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post #30271 of 30951
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Originally Posted by walter scott View Post

I got a response back from Def Tech in ONE day. They will send me the little feet for free! I'm impressed!

Great products with great customer service! A diamond in the rough nowadays.
post #30272 of 30951
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Originally Posted by Patrick1229 View Post

Am currently running bp8b's as mains, a cs 8040 hd center and the 8040 surrounds. My amp is a marantz sr5005. Does anypne thinkI would benefit from adding an external amp (upa 500) to the system?



I had bic dv64's as mains, along with their dv62 clrs. While the 8040 center was a huge improvement over the bic center, my the bp8's arent really giving me the impression of a big upgrade. Any suggestions or ideas on how to get the most out of the bp8's?



Thanks in advance.



Patrick

 



I am going to be running the SR8040BP's as my surrounds and rears. What do you think of them?

Toddriffic has the BP8's for his fronts. You could PM him and see what he has to say. He has been great on giving advice over the years.
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Am currently running bp8b's as mains, a cs 8040 hd center and the 8040 surrounds. My amp is a marantz sr5005. Does anypne thinkI would benefit from adding an external amp (upa 500) to the system?



I had bic dv64's as mains, along with their dv62 clrs. While the 8040 center was a huge improvement over the bic center, my the bp8's arent really giving me the impression of a big upgrade. Any suggestions or ideas on how to get the most out of the bp8's?



Thanks in advance.



Patrick

 



I am going to be running the SR8040BP's as my surrounds and rears. What do you think of them?

Toddriffic has the BP8's for his fronts. You could PM him and see what he has to say. He has been great on giving advice over the years.[/quote]

They are great for what they are, and definitely provide a large sound. Upon unboxing, its obvious that they are quality speakers. They are quite attractive on wall. It really depends on your source content on weather or not you will hear them shine.
post #30274 of 30951
I just ordered a pair of SM350s and a Dayton Audio APA150 amplifier to use as a 2-channel music setup. The amplifier is 75 WPC, is this enough power to get good performance out of the 350s?
post #30275 of 30951
as long as you don't crank your amp to ear splitting levels you should be ok.
post #30276 of 30951
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Originally Posted by WhiteJ View Post

Another recommendation for Baja. I've bought from him in the past and the stuff is brand new looking.

Thanks, it seems as if Bajawaverunner gets high remarks from just about everyone. I think after the first of the year I am going to try to pick up a pair of SM55's and a ProCenter 2000 to replace my Polks and eventually a couple of PM1000's or PM800's to replace my rear speakers.
post #30277 of 30951
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Originally Posted by CaptainSpork View Post

I just ordered a pair of SM350s and a Dayton Audio APA150 amplifier to use as a 2-channel music setup. The amplifier is 75 WPC, is this enough power to get good performance out of the 350s?
Hi Captain, Swallen is right. It's hard to say whether a 50 watt amp or a 200 watt amp is "enough", simply because room size / wall composition, and personal taste in volumes, have so much effect on the overall level. My guess is you will be very happy, but if the goal is to get AC / DC in your living room with you, neither this amp nor the 350's will cut it. I hope this helps - best, Joe
post #30278 of 30951
Anyone here pick up that damaged BP7000SC on ebay for $500? Was looking to win in order to use it for spare parts if not a center channel biggrin.gif
post #30279 of 30951
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Originally Posted by truwarrior22 View Post

Anyone here pick up that damaged BP7000SC on ebay for $500? Was looking to win in order to use it for spare parts if not a center channel biggrin.gif

I too had my eye on it yet with shipping the total was $630ish - I think it was too much of a gamble at that price. Who knows what type of driver or amp damage could have been found within.
I do hope the winner good luck however. Even at $630 if all components are functional it would be a decent bargain.

Cheers
post #30280 of 30951
Agreed, I was mostly concerned about the delivery from there to the buyer. These speakers are so insanely heavy. I wish they were 30-40 pounds lighter. Good luck to the winner, they'll need to find a left speaker now lol
post #30281 of 30951
Alright folks, best speakers for heights? PM1000? PM800? SM350 SM450? Inwall? From what I read, it just doesn't seem like a very robust speaker would be needed and the PM1000 would provide lots of adjustablity. Due to being mounted on the wall, a crossover of 80 or higher should probably be used, so that seems to be a couple strikes against SM350 and SM450

Mains are BP7000SC, center is a CLR3000, and wides will be CLR3000.
post #30282 of 30951
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Originally Posted by truwarrior22 View Post

Alright folks, best speakers for heights? PM1000? PM800? SM350 SM450? Inwall? From what I read, it just doesn't seem like a very robust speaker would be needed and the PM1000 would provide lots of adjustablity. Due to being mounted on the wall, a crossover of 80 or higher should probably be used, so that seems to be a couple strikes against SM350 and SM450

Mains are BP7000SC, center is a CLR3000, and wides will be CLR3000.

I'm using SM55's tilted on their sides with the bass radiators pointed towards a wall. I have BP7000SC and CLR3000 as well. I'm crossing at 80 and they seem to work fine where they are at. There are only a few movies that actually use the height channels, so it is either Dredd, Expendables 2, or the DTS 11.1 demo when I actually want to use them.
post #30283 of 30951
Anyone interested in a def tech reference sub
Pm me
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post #30285 of 30951
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Originally Posted by truwarrior22 View Post

Alright folks, best speakers for heights? PM1000? PM800? SM350 SM450? Inwall? From what I read, it just doesn't seem like a very robust speaker would be needed and the PM1000 would provide lots of adjustablity. Due to being mounted on the wall, a crossover of 80 or higher should probably be used, so that seems to be a couple strikes against SM350 and SM450

Mains are BP7000SC, center is a CLR3000, and wides will be CLR3000.

I don' t know how big of items you want hanging on your wall, but the SM350s have Key hole mounts. I had them hanging that way as experiment. They work fine. The only bad thing is if you do it permanently your have to poke a hole in the sock. However, they sound incredible. If you have the room I would recommend them, plus the are $200 a pair shipped at Newegg.
post #30286 of 30951
The SM450s also have the keyhole option, either way the socks can be found on ebay for $30-40 each.
post #30287 of 30951
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Originally Posted by KJSmitty View Post

I too had my eye on it yet with shipping the total was $630ish - I think it was too much of a gamble at that price. Who knows what type of driver or amp damage could have been found within.
I do hope the winner good luck however. Even at $630 if all components are functional it would be a decent bargain.

Cheers

I stopped my bid at $350 too much risk will wait out to find a complete pair. My two pairs of BP7001sc's and pair of 7002 will have to do until then. 😞
post #30288 of 30951
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Originally Posted by chingon510 View Post

I stopped my bid at $350 too much risk will wait out to find a complete pair. My two pairs of BP7001sc's and pair of 7002 will have to do until then. 😞

Nice, how do you like the 7002 compaired to the bp7001's?
post #30289 of 30951
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Originally Posted by truwarrior22 View Post

Nice, how do you like the 7002 compaired to the bp7001's?
Hard to say. I really went from 7004 to a pair of 7001sc and that was an incredible jump. When I picked up another pair of 7001sc for rears it was packaged with a pair of 7002 that I am using as back surrounds.
post #30290 of 30951
If anyone here has a pair of BP7000sc for sale in the Bay Area California PM me! Thanks 😊
post #30291 of 30951
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Originally Posted by chingon510 View Post

If anyone here has a pair of BP7000sc for sale in the Bay Area California PM me! Thanks 😊

Chingon,
Do you currently run any standalone subs with your 7001s? The reason I ask is I run four 7000s, a 3000 and UIW75 inwalls for rears (backs) and the greatest change I made was adding two dedicated 15 inch sealed subs placed to the outside of my front 7000s. Not sure if you are looking to move the 7001s to rear (back) duty and slide the new pair of 7000s for mains - but if just going for larger subs in your mains I would consider keeping the 7001s and adding standalone subs. Just tossing that out there.
I know if I had a larger HT I would have another pair of 7000s for rears (backs) as well. Being surrounded by superb 30-40Hz bass prowess is great. A couple dedicated subs will have you where the DTs can't quite get to.

Cheers
post #30292 of 30951
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Originally Posted by KJSmitty View Post

Chingon,
Do you currently run any standalone subs with your 7001s? The reason I ask is I run four 7000s, a 3000 and UIW75 inwalls for rears (backs) and the greatest change I made was adding two dedicated 15 inch sealed subs placed to the outside of my front 7000s. Not sure if you are looking to move the 7001s to rear (back) duty and slide the new pair of 7000s for mains - but if just going for larger subs in your mains I would consider keeping the 7001s and adding standalone subs. Just tossing that out there.
I know if I had a larger HT I would have another pair of 7000s for rears (backs) as well. Being surrounded by superb 30-40Hz bass prowess is great. A couple dedicated subs will have you where the DTs can't quite get to.

Cheers

Thanks for the tip. I actually run two supercube 1's for subs. I was hoping that by going to a pair of 7000 for fronts would be better for two channel audio as well as better front stage sound for home theater purposes. However if the only improvement by going from 7001 to 7000 is in the bass area, I might just have to scratch that idea and look for better subs. My system consists of two pairs of 7001sc one pair of 7002 clr3000 and two supercube 1's.
post #30293 of 30951
When I was researching on how to piece together a home theater, I kept reading how important subwoofer placement was. It seemed like the last place you would want the subwoofer would be colocated with the main L/R. So I chose to go with the SM65s and a separate powered sub from SVS. I wish Def Tech offered more floor standing option that didnt have powered sub's in them.

The subs offered from def tech, while small and compact, just didnt come close to touching the performance numbers on the SVS. The SM65s and SVS pair up pretty well for both music and movies.
post #30294 of 30951
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Originally Posted by chingon510 View Post

Thanks for the tip. I actually run two supercube 1's for subs. I was hoping that by going to a pair of 7000 for fronts would be better for two channel audio as well as better front stage sound for home theater purposes. However if the only improvement by going from 7001 to 7000 is in the bass area, I might just have to scratch that idea and look for better subs. My system consists of two pairs of 7001sc one pair of 7002 clr3000 and two supercube 1's.

Yes, the 7000s and 7001s share the exact compliment of drivers/tweeters up top. Only the sub section is different. The 7000s basically have a Supercube Reference sub/amp and the 7001s have the Supercube 1 sub/amp. There is a slight size difference in the entire speaker cabinet and I never did get a chance to audition the 7000 and 7001 back to back, but I would bet the top end prowess is identical. I have also read that the 7001s were preferred by many given the smaller SC1 driver due to its more tight / controlled bass in regards to music.

Nothing against DT subs as they are perfect and do well given their size/footprint. But, and I initially wasn't a fan yet a larger driver / box sub can be/is a significant upgrade for the LFE and below. But I would say with your basically six SC1s and two 7002s (depending on configuration) you have plenty of decent bass. And if more low end isn't what you are looking for with a pair of 7000s you could save or have cash to spend elsewhere. biggrin.gif

Cheers
post #30295 of 30951
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Originally Posted by Shpongle DMT View Post

When I was researching on how to piece together a home theater, I kept reading how important subwoofer placement was. It seemed like the last place you would want the subwoofer would be colocated with the main L/R. So I chose to go with the SM65s and a separate powered sub from SVS. I wish Def Tech offered more floor standing option that didnt have powered sub's in them.

When I first joined the DT family back in the mid 90s with my first pair of BP2000s I treated the powered section of each as left/right dedicated subs for LFE. Now with additional standalone subs I have my 7000s configured as very capable "full range" speakers - crossed at 40 or 60hz and even run full range at times. LFE is directed to the dedicated subs but sometimes to the towers as well.

Sub placement is definitely critical and very room dependent. Having them collocated with your front mains however is typically the norm if not desired in many cases. Many folks feel that blending the DT powered towers with other subs would prove to be a challenge, and I'm sure for a music oriented setup that could be true. I did not experience that in my HT room though. I did perform the sub crawl techniques as well as several placement options yet concluded that placement in the two rear corners of my room gave the strongest base yet the front two corners, outside my mains, offered the "best bass" to my ears. I have yet however to employ a mic and software to pull sweeps/graphs to see if I'm any where close to a flat response - but I know it sounds good to me at the moment. biggrin.gif

Going your route is awesome as well. If I ever decide to sell my 7000s it would be for numerous SM65s or other similar size/capable monitors, and I would build two more Rythmik sub kits.

Cheers
post #30296 of 30951
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Originally Posted by KJSmitty View Post

When I first joined the DT family back in the mid 90s with my first pair of BP2000s I treated the powered section of each as left/right dedicated subs for LFE. Now with additional standalone subs I have my 7000s configured as very capable "full range" speakers - crossed at 40 or 60hz and even run full range at times. LFE is directed to the dedicated subs but sometimes to the towers as well.

Sub placement is definitely critical and very room dependent. Having them collocated with your front mains however is typically the norm if not desired in many cases. Many folks feel that blending the DT powered towers with other subs would prove to be a challenge, and I'm sure for a music oriented setup that could be true. I did not experience that in my HT room though. I did perform the sub crawl techniques as well as several placement options yet concluded that placement in the two rear corners of my room gave the strongest base yet the front two corners, outside my mains, offered the "best bass" to my ears. I have yet however to employ a mic and software to pull sweeps/graphs to see if I'm any where close to a flat response - but I know it sounds good to me at the moment. biggrin.gif

Going your route is awesome as well. If I ever decide to sell my 7000s it would be for numerous SM65s or other similar size/capable monitors, and I would build two more Rythmik sub kits.

Cheers
Agreed KJ, there's nothing wrong with mic / software approaches, but the tried and true crawl test works great, and it's easy, too. Best, Joe
post #30297 of 30951
I have a couple of questions regarding the BP7004's............how do I know which speaker is the right or left? which way should the sub side be pointed?
post #30298 of 30951
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Originally Posted by bnewt View Post

I have a couple of questions regarding the BP7004's............how do I know which speaker is the right or left? which way should the sub side be pointed?

It basically is up to your ears and or room dependent. There really is no left or right. DT did suggest having the powered drivers facing themselves - to the inside. However, depending on your space and or preference you may find it better having them facing outward. Its worth the effort of swapping them just to know/try. I myself always preferred them facing inward. Just an FYI - the new DT 8000 series towers are identical as in the powered drivers face the same direction - no more paired sets etc.

Cheers
post #30299 of 30951
I got around to setting up a recently acquired pair of used BP8060 towers. I was disappointed to find one tower is not producing any sound from the speakers (woofers and tweeters). The 10" subwoofer appears to function correctly. I used the wiring on another speaker and got a working signal so I'm sure the problem doesn't lie in the wiring or amplifier.

While I have posted an inquiry with Definitive Technology I was just curious if any others have had a problem similair to this and what possible problems or solutions there might be.

I boght these speakers off Audigon from a seller with excellent feedback so I'm assuming they left in working order.

I'm disappointed to say the least.
post #30300 of 30951
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Originally Posted by Shpongle DMT View Post

When I was researching on how to piece together a home theater, I kept reading how important subwoofer placement was. It seemed like the last place you would want the subwoofer would be colocated with the main L/R. So I chose to go with the SM65s and a separate powered sub from SVS. I wish Def Tech offered more floor standing option that didnt have powered sub's in them.

The subs offered from def tech, while small and compact, just didnt come close to touching the performance numbers on the SVS. The SM65s and SVS pair up pretty well for both music and movies.

I am running a pair of SM65s with a PB12NSD. It's a great combo, but my taste for even deeper bass is getting to me. I am looking at a Rythmik FV15HP now.
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