Definitive Owners Thread - Page 105

the problem is these companies dont care what you know or dont know. i once applied to every electronics store in my area. i went on a interview at best buy and thoguht for sure i was getting a job in the tv department. during this interview the guy admitted i knew more about electronics then the vast majority of his store. he even stated i would be perfect for the tv section. then only minutes later he tells me he will only hire me for the cell phone department. i asked him if the tv or audio sections had openings for my listed hours and he replied yes. so of course i asked why the cell phone department since i already explained i didnt know anything about cell phones. his response was corporate told him he needed to fill that position now.

so get this the guy told me he had 20 interviews and mine was the most in depth he had in a long time. he told me how well i would fit in and i could help sell a ton of electronics. he then told me he would hire me at less then what tv sales men make because i was working cell phones and my experience with cell phones doesnt warrent a higher salary (which was low to begin with). he then told me i would be moved to tvs within 3 months.

these companies throw people into positions there not familiar with to help keep the cost down. they then send that person into a familiar position and it makes it harder for the employee to get a better raise because there first 3 months most likely didnt go so good because they were just learning about what they where selling. after knowing many people who worked at best buy i saw how that end works and its a complete joke.

what would be a good sub for this setup?

bp7001sc
c/l/r 3000
(4) bpvx

my setup will be in a finished basement and im not familiar with the high end subs. to be honest im not sure if i will even need a sub with that setup. im thinking of just waiting till i get the setup then make my decision. but for now i figure looking around wont hurt to get me familiar. so far i have learned about HSU and svs. what subs have you guys found to match well with def. tech. speakers? specific models would be great.

Consider keeping it in the family and go with the Trinity. Its a very big step-up from any sub Def Tech has ever designed and its even wow'ing some of the passionate audiophile types on this forum.

Waiting to see how the bass in the 7001SCs reacts with your room is a good approach and if you're a bass head and want that gut wrenching bass, then take the next step.

What are the speakers of choice for definitive? Mythos or the BP line?

For me, it's the BP line, but I have the space to install and fill. I think the BP line is more "spacious" and less directional than the Mythos line because the main L/R fronts (BP7000sc in my case) have a rear firing array mirroring the fronts and built-in subs. Gives you a bigger "soundstage" to quote the propaganda.
For those with an "on the wall" installation, limited space or in need of the "modern look", the Mythos line is better...imho.

I currently have the same speaker setup that you have listed above. At the time of purchase I also was thinking to get a subwoofer or not. I decided that I would hold off to see how it all sounded and then purchase a subwoofer if needed. Well it has been over a year and I'm still subwoofer-less. If I was to get a subwoofer I would get nothing less then a 1500 watt subwoofer to pair with the BP7001SC. The Super Cube I would be a great fit. Personally I would spend the extra $500 on the Reference Cube for **** and giggles.

sorry about Katrina, it was so tragic just reading about it and seeing the devastation on the news, i can't imagine what it must have been like living through that

congrats on the 7000's, keep us updated with how you make out with them

Up until this Spring, I would have fully agreed with that summary. The Mythos ST has me revising my thinking in certain set-ups where I would have recommended the BP line.

Quick question guys:

Could the mythos solo be used entirely as a center speaker? How is it configured? Im guessing there are 3 inputs for the 3 channels, but is there a way to make it all a center speaker?
or am i way off and is it a dumb idea?

The reason I ask is because I think I can get a real good deal on one, but I still want seperate left/right speakers.... (mythos 2s or 6s or smt)

I have almost he same set up but use the bipolar inwalls for side surrounds due to room/ceiling set up. I purchased the Def. Tech Reference sub and I am very pleased. I thought hard about the Trinity due to the size of my room which is 34 x 20 but went with the Ref. instead. My thinking was if I need more low end I would purchase a second Ref. or Trinity at that time. So far I am very happy with my set up.

do you guys hve any 7.1 receiver recomendations with 4 hdmi inputs (& one out to tv) for $500 or less.

my tv only has 2 hdmi ports & i have 4 hdmi devices. i guess i can do the cable boz direct to tvs hdmi b i do have an hdmi witch which adds one hdmi port (2 inputs one out) so if there isnt a 7.1 receiver with 4 hdmi inputs fo $50 or less, one with 3 o maybe even 2 hdmi in, would work

The only one that I can think of that will be in your range is the Onkyo 605 but it only has three HDMI inputs and one output. But you have four items that need to be plugged in, so I would plug three into the Onkyo and the fourth directly into the other HDMI port on the TV.

never use multiple speakers on the center channel

if you do get the solo, just use the center as the center

The 605 only has 2 in 1 out; I have one. I don't know of anything in that price range with 4 HDMI inputs. You will have to up the price, or get the 605, (or something cheaper) and an HDMI hub. I don't know if they make 1.3 hubs or if that matters to you or not.

def tech hasn't put out a new top of the line center in over 8-9 years

the 7000 series is getting kinda old too

i wonder what they have brewing

the BP-8000? BP-9000?

the CLR-9000 with matching supercube?



i still would love to see a surround super tower

take the BP-7000 and twist it into the shape of a BPVX

the BPVX-7000

Hey fellow def tech enjoyers

I have spent the last year buying my local dealer out of all his demo models, (once you start its hard to stop). In that time I have aquired a pair of 7001's 7000's and the 3000 center.

When I wake up in the morning the first or second thing I think of is my speakers and how much pleasure they provide me.

Suprisingly I use the 7001s as my front pair and the 7000s as the surrounds. My room is conservative, 3000 cu ft. All speakers are set as small with the cutoff at 40hz, and LFE into the back 7000 towers. The best part of watching movies is listening and enjoying the complete ease at which these speakers immerse you into the action!! There is a lot of great bass from the surrounds and center that would be missed without full range speakers all around.

I am patiently awaiting the arrival of my PB13 ultra to really handle the LFE track. I love reading this thread and hearing about everyone else and there great experineces with DT. otk I think you should totally build a wall, floor to ceiling, left to right of trinity subs. I know you have dreamed of it!

PS Thanks for the incredible customer service of DT, I have had two minor problems corrected swiftly and perfectly from Chet and company.

LOL, i'm sitting here literally laughing out loud. i have had dreams of "walls of subwoofers"

i'm hearing such good things about trinity, i could see myself picking up at least 4 of them and stacking them 2 on top of 2 sometime in the future. i have a friend who can get me any def tech product i want for 1/2 price

sounds like you're building yourself a kick-a$$ system there

what kind of receiver are you using and what crossover point are you using for the 7000/7001's ?

i've heard some incredible things about the pc-ultra's also

I have almost decided on 350's vs. ProMon 1000's for my L/R. I'm still debating on whether or not to get the ProMon 2000 vs. another 350 as my center. Anyone have any strong opinions on my center choice?
Does Def Tech have good customer service that I could call and get an opinion from them?

Def Tech is great at answering questions either over the phone or by e-mail. Go to the contact area of their website to find out how to contact. Many of us communicate with Chet, who is great about timely responses and answering any and all questions honestly.

If you have room for another 350 as your center, that's by far the ideal way to go if you go with the 350s. Anytime you can match three identical speakers across the front (or all around, actually), you get the most seamless soundstage. If you can't do 3 identical front speakers (and many can't because of space limitations or whatever), then at least try to match driver sizes and materials in the speakers.

you can not beat 3 identical speakers across the front

if you can run 3 350's across the front, then by all means, go for it

*edit*

just make sure that you are running all 3 of them vertical

if you can not run the 350 center vertical, then go with a regular matching center or try out a phantom center

I'll third that, especially if you're into multi-channel music. Have to say, SACD surround sounds really good even with a horizontal center (my current situation)... Just keep it vertical- ha ha!-Tom -------------------------------------------------------------------Shop smart: Shop S-mart. YA GOT THAT?!!

I think I will have room for 3 350's across the front. Here is a picture of "my" entertainment center (from the manufacturer's website).

I think I am going to put the 3 front speakers across the bottom cabinets behind the speaker grills. The subwoofer will have to be outside the cabinet in my setup.
I think that is the best way for me to do it.

So given this setup, you guys would still recommend the 350 as center?

Thanks SO much for your feedback. I greatly appreciate all of it.

ed: There is one adjustable wood shelf behind each of those speaker doors. Should I put the speakers on those shelves to place it as high as possible, or have it on the very bottom without the shelf.

On a side note, I am also considering moving my PS3 out from one of the glass sections and into the speaker grill section. The PS3 is getting really hot if the glass door is closed. I hate to move it since I like its design and would like it to be seen, but I'm not sure I want to prop the door open a little when in use or take the glass out.

Ideally you'd want the drivers at ear level when you're sitting. The shelves with the grills may be a little low, but you could tilt the speakers up to compensate somewhat. We can see what others might recommend with that entertainment center.

Anyone gone from non-powered to powered centers? I have a CLR 2002 and am thinking of going to a CLR 3000 to match my 7001's. Worth the upgrade? What differences might I hear? The room is large 24 x 32. I also have a SVS PB2+ sub, so bass is not a real issue. I just want to know if it is worth money. I am running an LPA-1 amp soon to be replaced by a Parasound 2205A if that makes a difference.

I just spoke with a DefTech rep and he recommended 3 CLR 2300's over the Studio Monitor 350's. Obviously, that is more expensive, but he told they are powered. Will I get the bang for the buck by going with the 2300's over the 350's? Honestly, the MSRP difference of 350 (times 3) might be a little too steep for me.

With the 2300's you MIGHT gain a little lower end, but I know a lot of people that have been very pleased with the 350s. Based on the cost difference, though, I'd try the 350s first (or 450s if they're in your price range). The 2300 has the d'appolito array (Mid - tweeter - mid), so they might open up the soundfield a bit. But if you're going with that cabinet that you had a picture of, the 350s or 450s would probably work better. They're both very good speakers, but it you started with the 350s and felt like you were missing something, you may be able to recoup their cost a little bit better than selling the 2300s. At least that's my opinion, and others may disagree.

Looking for advice on a wall mount setup. I was considering Mythos GEM XL's for the L/R speakers. This will be 90% for two channel and I do plan to buy a sub. Not sure whether it'll be a DT sub.

Floor standing speakers are out of the question. I have crawling babies. Of course I'd like to get the best sound I can and my thought was leaving the base to the sub would allow me to mount smaller speakers closer the wall and with smaller speakers with the sub handling more bass, the placement would be more forgiving.

I was also considering the Orb's as well as Era Design. I know this is of course a Definitive Tech thread but I was curious if the Gem XL's were even appropriate to use as L/R speakers and how they performed in that area. I generally listen to music at modest volumes.

Thanks,

Ben

that would be a very good upgrade, i wouldn't even think twice about it

you will have a much better match across the front sound stage

you will also be going from a ported mid/bass section that shares it's drivers for both mids and bass to a sealed design on the mids which makes a giant improvement on dialog, bass will be sent to the 10" sub and the mids get their own sealed drivers

i upgraded from the CLR-2000 to the CLR-3000 and it was a big step up. you will see an even better improvement because right now your mids don't match across the front

I upgraded from a non-powered, smaller Infinity center to the CLR-3000 to pair with my 7001's. Really worth it for me, as it gave me a much more smooth pan across the fronts and more localization of dialog. It also helped with the "clarity" of the dialog by giving it an extended lower range.

i noticed that also. but then again, when he's sitting down in his couch, they actually don't look like they would be all that low