Energy Owners Thread - Page 448

My Orb 8" sub did an extremely good job, until I got RC-70s and started pushing the system harder for movies. At that point, the Orb just couldn't keep up with the extra volume at near reference levels. I've since moved to an AV123 MFW-15, and (now that my bad amp is replaced), I have no bottoming out as I did with the Orb.

this could actually be part of the problem -- your Onkyo 607 (like any Dynamic EQ equipped receiver) actually calibrates the volume dial so that Dynamic EQ knows how much correction to apply relative to "reference" movie volumes.

If you bumped up the speaker volumes by a uniform amount (e.g. +5dB) that just means you will be 5dB lower on the volume dial (e.g. you will listen at "30" instead of "35"). But that means that Dynamic EQ is giving more boost to the bass levels because it thinks the "reference" is 5dB louder than it actually is.

As a first step, I would reset the speaker channel levels to where Audyssey set them, and then simply turn up the volume if you want it louder.


the list of subs which are better than the ESW-8 is quite a long one If you are interested in a sub upgrade you should think about your budget parameters, figure out how big your room is, and start prowling the subwoofer forum. You will find many threads every day asking for advice on "best sub in XXX$$$ price range?" and you will understand your options within a few days.

I actually did still hear the issue before I made any changes after running Audyssey. It was not as pronounced but still could hear it distorting a little. I will research some other sub alternatives.

I am overall happy with my setup and I need to try a few other BR's to test them out but Watchmen did sound incredible. I have a ton of BR's so I need to get busy watching some more.

Thanks for all your help.

Looking into some RC50s that are on sale now.

How do they handle rock/metal music?

My tastes are pretty much all over the place with 50% going to metal, the rest going to soft rock, oldies, hip hop, country, techno, etc.

Most concerned about how they handle metal.

They handle Metal very well! I haven't heard the 50s but I own both 30/70 and my guess is they would land somewhere in between. I can't compare Energy to other brands so my bias will land with Energy, but the clarity and detail of the RCs make pretty much all audio just all around amazing.

If you want to talk music, pm me. Assuming we listen to the same kind of Metal I might be able to give more info, which I'll keep off this thread since it's unrelated.

Well I waited to long a speaker combo...ARGG. Now is a CC-10 the same as a C-C100 as I have seen this nomenclature and was wondering if they are the same. Since I have to change my route a little bit now that the other speakers are gone. I am matching the C-300's up front still and probably going with a pair of C-200's for the side surrounds since the C-R100's are sold out on wwstereo.

No they are not the same, if you take off the cover they don't even look the same. CC-10 is the new C-series and the C-C100 is for the outgoing C-series. You should match up the appropriate center with whatever fronts you get. So if you get C-300s, then get the C-C100 center.
http://www.energy-speakers.com/na-en...ds=257%3b26%3b

If you get the new CF-30 towers then the CC-10 would be the right match for those.

If you really want a C-C100, they are still around, likewise the C-C50. They have been on Ebay fairly consistently with a few currently available still; unfortunately the vendor is in Canada, so shipping is a bummer, but it does have a "Make an offer" option, so you never know....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Energy-C-C100-Ce...d=p3286.c0.m14

Otherwise, I think the CC-10 would work for you, it appears to be similar enough that I don't believe it would create a real noticeable tone change on pans across the front soundstage, but the proof would be in actually trying them I guess.

FYI Bing bounced to 12% on eBay. According to posters on another site, Bing (MSN) has mentioned on Twitter and Facebook that it will go to 15% shortly.

WWStereo still has the C-C50 for $79...
http://www.wwstereo.com/#/ecommerce/...rs/33/144378//
or... through WWStereo on eBay...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ENERGY-C-C50-CEN...QQcmdZViewItem

The C-C100 on the other hand is pretty much just found on eBay right now. There are a few for around $160 right now...
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...=energy+c-c100

I just ordered the C-50 5 speaker set from wwstereo and will be connecting it to the Onkyo TX-SR507 receiver along with my few year old 10" Parts Express subwoofer. Currently, my receiver as all of the out-of-the-box settings... What are some important tweaks I should make once I hook these speakers to it?? Also, my subwoofer has a control to set the crossover frequency, what should I set this too?

Step 1: run Audyssey
Step 2: enjoy


either defeat the crossover (if possible) or else just turn the knob all the way up to the max, the receiver will be handling the "bass management" and you don't want the filter in the sub interfering with the crossovers in the receiver.

follow the Audyssey Setup Guide and you are good to go:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post14456895

I just picked up an emotiva xpa-3 amp... I'll see what kind of difference this makes.

which rig is this for? is it KEF's + SVS sub now?

It will most likely be for the kefs, but I'm going to try with the energies first to see which sound better with the emotiva. If it's a huge improvement with the energies, and only a minor improvement with the kefs. I'll keep it on the energies, and vice versa. If it's about the same with both, the emotiva will go with the kefs.

Just placed my order for two C500 speakers! Can't wait to get them in!

which speakers do you have currently, it's hard to keep track!

You've got a KEF setup in one room and a C-Series setup in another right?

Yep...

Kef IQs, in the living room with an SVS sub...

Energy c-series in the bedroom with a pa-120 sub.

The hard part is trying to eliminate the placebo effect. This is hard for a $550 amp.

So I am also looking for a set-up, my needs are primarily for home theater and only 10-25% music.

I have been looking for crisp, clear, smooth playing speakers and think that I have settled on Energy, Infinity, and Premier Acoustic. With the Energy towers, how would the RC-30's compare in sound to the C500's? Audio advisor has the 2 sets in the color I want, priced only about $30 apart.

Yet, the C500's are new and the RC30's are factory refreshed. Not sure how that plays out...

Whichever way I go, I will basically also add the matching center and bookshelves to the set-up. Then find an ideal sub too.

I have been closely following threads and doing a lot of research, but all of your advice is greatly appreciated.

The Energy RC series is the definition of clean and smooth. I haven't heard the C-500s (just the C-100s), but I also have the RC-10s and RC-70s, and both the woofer and the tweeter are better on the RCs.

And I have a confession, guys. I ordered the RC-30s from Vann's yesterday. I'm probably crazy, since I LOVE the RC-10s, but the price was crazy low and I couldn't pass it up. I'll have 3 across the front in my secondary system, keeping 2 RC-10s for rear surround duties.

Now I have to decide what to do with an over-abundance of great Energy speakers. Not an bad dilemma to be in, I suppose.

The first step to recovery is admitting you have an addiction problem. I should know, I have 10 Athena speakers and none are currently hooked up! Just can't quite seem to make it to craigslist to put them up for sale.

Good for you for coming clean

you do realize it's now your official duty to do an A/B comparison of RC-10 vs RC-30, especially crossed over at 80hz to the sub. We need an answer to the perennial "if I'm going to set it as small and cross over to a sun do I really need to spend extra for the tower va the bookshelf?".

I'm actually looking forward to doing that. A/Bing the 10s and 30s will be easy in that room. Of course, if I find the RC-30s are little to no improvement, I'll be kicking myself for giving in to the "bargain." But, I suspect I'll appreciate the difference.

The hard part may be putting the RC-10s up for sale. For what I paid for them, it'll be hard to let them go. I doubt I'll be able to do it.

I got my RC-Mini bookshelf speakers in this week and got them mounted and running. Man, these make such a huge difference in the surround duties over my old HTiB speakers. I couldn't be happier and I must say that although it isn't as "necessary" to timbre match surrounds, I'm glad I did. Having a seamless transition from back to front (and front to back) is something I'm really appreciating.

I attached some pics for your viewing pleasure.

It's a shame WWStereo charges shipping on ebay rather than offering free shipping, like on their website... The Bing discount plus free shipping would have been nice. However, the shipping charge on ebay basically cancels out the Bing discount.

I have RC-50's and think they do very well for music. They have good low-end, but I still think it's better to fill out the low end with a sub. I used my 50's without a sub for a while and liked it, but there was still a world of difference once the I added the sub.

You could step up to RC-70's, which would be better because of an extra 5.5" woofer and true 3-way design. But they won't get much more of the low end than the RC-50's.

Regardless I doubt you'd be disappointed with the 50's.

Wow, after checking out multiple reivews and some of the pricing on vann's, it appears I may have found my speaker for my 7.1 HT. I want IDENTICAL speakers all-around for completely matched tonality for music and movies, as well as an all-around, full-range sound (nice rhyme).

And at $499 each the RC-70's could fit the bill perfectly.

I've never purchased speakers sight unseen, but from all of the reviews, they appear to to be just what I'm looking for.

The Veritas line is just too expensive.

James

Wow! 7 RC-70s! I'd love to hear that! Pictures, please, if you do it. You do have a large space, don't you?

Yep, I've got the space. Little tight behind my leather sectional, but everything else is good to go. My only other concern is the center...I DON'T have the space for one vertically and laying a 70 on its side could look a bit awkward to say the least. I might have to "suffer" and get the center for that ;(.

I listen to a lot of SACD, so I just finally want to start acting like it, LOL!

I will definitely post pics.
James

Dude, how do you use an RC-70 as a center channel? Do you have a front projection system and it will project the sound through a special screen? You can't put those speakers on their side, can you? And unless you have a gigantic room; having the 70s for surround and especially rear surround is way overkill! But, with that being said, I am way jealous!! I would love to hear the finished set up; just not certain on your center channel implementation...