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post #871 of 1101
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Originally Posted by mjcouvi View Post

Ok, this really confuses me. Buy.cm now has the hp lc2640n available at $1,194.99. This tv looks exactly the same as the lc2600n. However its resolution is 1280x768 (rather than the 1366x768 of the lc2600n), it has only a DVI port (no HDMI), and it does NOT have an integrated hd tuner (it's only "hd-ready"). How is it possible that this tv is selling for almost $450 more than the better featured lc2600n?


I think the LC2640N is a generation before the LC2600N. In the current line up (LC3260N and LC3760N), it seems they dropped the 26" version.
post #872 of 1101
Your right. My bad.
Damn model numbers. They did drop the 26" size.
post #873 of 1101
I just got ahold of a RCA AVHD cheap on Ebay and was playing around with it along with my LC2600N.

It amazes me how badly consumer electronic makers are at designing usability. From the manuals I had completely failed to realize that all of the remotes transfer control buttons (FF, REW, PAUSE, PLAY, REC, etc) are completely ignored when using a iLink/Firewire device. Instead you push the iLink button which displays an on screen menu of buttons to push and you must use the arrow keys to highlight the on screen picture of the buttons and then use the select key to press them. They could have at least allowed the remote setup for the DVR button to have an option for iLink device and then allowed the real buttons to do the same thing. This weekend I will be seeing if I can program macros for a learning remote to make these usable.
(BTW it appears even the Sharps with guide did it this horrible way).

Rant number 2: It has always annoyed me that the set doesn't display what is playing when you press the Info button (since that info is in all HD streams). When you use an AVHD it does pass the title of the show and the channel number to the recording title so this proves the TV already has the logic to extract that info from the broadcast stream.

rant 3: I knew this from reading this thread over the months alread but if they bothered to put in iLink at all couldn't they have at least supported the screens for timed record (they could have done that without having guide).

rant 4. If you use this to continuously timeshift it has no capability to loop when it gets full. If timeshifing HD, once every 9 or 18 hours (depending on your capacity) you will need to delete the buffer and start recording again. They have a loop option on play they could have done the same for record.

On the good side the picture is as good as the original and the device is quiet.

Since I got the AVHD cheap I didn't feel I needed lots of value added out of it (especially since I have an HD DirecTivo). But with the usability this bad I may resell it to someone with a set that has better iLink capability.

Any other owners have any tricks to make this more usable?
post #874 of 1101
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rant 3: I knew this from reading this thread over the months alread but if they bothered to put in iLink at all couldn't they have at least supported the screens for timed record (they could have done that without having guide).

That should of been #1.

The only thing you can do is timeshift while you are watching something else. Since you will have a better chance to 'remember' to start a recording if you are in front of the TV. And with TWO ports and the cost of those RCA units, it would of been a 'steal' to get two.

I can't believe they didn't do a timer feature.
post #875 of 1101
Has anyone else had problems with the signal strength fluctuating significantly on the Digital Cable tuner only on the lc2600n?

I have cable tv hooked up to the Analog and Digital Cable tuners with a CableCard, and frequently have significant fluctuations in the signal strength on digital cable channels only. The signal strength meter on the Antenna Setup-Digital will fluctuate from the low 80's down to the 40-50's range, occasionally even dropping to 0. Once the signal drops to the 40's or lower, the picture starts breaking up and the audio starts making a "popping" sound. It does not always do this, sometimes the signal stays steady in the low 80's and there are no problems with the picture/audio. Some channels seem to be more prone to fluctating than others, but I have had it happen on all digital channels (HD and SD). I thought it might be a CableCard issue, but it does the same thing even without the CableCard plugged in and with a different card.

I have not had any problems on analog channels, nor do I have any problems with any other tv's in my house. I've tried moving the tv to a different outlet and still had the same problems. I've also tried hooking a STB up to the tv, and did not have any problems with the signal through the box. My wife really doesn't want a STB hooked up to tv, but I may have to if I can't find a solution for the problem. When I measured the signal level through the STB, it was around 8 - 10dB, so signal strength doesn't seem to be the issue.

Does any have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Brian
post #876 of 1101
The Cable Card shouldn't be a issue.
Check your fittings, try bypassing any splitters and feed the cable directly into this set only, try lightly 'tapping' on the back of the set and see if there is any fluctuation in signal.

Minus having a SLM, you are at the mercy of these less than ideal built in so called 'meters'.
post #877 of 1101
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Originally Posted by mjcouvi View Post

Ok, this really confuses me. Buy.cm now has the hp lc2640n available at $1,194.99. This tv looks exactly the same as the lc2600n. However its resolution is 1280x768 (rather than the 1366x768 of the lc2600n), it has only a DVI port (no HDMI), and it does NOT have an integrated hd tuner (it's only "hd-ready"). How is it possible that this tv is selling for almost $450 more than the better featured lc2600n?

I would just go to JR and buy the lc2600n, but I was attracted to buy.cm because of their "preferred account" that offers the option to pay over 6 months with no interest (I am a poor college student). I don't seem to qualify for the "Bill Me Later" payment option at JR.

Stay away from the LC2640. I dont think its a Sharp panel. Its the older model from HP. Its a 15:9/16:10 set not a 16:9. The CDN BB had them in store (display/demo models) and they looked pretty bad both in PQ (calibration????) and cosmetics of the actual set itself (cheap looking).
post #878 of 1101
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

The Cable Card shouldn't be a issue.
Check your fittings, try bypassing any splitters and feed the cable directly into this set only, try lightly 'tapping' on the back of the set and see if there is any fluctuation in signal.

Minus having a SLM, you are at the mercy of these less than ideal built in so called 'meters'.


Thanks videobruce. I tried your suggestions but I still get the same picture break-up with the cable going directly into the set. It seems like the problems occur more frequently at night than during the day. I watched some of the British Open and MLB yesterday with only the occasional break-up that would last for just a few seconds before being stable again. But last night it was virtually unwatchable because of constant break-up and signal fluctuation.
post #879 of 1101
Have you tried an extrenal antenna for OTA?? Even some form of (heaven forbid) 'rabbit ears'.........
post #880 of 1101
Hey all, I just bought this marvelous tv and im astounded at the options for this tv. I'm new to the hdtv world, and cable tv, as im having the cable guy come over for the 1st time.

I have a toshiba satellite notebook which contains s video and a vga connection. Which of these connections would produce the better image if i were to play a dvd on my laptop and output it to my hp? Are there any other cables? equipment? that should be a mandatory purchase for this tv? Should i buy a seperate dvd player for this tv? Thanks, and sorry for all the newbish questions
post #881 of 1101
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Originally Posted by vesuvius3333 View Post

I have a toshiba satellite notebook which contains s video and a vga connection. Which of these connections would produce the better image if i were to play a dvd on my laptop and output it to my hp? Are there any other cables? equipment? that should be a mandatory purchase for this tv? Should i buy a seperate dvd player for this tv? Thanks, and sorry for all the newbish questions

You can use VGA to DVI-A cable or adapter to connect to the DVI input on the TV. Also you need to connect the sound out from your computer to the audio in next to the DVI port on the TV to get audio. Then set the input to "Input 5" and go to the TV's menu, to "Options"->"Input Select" and set that to "Analog PC". This will give you VGA input through the DVI port on the TV.

Your laptop shouldn't have problems outputing 1280x720. This will be scaled to the native resolution of the TV. The text will be a bit fuzzy, but for viewing pictures and movies, it should be fine.

If your laptop graphics card can do custom resolution (I don't know if any can), go to the TV's menu ->"Setup"->"Input Signal" and set that to "1366x768", set "Aspect" to "Dot to Dot" and then try setting up a custom resolution on the computer to 1360x768 or 1368x768.
post #882 of 1101
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

Have you tried an extrenal antenna for OTA?? Even some form of (heaven forbid) 'rabbit ears'.........

Well I hooked some rabbit ears up to the Digital Air tuner, and there are no problems with OTA digital signal reception. The signal is very steady.

I still can't figure out if this is a signal problem with the cable or if it's a tuner problem with the TV. I don't have any problems on any of my other tv's (2 hooked up to cable boxes, one other tv on a cable card), which makes me think it's a problem with the HP QAM tuner. BUT, the signal fluctuation is pretty consistently worse in the morning before sunrise and at night after sunset. It's pretty good during the afternoon with only minor fluctuation in the signal, which would suggest to me it's a signal problem. Any idea why there would be more problems with the signal at night as opposed to the daytime?
post #883 of 1101
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Originally Posted by rxintx View Post

Has anyone else had problems with the signal strength fluctuating significantly on the Digital Cable tuner only on the lc2600n?

I have cable tv hooked up to the Analog and Digital Cable tuners with a CableCard, and frequently have significant fluctuations in the signal strength on digital cable channels only. The signal strength meter on the Antenna Setup-Digital will fluctuate from the low 80's down to the 40-50's range, occasionally even dropping to 0. Once the signal drops to the 40's or lower, the picture starts breaking up and the audio starts making a "popping" sound. It does not always do this, sometimes the signal stays steady in the low 80's and there are no problems with the picture/audio.
Thanks,
Brian

Hey Brian, I didn't have quite as drastic of a swing as that but I did have low signal strength and channels would drop offline. I traced it to simply poor quality splitter and too many splits. I added a HDTV compatible amplifier, one that will also pass through the signal need to have a cable box return information so that things like PPV and iControl would work. If I add that.

I also replaced my main splitter and the splitter that goes into the two tv inputs with ones that are also HDTV compatible. In other words handle the higher frequencies.

I now have too much signal strength and need to back it off. Whites are too white. Anyone e;lse tell me how to do that and still allow for signals to pass back to my cable operator? Thanks.

I hope this helps,
-Nyle
post #884 of 1101
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Originally Posted by nlandas View Post

Hey Brian, I didn't have quite as drastic of a swing as that but I did have low signal strength and channels would drop offline. I traced it to simply poor quality splitter and too many splits. I added a HDTV compatible amplifier, one that will also pass through the signal need to have a cable box return information so that things like PPV and iControl would work. If I add that.

I also replaced my main splitter and the splitter that goes into the two tv inputs with ones that are also HDTV compatible. In other words handle the higher frequencies.

I now have too much signal strength and need to back it off. Whites are too white. Anyone e;lse tell me how to do that and still allow for signals to pass back to my cable operator? Thanks.

I hope this helps,
-Nyle

Nyle,

I have since taken the opposite approach and added an attenuator to the line feeding the Digital Cable input to weaken the signal. This has helped more than anything else I've tried, although it's still not perfect. So far it seems I have to increase the level of signal attenuation (ie, weaken the signal to the tv) at night versus the day to maintain an acceptable picture. The signal still fluctuates, though not as severely, going from upper 50's to lower 70's.

I've tried different splitters, removing all splitters, adding an amplifier, and none of it made much of a difference.

Brian
post #885 of 1101
Hi,

I recently purchased the LC2600N and am generally pleased with the set. I did have a question regarding the HDMI input though.

I've connected the tv set to my Philips DVP5960 dvd player through the HDMI input. The problem I'm having is that while watching dvd's, I can't change the aspect ratio on the tv. The only option that appears is "stretch," which is fine since the player upcoverts most movies, but some of my older discs end up being stretched out in appearance.

I called HP's tech support, but all they told me was that I couldn't change the aspect ratio for signals going through the HDMI input. Does anyone know if it's possible to set up the tv so that I can change the aspect ratio?

I'd appreciate any help as I'm not very tech saavy, so thanks in advance.
post #886 of 1101
Anybody using LC2600N here have success to get 1:1 pixel mapping with the new nVidia driver 91.31?

I can't make it work. The last driver version that work for me is 84.21, which I can get 1368x768.

nVidia completely change the control panel on 91.31, which is different than earlier version. I assume the future drivers will have this new contrl panel, and I am worry I will get stuck with the 84.21 if I can't make the new driver work with LC2600N.

Kupakai, any luck?

Thanks
post #887 of 1101
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Originally Posted by cdcooker View Post

Anybody using LC2600N here have success to get 1:1 pixel mapping with the new nVidia driver 91.31?

I can't make it work. The last driver version that work for me is 84.21, which I can get 1368x768.

nVidia completely change the control panel on 91.31, which is different than earlier version. I assume the future drivers will have this new contrl panel, and I am worry I will get stuck with the 84.21 if I can't make the new driver work with LC2600N.

Kupakai, any luck?

Thanks

Hi, I got 91.31 and able to got 1:1 worked. How? I follow the instructions posted here.
post #888 of 1101
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Originally Posted by cdcooker View Post

Anybody using LC2600N here have success to get 1:1 pixel mapping with the new nVidia driver 91.31?

I can't make it work. The last driver version that work for me is 84.21, which I can get 1368x768.

nVidia completely change the control panel on 91.31, which is different than earlier version. I assume the future drivers will have this new contrl panel, and I am worry I will get stuck with the 84.21 if I can't make the new driver work with LC2600N.

Kupakai, any luck?

Thanks

Hi, I got 91.31 and able to got 1:1 worked. How? I followed the instructions posted here.
post #889 of 1101
You meant there is a post in this thread talking about how to do it with the 91.31 driver? I tried to search with "91.31" and no luck.
post #890 of 1101
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Originally Posted by cdcooker View Post

Anybody using LC2600N here have success to get 1:1 pixel mapping with the new nVidia driver 91.31?

I can't make it work. The last driver version that work for me is 84.21, which I can get 1368x768.

nVidia completely change the control panel on 91.31, which is different than earlier version. I assume the future drivers will have this new contrl panel, and I am worry I will get stuck with the 84.21 if I can't make the new driver work with LC2600N.

Kupakai, any luck?

Thanks

I just installed the new driver, and I don't really like the new control panel.
Anyway, it just kept my old settings so I didn't really have to do anything get what I already had (1368x768). However, I tried setting to 1366x768, which I couldn't get for one reason or another, just to play around with it, and it worked.

Did you change the view mode to "Advanced View" from "Standard"? Then you get "Manage custom timings" option under "Display" settings. From there, "Create.." new timing, set the custom resolutions, click on ">>Advanced" then change the "Timing Standard" to "manual" and this is what I have the settings to (from my previous settings).



I don't know if they are exactly correct, but it works. Then do "Auto sync" from the TV.

I hope this works for you.
post #891 of 1101
Kupakai,

Thanks for your quick response. I will try your suggestion tonight. As far as I remember, they old 1368x768 didn't get carry over to the new setting. I think it was because I followed nVidia suggestion to understand the old driver first. After installating the new driver, I went to the Advanced View, and tried to create a new custom resoultion. All I did was change the horizontal pixel to 1368 in each corresponding box. After clicking the test button, I didn't see anything has changed on the screen, no refreshing or anything, and after I clicked the OK button, nothing has been changed, and it was reversed back to the original resolution, and inside the custom resolution box, the new custom resolution was not inside. I have uninstalled the new one and went back to 84.21. Do you think I should upgrade to 91.31 without uninstalling the 84.21 driver?

Thanks
post #892 of 1101
OK, I installed the 91.31 driver on top of the 84.21 driver, and bingo, the previous custom resolution preserves in the new control panel, and I can have perfect pixel mapping with the new driver. I tried 1366, yes it did accept, but I doubt the screen has changed anything at all. It is still 1368.

My concern right now is if I freshly installed the 91.31 without any previous nvidia driver installed, I probably cannot get perfect pxiel mapping on LC2600N.
post #893 of 1101
Im having problems connecting my laptop to the tv. When i try to access input signal in the menu it is grayed out. I have checked all the connections and everything is plugged in. Any help would be much appreciated thanks.

alex
post #894 of 1101
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Originally Posted by cdcooker View Post

OK, I installed the 91.31 driver on top of the 84.21 driver, and bingo, the previous custom resolution preserves in the new control panel, and I can have perfect pixel mapping with the new driver. I tried 1366, yes it did accept, but I doubt the screen has changed anything at all. It is still 1368.

My concern right now is if I freshly installed the 91.31 without any previous nvidia driver installed, I probably cannot get perfect pxiel mapping on LC2600N.

I've been playing around with the new driver a bit, and it seems a little buggy. It sometimes doesn't add new custom timing settings, but it shows up in the screen resolution listings, and sometimes names the custom timing incorrectly. If you can get the setting you want, I wouldn't worry about future fresh install, since they will probably come out with a newer versions by then. I might even just go back to the older driver if I find other problems.
post #895 of 1101
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Originally Posted by vesuvius3333 View Post

Im having problems connecting my laptop to the tv. When i try to access input signal in the menu it is grayed out. I have checked all the connections and everything is plugged in. Any help would be much appreciated thanks.

alex

What kind of connection are you using, HDMI, DVI or VGA. If DVI or VGA (via VGA to DVI-A cable), did you set the setting in the TV's menu under "Options" -> "Input Select" to either "Digital PC" for DVI or "Analog PC" for VGA?
post #896 of 1101
Does anyone know a way to do custom lables for inputs on the HP 3700n? The standard labels are just to limiting...

BR
post #897 of 1101
Not that I know of and welcome to the forums. If you haven't already seen it take a look here;
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=675338
post #898 of 1101
HI,

I was wondering if anybody can tell me what code to use to make my HP LCD work with the Direct TV r15 remote.

Thanks,
post #899 of 1101
spaulin....as HP is new to the TV market, the codes used on these TVs have not really spread in the to the universal remote markets...so that is why you probably don't see a code# listed for HP. It may be possible to program your HP TV remote to control your set-top box or look on the market for a true learning remote that could learn the control signal from your HP TV remote and also control you set-top box. Hope that helps...

I also heard the HPs latest TVs can use some legacy Philips TV codes so that this problem doesn't happen any more...
post #900 of 1101
The OneFor All remotes use 1492 as the code for HP TVs' which has to be loaded from Universal either over the internal coupler (via the phone) or sent back to Universal (for the cheaper units).

spaulin &ChesterTV; Welcome to the forums.
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