Definitive Owners Thread - Page 30

Originally Posted by Jake Sm

If the independant was any good, I'd take MiniMags price back to him....I doubt you want to take buisness away from him because the BestBuy is such a profoundly better auditioning environment. There is an ongoing struggle between D&M Holdings, Harmon International, Directed Audio , and Klipsch+, to sew up the large dealers CC, TWEETER, BB , Walmart, etc, so much so that I wouldn't bet on any brands staying with any one of these companies for long...they will be re-alligning.

Originally Posted by Neo-Geo

The C/L/R 2300 would be the appropriate match with the BP7006 fronts. That or change your fronts to 7004's or 7002's.

Originally Posted by Neo-Geo

Sparky32, I have a similar setup to you:

BP7006 for left and right, both set to large, speaker wire only
CLR 2300 center, set to small, speaker wire only
MartinLogan Descent (10 sub x 3), LFE in
- crossover set to 80hz

I find that my sub blends perfectly fine and so your ProSub1000 should blend even better (not overkill). The three 8s in the 7006 fronts and 2300 center don't go very low so you would definitely be much better off with a dedicated sub for HT and music. If I turn my dedicated sub off for a movie, say Lord of the Rings, then the difference is night and day. With the sub on it's a big wow factor, something those 8s aren't' capable of. IMO, overkill would be adding a standalone subwoofer for a pair of 7000SC's, you'd be on the right path for a hearing aid.

Originally Posted by RandysWay

OK, here is the best deal that I've been offered so far. Do you think that this is a pretty good deal? Can I do better?

2X BP-7002 Fronts
1X CLR-2500 Center
1X SuperCube I Sub
2X BP2X Rear Surrounds

TOTAL: $3500.00 + Tax + Free Installation

And the other option he gave me..

2X BP-7002 Fronts
1X CLR-2002 Center
1X SuperCube Reference Sub
2X BP2X Rear Surrounds

TOTAL: $3950.00 + Tax + Free Installation

Does anyone have any experience or feedback regarding DependableAudioVideo's web site?

I read a thread about DigitalCraze that was not positive but DependableAudioVideo web site (I'm new so this site won't let me post url's yet) seems to have some pretty competivie deals.

Originally Posted by khellandros66

Stubeef,

The PM500s are phenominal speakers, truly a great blend of power and finesse. The fact you ger a high quality Seas 5.25in midrange and Vifa tweeter plus a 8in Vifa sub. the sub is tuned a 25hz giving much more extension then any other bookshelf I have ever heard.

~Bob

Originally Posted by Tarheel72

Can I please get an opinion from Def Tech owners on the value of bipolar speakers in my set up? I currently have Promonitor 200's for front L/R, a Procenter C2, and a pair of Promonitors 100's for surrounds (also a 12" 250W Phase Technology sub). These are driven by a HK 635. I have my main system in a "great room" that basically opens up into the kitchen/breakfast area. The entire floor plan of the house is very open. Facring the display, I have a solid wall on my left that is 22' high. On the right, the room opens into the kitchen/breakfast are but that area has a 10' ceiling. So I have a wall that begins about 10" up and continues to the 22' ceiling. At the rear the room is completely open and flows into the foyer and a double stair case.

There is not really any wall for the bipolars to radiate on, so for this reason I went with the Promonitor 100. They are mounted approximately 12' high and 5' behind the listing area (the left surround is about 4" higher than the right, due to the location of the speaker wire). Using the adjustable mounts, I have them aimed slightly forward and downward. Please see the pictures below.

Although my overall sound is actually pretty good and is well balanced, I have always wanted to use bipolars, but I question whether or not I will get any benefit from them, given the lay out of the room. I would probably go with the BP2X if I did. What are your thoughts? thanks.

Originally Posted by IlEagle

Hey ya'll -

I am the new proud owner of a Definitive setup... My first true home theater.

Here's a quick list (Any and all input, good or bad, is encouraged!)

-7002's Up front

-CLR2300 Center

-BP2X's Out back

-Supercube II

I should have everything delivered and ready to go by early next week. I couldn't be more anxious Only thing left to purchase is the Elite VSX-84 Receiver I hope it knocks my socks off.

And btw, I currently am running a Samsung S4253 42" Plasma.. After the Def Tech's are done, I'm going to move this TV to the bedroom and look at the Sammy 71" DLP

Originally Posted by jubess

-7006 up front
-c/l/r 2002
-bp2x rears
-supercube II
-Pio elite 84txi
-JVC 70fh97
-Toshiba HDA-1
-Dish HD

Originally Posted by kenr769

Tarheel, I'd keep the Promonitors. My room is also very open, limiting where I could mount my surround speakers. I have the BPX's mounted about 12' up on the rear wall. It sounds OK, but before I hung them, I temporarily had them on stands at about 6' off the floor, and they sounded great. I wish I'd have gone with front firing speakers so I could at least aim them down with an adjustable mount like you did.

I don't know much about the HK635, but I found that the "room correction" or "auto calibration" features on some receivers can really help. I have a Rotel RSX1056 receiver without any kind of Auto EQ or room correction. While it was out for repair, I had a Marantz 8500 as a loaner. I ran the auto calibration on the Marantz and noticed a huge difference. The Marantz was so good with movies that I almost kept it, but the Rotel just blows it away when it comes to music.

Hope this helps.

Originally Posted by bakpakva

I am using the bipolar 7001's and bpx surrounds with the HK 635 and I also like the EZSet results with this combination. It is very easy to hear the difference that the room equalization can make by switching it on and off. My room has one side with a wall, and another side is more open so the equalization was very helpful when using the bipolars.

Originally Posted by Neo-Geo

The HD-A1 is slow as Christmas and will drop sound quite often (very finicky with disc reading, even if disc is brand new/flawless). It's still the best option until the Pioneer BD-HD1 is released (or Panasonic DMP1000 if you can't accept 1080p/24hz).

Originally Posted by Neo-Geo

Nice receiver. Wish I went with the 84 instead of the 82 for the 4th HDMI input. You won't need to upgrade your receiver until you want HDMI 1.3.

The HD-A1 is slow as Christmas and will drop sound quite often (very finicky with disc reading, even if disc is brand new/flawless). It's still the best option until the Pioneer BD-HD1 is released (or Panasonic DMP1000 if you can't accept 1080p/24hz).

If you are set on the BP7006's then you should have the C/L/R 2300 center. If you have the room for a larger center, unlike my cabinet, then you should go with the BP7002's and a matching C/L/R 2500.

Originally Posted by droht

Anyone have any experience using PM500s or SM450 or 350s in a 2.0 stereo set up on bookshelf? Specs seem great for this, but I'd love to have some real world feedback. Looks on here like DT is much more popular for surround set ups.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by g_bartman

The 2x would be better suited to the rest of your speakers but the 1 x will do just fine.

Originally Posted by Giz

Thanks for the reply.

After doing some more reading on this site, I hate to say it, but I am more confused. I read a couple posts about matching the drivers of the speakers all the way around.

Under this theory, if I get the 7004's (5.25 drivers), I should get either the CLR2002 or the CLR2500 as the center and the BPX's as rears. The problem with this set up is the size of the BPX's. They are going into the family room and I think my wife will not be too pleased seeing the fairly large BPX's mounted on the wall. I am already concerned about her reaction to the size of the BP1X's (and the cost of this project in general). I know, priorities.

If I get the 7006's (4.5 in. drivers) , I should get the CLR2300 (4.5 in. drivers) and, I guess the BP1X's (which are listed as 12 cm's). It does not appear that DefTech has a rear to match the 4.5 in. driver of the 7006's (??). I recognize that 12 cm's is about 4.5 inches, but if it is the same driver, why would they switch to a metric measurement and have such different descriptions? I like the CLR2300 because of the comments that the center is quite important and that the added sub really helps. But does that choice dictate the 7006's over the 7004's?

As I said, I am confused!

Originally Posted by Adz523

I am probably one of those posters who passionately stresses maching Def Tech driver size "all-around". When it comes to home theater, the real treasure in the Def Tech line are in its Bi-polar surrounds (BPVX/P, BPVX, BPX, BP2X, BP1.2X). A big front soundstage using their towers and then up to 4 matching bi-polar surrounds is the most immersive home theater experience I have ever listened to. If you don't believe, then come by my showroom in the NY Tri-State area and you will likely become a believer (and then reply to this post by all means even if dynamic immersive sound is not for you).

Giz,
The BP1.2Xs are the 4.5" bi-polar surrounds and are timbre matched to the drivers in the 7006s. The website specs are in inches. http://www.definitivetech.com/specs/specs.html I don't know why sometimes you see it in metric cms.

If its in your budget, I would recommend the 7002s which are the larger drivers and are in their Mid-Tweeter-Mid driver configuration ("M-T-M") which will double the soundstage. Then pair that with a CLR2002 and the BPXs (or BP2Xs given your size issue) and you will have one kick-ass surround experience.

Now you should be mounting those BP surrounds high up on the wall so your wife may not care since its not anywhere near eye level. That helps give a sense of spaciouness giving the illusion of extending the front soundstage all around you.

If you live in the NY Tri-State area, let me know and as a custom dealer, I can help you of course.