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post #13471 of 51489
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Originally Posted by xboxFreak View Post

Looks like they are a relatively new seller from Canada. Only been up and running since February of this year. But on the other hand, have had 62 dealings since then and have received lots of great feedback, 100% "positive" of course... Looks to sell a lot of AV equipment...

Here is another they are selling on auction, may be able to get a few bucks cheaper...

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Energy-C-C100-Cen...d=p3911.c0.m14

Would there be another center channel option (beside c-c100) that would go with the c-300, if I decide not to get it from avguru?
post #13472 of 51489
I'm selling two pairs of C-100s, one pair never opened plus a C-C100 for $350 shipped. All in original boxes and packaging including port plugs.

PM if interested. Have pics of the C-100s and C-C100 if necessary.

Not interested in selling the C-C100 individually.
LL
post #13473 of 51489
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Would there be another center channel option (beside c-c100) that would go with the c-300, if I decide not to get it from avguru?

Yes, as linked above... The C-C50, though smaller (made to pair with the C-50 bookshelfs)... This is the route I went with. Though it may be a little undersized to the c-300's in the end, it is not unimaginable, other AVS members have the same setup. We had space issues with the center placement in our HT and the fact that the C-C100 was harder to come by and nearly twice the price, swayed us the C-C50 route. When our upgrades are finished, we should have the C-C50 (purchased), (2) C-100' or C-200's haven't decided yet (to be purchased this week or next) and (2) C-300's that will replace the C-100's (or C-200's if I go with those) that will move the bookshelfs to the rear... When it is all put together I am sure the C-C50 will have to be turned up a bit in the AVR to keep up with the towers, but that is easy enough with Audyssey...
post #13474 of 51489
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Would there be another center channel option (beside c-c100) that would go with the c-300, if I decide not to get it from avguru?

Looks like you may be interested in what afrogt is selling... don't know if he would split them up though...
post #13475 of 51489
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Not interested in selling the C-C100 individually.

Yes, but would you sell a pair of the C-100's separately and the other pair and the C-C100 together?
post #13476 of 51489
for using the RC Minis as rear speakers in a 5.1 setup, how necessary is it to have them placed directly to the side? I have a 20ft wide space, and the hometheatre portion will only take up 12ft or so of that, would it not be ideal to use the included mounts to mount a foot or two outside the main seating area and angle them towards the main seating area?

or would there be a major difference if they were directly to the side (ie on stands or different mounts)
post #13477 of 51489
a couple of corrections....

"for using the RC Minis as rear speakers in a 5.1 setup"

in a 5.1 setup there are no rear speakers, there are "surrounds" which are generally to the sides and a little behind you. the "rear" surround speakers would only occur in 7.1 setup.

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how necessary is it to have them placed directly to the side?

actually you DON'T want the surrounds placed directly to the sides. If possible, get as close as you can to the standard recommendation of 10-20 degrees behind the listening zone:



There are many speaker layout guides if you do some internet searches. In a 5.1 setup you'd probably want to bias the side surrounds a little rearward, whereas with a 7.1 setup you might want the surrounds a little close to the true "sides". I would think with the RC-Mini's you would prefer the low-profile look of having them wall-mounted to either side as opposed to having stands in the middle of the room.
post #13478 of 51489
back again...yeah gang, I realize that a RC-70 would not be the ideal center choice in my arrangement, but seeing that energy doesn't offer a bona fide center channel that hooks up perfectly with the RC70's, it was an option I was looking into.

Speaking to the 7.1/5.1 deal, batpig, I would likely only use 5.1 for audio, but I like 7.1 for movies.

I have a decent amount of space and I've had full-rangers all-around before. Audyssey tends to do a great job dialing in the rears/surrounds IME, so I'm not really worried about anything being "overpowered".

Truth is, I'm really purchasing for my next home which will have a substantially larger area to "play" in. Just getting the purchase in now until "other" things start absorbing my income, if you know what I mean. Bit of a pisser that I can't get a dead-on match for a center.

have a great weekend everyone,

James
post #13479 of 51489
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Originally Posted by xboxFreak View Post

Yes, but would you sell a pair of the C-100's separately and the other pair and the C-C100 together?

That might be doable. Send me a PM of what you're looking for.
post #13480 of 51489
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Originally Posted by mastermaybe View Post

back again...yeah gang, I realize that a RC-70 would not be the ideal center choice in my arrangement, but seeing that energy doesn't offer a bona fide center channel that hooks up perfectly with the RC70's, it was an option I was looking into.

Speaking to the 7.1/5.1 deal, batpig, I would likely only use 5.1 for audio, but I like 7.1 for movies.

I have a decent amount of space and I've had full-rangers all-around before. Audyssey tends to do a great job dialing in the rears/surrounds IME, so I'm not really worried about anything being "overpowered".

Truth is, I'm really purchasing for my next home which will have a substantially larger area to "play" in. Just getting the purchase in now until "other" things start absorbing my income, if you know what I mean. Bit of a pisser that I can't get a dead-on match for a center.

James

have a great weekend everyone,

James

The RC-LCR is the center made for use with the RC-70s. It's just that I know from having had 3 LCRs across the front, and a lot of A/Bing of LCRs and 70s, that they're not a perfect match. (That's why I wanted to go with a matched set in my bedroom.)

If you're moving into new digs with an even bigger space, you still might want to go the all 70s route. One solution would be to use an acoustically transparent screen, so the 70 could sit behind it. I didn't do that for space reasons (and because my projector is relatively dim - Sharp XV-Z20000 - and I love the DaLite High Power screen). The other possibility is to move your screen up above the 70. Obviously, that wouldn't work for a lot of people, but if your room is big enough, it might. You're in the really good position of being able to do your planning without having to work around existing, unchangeable elements. That's even harder to do.
post #13481 of 51489
Has anyone ordered a pair of C-100's from AA? that can verify roughly what the shipping charges were?
post #13482 of 51489
you can estimate shipping on their site, just put in your zip code.
post #13483 of 51489
You can get the shipping charges by adding them to your cart. There is a link called "estimate shipping" above the Remove and Qty line. Just put in your zip code and it will calculate for you.

Its $36 to California from wherever AA is located. Don't know where you live but it might be cheaper for you.
post #13484 of 51489
Well I did go on an pick up the AC-300 center channel from the guy who had it listed for sale. That is a huge center channel. I am anxious to get home and get it set up tonight for movie night. Next up are surround speakers..Batpig your right the AC-300 is a big speaker and I can see how it might cound better then the C-C100 to go with my C-300's. Looks like I might be keeping the C-300's unless I can get them sold for around $200plus shipping.
post #13485 of 51489
actually the C-C100 is nearly the same size. They are the same width (19.5") and the AC-300 is less than an inch taller (7.5" vs 6.75") and about 3 inches deeper (12.75" vs 10"). AC-300 is about 3lbs heavier too... but the C-C100 is a pretty BIG center as well!

The AC-300 is a better speaker than the C-C100 overall but it won't be the 100% perfect match to the C-300's, you will have to judge for yourself how they sound together but my bet is you will be impressed.
post #13486 of 51489
Well I went home and put the AC-300 in place and hooked it up. Put on a movie and it sounded very good. It had great presence with the C-300's and was not over powering them at all. We are very pleased with it and the price was right as well on it. Now I will set up the other speakers. I have a ES-8 that I picked up today. How good are they. The guy just wanted it out of his garage. I have the 12" Veladyne now so is it even worth hooking up the ES-8 as a samll compliment to the 12"?
post #13487 of 51489
the ES-8 is a solid little 8-inch sub, I think it's probably better than the current entry-level ESW-8.... but it's not going to be better than a 12" velodyne.

since you already have it though, you might want to hook it up and place it elsewhere in the room to smooth out the bass response. if you find that certain parts of your room have severe peaks or nulls with the bass response, adding a second sub can even things out.
post #13488 of 51489
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

the ES-8 is a solid little 8-inch sub, I think it's probably better than the current entry-level ESW-8.... but it's not going to be better than a 12" velodyne.

since you already have it though, you might want to hook it up and place it elsewhere in the room to smooth out the bass response. if you find that certain parts of your room have severe peaks or nulls with the bass response, adding a second sub can even things out.


That is what I thought it might give a comliment to the 12". I am going to try it and see. I am now in search of some C-100's or C-200's for the surround unless I come across a deal on some C-R100's.
post #13489 of 51489
This is lame... my onkyo 806 doesn't have a 12 volt trigger to turn on, and off the emotiva amp.
post #13490 of 51489
wow! crazy oversight for a $1000+ AVR.... I see it has a 12V trigger but looks like it's for Zone 2 only...

does the Emo not have an auto sensing feature?
post #13491 of 51489
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

wow! crazy oversight for a $1000+ AVR.... I see it has a 12V trigger but looks like it's for Zone 2 only...

does the Emo not have an auto sensing feature?

Nope... Only 12volt trigger for power on/off. It has a manual button on the front, but I hate that since the harmony can't control it.

This really irks me that there is no 12 volt trigger. I mean, it couldn't cost them more that a handful of pennies to implement that. I'd kind of expect the emotiva to not have many features since it's in the budget range of power amps.

I guess, I'm just going to leave the amp on all of the time.
post #13492 of 51489
if you decide to keep the Emo amp, they do sell powerstrips that have triggered outlets which can be turned on by the power state of another device. e.g. turn the Onkyo on, the power strip senses that the designated outlet is active and then it turns the power on the switched outlet for the amp...
post #13493 of 51489
I have a belkin pf31 power station/conditioner which has that feature. I'm not sure if this is important, but the emotiva manual says to plug it directly in the wall, and not into a surge protector.
post #13494 of 51489
Hey BATPIG,

Can you link me to your RC- mini VS RC-LCR center channel comparison. I have just lost 10 minutes of my life looking for it. In case your write up doesn't mention it, with your AVR-789, did you set the cross on the RC min CC to 80 or 100?. 80 seems to be pushing it.

Thanks
post #13495 of 51489
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Would there be another center channel option (beside c-c100) that would go with the c-300, if I decide not to get it from avguru?

Would RC-LCR or RC-Mini Center work with the C-300?
post #13496 of 51489
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Originally Posted by DAC21 View Post

Hey BATPIG,

Can you link me to your RC- mini VS RC-LCR center channel comparison. I have just lost 10 minutes of my life looking for it. In case your write up doesn't mention it, with your AVR-789, did you set the cross on the RC min CC to 80 or 100?. 80 seems to be pushing it.

Thanks

Pretty sure he crossed @ 110Hz.
post #13497 of 51489
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Would RC-LRC or RC-Mini Center work with the C-300?

The C-C100 is optimum. Of the two you mentioned the RC-LCR would be the way to go. You could get away with the Mini in a small room and lower sound volumes IMO.
post #13498 of 51489
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Originally Posted by DAC21 View Post

The C-C100 is optimum. Of the two you mentioned the RC-LCR would be the way to go. You could get away with the Mini in a small room and lower sound volumes IMO.

Thanks DAC21, time to do some more searching.
post #13499 of 51489
why would you use the RC-Mini over the C-C50 though? you've got a double whammy of mismatch -- not only small + large, but also mixing RC with C-series.

If you need a small center get the C-C50. RC-LCR would probably work for HT applications, just because it's so good...
post #13500 of 51489
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

why would you use the RC-Mini over the C-C50 though? you've got a double whammy of mismatch -- not only small + large, but also mixing RC with C-series.

If you need a small center get the C-C50. RC-LCR would probably work for HT applications, just because it's so good...



Hey BATPIG see #13495
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