Originally Posted by Ken Ross
You are correct. In fact a recent article by Peter Putnam showed research that proved for a typical 50" display at typical viewing distances, 1080p would get you nowhere. Should I repeat that? You will get NO additional benefit with full-rez 1080p from a 50" display at 8' and beyond. Naturally if you increase screen size significantly or shorten your viewing distance significantly (how many people will really want to sit on top of a large screen?), then you will see added benefit.
I've been saying this for quite some time, but it's fallen on deaf ears and I've even been attacked as 'anti-technology'. Anybody that knows me gets hysterical at that thought.
I'm simply trying to spread some realism and temper expectations.
I'd like to add in here. I enjoyed viewing as much of the video display options as I could during my few days at CES this year and spent a great deal of time talking to the various manufacturers etc.
While in theory( and in practice!) limits of human vision make differences in contrast more discernible than resolution as we move farther away from the screen, the 1080 P 50 inch Panasonic had on display gave both myself and many others quite the pause as it sat next to and surrounded by the 65 inch Panny 1080P commercial displays as well as the prototype 103 inch 1080P Plasma. And in fact it was receiving a different content feed and was bright too. I got all that. But make no mistake, it is a drastic improvement over the current 50 Inch HD Panny. Its not even close! BTW- screen door was only minimally eveident to me at about 4 feet!!!
SO I Asked some more questions- apparently Panasonic had to change its pixel structure to get enough pixels on the display. So just as Pioneer changed their pixel depth and color filter application with a changed visual result which has been written about and acknowledged on this forum, there is no real reason that a simailar change in concept ( taking liberty with the term 'similar') wouldnt give a different result. The set sells in Japan BTW although I coulnt get the price in YENs out of the Panny guys.
Beyond that, if one was to buy a display now, despite the dissappointment in the BS- pseudo HD ghost that cable/satellite providers provide, why would one buy second place given the pricing may not be all that different from current 720P options?
Moreover, I am a movie guy; I wouldnt insult my HT set up with cable etc; many of us separate normal TV from our HTs, but many don't. SO that content available disappointment to me isn't a factor if I were a decided new buyer. Maybe I buy a 40 inch 1080P LCD , or a 50 inch 1080P Plasma. But not a 720P LCD for instance.
Lets talk HDMI spec- yes I am one of those that see this as a real mess and still use good ole component cabling. However, it seems that a plug type change isn't on the horizon from what I heard. I was thinking there might be. SO the changes from 1.0 to 1.1 to 1.2 ( I am not familair with an existing 1.3 what is that?) will be via the connection cable you buy at the store, seemingly backward compatible. However, I can see where problems are obvious in firmware updates and hadnshakes with other chained gear. No surpirse. That issue is separate from content disappointment. And it wont go away for a long time.
In short, I dont quite share the sit on the sidelines if you want to purchase a new 1080P display that Ken and Mark posted on. But the reason is that I think people should buy the best hardware ( if reasonably priced relative to options) if they have already decided to purchase. However, its obvious that the industry at each chain point is moving at different speeds. No surprise at all.
AS far as pricing, if a consumer 65 inch is 9000, and the commercial is going to be less expensive, I guess that 50 inch 1080P consumer may come in at 4500-5000. It's a guess!!