Energy Owners Thread - Page 350

Did you call Energy about this problem, might have been a batch run of bad tweeters.

I use Banana plugs because I have 14 sets of speakers that I move around from time to time (most accept Bananas plugs).

awesome

Going to have to order quite a few of the banana plugs.

When plugging them in, i unscrew the "covers" on the speakers/receivers and just put these in? Any place where I can get the shielded type mentioned earlier?

I don't use a shield, just don't turn on your amp/receiver before connecting, the post are not that close together. Most of the time there is a little cap covering the hole on the end of the binding post, I use a pocket knife to pop off.

Just bought the Tx-SR607 for 374 and the energy classic 5.0 + S8.3 sub for 299.98 =D.

I'm pretty sure the wires does not come with either purchase, can you guys recommend me where to buy the wires? and what spec? also, are there wall mounts available (or stands) that will work with these speakers? for cheap?

14 gauge from Monoprice, unless you're running really really long distances (50+ ft) then go with 12ga

That is a good point as well, I should have mentioned that in my last post Some have shorted their amps out so I'm taking the cautious route and using heat shrink to cover the monoprice BP on the speaker ends. Small children and pets can always invite problems

Here are two examples of insulated BP but overpriced. You just can't beat the quality of the monoprice ones.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1174092319345

http://www.amazon.com/Monster-QL-GMT.../dp/B00005U21H

I'm looking to purchase the Take classic 5.1 and switching out the sub. I will be watching about 85% movies with this. I hear they are so so for movies, ....Should I still go with them?

i have 4 c-100's that im lookin to mount on the wall and i would like to know what the minimum distance they can be away from the wall so i can leave the ports open?

Just wanted to say that due to this thread I have purchased the Take Classic 5.1 set and a C-300/CC-100/C-R100 set without ever hearing an Energy speaker in my life. So far I have the Take Classic set up and running on a Denon 1609 and can say I have no regrets, I hope to have the C-series running next week on a temporary receiver until I find a good deal on a Denon 1909. Thanks for the good advice everyone in here.

actually they are probably better for movies than with music; the "hole" in the frequency response inherent to sub/sat setups is more obvious with music. The limiting factor will be how big your room is, and what your expectations are in terms of volume level / sound quality.

if you want to switch out the sub, you can bundle with the larger S10.3 sub for $399 shipped from Vann's:
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...nergy-take-5-0

I too am looking to buy a pair of Energy RC-10s and the RC-LCR as a center.

Vanns.com has them for $300 listed as "coming soon"
-- called & it looks like as much as 6 WEEKS
-- yikes, I don't have that much patience.

And, the only deal I've found on the RC-LCR is on eBay...


Where can I get 'em for the same $$, but immediately?
I do mean immediately!

you can't, sorry. Vann's must have just run out of stock on the cherry RC-10's, the reason was the great price!! nowhere else has the cherry RC-10's for that kind of price.

a pair of cherry RC-10's just completed on ebay with no sale, the guy wanted $350 shipped for the pair. you could conact him and see if he would sell them to you.

a little more money, but you could get three cherry RC-LCR's and use them all in a L/C/R configuration. RC-LCR's are about $325 each shipped at Vann's so it would be a hair under a grand for the three speakers shipped, and it would outperform the RC-10 + RC-LCR setup. Plus, at least you get the desired immediacy!

Thx, batpig.
Have been watching the eBay deals for sure.



The RC-10s in cherry is my 1st choice, but black would be OK too.
Are they available in rosewood too?
As long as the center matches both timbre & finish.

Some ppl like the RC-mini also.
Is it true that it's actually more efficient that the RC-LCR?

Really gotta keep the $$ down; 1k is too much for the wife!!
Honestly, I'm hoping to not spend over $550 delivered for the three speakers.


Are any of the other online Energy vendors like
acousticsounddesign.com or homeaudiowebsite.com or homespeakersdirect.com
OK to deal with?

yes sir, just the deals have been on cherry's lately


the RC's all do, same tweeter and woofer design in all the speakers. the best timbre match though would be three identical speakers


the RC-mini was much louder in my system, to get the volumes balanced the RC-LCR had to be raised several dB higher... so, yes, it's probably true. but the RC-LCR is much fuller sounding, much more bass.


understood.. $550 will be tough for RC-10 + RC-LCR, you will probably have to go with an RC-mini center unless you can push the budget to $650 (based on recent Vann's prices).

unfortunately, with the RC-10's out of stock in cherry at Vann's there are currently no good deals out there on RC-10 at all.

here's a couple of options:

1. get two cherry RC-LCR's and just go with a stereo setup for the time being... later on, when you have a little more saved up just snag a third one to match. Vann's currently has one open box RC-LCR for $292 in cherry, so call them up and grab that one + a new one for $325 shipped and you are just over $600 shipped for a sweet stereo setup (you could even call Vann's and see if you can sweet talk them into making a deal for the two-speaker package since you will be taking the open box one off their hands).
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search

2. this would probably make the wife happy since it would be a smaller setup, but requires a subwoofer (you didn't mention if you have one already?).... get three matching RC-Mini speakers for L/C/R, you can get three RC-mini bookshelves in cherry for $340 shipped at Vann's:
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search

that would save you some cash, and, like I said, make the wife pretty happy. if you don't have a sub yet you could add a Mirage Prestige S8 for $250 (WWstereo) or a Prestige S10 for $350 (Vann's) bringing the total package to $590 or $690, respectively. all the speakers would match tonally and aesthetically, and it would be a lot of performance for the size/dollar.


Just verify that they are authorized -- Klipsch owns Energy so any authorized Klipsch dealer is an authorized Energy dealer. I know acousticsounddesign / sounddistributors (twin storefronts for the same company) are authorized, but I would be wary of the others unless you can verify their status and track record.

Generally though, to be totally safe you can stick to the "big three" of Audio Advisor, WWStereo, and Vann's as they are not only authorized dealers but also have sterling reputations for awesome customer service.

Didn't want to deal with the Buy.com shipping issues so I placed an order through Audio Advisor today, total was 159.99 for the C-C100. Then I read today that they were price matching the Buy.com deal so I called and spoke to Joe and he was awesome! Told me he would take care of it and send me an email tomorrow.

Awesome!

I got the C-C100 from them earlier this week along with C-500 + C-R100, am damn happy. And I didnt even hear energy's before I bought them

I think I just need a little more bass. might have to go thru the settings or replace my sub (yamaha ysw-215 or so).

You present really interesting ideas... Thank you, Sir!

What about using the RC-Mini bookshelves as LR mains along w/ the RC-mini-center as [obviously] the center? Isn't that a "better" center?

What do you think..
the RC-10 pair along w/ [either] the rc-mini center or rc-lcr center
will sound better than
the RC-mini pair along w/ [either] the rc-mini center or rc-lcr center?


Yup, I do already have other speakers...

Additional components:
~14 yr. old 2-way Boston Acoustics w/ 10" woofers -- blown!
Energy center speaker: eXL-C -- ready to be replaced -- not the best energy center...

Energy surrounds: Take5.2 pair -- keeper!
Energy sub: s8.3 -- keeper!
Harmony One Universal Remote
Dish Network VIP-722 Sat Receiver
PS3 as my Blu-Ray Player
Mitsubishi WD-52631 1080p display

If you have the money and want something better than the RC-10 these are very nice Jamo C 607, I have both the RC-10's and the C 607's, the RC-10's are in the bedroom now and the C 607's are running main duty right now.

Ok, now that I'm in front of the TV & the receiver. I need a little help fine tuning it.

These are the current settings that audyssey generated. I'm missing a little bit of depth when watching movies. Could any of these be moved around ? This does sound awesome though when I'm listening to Tiesto Live at Copenhagen

Subwoofer = Yes
Front = Full Band
Center = 40Hz
Surround 60Hz
Front high 70Hz (i'm going to be removing these)
Surr Back - None
LPF of LFE = 100Hz
Double Bass = On

What i'm feeling is that the front's are giving out enough bass that when I have good bass tracks on, and hover my hand near the port of the sub, i don't feel its giving out much output.

Would you guys need any other details to help? If so, please let me know

well, yes, the RC-10's of course would be better. but the point is that you want to get speakers immediately and there are no RC-10's in stock anywhere in rosenut or cherry.


sure, it would work, but don't assume that dedicated center channels are actually "better" speakers. The only thing they are better at is being horizontal so they can fit under a TV screen!! If you have room for a vertical RC-mini bookshelf as a center channel, it will actually sound better as you will have a perfect timbre match across the front three.

horizontal center channels are a sonic compromise in order to fit the speaker in people's homes; if you do some research on the topic you will find that having identical speakers up front (including a vertical center channel) is the "ideal" configuration by all accounts. Of course, most of us don't have room for the "ideal" configuration, so you do the best you can

the RC mini center will of course blend fine with the RC mini bookshelves.... it just won't be a PERFECT match like having three identical speakers would. But if you need a horizontal center channel don't hesitate to go with the RC-mini center. You could also (if they were in stock at a reasonable price) go with THREE RC-mini centers and use them in an L/C/R configuration as well.

Since you have the S8.3 you would be fine either way, cross everything over at 100 or 110 and you are good to go.

Obviously, if you are willing to wait and snag a deal, RC-10's would be better. But for immediate gratification, at the ridiculous price of $113 shipped each it's pretty hard to beat the cherry RC-mini's. Since you have the sub / surrounds you can come in $200 below budget... make sure to tell that to the wife and she will be very impressed

Later on, you can always move the RC-minis to surrounds if you find a good deal on RC-10's for the front, and then sell the Take 5.2's. OR move them to the back for 7.1

I would raise up the crossovers. Try it this way:

Fronts = 60Hz
Center = 80Hz
Surround = 80Hz

turn double bass OFF (it it's still an option once fronts are take off 'full band', it may just turn off automatically).

What model receiver and sub do you have again?

Thanks, Will try it out. Watching pineapple express, so may not be the best test

It will turn full band off once I switch to a freq. The receiver is an onkyo 607 & the sub is a yamaha yst-215
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-YST-SW2.../dp/B0000W59F4

Its an older sub.

well, your complaints were about the bass and of course that movie is more known for the "highs"

a sub upgrade could be in the future if you find that you are missing "depth" as you describe even after tweaking. it's possible the sub can't keep up with the quality of those C-500's.

some other things to try include making sure Dynamic EQ is on, and Dynamic Volume is OFF (as this can compress the sound) or at least at the "Day" setting. Also play with the subwoofer channel level volume, auto setup programs will often miscalibrate the sub level by a bit and you may have to tweak to taste. also make sure that your DVD player has no "Dynamic Range Compression", "Dialogue Lift", or other settings enabled that could mess with the sound quality. Generally, you want to turn all that crap off in the player and get the "unadulterated" audio to the receiver, and let the receiver handle all the processing / tweaking.

Ok so I can get the normally $350 s10.3 for $200? I'm actually now looking at the c-100s or 200s that are not bundled with the sub. Are there any better deals on that sub?

where did you get the classics + s8.3 for $299?!?! Info please!!

Where did you get the classics + s8.3 for 299?!?? Info please!

at vann's check the quote above your post. but it's 399

i just checked, it's still 299.

you go search take classic and pick the 5.0 system without the sub. then there is a combo selection on the right side of the page that lets you get 5.0 + S8.3 for 299.

cheers.

If it's something you will have for years a few weeks ain't long to wait.