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post #1621 of 3714
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Originally Posted by thor44 View Post

On 340s I believe Ascends recommends 2 feet.

I haven't seen that recommended anywhere by Ascend.
post #1622 of 3714
I just placed my first order with Ascend and, as many have already stated, they were a pleasure to work with. David answered numerous questions by email and was very helpful.

I ordered 340 fronts/center and 170 surrounds for a 5.1 system that will go in a 17 x 24 dedicated home theater. I'm planning on a Hsu VTF-3 MK3 for the sub.

Any suggestions on amp/receiver to drive these? I'd like to keep it in the sub-750$ range. David suggested the Harman Kardon AVR-645 which seems to get pretty good props for audio but has been ripped for problems with HDMI issues over on the receiver forum.

Thanks in advance.
post #1623 of 3714
Ask him how much for the HK, they do have this on their website


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post #1624 of 3714
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Originally Posted by TheNew007 View Post

anybody know how far away from the wall should ascends be placed?

hey guys i'm still interested in the answer of this question so if anybody knows then can you please tell me? thanks
post #1625 of 3714
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Originally Posted by TheNew007 View Post

hey guys i'm still interested in the answer of this question so if anybody knows then can you please tell me? thanks

There is no set answer other than the minimum of a few inches.

If you have something unique to your situation, let us know, or email/call Ascend.
post #1626 of 3714
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Originally Posted by thor44 View Post

On 340s I believe Ascends recommends 2 feet. That's about where I have mine.

Page 5, first column.

http://www.affordableaudio.org/aa2007-04.pdf

The April issue that you linked Curtis. Reviewer says he took the 2 ft recommendation right out of the manual.
post #1627 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Russdawg View Post

Page 5, first column.

http://www.affordableaudio.org/aa2007-04.pdf

The April issue that you linked Curtis. Reviewer says he took the 2 ft recommendation right out of the manual.

Thanks Russ...but seriously, I don't recall the 2' recommendation, but I do remember the 10' and 7.3' guideline......actually, the manual mentions ratios and not actual feet.

I just have my 170 manual, so maybe it has changed. Anyways, for New007, a call to Ascend should set you straight.
post #1628 of 3714
I have posted this under separate thread.

Currently I have Yamaha RX-V620 Receiver and I am thinking of buying Ascend Acoustics Speakers CM-T340SE as main and center, CT-340SE or CBM-170 SE or HTM-200( can not decide) as rear.I slready have a sub. My room size is about 25x15 with 9 foot sealing's. I am planning to use this set up mostly for watching the movies.

What do you think? Does anyone have this set up? Or may be there are other speakers that can be recommended around $1,000 or so. Thanks in advance.
post #1629 of 3714
What sub you have currently ?
post #1630 of 3714
I don't know how similar my AVR is to yours, but I have a Yamaha RX-V659 with 340s across the front and a pair of 170s in the rear with a HSU VTF-1 sub. I purchased the setup a few months ago and I'm very pleased with this setup. My room is only about 3/4s the size of yours, but to be honest, I think the 170s are a bit overkill for surrounds if you're only going to use the setup for movies/TV. However, if you're also into multi-channel audio or like listening to your music in multi-channel stereo, I'd pay the extra cost for the 170s over the 200s.
post #1631 of 3714
Does anyone have 5 - 340se all around ?

I'd think that would be the best setup, matching speakers all around and a single xover then have the required subs to go along.

Regards,
Jose
post #1632 of 3714
i've got three 340's across the front and four 170's for rears and surrounds ... movies, dvd-a, and sacd all sound fantastic


post #1633 of 3714
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Originally Posted by g20force View Post

I have posted this under separate thread.

Currently I have Yamaha RX-V620 Receiver and I am thinking of buying Ascend Acoustics Speakers CM-T340SE as main and center, CT-340SE or CBM-170 SE or HTM-200( can not decide) as rear.I slready have a sub. My room size is about 25x15 with 9 foot sealing's. I am planning to use this set up mostly for watching the movies.

What do you think? Does anyone have this set up? Or may be there are other speakers that can be recommended around $1,000 or so. Thanks in advance.

We have a a H/K DPR2005 with CM-T340SE as main and center, and HTM-200's as surrounds and rears with a HSU VTF-2 MK 2 sub, and this set-up is very powerful. I would highly recommend it. I was willing to get CBM-170's, but after speaking to Ascend, they convinced me that the 200's were going to give me enough, and they sure do. Whatever combination you decide to get, you won't be disappointed.
post #1634 of 3714
Does any one owner in here have the 340's in white? I can't find a pic of the white 340 to save my life?
post #1635 of 3714
Hi dallas27,

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Originally Posted by dallas27 View Post

Does any one owner in here have the 340's in white? I can't find a pic of the white 340 to save my life?

Unfortunately, we don't have any pics of 340 SE in white. Blame it on my own laziness and rather embarrassing photography skills. We recently completed a full 5 speaker "white" 340SE system for a customer and they looked wonderful. (I should have taken pictures )

I am not sure if this customer is a member of AVS forum or even our own forum. You might consider making a post on our forum requesting pictures from him or perhaps he is reading this thread and will respond.

James at our office handles the custom finishing and you can reach him at jamesg@ascendacoustics.com.

Please don't hesitate to contact me directly if I can be of any assistance.
post #1636 of 3714
Here is a link to some pics of the white Ascends over at home theater talk. They are at the bottom of the thread. The pics aren't the best but it gives an idea. The 340s are wall mounted and I think they look pretty sharp. Maybe he can give you some better pics?
post #1637 of 3714
Acoustic research AR-S112PS thx.
post #1638 of 3714
Has anyone here liked the classic 340's over the SE's?

My old system consisted of 340 classics running from an H/K AVR-430. I really liked the sound. The high end seemed accurate but never brought attention to itself. The mid-range seemed perfect. It had adequate bass for most of the music I listen to.

I sold that system and now I have 340SE's running from a H/K 3480 stereo receiver. I can't really fault the speakers other than the high end seems much more pronounced than on the classics. With many recordings I seem to notice the high end more than anything...including hissing and sybilance present in the source material. While I am hearing things in the recording I never heard I'm not hearing things I used to hear in the midrange from the Classics. I've only been running them a few days but I can't imagine the sound will change drastically with break-in.

Any opinions? Should I expect that soncially the 3480 and AVR-430 should be equivalent for 2 channel? Is there some component in my setup I should change to bring out the best in these speakers? Will the SE's sound warmer as they break in?

THX!
post #1639 of 3714
Did you ever try the SE's with the 430...or the classics with the 3480?
post #1640 of 3714
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Originally Posted by TheTrux View Post

Will the SE's sound warmer as they break in?

I don't think so. I listened to the well-worn SEs at Curtis' place and felt that they were a bit too top-heavy also. However, I have good hearing sensitivity in the high frequencies, so they might be better voiced for the older generations.
post #1641 of 3714
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Originally Posted by chas_w View Post

Did you ever try the SE's with the 430...or the classics with the 3480?

Unfortunately no. I sold the old system a few months ago and just got the SE's and 3480. I do however have a friend that owns the newer version of the 430 and am going to bring the SE's over there to find out if there's any difference in SQ. My gut says no but it's worth a try.
post #1642 of 3714
The difference is the speakers themselves, specifically the new tweeters. It's not the receiver. If you take your speakers to someone else's house, you'll only hear the difference in the room acoustics (the biggest factor in how speakers actually sound besides the speakers themselves).
post #1643 of 3714
I think new tweeters in the SE models extend into the higher frequencies more so than the older models. For instance, if the old tweeters played to 20khz and the new custom Seas tweeter plays to 22khz.....more high frequency extension. If you are sensitive to those frequencies, it may be the problem. That is my guess.

My Parents have the classic 340's, where as I have 340SE's, I do feel the SE's are cleaner in the upper mids and treble.

BTW, my hearing is only good to about 17khz or so.

Lindahl definitely has crazy good hearing...even for his yuong age. Played him some tones on my PC that clearly showed the difference in his hearing and mine.
post #1644 of 3714
Hi TheTrux,

The 340 classics had a 2dB "bump" in the 80-120 Hz range. This would make them sound warmer. However, that bump was a bit unnatural and was removed with the 340 SE, which has a more linear or "flat" response.

Since you are used to listening to a pair of loudspeakers with some emphasis in a particular range, listening to a similar pair of loudspeakers without that emphasis will tend to make the frequency range outside of that emphasis sound more pronounced.

Additionally, the SE tweeter is more revealing with an extended frequency response when compared to the tweeter used in the classics.

I don't think changing the receiver from one HK model to another will make any difference in this regard. My recommendation would be to give them a few weeks. It takes a while to become accustomed to a slightly different sound. Many of our customers have directly A/B'd the SE's with the classics while going through the upgrade process and the vast majority preferred the SE's after a few weeks of side by side auditioning.

Of course, you can be in the minority and that is absolutely OK, but rather than change receivers etc., I would just give them some time

Hope this helps!
post #1645 of 3714
Curtis,

I don't know if I can hear up to 22kHz. I do like a laid back speaker which I considered the 340 Classic to be. Dynaudio and Sonus Faber were two brands I've heard and liked. B&W I don't like because they are too forward. BTW, I thought the Classics were better than the Dynaudio Audience series. I didn't really expect the 340SE's to sound so different than the classics. You guys do seem to be confirming my impression that the new tweeters are more revealing/bright. I hate to say bright because I'm guessing the source material itself is what's bright. I'm definitely going to give them a few more weeks to see if my impression changes.
post #1646 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Ascend View Post

Hi TheTrux,

The 340 classics had a 2dB "bump" in the 80-120 Hz range. This would make them sound warmer. However, that bump was a bit unnatural and was removed with the 340 SE, which has a more linear or "flat" response.

Since you are used to listening to a pair of loudspeakers with some emphasis in a particular range, listening to a similar pair of loudspeakers without that emphasis will tend to make the frequency range outside of that emphasis sound more pronounced.

Additionally, the SE tweeter is more revealing with an extended frequency response when compared to the tweeter used in the classics.

I don't think changing the receiver from one HK model to another will make any difference in this regard. My recommendation would be to give them a few weeks. It takes a while to become accustomed to a slightly different sound. Many of our customers have directly A/B'd the SE's with the classics while going through the upgrade process and the vast majority preferred the SE's after a few weeks of side by side auditioning.

Of course, you can be in the minority and that is absolutely OK, but rather than change receivers etc., I would just give them some time

Hope this helps!

Thanks for the response Dave. I always appreciate your input!
post #1647 of 3714
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Originally Posted by cschang View Post

Lindahl definitely has crazy good hearing...even for his yuong age. Played him some tones on my PC that clearly showed the difference in his hearing and mine.

I recently had a hearing test - my wife is crazy and thinks I have bad hearing (I'm really just passively ignoring her because I'm busy with something - seems this is a common guy thing). Although it only went up to 16khz, it definitely was revealing. My hearing sensitivity was pretty flat until around 6khz or so, and then it started going up! I couldn't believe it, but looking at the graphs, that's what it said. It could have been some test anomaly, but it seems to jive with my listening experiences.
post #1648 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Lindahl View Post

I recently had a hearing test - my wife is crazy and thinks I have bad hearing (I'm really just passively ignoring her because I'm busy with something - seems this is a common guy thing). Although it only went up to 16khz, it definitely was revealing. My hearing sensitivity was pretty flat until around 6khz or so, and then it started going up! I couldn't believe it, but looking at the graphs, that's what it said. It could have been some test anomaly, but it seems to jive with my listening experiences.

yeah...you are a weirdo.
post #1649 of 3714
Just wanted to chime in with my great experience buying Ascend Acoustics and I love how they sound. A big thanks to all the posters on this thread and AVS.
post #1650 of 3714
I should add my name to Ascend owners. I just received my 3 HTM-200's last week and have them set up as L/R and Center. Amazing sound. Now I am stuck with deciding to go with 2 more 200's or to get the 340's. Seems like an easy answer, but money and size play a big part. Oh Well! Decisions, Decisions. Oh yeah, I also need a sub!
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