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post #571 of 30952
Two things -- thanks for the info on ceiling mounting the BP2Xs -- worked like a charm. Although the very thought of taking speakers apart makes me nervous, it all worked out beautifully.

Second -- we got all our speakers from Magnolia, roughtly 17% off. They also sold me my Denon 2807 receiver for what I could get if for online (about $820). I wasn't able to find anyplace with Def Tech speakers for much less (well, at least not anyplace I was willing to give my credit card number, you know?)
post #572 of 30952
Sorry for the serial post -- but a quick (and probably stupid) question: One of the setup options for the 7002 front L/R is to run a "y-splitter" out of the SW pre-out to each of the speakers.

We're running RG6 cable as subwoofer cable to the speakers, terminated with RCA connectors. Is a standard f-connector a/v splitter usable to send the signal to both LFE inputs? Or is a 'y-splitter' something specific that needs rca connectors to pass things through properly?

I currently have the fronts set to "large" and subwoofer to "yes" and LFE to "sub". (Running a Denon 2807 receiver).

Thanks all!
post #573 of 30952
Hi all Def Tech owners!!

I have an upgrade question. My room is 13 wide by 14 long by 8 ft high ceilings. I am currently running Def Tech BP 7004's, 2500, BP 2X's and the SVS PCi 20-39 sub.

I am thinking about upgrading from the 7004's to the 7002's. Would there be any significant improvement or would it be overkill in my medium sized living room?

Any opinions, suggestions and/or personal experience is much appreciated.

Thanks Def Tech owners. I'm glad I found this thread.

Audiomanz.
post #574 of 30952
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Originally Posted by Jediphish View Post

I am not asking for anyone to quote me prices on any speakers, however I would like to know from you guys (who have obviously purchased Def Tech's) whether their speakers can be had for any sort of discount? As an example, with Bose speakers (not discussing their quality or lack of here), Bose strictly controls the pricing. No store puts them on sale unless Bose says ok, and when they go on sale, every dealer discounts them the same amount. Most other speaker brands do not have "unilateral" pricing like Bose, at least as far as I know.

I am interested in some in-wall Def Tech's. There are only a few dealers in my home state and I'm not aware if you can purchase Def Tech's online.

So, my simple, but rather long-winded question is, will I be forced to pay full price for Def Tech's, or does your expeirence prove that the price is negotiable?'

Thanks!!

Come on - somone has to know the answer to this question.
post #575 of 30952
I got all mine for a discount at a local dealer. They run a special sale twice a year.
post #576 of 30952
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Originally Posted by Phouka View Post

Sorry for the serial post -- but a quick (and probably stupid) question: One of the setup options for the 7002 front L/R is to run a "y-splitter" out of the SW pre-out to each of the speakers.

We're running RG6 cable as subwoofer cable to the speakers, terminated with RCA connectors. Is a standard f-connector a/v splitter usable to send the signal to both LFE inputs? Or is a 'y-splitter' something specific that needs rca connectors to pass things through properly?

I currently have the fronts set to "large" and subwoofer to "yes" and LFE to "sub". (Running a Denon 2807 receiver).

Thanks all!

I have had my 2002 tl's for 6 years and wired them every way possible. IMO, forget running seperate lfe to the mains. Use good 12 ga wire from the speaker level outs from your denon to the binding posts on the speakers. You actually get better bass response that way (in my experience) I also run an svs sub for my lf.
post #577 of 30952
Thread Starter 
Yeah typically a discount of 15% is what to expect, it depends on the dealer and what kind of person they are. My delaer is fantastic so I get nice chunk off the MSRP.

~Bob
post #578 of 30952
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Originally Posted by g_bartman View Post

I have had my 2002 tl's for 6 years and wired them every way possible. IMO, forget running seperate lfe to the mains. Use good 12 ga wire from the speaker level outs from your denon to the binding posts on the speakers.

Just as a sanity check -- fronts are set to LARGE and sub to YES in this configuration?
post #579 of 30952
Sub to no. Only set sub to yes if you have a seperate sub hooked up. The bass will be sent to the mains via the speaker level output.
post #580 of 30952
I am in the process of buying a CLR 2300 from a fellow AVSFORUM member, and I am considering purchasing a pair of front speakers to match it. I do not have any room for floor standing speakers, so they must be wall mount. Is anyone using the Studio Monitor 350 or 450 as fronts? Do you think they would be a good match for this center?

-- Martin
post #581 of 30952
Thread Starter 
That center has a 150w RMS 8in sub built in, so I would say the Power Monitor 500s would better match but I don't believe they wall mount. You can always make a shelf on the wall.

~Bob
post #582 of 30952
Bob,

Thanks. I hadn't noticed the PM 500. It does look like it could be a better match, though it is quite a bit more money. I think it might JUST fit in my space too.

I spoke to Chet at Definitive yesterday and he said that the SM350 would be a good match, but I did not ask him about the PM500, nor did he suggest it.

-- Martin
post #583 of 30952
right now i have my lfe going to my 2 towers. i dont have an external sub hooked up so should i set my sub to none? since i have the lfe hooked up shouldnt i keep the sub on?
post #584 of 30952
Quote:
Originally posted by mschiff:
I am in the process of buying a CLR 2300 from a fellow AVSFORUM member, and I am considering purchasing a pair of front speakers to match it. I do not have any room for floor standing speakers, so they must be wall mount. Is anyone using the Studio Monitor 350 or 450 as fronts? Do you think they would be a good match for this center?

I upgraded my 350's to a used pair of BP2006TLs. However, I tried both the 2006 and the 350s with the 2300. If you have a separate sub, the 350s are more detailed than the 2006s. However, due to the WAF, I need the subs in the 2006s.

You are welcome to get more responses, but if you are interested, I am selling my 350s and they are in mint condition. I had planned on using them for surrounds, but again, didn't meet the WAF. Let me know if you are interested. Read the review on the Def Tech site. they are compact crystal clear 3-way speaker. The only thing that doesn't match is the 4.5 vs. the 5.25. Other than that they both have 1 inch tweeters and 8 inch subs. It's just the 350s get the power from your receiver. I even have Sanus stands. I can send you pics if you are interested.
post #585 of 30952
Lowell,

See my PM.

-- Martin
post #586 of 30952
Quote:
Originally Posted by audiomanz View Post

Hi all Def Tech owners!!

I have an upgrade question. My room is 13 wide by 14 long by 8 ft high ceilings. I am currently running Def Tech BP 7004's, 2500, BP 2X's and the SVS PCi 20-39 sub.

I am thinking about upgrading from the 7004's to the 7002's. Would there be any significant improvement or would it be overkill in my medium sized living room?

Any opinions, suggestions and/or personal experience is much appreciated.

Thanks Def Tech owners. I'm glad I found this thread.

Audiomanz.

Can any Def Tech owners out there provide any insight to my thread. I thought this was an Def Tech owners thread for support, opinions, suggestions etc. Correct me if I'm wrong.
post #587 of 30952
Thread Starter 
You will have alot more SPL in the midrange and maybe some more in the lower octaves. Since you are doubling the midrange drivers. I see no reason why not to upgrade.

And you can always rely on the people in this particular thread.

~Bob
post #588 of 30952
Quote:


Originally Posted by audiomanz
Hi all Def Tech owners!!

I have an upgrade question. My room is 13 wide by 14 long by 8 ft high ceilings. I am currently running Def Tech BP 7004's, 2500, BP 2X's and the SVS PCi 20-39 sub.

I am thinking about upgrading from the 7004's to the 7002's. Would there be any significant improvement or would it be overkill in my medium sized living room?

Any opinions, suggestions and/or personal experience is much appreciated.

Thanks Def Tech owners. I'm glad I found this thread.

Audiomanz.

Let me try. I don't own either pair, I would have to ask you what is your goal, clarity, bass, volume? I have a 23x21x10 with BP2006, 2300 and 1.2x rears. I have no separate sub, but plan on adding one someday. The one like yours is what I am looking at or maybe the new SVS sealed sub when it comes out.

Anyway, the bass from the 2006s virbrate the walls enough to piss off my wife. I wish I had 7004s, because of their size and the better subs. The 7002 are two large for me. This is all just my opinion, but give us a starting point on what you hope to gain by upgrading. IMO it would be overkill, but again, everybody has different expectations.

I think your system would be better off in my house, want to trade? :-)
post #589 of 30952
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Originally Posted by audiomanz View Post

I thought this was an Def Tech owners thread for support, opinions, suggestions etc. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Wow...a brand new noob with 6 posts (not threads) under his belt and you're already coming of like Yosemite Sam...nice going... "What in tarnations?!?!? Where's those damn rootin' tootin' Def Tech owners at?!?!?!? I'll show 'em!?!?!?!? They think they can run their rabble-snabble on me...We'll see about that!"

J.
post #590 of 30952
Good stuff
post #591 of 30952
Are there any def. tech. custom installers in the portland, oregon area that anyone can recommend? I am changing my system and need som guidance.

Thanks in advance,

Rhettsker
post #592 of 30952
Last week I purchased an RCA HD player which has a fantastic picture and audio output. But much like painting one room, it makes the others look less than stellar. It was time to upgrade the old Infinity SM120's that I had for the last 10 yrs. I was lucky enough to snag a pair of BP70001's and a pair of BPX surrounds for almost half off the MSRP at the Myer-Emco sale. I need to pick up a center, and from reading the posts, it sounds like the CLR2500 would be the way to go. Unfortunately all they had were 2300's, so I thought I would wait. This is my first pair of bi-polar speakers, and I am surprised by the way they fill the room with sound. The sweet spot in my theater is definitely much larger now than with the old speakers. The only thing I don't like about the DT speakers is the end caps. I got the gloss black, and they shine in the theater. I wish they made a matte black cap. I will probably end up putting some black felt on the tops to cut down on the reflections. Other than that, I am very pleased so far.

I do have a question, but it is not really specific to DT. My HK 635 amp only has one sub out. I have both the 7001's hooked up to the LFE right now with a Y-connector, and I need to add my DT 200TL sub and my buttkicker amp. Is adding another splitter going to be too much? Can you hook 4 pieces of equipment to one LFE output or is that going to overload the system? If that is not a good idea, is there any disadvantage to only hooking up the L/R speaker cables to the 7001's and only use the LFE channel for my sub and buttkicker amp input? I am open to any suggestions.
post #593 of 30952
Hi Def Tech owners...my apologies for my poor performance with the recent thread...seems I gots impatient and it can be a weakness of mine.

Thanks for the replies and my mission is to seek more clarity in the midrange, add a bit more thump and be futureproof when the time comes to move in a bigger place. Today I had a listen to the BP7002's and I walked out of the store quite impressed and have decided to do a tradeup with my dealer. From previous threads I see you can never have enough low end and power. More is always better so this is what I am seeking by purchasing the BP 7002's. I'm sure I will be quite happy with them for years to come.

I would still appreciate any information from those who currently have this setup. Thanks and again my apologies for that not so great sounding thread.


Audiomanz
post #594 of 30952
Quote:
Originally Posted by bakpakva View Post

Last week I purchased an RCA HD player which has a fantastic picture and audio output. But much like painting one room, it makes the others look less than stellar. It was time to upgrade the old Infinity SM120's that I had for the last 10 yrs. I was lucky enough to snag a pair of BP70001's and a pair of BPX surrounds for almost half off the MSRP at the Myer-Emco sale. I need to pick up a center, and from reading the posts, it sounds like the CLR2500 would be the way to go. Unfortunately all they had were 2300's, so I thought I would wait. This is my first pair of bi-polar speakers, and I am surprised by the way they fill the room with sound. The sweet spot in my theater is definitely much larger now than with the old speakers. The only thing I don't like about the DT speakers is the end caps. I got the gloss black, and they shine in the theater. I wish they made a matte black cap. I will probably end up putting some black felt on the tops to cut down on the reflections. Other than that, I am very pleased so far.

I do have a question, but it is not really specific to DT. My HK 635 amp only has one sub out. I have both the 7001's hooked up to the LFE right now with a Y-connector, and I need to add my DT 200TL sub and my buttkicker amp. Is adding another splitter going to be too much? Can you hook 4 pieces of equipment to one LFE output or is that going to overload the system? If that is not a good idea, is there any disadvantage to only hooking up the L/R speaker cables to the 7001's and only use the LFE channel for my sub and buttkicker amp input? I am open to any suggestions.

Welcome to the deftech family. From much experience, I have found it best to go straight from the speaker level out of the amp to the speaker binding posts using 12 ga wire. Using the lfe on the towers actually DECREASED the bass output. That will solve your problem of too many splitters. Set your front speakers to "large." You also get the advantage of stereo bass when listening to music...
post #595 of 30952
Quote:
Originally Posted by g_bartman View Post

Welcome to the deftech family. From much experience, I have found it best to go straight from the speaker level out of the amp to the speaker binding posts using 12 ga wire. Using the lfe on the towers actually DECREASED the bass output. That will solve your problem of too many splitters. Set your front speakers to "large." You also get the advantage of stereo bass when listening to music...

Makes very good sense, and I had it connected like that at first, but decided to try the LFE as well. I was concerned that the cut-off on the HK bass management, or in the RCA HD player would divert all the low frequencies to the sub. I will try equalizing again with the Pro sub connected, and see how that works. I may have had the gain on the back of the 7001's turned all the way off when I equalized last time because I didn't hear anything coming out of them. I find I only need to set the gain at 1/4 to get more than enough bass. I am wondering if I even need the extra sub, or if it may make things worse depending on the location. These speakers rock!
post #596 of 30952
Quote:
Originally Posted by g_bartman View Post

Welcome to the deftech family. From much experience, I have found it best to go straight from the speaker level out of the amp to the speaker binding posts using 12 ga wire. Using the lfe on the towers actually DECREASED the bass output. That will solve your problem of too many splitters. Set your front speakers to "large." You also get the advantage of stereo bass when listening to music...

That's what I do (7004s).....never looked back.
post #597 of 30952
Anyone know if the manuals are available online as pdf's for the 7000 series? I have looked all over their website, but there really isn't much there except marketing reviews. I didn't get a manual with mine, although they are sending one out. along with a warranty card. I also didn't get the mounting plates for the BPX's, but they are sending me a pair of those as well. Customer suppport has been very good to me so far. Does anything else usually come with these speakers?

Do you guys usually face the subs in the towers towards each other or towards the wall? Perhaps most of these questions will be answered in the manual?
post #598 of 30952
DT suggests pointing the subs in for more uniform response, I agree.
post #599 of 30952
Quote:
Originally Posted by bakpakva View Post

Anyone know if the manuals are available online as pdf's for the 7000 series? I have looked all over their website, but there really isn't much there except marketing reviews. I didn't get a manual with mine, although they are sending one out. along with a warranty card. I also didn't get the mounting plates for the BPX's, but they are sending me a pair of those as well. Customer suppport has been very good to me so far. Does anything else usually come with these speakers?

Do you guys usually face the subs in the towers towards each other or towards the wall? Perhaps most of these questions will be answered in the manual?

Facing the towers sub-woofers really depends on your listening area and personal preference (experiment both ways)....mine are set facing each other and are about 6 feet apart.... Carpet spikes should have been included and are important if placing on carpet.....
post #600 of 30952
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Originally Posted by Jediphish View Post

Come on - somone has to know the answer to this question.

I am deciding to get either the 7004 or 7006..tomorrow and at my local BB the sales person mentioned that a BB Coupon that is for 12% off... could be used on the Def Tech's.. I will know after noon if that is possible.

Question.. The room I plan to put them in is is 26'x22'x8'... would two 7006's be too "small" for the room?
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