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post #61 of 333
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Originally Posted by ericjut
donsev,

... so the connector on the screen itself could be of different dimension (round for example). I've seen this kind of custom cable on DWIN projectors (DVI on one side and small round connector on the other, which is nice for going into walls).

The other thing is that I pretty doubt the box will look exactly like in the picture. There's a coax missing and there are 2 of those big connectors on the box, which only one would be needed.

-eric

All valid points. It just bugs me when engineers default to the easiest/cheapest/fastest to implement solution when there are alternatives that *can* be just as easy and cheap to implement but take a little research or thinking "outside of the box".

And don't get me wrong, I will likely still be ordering the first day they are available. I am just resetting my expectations as more info come in.
post #62 of 333
I'm getting it...where to put the 37"...hmmm:)

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post #63 of 333
one very interesting thing to note is that the 42" has a depth of 3.15" and the 37" has a depth of 4.38".

this is a huge difference when you're talking about mounting it to a wall!

take a look at the large images and compare the 37 and the 42. the 42 does not have the huge bulge on the back.

Very tempting to take the 37 back to Costco and buy the 42 rather than shipping the 37 to Cali for the update and screwing aroudn with that.
post #64 of 333
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Originally Posted by sledge1234
The HDMI on the 37" Sceptre does support 1080p with overscan, same with the HDCP. Same should be true for the 42".

I only hope Sceptre will change/add the number of DVI/HDMI inputs on their media box.
The already available Westinghouse 42" has the following and accepts 1080p on them:

QTY TYPE FORMATS SUPPORTED

1 HDMI-HDCP + L/R Audio 480i/p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p

2 DVI -HDCP + L/R Audio 480i/p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
somewhat conflicting i emailed them 2 days ago this is the response i got
Hello Tom,

Thank you for your inquiry.

The 42 inch has not been released yet, it's still being produced. We are
pushing for a Quarter 1 release of this model. As far as the inputs that
will support 1080p are VGA, DVI or HDMI.

If you have any further questions, please feel free to let us know.
post #65 of 333
Quote:
Originally Posted by danwheeler
Very tempting to take the 37 back to Costco and buy the 42 rather than shipping the 37 to Cali for the update and screwing aroudn with that.
I'm considering doing the same thing and I haven't even received the 37" yet. :)
post #66 of 333
(sigh, here we go again) Please refrain from talking about prices, coupons or even where we can buy this unit, as it's against avsforum's regulations. This thread is ONLY to discuss about the Sceptre 42" unit, its stats, capabilities, features, etc.

Moderator -> Please don't close this thread. Just punish the poster(s) at fault. Thank you.

-eric
post #67 of 333
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericjut
(sigh, here we go again) Please refrain from talking about prices, coupons or even where we can buy this unit, as it's against avsforum's regulations. This thread is ONLY to discuss about the Sceptre 42" unit, its stats, capabilities, features, etc.

Moderator -> Please don't close this thread. Just punish the poster(s) at fault. Thank you.

-eric
No punishment necessary, I've edited the above offending post. My apologies.
post #68 of 333
Quote:
Originally Posted by danwheeler
one very interesting thing to note is that the 42" has a depth of 3.15" and the 37" has a depth of 4.38".

this is a huge difference when you're talking about mounting it to a wall!

take a look at the large images and compare the 37 and the 42. the 42 does not have the huge bulge on the back.

Very tempting to take the 37 back to Costco and buy the 42 rather than shipping the 37 to Cali for the update and screwing aroudn with that.
It's probably thinner because the electronics are in the media box instead of being integrated into the display.

Unfortunately, the 6-foot-long proprietary cables mostly destroy the ability to mount the TV on the wall with the cables inside the wall.
post #69 of 333
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Originally Posted by Brian_R170
It's probably thinner because the electronics are in the media box instead of being integrated into the display.

Unfortunately, the 6-foot-long proprietary cables mostly destroy the ability to mount the TV on the wall with the cables inside the wall.
why is that? i would plan on routing the proprietary cable inside my wall? maybe it's not to code, but i'm sure it's fine.
post #70 of 333
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Originally Posted by mixtapem
somewhat conflicting i emailed them 2 days ago this is the response i got
Hello Tom,

Thank you for your inquiry.

The 42 inch has not been released yet, it's still being produced. We are
pushing for a Quarter 1 release of this model. As far as the inputs that
will support 1080p are VGA, DVI or HDMI.

If you have any further questions, please feel free to let us know.

This is in line with what the 37" can do and what the media box pictures show as ports. One VGA port and one HDMI/DIVI port and all accept 1080hp.
I only expressed that the Westinghouse 42" comes with a lot more digital ports and was hoping that Sceptre will change their new 42" in that area before release.
post #71 of 333
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Originally Posted by danwheeler
why is that? i would plan on routing the proprietary cable inside my wall? maybe it's not to code, but i'm sure it's fine.
Building code isn't the issue. Six feet is just too short for my installation. I need to allow for the following

- Cable inside the wall (38")
- Cable from the wall to the display (the minium is probably 12", but could easily be 24" or more depending on the location and orientation of the connectors on the back of the display)
- Cable from the wall to the media box (18" if I locate it as close as practical to the hole in the wall)
- Some slack so I can pull either the box or the credenza out and plug the cables into the back of of the box (about 18").

So 8 feet is the minimum to be safe, 7 feet might work depending on the connector orientation/location, and 6 feet just isn't going to cut it.
post #72 of 333
who makes sceptre's LCD panels?

how do the black levels compare to say sharp?
post #73 of 333
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian_R170
Building code isn't the issue. Six feet is just too short for my installation. I need to allow for the following

- Cable inside the wall (38")
- Cable from the wall to the display (the minium is probably 12", but could easily be 24" or more depending on the location and orientation of the connectors on the back of the display)
- Cable from the wall to the media box (18" if I locate it as close as practical to the hole in the wall)
- Some slack so I can pull either the box or the credenza out and plug the cables into the back of of the box (about 18").

So 8 feet is the minimum to be safe, 7 feet might work depending on the connector orientation/location, and 6 feet just isn't going to cut it.
good point... idiots.

actually i think i could make it work in my specific installation but yeah, the length is a little short for many situation especially having enough slack to pull things away for maintenance.
post #74 of 333
IMHO, I'm not sure why there's such a big fuss about the cable not being long enough on this unit.

I think for most people 6' might not be so bad... and if you want more, just find a custom cable store near you for them to make you one at your desired size. It won't cost all that much (I bet they'll be able to retrofit the 6' into a 12' for less than $50) and you'll have exactly the length that you want.

I would much rather Sceptre to focus on fixing all the bugs that plagued the 37" model and/or ensure that we get features we didn't get on the last model, like the SPDIF out, discreet codes for inputs on the remote or even QAM/CC support.

Having the break-out box is nice, but IMHO is not the most important feature...

-eric
post #75 of 333
Can one of you direct me to a list (or if you could quickly type one up) of these "known" problems that "plagued" the 37" Sceptre? My friend is thinking of getting this display, and I'd like to know what all these problems are that need fixing so badly! :^)
Thanks,
post #76 of 333
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Originally Posted by Kieran
Can one of you direct me to a list (or if you could quickly type one up) of these "known" problems that "plagued" the 37" Sceptre? My friend is thinking of getting this display, and I'd like to know what all these problems are that need fixing so badly! :^)
Thanks,
Long story: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=573173

Short story: Looks like a lot of the problems were fixed in the last firmware update, the worst being the judder problem for the v2. So the 37" might not be a bad buy now. But all the 37" v1 and v2 problems weren't found by their QA department before shipping, which means that the 42" *might* have issues too, since it's a v1. Hopefully, they'll ship the 42" with all the fixes the latest 37" firmware had.

-eric
post #77 of 333
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Originally Posted by sirbrillo
who makes sceptre's LCD panels?

how do the black levels compare to say sharp?
I don't think Sceptre sources panels from just one supplier. On their website they tout CMO (Chi Mei Optoelectronics) but the 37" has an AUO (Acer Unipac Optoelectronics) panel, so it's safe to say at this point it is uncertain who will make the panel in the 42".

I have the 37". Everything about it is "decent." The most exemplary thing about it, by far, is the cost/performance and the fact that it is a true 1920x1080 pixel panel. Other than resolution, I doubt it has class leading performance in other categories. But as I said, decent, and terrific for the price.
post #78 of 333
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Originally Posted by sirbrillo
how do the black levels compare to say sharp?
I had the 37inch v1 for a while but had too much trouble with the audio portion and returned it. Lived with a 37 inch Sharp for the past few months. Black leve on the Sharp is better, imo, but neither get's near plasma in that regard. If black level is really important for you (watching in a dark room) then LCD might not be the right thing...
post #79 of 333
You can now preview the details of the set on the store's site. It looks they will indeed be charging the "white glove" shipping. They list it as the X42GV-NAGA, which corresponds with the all-black model.
post #80 of 333
Your post is probably going to be deleted soon, but thanks for the heads-up YNOS. I checked this morning and the info on the X42SV-Naga wasn't on the website of "the store that must not be named." Interesting that they don't even mention the existance of the media box. I'd definitely buy it if not for the media box and the 6-foot proprietary cable.

Maybe it'll be like the 37" where the specs/looks get updated in the last few weeks before shipments begin. Hope they dump the box.
post #81 of 333
The picture does not match the one on the Sceptre site. This all black model has a silver stand. That has to be a mistake. And the silver line that runs along the front of the tv on the Sceptre site is not there. I'm sure these pictures will be updated. White glove service, ouch!
post #82 of 333
bummer..i was hoping this was an "in-store" item....

Quote:
Originally Posted by YNOS
You can now preview the details of the set on the . It looks they will indeed be charging the "white glove" shipping. They list it as the X42GV-NAGA, which corresponds with the all-black model.
post #83 of 333
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Originally Posted by redgtconv
The picture does not match the one on the Sceptre site. This all black model has a silver stand. That has to be a mistake. And the silver line that runs along the front of the tv on the Sceptre site is not there. I'm sure these pictures will be updated. White glove service, ouch!
My guess is the picture on the store's site will look more like (or exactly like) the real thing because it's a newer photo and I don't think the store would want to misrepresent the item by showing a photo of an early prototype. On a related note, it is interesting that the media box isn't mentioned on the store's site. That would be a pretty major change from what the manufacturer's site is saying. If the box is now integrated into the display cabinet, wouldn't the manufacturer want to update their page promptly?
post #84 of 333
I see no mention of the media box!

Quote:
Originally Posted by YNOS
You can now preview the details of the set on the store's site. It looks they will indeed be charging the "white glove" shipping. They list it as the X42GV-NAGA, which corresponds with the all-black model.
post #85 of 333
Hmmm... something not right here. I compare closely between one in manufacture site and in "the store" and see some major differences (at leat to me):

1. The stand's color is silver in "The Store"'s, but black in Manufacture's

2. In "The Store"'s, the buttons show in silver and located in front panel on the right hand-side, while they're all black and located on the right side on Manufacture's.

3. The speakers' shape is flat in "The Store"'s, but kind of curve shape from the manufacture's.

Looking at the model numbers, they look the same though.

What's the h*ll is going on here ????

Just my 2 cents,

Govee
post #86 of 333
Personally, I kind of like the picture shown in "The Store" better. Anyway, I'm sending an email to the Manufacture and ask them about why such differences between the two's.

Will update you all with their feedbacks.

Govee
post #87 of 333
I sent a mail to the "store" customer service about the confusion about model number. In the top it says "X42SV-NAGA", but in the bottom of the page it says "Model X42GV-NAGA". The difference between "SV" and "GV". Which one is correct?

Have not received any reply yet. Will update you as soon as I get a reply.
post #88 of 333
I wouldn't make any assumptions yet on the appearance of the set in either the manufacturer's or the retailer's web sites. We went through the same thing with the 37" unit (although, I think they got the 30" unit right the first time IIRC).

Also, there were to be two units available from Sceptre, an all black and one with silver appointments. It is unclear which one is to be available first from the retailer.
post #89 of 333
Hi,

I am thinking about getting this LCD TV instead of the new Sony 46" because of cost and features. Does anyone know where we can download a manul to check out all the feature and sutff?

I look thru Sceptre website and did some search on the web with Google and Yahoo and I can't find any manul for it yet. Maybe they have not make any yet.

Master-Q
post #90 of 333
The store's site now includes a photo of the media box. Damn, I was hoping Sceptre figured out a way to get rid of that thing.

I now see what pikoo said about both model numbers being listed on the store's site. Maybe there will be a choice of colors.
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