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post #15661 of 47776
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Vanns has the RC-10 in black under $300. Haven't seen that before.

.77 cheaper than the Cherry ones Remember all, you can save another $9 by signing up with Mr Rebates (no cost) for an extra 3% off any purchase at Vann's. $291 delivered for RC-10's? Take it too the bank.
post #15662 of 47776
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Vanns has the RC-10 in black under $300. Haven't seen that before.

I've been watching the price on RC-10s for several weeks. Received a new Onlyo NR807 last week so I want to upgrade all my old 1990's gear as soon as replacements are affordable. The pair of cherry RC-10s has been 299.00 for a while but finally the black ones are on sale too. I ordered a pair this morning. They expect stock about 11/30. Now I'm looking for upgrades to my center and surround speakers.

Can't wait for the RC-10s to come

Ted
post #15663 of 47776
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Originally Posted by howzat999 View Post

I've been watching the price on RC-10s for several weeks. Received a new Onlyo NR807 last week so I want to upgrade all my old 1990's gear as soon as replacements are affordable. The pair of cherry RC-10s has been 299.00 for a while but finally the black ones are on sale too. I ordered a pair this morning. They expect stock about 11/30. Now I'm looking for upgrades to my center and surround speakers.

Can't wait for the RC-10s to come

Ted

What about the Energy RC Mini for surrounds, they are $100 a pair from vanns.
post #15664 of 47776
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Originally Posted by tdogroeder View Post

What about the Energy RC Mini for surrounds, they are $100 a pair from vanns.

That's not for a pair. That's $100 for one speaker. I wish they were $100 a pair.
post #15665 of 47776
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Originally Posted by jp_tech View Post

That's not for a pair. That's $100 for one speaker. I wish they were $100 a pair.

My bad
post #15666 of 47776
I just got my cherry rc-10's in today. I will post some pics later.
post #15667 of 47776
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Originally Posted by jp_tech View Post

That's not for a pair. That's $100 for one speaker. I wish they were $100 a pair.

Yes, the Rosenut and Cherry versions of the RC mini are 99.88 each. Thats better than the 224.94 each for the black though. Looks like I'll have to wait.

Ted
post #15668 of 47776
just get another pair of RC-10s for surrounds in black. At $299/pr can you really go wrong?

or a couple of C-50 bookshelf speakers. That's less than $100/pr.
http://www.wwstereo.com/website/ecom...x?product=C-50
post #15669 of 47776
I was initially trying to put together an RC Mini 5.0 set with RC 10's in the front in a Rosenut finish, but it is seemingly impossible to find the RC 10's. I found a couple RC-30's, at an okay but not great price, and was wondering how that mix would sound.

Would RC-30's in the front, RC Mini center and RC Mini's in the back sound good together, or is there too much of a sound divide between the RC-30's and the RC Mini's?

Thanks in advance!
post #15670 of 47776
OK...
I'm going crazy. The more I read these forums, the more options keep opening up, but I think I'm somewhat settled on Energy RC series now.

I just want to run this by with you guys.

I think diving straight into a 5.1 system with an AVR is somewhat illogical as being patient and building the system in parts seems alot more reasonable.

Originally, I just wanted to order Denon 2310CI, and RC-50 5.1 (2 RC-R's, 2 RC-50's, 1 RC-LCR and ESW-V10), all at once.

My revised plan is to buy the Denon 2310CI (or maybe AVR1910), a pair of RC-10's and the ESW-V10. Basically, start off with 2.1 and work my way up. The logic behind this is to determine if RC-10 will be sufficient enough for me (before diving for RC-50s). If they are, then good, I already have them, just add on the center and the surrounds and I'm set. If not, then I can order a pair of RC-50's and use RC-10's as surrounds.

What do you guys think about this approach? Is it ridiculous?
post #15671 of 47776
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Originally Posted by cerberus414 View Post

OK...
I'm going crazy. The more I read these forums, the more options keep opening up, but I think I'm somewhat settled on Energy RC series now.

I just want to run this by with you guys.

I think diving straight into a 5.1 system with an AVR is somewhat illogical as being patient and building the system in parts seems alot more reasonable.

Originally, I just wanted to order Denon 2310CI, and RC-50 5.1 (2 RC-R's, 2 RC-50's, 1 RC-LCR and ESW-V10), all at once.

My revised plan is to buy the Denon 2310CI (or maybe AVR1910), a pair of RC-10's and the ESW-V10. Basically, start off with 2.1 and work my way up. The logic behind this is to determine if RC-10 will be sufficient enough for me (before diving for RC-50s). If they are, then good, I already have them, just add on the center and the surrounds and I'm set. If not, then I can order a pair of RC-50's and use RC-10's as surrounds.

What do you guys think about this approach? Is it ridiculous?

I wouldn't say it's ridiculous, but based on my experience if I were to do it over again I'd go for the best 2.1 I could afford. I wish I would have just got 2 RC-70s when they were on sale a few months ago
post #15672 of 47776
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

just get another pair of RC-10s for surrounds in black. At $299/pr can you really go wrong?

or a couple of C-50 bookshelf speakers. That's less than $100/pr.
http://www.wwstereo.com/website/ecom...x?product=C-50



I concur, C-50 would be a good fit, and the price is very good. Too bad WWStereo is asking a ridiculous $20 shipping by buying these from there Ebay store, thus making BING irrelevant.
post #15673 of 47776
I have the rc-10's connected to a pioneer dsx-509s receiver, and Wadia 170i transport I used for my listening. I am very impressed with these speakers, they replaced av123 elt525m.

The elt's are much more laid back and not as efficient as the energy's. The energy's have better bass and are more neutral and more revealing. The elt & energy cabinets are cherry, the energy's cabinets are a better looking one. The elt cabinet is more on the orange side, the energy's more on the red side.

The wadia dock is such a great dock, but pricey for what you get but it is the right one for my application.





post #15674 of 47776
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Originally Posted by cerberus414 View Post

OK...
I'm going crazy. The more I read these forums, the more options keep opening up, but I think I'm somewhat settled on Energy RC series now.

I just want to run this by with you guys.

I think diving straight into a 5.1 system with an AVR is somewhat illogical as being patient and building the system in parts seems alot more reasonable.

Originally, I just wanted to order Denon 2310CI, and RC-50 5.1 (2 RC-R's, 2 RC-50's, 1 RC-LCR and ESW-V10), all at once.

My revised plan is to buy the Denon 2310CI (or maybe AVR1910), a pair of RC-10's and the ESW-V10. Basically, start off with 2.1 and work my way up. The logic behind this is to determine if RC-10 will be sufficient enough for me (before diving for RC-50s). If they are, then good, I already have them, just add on the center and the surrounds and I'm set. If not, then I can order a pair of RC-50's and use RC-10's as surrounds.

What do you guys think about this approach? Is it ridiculous?

Sounds good to me. You can't go wrong with using the RC-10s as surounds (some would say overkill but not me). If you like them for fronts I would get more of the same for surround and even center if it fits where you need to put you center. If you do want to go for the RC-50 consider the 70. If there is a deal on them at the time. They are a set up on the 50 and true 3 way speakers.
post #15675 of 47776
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Originally Posted by DAC21 View Post

I concur, C-50 would be a good fit, and the price is very good. Too bad WWStereo is asking a ridiculous $20 shipping by buying these from there Ebay store, thus making BING irrelevant.

Geez, they are $89/pr shipped from their website, how much cheaper does it need to be? That is cheaper than the ebay Bing 8% deal even if there wasn't a $20 shipping charge.

http://www.wwstereo.com/website/ecom...x?product=C-50
post #15676 of 47776
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Originally Posted by ryn996 View Post

I wouldn't say it's ridiculous, but based on my experience if I were to do it over again I'd go for the best 2.1 I could afford. I wish I would have just got 2 RC-70s when they were on sale a few months ago

Well, That's what I was hoping for too. They don't have that many good sales on them, so I'll just have to wait. Using RC-10's as surrounds is always an option if I ever decide to buy a pair of RC-50's or RC-70's
post #15677 of 47776
Hey guys, its been a while, Batpigs still going strong I see

Anyway, im in need of rear speakers, so far the options are the RC-minis for 175 for the pair, which seems like a good deal if its 100 each on an american website. The other option is some lower end Bestbuy exclusive speakers. I've had the prior gen models of the bestbuy speakers and they are very average at best, but its dirt cheap, im sure these are a little better though. I just dont know if I want to spend 200 bucks on rears, im such a poor bastard . Heck, I bought my RC-10s for only 280.

So ya, im not too worried about rears, they aren't too important I find, so I would love to save money if you guys think the mini's aren't worth it. Will the mini's hold their own with RC-10s as Fronts?
post #15678 of 47776
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Originally Posted by ryn996 View Post

I wouldn't say it's ridiculous, but based on my experience if I were to do it over again I'd go for the best 2.1 I could afford. I wish I would have just got 2 RC-70s when they were on sale a few months ago

That sale was what settled my mind on RC-70 fronts. I was comparing Energy and Aperion and was almost ready to by into an Aperion system. They were winning out on the basis of cost. But when I found the sale at Vann's (through this forum) my whole priorities reordered; suddenly higher quality was affordable. Getting an Energy speaker system at 45% of MSRP was -ing.
post #15679 of 47776
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Originally Posted by cerberus414 View Post

OK...
I'm going crazy. The more I read these forums, the more options keep opening up, but I think I'm somewhat settled on Energy RC series now.
...
Originally, I just wanted to order Denon 2310CI, and RC-50 5.1 (2 RC-R's, 2 RC-50's, 1 RC-LCR and ESW-V10), all at once.

My revised plan is to buy the Denon 2310CI (or maybe AVR1910), a pair of RC-10's and the ESW-V10. Basically, start off with 2.1 and work my way up. The logic behind this is to determine if RC-10 will be sufficient enough for me (before diving for RC-50s). If they are, then good, I already have them, just add on the center and the surrounds and I'm set. If not, then I can order a pair of RC-50's and use RC-10's as surrounds.

What do you guys think about this approach? Is it ridiculous?

Somewhere in this thread someone said (and I think Batpig concurred) that Energys sound better going through Denons. When I settled on Energy speakers, that settled my mind and I went for the 2310CI with my RC-70 fronts.

I like your idea though. When I made the decision for my RC-70s I knew I had to fill a large room. Your room size will likely be a not a small factor in whether the RC-10s fill your needs. I have RC-10s as my surrounds and they hold their own with the RC-70s and an RC-LCR up front.
post #15680 of 47776
Hey guys, I need some opinions. First off I am 16 y/o and only make 4500$ a year. I want to build a decent 5.1 for 1000$.

I Have a pair of CB-10's I got new on Ebay for 150$ free shipping and my parents are going in 2/3 with me to get a ESW-V10 for XMAS (Accually, its already ordered but dont get till 25th...) I have a Onkyo SR-507 reciever that I paid 294$. I need to know if I should get a pair of RC-10's & a RC-LCR for fronts and use CB-10's for Rears or what...

I promised myself I would only spend 1000$ on this 5.1. I have spent 524$, so far. If you were me what would you get from here?
post #15681 of 47776
Hello,

thanks to this forum I think I've settled on Energy's for my HT setup. I have a few questions and hopefully this thread can help settle them out. I have a Denon 1909 and a roughly 23x15 room (although the viewing area is about 12x15). I have a Klipsch RW-8 that I'll use as my sub. I was initially looking at the Take 5s/Take Sats/C-50s. Looking at the specs, it seems like the RC-Minis are better speakers and with the sale at Vanns, they are definitely in my price range ($500 or less). Is the RC-Mini-CC worth the cost of a center channel, or could I go with another RC-Mini as a center? Would the Take LRC be a decent option or step backwards for a center?

As it stands right now, I'm looking at getting two RC-Minis for front L/R along with one of the above center channel options. I'll use my old satellites for surrounds until I can fill out the system.

I guess I should have wrote up front that my wife thinks smaller is better, but I want better sound than satellites, thus the move to RC-Minis over my current satellites (who shall remain nameless).

Thanks in advance for any comments/suggestions.
post #15682 of 47776
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Originally Posted by MassacrexX View Post

Hey guys, I need some opinions. First off I am 16 y/o and only make 4500$ a year. I want to build a decent 5.1 for 1000$.

I Have a pair of CB-10's I got new on Ebay for 150$ free shipping and my parents are going in 2/3 with me to get a ESW-V10 for XMAS (Accually, its already ordered but dont get till 25th...) I have a Onkyo SR-507 reciever that I paid 294$. I need to know if I should get a pair of RC-10's & a RC-LCR for fronts and use CB-10's for Rears or what...

I promised myself I would only spend 1000$ on this 5.1. I have spent 524$, so far. If you were me what would you get from here?

That leaves you $476, you're not going to be able to get a pair of RC-10s and an LCR for that price. They go for $600 total at best!
post #15683 of 47776
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Originally Posted by pack66 View Post

Hello,

thanks to this forum I think I've settled on Energy's for my HT setup. I have a few questions and hopefully this thread can help settle them out. I have a Denon 1909 and a roughly 23x15 room (although the viewing area is about 12x15). I have a Klipsch RW-8 that I'll use as my sub. I was initially looking at the Take 5s/Take Sats/C-50s. Looking at the specs, it seems like the RC-Minis are better speakers and with the sale at Vanns, they are definitely in my price range ($500 or less). Is the RC-Mini-CC worth the cost of a center channel, or could I go with another RC-Mini as a center? Would the Take LRC be a decent option or step backwards for a center?

As it stands right now, I'm looking at getting two RC-Minis for front L/R along with one of the above center channel options. I'll use my old satellites for surrounds until I can fill out the system.

I guess I should have wrote up front that my wife thinks smaller is better, but I want better sound than satellites, thus the move to RC-Minis over my current satellites (who shall remain nameless).

Thanks in advance for any comments/suggestions.


While doing further research, I found this from Home Theater Mag:

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The Take Classic satellite is a two-way design with two drivers. So, surprisingly enough, is the Take Classic center. It eschews the woofer-tweeter-woofer array so common in center speakers in favor of a single woofer and tweeter. The only differences between the satellite and center are that the latter's enclosure is a little longer, presumably for horizontal placement, and it has two front ports instead of a single back port.

People, the absence of a second woofer is front-page news. It means that this center is more graceful in handling a problem that plagues the vast majority of other dedicated center speakers to some degree. The problem is lobing. While this phenomenon affects all speakers with physically separate drive units, it occurs profoundly in the dispersion patterns of speakers utilizing dual midwoofers operating over the same frequency range. When listened to off axis, they sum and cancel each other differently at various angles. In the case of most horizontal center speakers, the listener in the center seat may enjoy flat frequency response, but the listeners off to the sides won't. The Take Classic designers deserve credit for doing the right thing where so many others bow to bad habits and marketing inertia.

Maybe going three RC-Mini's across would be a better, if not as aesthetically pleasing option? Or maybe I should just go back to my original idea of buying a Take 5 classic setup. I liked the idea of going a little bigger than satellites, but smaller than bookshelves.
post #15684 of 47776
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Originally Posted by tdogroeder View Post

I have the rc-10's connected to a pioneer dsx-509s receiver, and Wadia 170i transport I used for my listening. I am very impressed with these speakers, they replaced av123 elt525m.

The elt's are much more laid back and not as efficient as the energy's. The energy's have better bass and are more neutral and more revealing. The elt & energy cabinets are cherry, the energy's cabinets are a better looking one. The elt cabinet is more on the orange side, the energy's more on the red side...

Wow that's funny, I was just about to buy a pair of ELT 525 monitors during the Black Friday sale for $169, then I *thought* they were sold out and I had missed my chance. Then I see that Vann's has the RC-10s in black on sale, so I preordered those. Now I find out that the ELT 525 monitors are "back" on sale, and I'm stuck with both .

If I had to guess I think I might like the ELT 525m better because I like a more laidback, less revealing sound. Hopefully I will be able to pair them both up with a Peachtree Decco (not yet purchased), though like you said the ELT are more inefficient so I have less options there.

Nice pics too by the way. I am a little more favorable towards the ELT's finish in accordance to the rest of my room, but both look great. I'm kind of mad now that I ordered the rosewood ELT 525 because I figured it might have better resale if it were the more popular of the two, now I am kind of upset I didn't get the cherry. Such things are trivial though .

Edit: Ah hell, I just ended up buying the ELT 525m in cherry as well.
post #15685 of 47776
[quote=Lij;17609404]Somewhere in this thread someone said (and I think Batpig concurred) that Energys sound better going through Denons. When I settled on Energy speakers, that settled my mind and I went for the 2310CI with my RC-70 fronts.

I would have to disagree to that statement about Denon's and Energys being better in sound than other manufacturers products.
My Pop has Veritas speakers and a Dennon 4308 compared to my Pioneer Elite SC-07 and I must say that the Pioneer has a much fuller sound, more open sound and is smoother and not as bright/harsh as the Denon and we are not talking a little bit. We have the same speakers, room size etc and it's nothing against Denon, they make a great product but don't limit yourself as I would also look at Harmon/Kardon as they also sound awsome and won't break the bank. The kicker is that even my Pop likes the sound of my SC07 better so don't rush to make a decision.
Each receiver manufacturer has different sounds and you should try going to a local shop and listen to the different manufacturers to see what sounds best to YOU!

Happy Turkey Day and I have just started to Veneer my Veritas's with some South American Rosewood on the sides and front of all the speakers as that black plastic glossy sideing had to go. The veneer with the stain I chose are going to look amazing!!!
post #15686 of 47776
Wouldn't significantly better sounding be a bit much?

I have an external emotiva xpa-3 600w amp, and onkyo 806 receiver. While, I did notice an improvement in sound, it's really nothing to write home about. It only really improved at higher volumes.
post #15687 of 47776
Does anybody know if the RC-10s in black have been on sale for 50% before or could this perhaps be a sign that they are being discontinued like the cherry?
post #15688 of 47776
First time I've seen them for $299 ever in black. You can chat with a Vanns specialist online. Maybe they could answer your question.
post #15689 of 47776
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

First time I've seen them for $299 ever in black. You can chat with a Vanns specialist online. Maybe they could answer your question.


They ran a 2 hr. sale about three months back, Black RC-10 and S10.3 sub for $399. Technically the sub was free, but $200 each is a tad more realistic based on what Vanns probably bought them for.
post #15690 of 47776
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Originally Posted by cerberus414 View Post

OK...
I'm going crazy. The more I read these forums, the more options keep opening up, but I think I'm somewhat settled on Energy RC series now.

I just want to run this by with you guys.

I think diving straight into a 5.1 system with an AVR is somewhat illogical as being patient and building the system in parts seems alot more reasonable.

Originally, I just wanted to order Denon 2310CI, and RC-50 5.1 (2 RC-R's, 2 RC-50's, 1 RC-LCR and ESW-V10), all at once.

My revised plan is to buy the Denon 2310CI (or maybe AVR1910), a pair of RC-10's and the ESW-V10. Basically, start off with 2.1 and work my way up. The logic behind this is to determine if RC-10 will be sufficient enough for me (before diving for RC-50s). If they are, then good, I already have them, just add on the center and the surrounds and I'm set. If not, then I can order a pair of RC-50's and use RC-10's as surrounds.

What do you guys think about this approach? Is it ridiculous?

OK, I'm quoting my own post just as a refresher as to what my case is.

So, apparently I can't seem to agree with the sales person on the price of the 2310CI that I want (plus they are out of stock anyways at EE). So I am considering stepping it down to Denon AVR1910. Would my system be severely compromised or will the difference will be negligible (all additional features aside). I would really like to hear batpig's input on this. (BTW, the pair of RC-10's and the ESW-V10 have been ordered and are already on their way)

Thanks
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