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post #30181 of 30951
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Originally Posted by pilot20 View Post

Just to make sure I understand what you are saying...do you think the Sierra-1 center is a better center than the 8080HD?

I don't mind mixing and matching speakers as long as they timbre match reasonably well. My most important requirement is that it sounds really good, especially since the center is very important to overall sound quality.

And, the Sierra is less money than the 8080HD. So if the Sierra is as good or better, that's kind of a no brainer.

Thanks for the input.

Pilot

I will send you a PM with my subjective opinions. I don't want to down talk on the Def Tech thread.
post #30182 of 30951
Hello all, I am new to av forums, and a proud new owner of def tech bp7000sc speakers. Along with a clr3000 center channel. Just picked the trio up for $2750, plus a hell of a drive.
I dug out my garage receiver an old Sony 5.1 dts and went on playing in the living room! I gotta say I am blown away. Even with a used cut up 16ga remnant of speaker wire the speakers sound great.
I am flooding this post with info since I am new to blogging and not sure what's appropriate...
The purchase is the second in a series to start a dedicated theater room. I am constructing a 25 x18x 12 theater room with a projected image of 200" in 16x9

I am eager to hear feedback about which surrounds to use. I am considering 4x. Bp10 as they have the same 6 1/4" drivers, but am also considering 4x clr 2500 or 3000 depending on a bit more research into harmonic response and driver diameter as well as if having the other subs it going to throw too much into the room. I have no intensional to use the Lfe, just to have the speakers handle their own sounds discreetly.

Thanx!
post #30183 of 30951
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Originally Posted by Getagiftnow View Post

Hello all, I am new to av forums, and a proud new owner of def tech bp7000sc speakers. Along with a clr3000 center channel. Just picked the trio up for $2750, plus a hell of a drive.
I dug out my garage receiver an old Sony 5.1 dts and went on playing in the living room! I gotta say I am blown away. Even with a used cut up 16ga remnant of speaker wire the speakers sound great.
I am flooding this post with info since I am new to blogging and not sure what's appropriate...
The purchase is the second in a series to start a dedicated theater room. I am constructing a 25 x18x 12 theater room with a projected image of 200" in 16x9

I am eager to hear feedback about which surrounds to use. I am considering 4x. Bp10 as they have the same 6 1/4" drivers, but am also considering 4x clr 2500 or 3000 depending on a bit more research into harmonic response and driver diameter as well as if having the other subs it going to throw too much into the room. I have no intensional to use the Lfe, just to have the speakers handle their own sounds discreetly.

Thanx!

Here are the surrounds you need to match the 7000s and 3000s. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Definitive-Technology-BPVX-Bipolar-Surround-Speaker-EACH-MBHA-/190878471215?_trksid=p2054897.l4276

Just make sure you leave enough room for from the side walls for the 7000s. The room should be great.
post #30184 of 30951
I recently noticed one of my BP7006's was making an odd whistling and crackling sound that's coming from the powered woofer. The funny thing is that I live in an apartment and I heard this sound like hot water running through the pipes, which is what I first thought it was because I couldn't tell where the sound was coming from...lol. Could this be a sign the amp is blown?
post #30185 of 30951
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Originally Posted by Kurolicious View Post

I recently noticed one of my BP7006's was making an odd whistling and crackling sound that's coming from the powered woofer. The funny thing is that I live in an apartment and I heard this sound like hot water running through the pipes, which is what I first thought it was because I couldn't tell where the sound was coming from...lol. Could this be a sign the amp is blown?
Hello Kuro, if that sound is not coming from your other speaker's woofer as well, then it is likely an amp gone bad. If that's the case, contacting TJ, Adam and Chet at info@definitivetech.com or 800-228-7148 is the right idea. Give them the serial number, model number, symptoms, your contact info... etc. Best, Joe
post #30186 of 30951
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Originally Posted by Getagiftnow View Post

Hello all, I am new to av forums, and a proud new owner of def tech bp7000sc speakers. Along with a clr3000 center channel. Just picked the trio up for $2750, plus a hell of a drive.
I dug out my garage receiver an old Sony 5.1 dts and went on playing in the living room! I gotta say I am blown away. Even with a used cut up 16ga remnant of speaker wire the speakers sound great.
I am flooding this post with info since I am new to blogging and not sure what's appropriate...
The purchase is the second in a series to start a dedicated theater room. I am constructing a 25 x18x 12 theater room with a projected image of 200" in 16x9

I am eager to hear feedback about which surrounds to use. I am considering 4x. Bp10 as they have the same 6 1/4" drivers, but am also considering 4x clr 2500 or 3000 depending on a bit more research into harmonic response and driver diameter as well as if having the other subs it going to throw too much into the room. I have no intensional to use the Lfe, just to have the speakers handle their own sounds discreetly.

Thanx!
Hello Geta, if you're going the used route, it all depends on what you can find, in what condition, at what price. I'd caution you though to look further into whether you really want a screen that large in a room that size. Remember that the larger the screen, the more area the same projected image must fill up. My guess is that for a room your size, a 100" or so screen may do a better job for you. Companies like Draper, Screen Innovations, and Stewart may have info on their web sites that can help you pick the best screen for your room. Best, Joe
post #30187 of 30951
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Originally Posted by Getagiftnow View Post

Hello all, I am new to av forums, and a proud new owner of def tech bp7000sc speakers. Along with a clr3000 center channel. Just picked the trio up for $2750, plus a hell of a drive.
I dug out my garage receiver an old Sony 5.1 dts and went on playing in the living room! I gotta say I am blown away. Even with a used cut up 16ga remnant of speaker wire the speakers sound great.
I am flooding this post with info since I am new to blogging and not sure what's appropriate...
The purchase is the second in a series to start a dedicated theater room. I am constructing a 25 x18x 12 theater room with a projected image of 200" in 16x9

I am eager to hear feedback about which surrounds to use. I am considering 4x. Bp10 as they have the same 6 1/4" drivers, but am also considering 4x clr 2500 or 3000 depending on a bit more research into harmonic response and driver diameter as well as if having the other subs it going to throw too much into the room. I have no intensional to use the Lfe, just to have the speakers handle their own sounds discreetly.

Thanx!

Greetings Getagiftnow - and congrats on your 7000SC/3000 front soundstage.

Surrounds: LowellG is right. The BPVX's are a perfect match for the 7000s as are the BP-10b's. Me personally would not go the CLR2500 or 3000 route for surrounds. Having the bipolar speakers as side surrounds works wonders, especially in a larger room. Rears can be direct radiating however and work well.

I actually ran 4 BP-10b's for sides and rears with a pair of BP-2000s and CLR2000 up front. Sounded great. I eventually upgraded to the then new 7000s and 3000s, moved the BP-2000s to side surround duty and 10b's as rears. Completely love the powered towers as surrounds. Having the full range prowess on 4 channels is awesome in my opinion. Great for the 30/40 Hz punch so often found in most movies. Everything lower goes to the dedicated standalone subs. Thus in my opinion I can easily recommend to think two if not four more powered bipolar towers as your theater grows. Having the right room and placement options is key however - but it sounds like your room may accommodate. My room is fairly shallow thus eventually went with a pair of direct radiating Definitive UIW 75s (in-walls) for rears and another par of 7000s for side surrounds.

Cheers

PS - is your room 18' wide or 25' wide? I would agree with Joe, a 200 inch screen is going to be pushing it even if 25' wide. No way on an 18' wide room unless its an AT screen and speakers are behind it etc.. Not to mention will take a heck of a PJ to produce a picture equivalent to say the same PJ on a 100' screen. Tell us more however - sounds awesome.
Edited by KJSmitty - 12/2/13 at 6:43pm
post #30188 of 30951
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Originally Posted by Getagiftnow View Post

Hello all, I am new to av forums, and a proud new owner of def tech bp7000sc speakers. Along with a clr3000 center channel. Just picked the trio up for $2750, plus a hell of a drive.
I dug out my garage receiver an old Sony 5.1 dts and went on playing in the living room! I gotta say I am blown away. Even with a used cut up 16ga remnant of speaker wire the speakers sound great.
I am flooding this post with info since I am new to blogging and not sure what's appropriate...
The purchase is the second in a series to start a dedicated theater room. I am constructing a 25 x18x 12 theater room with a projected image of 200" in 16x9

I am eager to hear feedback about which surrounds to use. I am considering 4x. Bp10 as they have the same 6 1/4" drivers, but am also considering 4x clr 2500 or 3000 depending on a bit more research into harmonic response and driver diameter as well as if having the other subs it going to throw too much into the room. I have no intensional to use the Lfe, just to have the speakers handle their own sounds discreetly.

Thanx!

I'd say more bp7000sc's else bp10's smile.gif. What room correction will you use?
post #30189 of 30951
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Originally Posted by joeatdefinitive View Post

Hello Geta, if you're going the used route, it all depends on what you can find, in what condition, at what price. I'd caution you though to look further into whether you really want a screen that large in a room that size. Remember that the larger the screen, the more area the same projected image must fill up. My guess is that for a room your size, a 100" or so screen may do a better job for you. Companies like Draper, Screen Innovations, and Stewart may have info on their web sites that can help you pick the best screen for your room. Best, Joe

200" might be doable but you'll have to set back a good distance. My HT is 23'x27' and I'm using a 142" Carada. Here is a shot from 25' back:

post #30190 of 30951
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Originally Posted by Getagiftnow View Post

Hello all, I am new to av forums, and a proud new owner of def tech bp7000sc speakers. Along with a clr3000 center channel. Just picked the trio up for $2750, plus a hell of a drive.
I dug out my garage receiver an old Sony 5.1 dts and went on playing in the living room! I gotta say I am blown away. Even with a used cut up 16ga remnant of speaker wire the speakers sound great.
I am flooding this post with info since I am new to blogging and not sure what's appropriate...
The purchase is the second in a series to start a dedicated theater room. I am constructing a 25 x18x 12 theater room with a projected image of 200" in 16x9

I am eager to hear feedback about which surrounds to use. I am considering 4x. Bp10 as they have the same 6 1/4" drivers, but am also considering 4x clr 2500 or 3000 depending on a bit more research into harmonic response and driver diameter as well as if having the other subs it going to throw too much into the room. I have no intensional to use the Lfe, just to have the speakers handle their own sounds discreetly.

Thanx!

Congratulations on a most excellent purchase. I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents here. Many have already given you very nice suggestions. My first suggestion would be to +1 the BPVX for the side surrounds. I have tried both my bp7000's (both parallel to listening position and pointed directly at it) and bpvx in this area and found the bpvx to provide a more enveloping and diffuse sound. If bpvx's are not an option due to room constraints or side wall issues -or- you prefer a more direct sounding side speaker -or- you listen to a lot of multi channel audio or SACD, then go with another speaker with the same 6 1/2" mids and same generation tweeter (more BP70000's, BP2000, BP3000, BP30, BP10, CLR 3000's, SM450 etc, etc.). If you are doing surround back, then consider a more direct sounding speaker than bpvx such as any I just listed above. Also, even though the BP7000's have most excellent subs in them, I would consider better than average stand alone subs in a room of your size. You can add these at anytime, but you will notice a big difference in LFE with nice separate subs.

With respect to your screen size proposal of 200".....Screen size is a very personal decision. Many of us like IMAX. If you are an IMAX kind of person and love the "you are in the middle of the action" feel then go for it! I would recommend buying your projector first and setting it up to project on a blank wall or sheet and playing with it until you find a size that you prefer before making a final screen purchase. I have a very similar size room and have a two rows and a 133" 16:9 screen. I found that for movies, I certainly could have easily gone with an even bigger screen. BUT I play lots of video games and find myself having to move to the second row at about 18-20' back to play any first person shooters like Call of Duty just to keep from getting dizzy. Again, this will differ from person to person. I will say, on a whole, the trend is to go for bigger and bigger screens. Also, with a larger screen you have to consider your throw distance and projector brightness as potential limitations for a solid large screen image.

Have fun setting up your room!
post #30191 of 30951
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Originally Posted by Getagiftnow View Post

Hello all, I am new to av forums, and a proud new owner of def tech bp7000sc speakers. Along with a clr3000 center channel. Just picked the trio up for $2750, plus a hell of a drive.
I dug out my garage receiver an old Sony 5.1 dts and went on playing in the living room! I gotta say I am blown away. Even with a used cut up 16ga remnant of speaker wire the speakers sound great.
I am flooding this post with info since I am new to blogging and not sure what's appropriate...
The purchase is the second in a series to start a dedicated theater room. I am constructing a 25 x18x 12 theater room with a projected image of 200" in 16x9

I am eager to hear feedback about which surrounds to use. I am considering 4x. Bp10 as they have the same 6 1/4" drivers, but am also considering 4x clr 2500 or 3000 depending on a bit more research into harmonic response and driver diameter as well as if having the other subs it going to throw too much into the room. I have no intensional to use the Lfe, just to have the speakers handle their own sounds discreetly.

Thanx!

Here is a link to one of many calculators to help you optimize your projector/screen selection. I would do lots of research over in the video sections of the forum as well......

http://www.screeninnovations.com/tools/projector-wizard/
post #30192 of 30951
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Originally Posted by joeatdefinitive View Post

Hello Kuro, if that sound is not coming from your other speaker's woofer as well, then it is likely an amp gone bad. If that's the case, contacting TJ, Adam and Chet at info@definitivetech.com or 800-228-7148 is the right idea. Give them the serial number, model number, symptoms, your contact info... etc. Best, Joe

Thank you Joe. I appreciate the quick response. Is the amp something I can replace myself if I order it from them?
post #30193 of 30951
Thank you all for your replies. This is a general reply to all suggestions and inquiries. The theater room it not built yet. It is going to take up half of a 1200sqft game room. I am planning on a torpedo shaped room. The width is between 17 to 21' and a fixed depth of 25' wide. The ceiling is fixed at 8' in the back of the room and can be as high as 16' in the front of the room.
The projector is a panasonic ae8000 which I have setup in my living room and demoing on a 200" piece of acousticslly transparent screen. the speakers should end up about 12-18" from the back wall and 18" to 36" from the side walls angled slightly toward the sweet spot for a brighter mid range experience on a flat eq setting.
The room correction isn't set in stone, but I'm picturing bass trap foam, backlit, and front lit with blue LEDs to soften the otherwise ugly material. ( the theater room an game room will be modern contemporary utilizing concrete and stainless styling)

As suggested I will experiment with bipolar sides and direct rears.

The screen size will be adjusted for room appearance, but will take up a much room as possible. It will be acoustically transparent. The screen will be suspended between the ceiling and floor on aircraft cables, tensioned to prevent movement, but allow back lighting and screen modification as needed. There are zero windows in the room so light control is simply reflection control.

There will be two rows of seating three in the front and four in the back in a raised platform configuration. Also the rear of the room will contain a wall folding bed to accommodate romantic movies, or guests?! On either side of the bed there will be a bar for beverages and goodies. This will somehow accommodate the bed in either position.

Sorry for jumping around on thoughts this was written in between layovers...
post #30194 of 30951
The BP8040s are amazing for the price
post #30195 of 30951
I am in the process of deciding on my home theater speakers and am leaning towards -

PM 1000 x 4 (front L and R plus rear L and R)
PC 2000 x 1 for center
SR 8040BP x 2 for surrounds
SVS PB - 1000 subwoofer

Pioneer Elite VSX-70
Oppo 103
Epson 6030 ProCinema projector
Carada 118" Brilliant White Criterion
ATS Acoustic Panels (24x48x2)
12 gauge speaker wire, sub cable, HDMI cables, etc from Monoprice (I will save $560 going with Monoprice in lieu of the home theater install complany's wires)

The room is ready to go (12x18x8) fully enclosed and painted a dark chocolate (Turkish Coffee - Sherwin Williams). All that is left is buying everything listed above and the installation.

After doing lots of research, it is all finally coming together. Of course the WAF would prefer we spend half but this is our first HT with a screen and I want to do it right and not have to upgrade for many years.

This site has been great and have spent many hours here doing research.

Pics of course when everything is up and running.
Edited by AlexanderDelarg - 12/3/13 at 7:53pm
post #30196 of 30951
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Originally Posted by Getagiftnow View Post

Sorry for jumping around on thoughts this was written in between layovers...

No issues there,,
My thoughts were already jumping around with the wall folding bed and romantic movies comment - even more so when you tossed in guests.....biggrin.gif
- And I digress.. I think this theater may require a "theater build" thread with pictures. :-) The mentioned shape and materials are intriguing.

Given your desired screen size AT is the way to go for sure - also sounds like your planned front speaker placement is good given then 7000s. Given the increasing width towards the rear of the room having large bipolar side surrounds will definitely be beneficial in filling the space. Too small and they may have an issue competing with the front sound stage etc. BPVXs would be great and nothing smaller than BP-10b's if you go with towers. Yosh7's list above is good - 7001SC's could be added as well.
Fun, fun!
post #30197 of 30951
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Originally Posted by AlexanderDelarg View Post

I am in the process of deciding on my home theater speakers and am leaning towards -

PM 1000 x 4 (front L and R plus rear L and R)
PC 2000 x 1 for center
SR 8040BP x 2 for surrounds
SVS PB - 1000 subwoofer

Pioneer Elite VSX-70
Oppo 103
Epson 6030 ProCinema projector
Carada 118" Brilliant White Criterion
12 gauge speaker wire, sub cable, HDMI cables, etc from Monoprice (I will save $560 going with Monoprice in lieu of the home theater install complany's wires)

The room is ready to go (12x18x8) fully enclosed and painted a dark chocolate (Turkish Coffee - Sherwin Williams). All that is left is buying everything listed above and the installation.

After doing lots of research, it is all finally coming together. Of course the WAF would prefer we spend half but this is our first HT with a screen and I want to do it right and not have to upgrade for many years.

This site has been great and have spent many hours here doing research.

Pics of course when everything is up and running.

Since you said you are thinking about this I thought I would toss out a suggestion. I would just do 6 PM1000s as opposed to 2 8040s. You will have matching woofer generations all the way around and the same size all the way around.
post #30198 of 30951
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Originally Posted by yosh7 View Post

Here is a link to one of many calculators to help you optimize your projector/screen selection. I would do lots of research over in the video sections of the forum as well......

http://www.screeninnovations.com/tools/projector-wizard/

Definitely use this. I put in a 120" in a 12.5x21 room and have 2 rows. The first row is 14 feet away. My wife who gave me the OMG why did you get something so big has never once complained about the size. We watch all our TV an movies from the front row. The other thing I would add with the screen size is it shrinks with all the 2.35:1 ratio movies.
post #30199 of 30951
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Originally Posted by LowellG View Post

Since you said you are thinking about this I thought I would toss out a suggestion. I would just do 6 PM1000s as opposed to 2 8040s. You will have matching woofer generations all the way around and the same size all the way around.

I wanted to use the SR 8040BP as surrounds since they are bipolar and are built for surround use. I plan on putting them on the side wall. I will hit up Chet and see what he has to say. Thanks for the suggestion - you may be right on.

What say you, Joe at Def Tech?

Thanks.
post #30200 of 30951
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Originally Posted by AlexanderDelarg View Post

I wanted to use the SR 8040BP as surrounds since they are bipolar and are built for surround use. I plan on putting them on the side wall. I will hit up Chet and see what he has to say. Thanks for the suggestion - you may be right on.

What say you, Joe at Def Tech?

Thanks.

I had a Boston Acoustics set up before with 4 VS240s as surrounds. I now have 4 SR8080s. The 240s worked great and were better at pinpointing sounds. My problem is I am picky and the books shelf speakers firing straight ahead in a 21 foot room were bouncing to much. I dampened it with acoustic foam but eventually went bi polar in the rear. You may want to try 4, 8040s. I will tell you though, my room was 12.5x21 and I had sound bouncing everywhere. You may need to look into some sound control at some point. I just think the 1000s are a better woofer the 3.5 inch woofer in the 8040 aren't close to the same size as the 1000s. There are trade offs no matter what you do, you just need to decide. You might just look for some used BP1.2Xs to go with the 1000s up front or trade the 1000s for some SM350s that can be found dirt cheap. There are so many options for you. If you want to make the wife happy with cost I would do the SM350s with a 2002 center and the 1.2Xs. You will get great sound and it should be less money. The upgrade bug never stops though so be careful.

I just checked, New Egg has the SM350s for $250 a pair, free shipping. Unless your space limits you I would put them above the 1000s.
Edited by LowellG - 12/3/13 at 7:51pm
post #30201 of 30951
I forgot to mention I am putting up 8 acoustic panels from ATS. They are 24x48x2. This should help with the sounds bouncing off the walls. We shall see if 8 is enough.
post #30202 of 30951
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Originally Posted by AlexanderDelarg View Post

I forgot to mention I am putting up 8 acoustic panels from ATS. They are 24x48x2. This should help with the sounds bouncing off the walls. We shall see if 8 is enough.

That should be good in a room that size. I have 10, 3x2 with two floor to ceiling rear triangular bass traps. I had more but it dampened it to much.
post #30203 of 30951
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Originally Posted by Kurolicious View Post

Thank you Joe. I appreciate the quick response. Is the amp something I can replace myself if I order it from them?
Hi Kuro, each amp is a bit different in how it mounts into the cabinet. Also, some folks can rebuild turbine engines for a living, while others struggle to boil an egg :-) But many posters here have found the DT customer service team to be very helpful and able to talk you through these in-field repairs, so yes, it's something that you can do with a little patience. All three of them are really good guys too, so give them a holler - best, Joe
post #30204 of 30951
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Originally Posted by AlexanderDelarg View Post

I wanted to use the SR 8040BP as surrounds since they are bipolar and are built for surround use. I plan on putting them on the side wall. I will hit up Chet and see what he has to say. Thanks for the suggestion - you may be right on.

What say you, Joe at Def Tech?

Thanks.
Hey Alex, I say that my brother Pete and his family live in Council Bluffs, Iowa - right across the water from you! How's life in Omaha? I think Lowell G's suggestion has merit. Personally I am a big fan of bipolars for side speakers, and I like the SR8040's a lot for the price. But some of this stuff is personal preference of course and Lowell's thoughts are not incorrect. Chat with my bike-riding pal Chet and get his input. I hope this helps - best, Joe
post #30205 of 30951
I was wondering if it it recommended to mount 8040BP's to side walls. Due to my set up there is not a back wall there they can be mounted. If so, is there a wall bracket that you recommend for side wall mounting? Or due to the BP design, is it recommended to mount the speakers flush on the side wall with the existing integrated key hole bracket?
post #30206 of 30951
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Originally Posted by Tampa Husker View Post

I was wondering if it it recommended to mount 8040BP's to side walls. Due to my set up there is not a back wall there they can be mounted. If so, is there a wall bracket that you recommend for side wall mounting? Or due to the BP design, is it recommended to mount the speakers flush on the side wall with the existing integrated key hole bracket?

In a 5.1 system, the surround speakers should always be mounted on the side walls. Only 7.1 systems have "back surrounds."

If there is one row of seating, mount them maybe 6 feet off the floor and just behind the seating position. I highly recommend getting some ladders or something so you can try some temporary positioning before doing any drilling. The mounting hardware that comes with the 8040s should do the trick; they should be flush on the wall, above ear level, not tilted.
post #30207 of 30951
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Originally Posted by Tampa Husker View Post

I was wondering if it it recommended to mount 8040BP's to side walls. Due to my set up there is not a back wall there they can be mounted. If so, is there a wall bracket that you recommend for side wall mounting? Or due to the BP design, is it recommended to mount the speakers flush on the side wall with the existing integrated key hole bracket?

 



Yes, the 8040BP's would go on the side wall between 90 and 110 degrees (with 0 degrees being the center of the screen). The surround's tweeters should be at ear level while standing (not sitting). I like rdclark's idea of the ladder.

Oh, and Go Huskers.
Edited by AlexanderDelarg - 12/4/13 at 12:11pm
post #30208 of 30951
Im an advocate for good subs, especially ID brand subs. I've owned countless subs ranging from good to excellent.

However, my father has a DT SC2000 in his other home in the family room. Maybe a 16x19 room. I cannot believe the output coming from this little thing. And it gets such a bad rep. No one on the AVSforum can EVER admit anything other than ID brands are good subs.

Although it doesnt stretch down to the lowest of frequencies, the thing sounds absolutely excellent during movies for how tiny it is. Keep up the good work.

On another note, how much more output does the SC6000 have? I know the 14hz figure is wildly untrue from such small drivers, but Im expecting the -6dB point to be in the low 20s. This accurate Joe?
post #30209 of 30951
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Originally Posted by LowellG View Post

That should be good in a room that size. I have 10, 3x2 with two floor to ceiling rear triangular bass traps. I had more but it dampened it to much.

I highly encourage everyone to invest an hour and watch home theater geeks episode 177. Here is the linkhttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=raAyF5ksbkk&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DraAyF5ksbkk

I am on my phone....I hope the link worked out. If not just Google search home theater geeks 177. Absolutely fantastic episode on room treatments. I followed most of the advice and the results are stunning. Made panels with oc 705 equivalent and diffusers from auralex and achieved much at a fraction of retail. It does take quite some time in diy work and planning but it is well worth it. Many thanks to Scott Wilkinson and anthony grimani. Another person to Google that I have learned a tremendous amount from his writings is Ethan winer. I basically applied Ethan's thoughts on bass trapping and Anthony grimanis layout ideas with a diy budget and went to work. The results of properly treating my room have had more impact than almost any other piece of equipment I have put in my room. Much better imaging, tighter bass, much more clarity, and much better defined surround sound.
post #30210 of 30951
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Originally Posted by LowellG View Post



I had a Boston Acoustics set up before with 4 VS240s as surrounds. I now have 4 SR8080s. The 240s worked great and were better at pinpointing sounds. My problem is I am picky and the books shelf speakers firing straight ahead in a 21 foot room were bouncing to much. I dampened it with acoustic foam but eventually went bi polar in the rear. You may want to try 4, 8040s. I will tell you though, my room was 12.5x21 and I had sound bouncing everywhere. You may need to look into some sound control at some point. I just think the 1000s are a better woofer the 3.5 inch woofer in the 8040 aren't close to the same size as the 1000s. There are trade offs no matter what you do, you just need to decide. You might just look for some used BP1.2Xs to go with the 1000s up front or trade the 1000s for some SM350s that can be found dirt cheap. There are so many options for you. If you want to make the wife happy with cost I would do the SM350s with a 2002 center and the 1.2Xs. You will get great sound and it should be less money. The upgrade bug never stops though so be careful.



I just checked, New Egg has the SM350s for $250 a pair, free shipping. Unless your space limits you I would put them above the 1000s.

 



Chet at Def Tech suggested going with 4 SR8040BP's as surrounds and rears as his first choice, 2 SR8040BPs as surrounds with 2 PM 1000's as rears as his second choice, then 4 PM 1000's as surrounds and rear as his third choice. I am leaning towards the 4 8040BP's and am now entertaining doing 3 PC2000's across the front as L/C/R in lieu of 2 PM 1000's and a PC 2000. I am wall mounting all my speakers so cabinet space is not a problem. I just need to figure out how to vertically mount the Pro 2000. There have been a few people on the 600/800/1000 thread that have done just that and stated they loved it.

The upgrade bug is BAD right now....the nice thing is I have not bought a single thing yet. I started with PM 800's all the way around and now......well, you know...
Edited by AlexanderDelarg - 12/4/13 at 1:42pm
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