I didn't get a great deal on the amps - because I know its a marginal improvement at best....but it'll be a fun project anyway.
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Originally Posted by rdclark View Post

Try both ways and see what sounds best. There are too many variables to predict which will sound better in your room with your music and movies.

IMO it's always best to use your AVR for bass management. The ONLY reason to use the speaker level inputs/outputs on the sub is if you're using an amp or AVR that does not have any bass management. Those would be amps/avrs without a sub pre-out.
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Originally Posted by Kini62 View Post

IMO it's always best to use your AVR for bass management. The ONLY reason to use the speaker level inputs/outputs on the sub is if you're using an amp or AVR that does not have any bass management. Those would be amps/avrs without a sub pre-out.

I understand the theory, and with larger, more capable speakers I wouldn't recommend otherwise. But these little PC systems can sometimes benefit from the "double bass" effect you get by sending them the bass from the main channels (by setting main L/R to large) as well as sub=yes (bass from the other three channels plus LFE).

It may not fit the theory, which actually says that it should make no difference, but sometimes it sounds better. Sometimes it doesn't, and sometimes it makes no difference.

It shouldn't matter when the mains' woofer and the system subwoofer are actually the same speaker. All the same bass ends up being reproduced by the same box either way. But sometimes it does, which is why I recommend the experiment.
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Originally Posted by WhiteJ View Post

Joe, although i haven't had as much interaction with you as others on here i thank you for being here and wish you the best of luck in your new adventure.
Hello White J, thank you for the kind words, and I hope to keep interacting with you here as I find this site to be fun!

I am here at Rocky Mountain Audio Fest with Mass Fidelity. The show runs through tomorrow Sunday 10 / 13 / 2013.
Are any of my AVS Forum pals here? I would sure like to meet you. We are in the lobby -
Best regards, Joe
Edited by joeatdefinitive - 10/12/13 at 12:05pm
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Hello all, been a while since my last post. That's a good thing though.

Just recently one of my BP7002's has developed a humming noise that doesn't go away. It's the right side speaker. When I remove the speaker wire, the hum continues which leads me to believe the problem is isolated in the speaker itself. I've also tried plugging the speaker into multiple outlets with no change. I unplug it and it stops but as soon as I plug it back in, there it goes again. I also tried plugging the speaker into my line conditioner (amp plugged into this) with no change.

Equipment I have is:

Denon 3808
Deftech 7002 (2)
Deftech center
PS3
Sharp 80"
Panamax line conditioner
(4) surrounds mounted in ceiling
Direct tv

Any help???
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How are the studio monitors for home theater?
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how are they compared to mythos 6's?
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Originally Posted by Brad Sutliff View Post

how are they compared to mythos 6's?

Which StudioMonitors? There are three models.

Personally, I think they are all better speakers than the Mythos 6 which, in my opinion, is too compromised because of its intended role as an on-wall speaker that needs to be lightweight and low-profile. If that's your use-case, it's a fine choice. If you don't need those characteristics, I think it's foolish to pay a premium for them.

At the price point ($400-450) the SM65 not only blows the M6 out of the water, but can compete head to head with any speaker in its class. The SM55 ($300) and SM45 ($200) are also terrific speakers.

As always, IMO and YMMV. And much depends on the room they're going into; all of these speakers are less optimal for larger spaces.
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Thanks for the reply. I was looking at the 65 but it is above my price range. However I do have a mythos 8as a center. Would the studios pair well? How well would a sm45 sound in a small room? Is the mid bass good?
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Originally Posted by sid369 View Post

I know this is not a soundbar thread, but since I see DT staff members posting, I wanted to know when would be the newly announced Def tech SoloCinema Studio will be available? There is no info on this on the DT website. I just found out about it through a website which had cedia 2013 news.
Hello Sid, they were planning a mid October release date. You might just call DT at 1-8---228-7148 to ask. Best, Joe
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Originally Posted by r8rs4lf View Post

Hello all, been a while since my last post. That's a good thing though.

Just recently one of my BP7002's has developed a humming noise that doesn't go away. It's the right side speaker. When I remove the speaker wire, the hum continues which leads me to believe the problem is isolated in the speaker itself. I've also tried plugging the speaker into multiple outlets with no change. I unplug it and it stops but as soon as I plug it back in, there it goes again. I also tried plugging the speaker into my line conditioner (amp plugged into this) with no change.

Equipment I have is:

Denon 3808
Deftech 7002 (2)
Deftech center
PS3
Sharp 80"
Panamax line conditioner
(4) surrounds mounted in ceiling
Direct tv

Any help???
Hello R8, my suggestion is to contact the customer service guys - Adam, TJ and Chet - at info@definitivetech.com or 800-228-7148. It sounds like you have an amp issue that either needs repair or replacement. They can talk you through it - best, Joe
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Originally Posted by rdclark View Post

Which StudioMonitors? There are three models.

Personally, I think they are all better speakers than the Mythos 6 which, in my opinion, is too compromised because of its intended role as an on-wall speaker that needs to be lightweight and low-profile. If that's your use-case, it's a fine choice. If you don't need those characteristics, I think it's foolish to pay a premium for them.

At the price point ($400-450) the SM65 not only blows the M6 out of the water, but can compete head to head with any speaker in its class. The SM55 ($300) and SM45 ($200) are also terrific speakers.

As always, IMO and YMMV. And much depends on the room they're going into; all of these speakers are less optimal for larger spaces.

I have to wholeheartedly second this. I have owned the Mythos 8, and Boston Acoustics VS224s which are similar. I have also owned the old SM350s and just bought some SM65s. There is no comparison, the wall mounted speakers are not even in the same league.

P.S. I bought some factory refurbished 65s for $260 each and they work and sound great.
Edited by LowellG - 10/12/13 at 6:02pm
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Thanks for the input guys. I love the mythos 8. So I'm looking forward to the studios!
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Originally Posted by Brad Sutliff View Post

Thanks for the reply. I was looking at the 65 but it is above my price range. However I do have a mythos 8as a center. Would the studios pair well? How well would a sm45 sound in a small room? Is the mid bass good?

Well, the 65s are only $100/pr more than the Mythos 6s you were asking about, and they would make a spectacular match for the M8 (same number of same-size drivers, voiced similarly.

But I think the 45 would also work well with the M8, assuming there's also a sub in the system.
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Thanks Clark. If i can't get the best i always try to atleast get the middle ground. So maybe the 55? Or would the 45match better?
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Originally Posted by Brad Sutliff View Post

Thanks Clark. If i can't get the best i always try to atleast get the middle ground. So maybe the 55? Or would the 45match better?

All other things being equal, I think matching drivers is most likely to produce a seamless blend, which would indicate the 45 over the 55 (these aren't identical drivers, but they are the same size, whereas the 55 has 6.5" drivers). But the larger the room, the more I'd lean toward a larger speaker. DT speakers all have a similar tonal quality -- "voicing" -- which is not to say they all sound the same, but that they blend with one another reasonably well. This is a situation where buying from a dealer that will allow no-questions-asked returns and exchanges might help you.

The newer SMs have a more advanced driver than the M8, so the match won't be perfect in any event, so having the right speakers for the room is the most important thing, and the results are hard to predict until you get them in there and listen. On the other hand, we're talking here about the difference between great and greater.
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Okay thanks for the help again! I'll have to try out the 45s. Sound like a better option since they're cheaper and will have matching size drivers. Saving me money!
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Originally Posted by rdclark View Post

All other things being equal, I think matching drivers is most likely to produce a seamless blend, which would indicate the 45 over the 55 (these aren't identical drivers, but they are the same size, whereas the 55 has 6.5" drivers). But the larger the room, the more I'd lean toward a larger speaker. DT speakers all have a similar tonal quality -- "voicing" -- which is not to say they all sound the same, but that they blend with one another reasonably well. This is a situation where buying from a dealer that will allow no-questions-asked returns and exchanges might help you.

The newer SMs have a more advanced driver than the M8, so the match won't be perfect in any event, so having the right speakers for the room is the most important thing, and the results are hard to predict until you get them in there and listen. On the other hand, we're talking here about the difference between great and greater.
Hi Brad, as usual, RD has given a fine answer. If the 65's are a bit over your budget, I think the 55's are the way to go. They use a larger driver, but none of these options will match absolutely perfectly - unless you use 5 or 7 identical speakers. Still, DT voices them so that they all have a family sound. Good luck! Best, Joe
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