Definitive Owners Thread - Page 333

so much for takin' a break, eh...!

"internet direct" subs are sold on the internet only...some companies you may want to check out (and are well-respected):

hsu...svs...ed...av123...generally offer good "bang for the buck" products

check the sub forum for more info

anyone know whether def tech is planning on unveiling anything new for this upcoming CES, ive had my eye on the BP7006's for quite a while now and will probably be picking them up here within the next few days, but i would hate to find out they are coming out with something new to replace the 7006's

On my wish list would be a new and improved replacement for the CLR3000.

MikeSp

That should be OK, you just have to keep trying with Audyssey, a lot of trial and error especially with bipolars. I would try manually to get things sounding the best you can at first with respect to tower placement, toe in, center and surround positioning etc. Then try following the step by step suggestions in the Audyssey thread, when it's all said and done you may prefer your manual settings over Audyssey. If the Audyssey is implemented and setup correctly the sound may be flat and not what you are used to, but it should not have a dramatic negative impact.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post14456895

Really? How would you improve it?

new BP30...or similar with 5 1/2s instead.

I hope they come out with an ST center to match the towers.

My wish would be the BP5000, like a bipolar line source array speaker. Just imagine a truly bipolar speaker with four 6 1/2s on each side, if not more... That would be sweet.

And yes, I realize how ridiculous that sounds.

But I would be really intrigued if they could top the Trinity.

four 6 1/2s on each side

top the TRINITY...?

I am a little concerned with them introducing anything. They introduced these at CEDIA

http://www.cepro.com/article/definit...wall_speakers/
and had them on their website, then they pulled them.
http://www.definitivetech.com/PDFs/disappearingPR.pdf

As for centers, I would prefer a center from the Studio line or a true 3-way with say 2, 6.5 woofers, 2, 4.5 woofers and a tweeter.

I guess their site is down, but that 3 way center design would be a beast!

Fronts will be BP30's, Center CLR-2000, Sides BPX's, Rears BP6's or SM350's (not sure if theres enough room behind the couch for the BP6's), Sub SCIII. Will the Denon AVR2309ci be enough to power these in my 13 x 16 townhouse living room? What should I set my speaker levels at?

Also, did I just render me SCIII somewhat useless by getting the BP30's?

Just depends how loud you like to listen to music/movies. From my experience with the 7002s, the Deftech BP's tend to like a lot of juice, even though their sensitivity ratings are relatively high.

If you're a moderate level listening kind of guy, then perhaps it will be just fine.

However, if you want to rock out once in a while and feel the earth move beneath your feet while your windows shudder, you might consider getting an external amp to help power your system (not to mention a more capable sub).

Just run Audyssey from your Denon (if your model has it), and let it calibrate your speaker levels for you relative to your optimum seating position.

Once done, put in a cd and turn it up to your accustomed listening level. If it sounds great to you, then no worries, you're fine. Otherwise, look to getting a more capable amp or receiver with more power.


No. The SCIII will still help out your low end. The burden of reproducing the bass may be eased slightly due to the addition of your BP30's. More bass never hurts, when handled correctly.

Best way to test is to listen to your system with a bass-heavy CD track with the SCIII volume set to 0.

Then slowly turn up the volume of the SCIII and listen for a difference.

If you had to turn the volume all the way up without hearing a difference (and assuming you have everything connected properly and there is a signal sent to the SCIII), then possibly your SCIII is not improving your system.

However, I doubt that you'll find this to be the case.

Good luck.

Man, those BP6Bs haven't even collected dust yet and you're considering upgrade. The SC3 should continue to do a fair job with the .1 channel, but if you did move up to the 6.5" drivers... its' future would be in jeopardy. You're probably going to end up with a second setup by way of upgrade .

Not that I needed them but after reading all the praise lauded on the BP30's, I told myself I couldn't pass up the opportunity to get my hands on them if they came up again on ebay and what do you know...

BP30 mains with CLR2000 center is the makings of a killer setup. Your BPXs should suffice for the sides and either the BP6B, BP2X or SM350 would cover the rear, so you're probably looking at an upgrade to the sub or a pre/pro next. Weren't you using a Denon AVR? How many watts per channel?

avr2309ci 100 watts x 7

Nice receiver. That should drive the Def Techs satisfactorily and could even make a good pre/pro down the road should you decide to add amps. A quality sub woofer, however, can have a huge impact to a home theater. A stand alone sub can take a whole system itself to another level. When the LFE channel is produced the way it was intended (thru a stand-alone-sub), the whole sound stage comes alive. While the sub is slamming the lows, the other speakers are freed up to do a better job with blending the upper bass freqs and carrying the mids and highs. It makes all the speakers better. I guess what I'm saying is that if you were wondering what a good upgrade would be next... I would suggest a high quality sub woofer.

hi def tech owners..

I am new.. and I am trying to evaluate between def tech mythos four + 3 as center + gem as surround..

compare to

paradigm millenia 200 front, with 20s as LCR

anyone has any comments/?

thanks

Whats the difference between the new BP 10 and the old ones? Say like 4 yrs ago?

The BP10B is the celebrated bipolar tower that put Definitive Technology on the map. There are no changes to the original design and remains one of the finest loud speakers in its' class.

The BP10b uses the newer titanium tweeter, as found in the BP700x series and newer CLR speakers. The original BP10 tweeter was a different material, but exactly what escapes me at the moment.

I was just wondering if I should buy the BP 10 used.

If you're already using a CLR speaker for the center (like a CLR2000/2002/2300/2500/3000), and you want to properly voice-match, make sure that it's a BP10b model. It should say "BP10b" on the bottom of the speaker; if it doesn't have the little "b", then it's the older model.

titanium???

Based on an old review from Stereo Review (by the inimitable Julian Hirsch) for the original BP10's that I found online, it looks like the original BP10 had an aluminum voice-coil and a fabric dome tweeter. The BP10b has a pure aluminum tweeter.

The model BP10, which was changed in the mid 90s may have had a silk dome tweeter. Does that sound right? Schroedk, did you mean aluminum? Have you been looking at another speaker ?

The fabric on the original BP10 tweeter may have been silk; it didn't specify in the review. It did have an aluminum voice-coil, however. The newer BP10b is all aluminum (no fabric on the dome).

I have a pair of the original BP10's from about 10 years ago or more and they still sound really good