Energy Owners Thread - Page 501

15001. beat me to it.

I just got the RC70s. Which AVR is good to drive them? My current interest is on the Onkyo 507. Is it a good match? Any thoughts and suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

My pair of Outlaw LFM-1EX arrived yday. Hooked 'em up with my RC setup and man what a difference!

Quick question- Obviously, I have to use a Y-splitter to connect the two subs to my AVR's signle output. Since I my subs are placed under the screen, I'd need to fish the sub cables under the carpet. I can either...

a) Run 2 cables under the carpet, using a shorter Y-split cable closer to the AVR itself

OR

b) Use a single long cable from the AVR out, fish it under the carpet and use a splitter at the other end (closer to subs).

The second option is easier. Would it really matter how the splitting is done? I don't think so, but still wanna be sure before I place my order for sub cables at Monoprice.

Thanks for your inputs.

Got my RC-50's and RCLCR yesterday.

UPS Service was terrible. They knocked the door and in two seconds the guy was already gone. Box was HUGE and pretty beat up looking.

One of the RC-50's has a crack on its base / bottom. I'm thinking about calling in and getting a replacement. There is no telling whether this crack will lead to something worse Plus I paid a good amount of change for them

I got the speakers out and hooked them up to the new Pioneer vsx21TXH. Sounds pretty good but I'm still trying to break them in.

I'm researching a 5.1 + 2 DSX wide setup using Onkyo NR807 receiver for 90% movies, 10% music.

My room size is 15' x 20'(TV) with 16' high ceiling

I'm considering something in the range between these two extremes, (trying to avoid towers for space reasons)
(4) C-200, (2) C-R100, C-C100, ESW-8
or
(4) RC-10, (2) RC-R, RC-LCR, ESW-V8

I already have 2, 20 year old B&W DM580 towers shown here.
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I have two concerns. Will the speakers in this range be at least as good as the DM580s and worthy to be used with the NR807?

To save cost, is there any way to use the DM580s as part of the setup, without messing up the matching, perhaps just for the rear surrounds?

TIA

The ESW-V8 will be too small for that room, particularly for Home Theater.

Thanks for the response!

Because of the high ceiling? Will 1 ESW-V10 do the job? or 2 V8s?

For a room of that volume and considering your movie/music split, I would look for a quality 12" sub from an internet direct (ID) vendor like SVS, HSU or eD (Elemental Designs). For $600 you could rock that whole room with one of those. My room is half that volume (8 foot ceiling 20X15) and the ESW-V10 fills it wonderfully for music but there isn't a great deal of movie shaking (which I don't care for anyway).

The 507 will be fine. The RC 70's are very sensitive (much more so than my Veritas 2.2i's, RC 10's, or Totem Hawks) so they don't require a lot of watts to make them 'sing'. Even a SET (Single Ended Triode) Tube amp will drive those speakers just fine.

The RC-70 are great speakers - enjoy

How does the RC-30 compare to the older C-7? The C-7's have three 5.5" woofers as opposed to the two 5.5" woofer enclosed in the RC-30. The form factor is virtually identicle, with the C-7 being 3 inches deeper. But the Reference Connoseiur line is suppose to be a cut above the older C-Series.

IMO the 507 would have plenty of power...............but it is a lower mid level Receiver. Certainly a couple more hundred $ would get you a Receiver with higher quality DAC's. Maybe some might not be able to "hear" the difference, but the RC-70's deserve something better than a 507, once again IMO.

I wanted to add one more thing. The RCLCR is indeed a giant turd as described earlier. Right now it is blocking the lower part of my tv.

Its big, isn't it. Believe it or not, there are much bigger center channels out there but the LCR is one of the best and rarely comes heavily discounted. Sorry to hear about the base crack. I had mine shipped by the local postal service here (Canada Post, USPS in the States), and they were very careful with it. Had "fragile" stickers plastered all over the boxes. My wife freaked when she first saw the LCR and RC-50s and said they are "way to big". Now, like the 42" plasma, they seem to have blended into the background and no-one pays them a second thought.

Hi, can someone give me advice on speaker stands or mounts for energy take classics 5.1 system. Not a lt of room in the corners. Thanks for any help offered.
Thanks Roosta.

If any of you are in need of a Cherry RC-LCR I'd jump on this quick:

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...5/energy-rclcr

Clearance price of $270.

Hi, I have the option to buy relatively new CF-70 speakers for half off MSRP but won't be able to listen to them before hand. Are these good speakers? and can someone describe the sound to me? They will be used in a 2-ch music only setup paired with an HK3490 receiver.

I wrote an initial review of some cb-10s awhile back. The CF-70s are probably significantly better, but should have a similar sound. I have since had more time with them, and have a/b/c 'd them with kefs, and rc-70s. I've just been too lazy to type it up. I'll probably do it tomorrow when I have more time.

For a time there at the beginning when lurking on this forum and another that I toyed with the idea of buying three RC-LCR's for my fronts because they were so inexpensive - well discounted in price. With that same price for both a pair of RC-10s and an ESW-V10 that would have made [still would?] a 5.1 speaker system price of just US$1500.

Well, the RC-70s seemed to be calling for just $400 more and then there was that debackle where I bought some C-R100s and ended up using them for IIz 'heights.' But also no one on the forums were talking about using RC-LCRs across the board for fronts (that I remember reading); does anyone do so now? What do they sound like?

That would be very interesting to read!

My RC-70s came double-boxed from Vanns via FedEx and had a 2.5-3 inch hole in one side and the large box holding both speakers was also pretty much a quivering mess, it had gotten wet. It looked like a large exposed bolt and/or nut on the side of the trailer might have punched through. I expected the worse. Opened the outer box to find a matching hole in the factory box. Spirits really started to sink. We opened the factory box and found that the paper covering the speaker did not have a mark on it and the speaker was fine. No water damage to the interior boxes either. Talk about relief! If Vanns hadn't double-boxed them that speaker would have been damaged for sure.

...and got a RC-LCR matching the fronts RC-70.



amazing speaker!

sorrounds RC-10 coming soon.

Regards,
Ed

Nice setup! Just curious, what are those boards on top of the RC-70s?

Black granite.

Regards,
Edward

I was wondering what the framed boards behind the RC's were. IS that some accoustic material?

Anyone have a picture of a C (50, 100, 200) series in the cherry finish? I don't really like the look of it online and I wonder if it looks fake and all orange like it does in the pictures. OTOH it seems like a good speaker and a great price..for my limited purposes.

heavyweight cardboard, more aesthetic than functional

Having owned both C-7 and RC-30, I moved to the RC line only after having upgraded to the LCR from the C-C100 to timber match the front. True, the RC's are a cut above the older Connoseiurs, but the C-7's are definately better than any of the other C-series (exclude the new C's as I have not heard them to compare). The RC drivers are more advanced and the tweeter is more relaxed/clear, but the C's are pretty darn close in terms of performance. The C-7's can dig deeper because of the extra woofer, but the 30's do not lack either, and are very impressive considering. It's funny even how the C-7 dwarf the RC-30 in physical size, the 30s look like 'baby' speakers. I have a 'family' picture showing this if you search the thread.

What will you be using it for? In the aesthetic department, the RC's win hands down. For movies, the C-7 will probably be in favor, and music the RC's are superior IMO, but the C-7s and close behind.

I've posted about this issue before. I had 3 LCRs across the front for about a year and a half. The sound is quite good, but it is a little "chesty" to me. It's as though the speakers have a bit of a chest cold. I prefer the RC-30s across the front, even though the LCR is a true 3-way design.

Just curious which work better as surround speakers in a 5.1 system....RC-Rs or RC-10s? I think they can be had for close to the same amount of money.

Does anyone have any experience with the sound of the CF line they can share? or is the general consensus "Get the RC"?