The Official HP LC2600N/LC3200N/LC3700 thread - Page 35

Hello all,

I've had the LC3200N since April of last year, and so far I'm thrilled with it. Suddenly though there seems to be a problem. The broadcast HD picture from the Portland, OR area has always been very enjoyable. I bought I $19 indoor antenna that has worked perfectly.

All of a sudden, there is no picture. The audio is still there so it still seems to be receieving the expected channels. I'm aware that there is an Audio only option, but that is not turned on. I even turned it on and back off to see if that would help. We watched the Superbowl with no issues, and sometime in the next week we turned the set on and there is no picture. The menu works. Other inputs work such as DVD and Wii. I just messed around with analog air broadcast and that seems to work. I'm betting cable would work if I hooked it up. I've played with any menu option that seems like it would matter to no avail.

Any ideas?

Dan

It's most-likely okay, you may have to trouble-shoot it. I know there is a "re-set" procedure in your manual

Check out this HP link, it has various pages for trouble-shooting:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/p...&lang=en&cc=us
Also, here is the "trouble-shooting" page:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...101999&lang=en

If worse comes to worse contact HP Customer Service, they're actually pretty good (especially during the afternoon/evening hours PST):
(800)474-6836

I've called late week-nights (09:00pm and 01:00am) and I get a tech located in Canada who is very good (I've reached this same tech more than a few times).

So, I've been using the LC3200N with the DVR2080 and it works FLAWLESSLY.

Basically, you can record from any HDTV channel AND change inputs while you record.

I surf the web on "Input5," while I record material on "TV." The LC3200N gives you TOTAL control over the DVR2080. You even power the DVR off from your LC3200N remote.

Crystal clear. Sweet in every aspect .. but two.

(1) You can't schedule recordings since the LC3200N does not pick up OTA channel guide info. Still, being able to hit record and then do something else is very valuable.

(2) You can't watch another HDTV channel while you record a HDTV channel. Since the LC3200N only has one HDTV tuner - and that is paired to the DVR2080 for recording, your alternate viewing activities are limited to:

- watching SD TV,
- playing with your Wii on component, or
- surfing the Web on PC DVI

I don't really watch SDTV anymore (snob), so I find myself wishing the LC3200N had two HDTV tuners... ;-)

that's what's cool with my (older) HP-LC2640N, it has 2 tuners, I can watch two HD sources simultaneously (in split-screen)- I can watch screen 1 (with volume), and screen 2 (with no volume of course). It's wonderful for sports.

The 3200N is going for a good price on buy. I bit and ordered one but now I hear rumors they are refurbs, should I cancel my order or has the price really come down?

Two things I have never read anyone talking about; Very poor viewing angle & the 'Mits' syndrome: 4x3 cropped analog images.

After looking at a friends cheap Poloraid LCD and discovering the extraordinally viewing angle (as wide as any Plasma) all I have to say this is terrible. Contrast falls off terrible if you aren't viewing it head on.I doubt you have more than a 20 degree viewing angle before it becomes noticeable.

The other issue which I noticed right out of the box, any analog material will have the side 'cropped' just as last years Mits DLPs' did. Compare the digital channel to the same analog channel (OTA) you you will see. This also affects any analog material VCRs', video cameras, 4x3 DVDs' (AFAIK).

The flexibility of the tuners and features (removable speakers, 1394 etc.) is what sold me. If I knew this now, I wouldn't of gotten it.

can you schedule a record base on date & time with the dvr2080 since the lc3200 doesn't get the guide?

No scheduling records... NONE. This is straight press and record, press and play, press and pause...

That's why I wouldn't pay more than $150 for it (<$100 is optimal).

But when you figure that the LC3200N will NEVER be able to schedule a multi-channel record to an external DVR since it doesn't have a program guide, pulling the trigger now to get a cheap&dumb DVR makes sense.

The alternative is not very clean ... ReplayTV/Tivo-type device with IR blaster, etc... That, or a new set with program guide.

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Videobruce, what HDTV are you talking about? The LC3200N? I haven't noticed those problems.

I have the 2600.

I think these LCD TV's are very nice actually (for what they are). Picture quality is very good- rich, beautiful color, very clear) . Everyone thinks watching movies and broadcast's (especially HDTV) on my TV is the best they've seen (even though I know there's much better).

When will HP release next-generation of 1090p TV's. Should be soon (next few months)?

One other thing thast I haven't seen mentioned. Those sets have/had a very poor viewing angle. Worse than mos other sets. I never paid attention to this since I knew that was a issue w/ LCDs' in general, but thgis is much worse than others.
It really cought my eye when I saw a el-cheapo Polaroid that had to have the widest viewing angle of any LCD. As good as a Plasma. I had to check it a few times since I couldn't believe my eyes. I then went back to my set and look at it.
Uck................
1090 's??
Are those the replacements for the 1080s'?

sorry, meant to say 1080p

I'm having an issue with my LC3700N and was wondering if anybody could provide me with any assistance.

I bought a TiVo Series 3 and have it hooked up over HDMI. I tried setting it to use "Native" resolution which means it will switch to whatever resolution the broadcast is in (480i/720p/1080i). However, whenever it's on a SD channel that outputs at 480i, the display complains that the signal it is receiving is invalid (sorry, I don't have the exact error handy).

This problem only reproduces over HDMI, not component.

Does HDMI not support 480i on this TV? That seems rather odd that it would support 480i just fine over component, but not HDMI.

Any thoughts, or has anybody else run into this?

Thanks!

I belive this is some type of HDMI handshaking issue...when this occurs, switch to another source and then back to HDMI and see if the 480i feed is now working. Probably better sollution is to set TiVo output to 720P to match panel...

Good Luck...

Well, my receiver always outputs at 480p when I turn on the OSD over HDMI. I tried directly connecting the TiVo to the TV, and 480i would'nt work (unsupported resolution). My PS3 won't let me set 480i when connected over HDMI. The only other device I have that will do HDMI is my DCT-3412 cable box, so I may give that a shot.

I'm thinking that this TV just doesn't support 480i over HDMI, though. Many LCDs don't seem to.

Yes, I could just have the TiVo output 720p, but I'd prefer to watch things in their native resolution and let the TV do the work of scaling.

Teh 42" and 47" models showed up on their website last night...both 1080P models...

I have another 1:1 pixel mapping question again. I installed the latest nVidia driver on a freshly built XP machine, 93.xx(?), and successfully created a 1366x768 custom resolution. However, after I did the sync and dot-by-dot, a tiny bit of screen on both sides was not showing on the LCD panel. I suspect it is not 1:1 pixel mapping. I did a series of "l" test on Notepad. Some of the "l" are fatter than the others. By using ClearType, it is a little better, but still I want to see a crispy clear 1:1 pixel mapping, as I am using the LC2600N as a monitor also. I think the either the driver or the LCD has overscanned the screen a little bit. Anybody here get a crispy clear 1:1 pixel mapping with the latest nVidia driver and LC2600N?

I am looking to buy a video card for my Win XP home machine to connect to the LC2600 I have on order. I'm looking for recommendations on what to buy. Am I looking for a card with a DVI-I connection? Am I looking for a completely digital connection versus a VGA with a DVI adapter? More than 256mb of video memory?

I'm not planning on using my PC as a DVR. But I would like to pay DVDs through my Windows OS.

This is 1:1 pixel mapping. The driver is probably outputting at 1360x768, not 1366x768 (has to output in a multiple of 4). Try 1368x768 instead, this way you'll miss one row of pixels on either end rather than 3 rows of pixels on either end.

Also, make sure when you sync, you're doing this on the test pattern from the nVidia control panel.

I was able to get a nice, crisp picture with fonts by doing this. You may want to sync multiple times with the test pattern to ensure that it's properly synchronized. You'll be able to tell because the black/white dot grid pattern won't look distorted at all.

DVI-D is pure digital, but most cards have DVI-I (DVI-A+DVI-D).

However, as long as you use a DVI-D cable, then your picture will be digital. If you use a DVI-I cable, then it will depend on if your monitor is set for PC Analog or PC Digital.

theficus,

do you mind to take a screen capture of the custom setting window and post it here? I want to compare yours and mine. I did a 1366 and 1360 and 1368, all failed the "l" test in Notepad. I did the syn with the nVidia test pattern. I will sync it a couple more times tonight.

Thanks

guys, i am wondering if its possible to get a digital video signal ( hdmi or dvi) from the 2600/3200n. I would be willing to sacrifice the Svideo & optical outs. Maybe a way to switch the HDMI port to Output or perhaps there is a optional module we can add-on ?

igoeasy; Why do you want this?
AFAIK, NO TV has this feature.

I have both the 2600N and projector in the same room so I would want to get a full 720p resolution to my projector instead of the current 480 svideo connection.

http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp...K&displayTab=S I wondered about the additional modules after finding out that Panasonic offers this for their line of plasmas.

But from the looks of it so far, my only option would probably to get the new Samsung tuner.
http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/09/14...ver-dtb-h260f/

You can get a Component Switcher that has dual output. I have an affordable one from Radio Shack that has 4 Component input and 2 Component output. Every HiDef input shows up on both screens.

How are you getting component video out from the LCD ? connections

Another idea would be to try one of the 1394 ports in the back (Still dont know why there would be two).
I am having a hard time finding a cable or adapter to join to two interfaces (1394 - HDMI )
Anyone know if this is possible ? 1394 handles 400Mbps vs HDMI handles 5Gbps.

nm, I fully read your post

I have a 7800GTOC from Nvidia on one of my XP-MCE PCs with an LG Flatron for a primary and an HP LC3760N as a secondary with the desktop set to dual monitor mode. Connections are made by connecting the LG to the analog out on the vidcard and the LC I connect to the vidcard's DVI out. I run the LG at a desktop rez of 1280x1024 and the LC3760n at 1360x768 dot-to-dot mapping.
Both PCs have ATSC tuners that I installed previously... so DVR services can be readily handled from there without relying on the LC.
The reason my setup is like this is because I have his-and-her PCs on a rather large desk in the den with the 37" HP mounted on the wall above. I toss DVDs played from the machine quite easily onto the LC using Nero's Showtime. The first time I did this I had to drag the video window for Nero onto the larger display and then double-clicked it to engage full screen mode. The application remembered this and now the video window always appears on the larger screen at startup as long as the device is connected. As soon as the mail delivers a longer pair of DVI to HDMI cables to my door I will be connecting both PCs to the Input4 and Input5 HDMI jacks on this rather sweet LC3760. Then I can mix and match as I please, or watch something from OTA or cable.


Happy Hi-Def
--Orv

Thanks to theficus and Orv for the advice. I ended up buying a Radeon 9550. It turns out that my PC power supply is only 200 watts, so I settled for a low end solution. It works great and with the 1366x768 resolution, it is very sharp.

On a sad note my LC2600 video goes out after about 20 minutes of warming up. This happens no matter what input I am using, so I am sure it is video of the set. The video displays random patterns of horizontal lines flashing, like you'd see on an older CRT PC monitor set going bad. If I let it continue the set turns itself off.

This is a refurbished set purchased from HP. I called and they are scheduling a technician from CompUSA to come out next week to fix it. I'm interested to see if the guy shows up with parts or troubleshoots it to a board and then has to order it.

I've only had the set a week. I was thinking of sending it back, but I was afraid they wouldn't have another one in stock (website shows out of stock). So hopefully I'll be able to get this one fixed!