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post #16201 of 47788
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

All those RC minis, centers, etc are manufactured in the same place.

And the best part: that place is Canada!

It's the only part of my Home Theater that isn't made on another continent.

Who says North America cannot still produce awesome products?

Long live Energy!
post #16202 of 47788
sorry to burst your bubbles, it's made in China. It is, however, designed in Canada.
post #16203 of 47788
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Originally Posted by kliang View Post

sorry to burst your bubbles, it's made in China. It is, however, designed in Canada.

I was afraid that was the case... *pop* *pop*

What modern North American would want to build wooden boxes for a living? Now *engineering* wooden boxes... there's a job!

That means my entire Home Theater was made in China (except for my Yahama receiver, which I believe was made in Malaysia, although engineered in Japan?).

Oh well. That's just the way things are these days I suppose.

Well, at least they sound good; it could have been worse, I guess... I could have a crappy sounding made-in-China HTIB... *sigh*
post #16204 of 47788
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Originally Posted by HDgeneration View Post

Does anyone know if they sell stands for the Energy take classics 5?

Not specifically for them, no. However, the Omnimount EL0 stand should work very well. That's what I was planning on using to mount my Take Classics... until I just recently purchased 3 of the C-50s from WWstereo. My girlfriend has told me not to buy anything from Amazon until after Christmas, so I'm guessing I'm getting a gift card for Amazon or somesuch. With any luck, I'll still be able to nab a couple of the C-300s from Amazon after Christmas to put up front and use the C-50s as my surrounds and center.

I almost feel bad, since I haven't even had a chance to set up the Take Classics and they're already being replaced. I'm thinking of somehow using them for my PC speakers...
post #16205 of 47788
I'm not sure what you can do besides trying to glue it back down. I've heard of some people who simply peeled off the veneer shell to expose the real wood underneath, and then sand and re-stain it. If you are handy you could end up with a nice look... you may also want to call up Energy and see if they have any suggestions.[/quote]

Thank you! That has been my only pitfall with this setup....I do love it though.

Shane
post #16206 of 47788
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Originally Posted by Kyuu View Post

I haven't even had a chance to set up the Take Classics and they're already being replaced.

Wow, this upgrade bug is coming sooner and sooner.
post #16207 of 47788
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Originally Posted by HDgeneration View Post

Does anyone know if they sell stands for the Energy take classics 5?

thanks

I use the Omnimount Gemini. They are very nice looking but would be even better if they had larger top plate mounting options.

http://www.amazon.com/OmniMount-Gemi...1585008&sr=8-3

Here are a few pics of them setup with Takes.
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post #16208 of 47788
I'm thinking of converting the C50's to a keyhole mount by attaching them to a piece of plywood using a 3/8" 16 bolt and then creating a keyhole mount on the wood.

Seems pretty simple, but wanted to know if anyone else has already done something similar. No sense in reinventing the wheel.

Thanks.
post #16209 of 47788
Not sure if anyone else noticed but FS has an 'online only' flyer with the RC-70's listed at $1500/pair for those in Canada.
post #16210 of 47788
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Originally Posted by PoshFrosh View Post

That is freakin' awesome! Completely my style! I hope you are seriously using that and not joking. (Or at the very least for testing placement, etc.)

I jury rig speaker solutions all the time using everything from cardboard boxes to monkey hooks. Note the setup I'm currently using (pic attached): monkey hooks for the Take rear surrounds and a white cabinet and a Sanus stand on the dining room table for the C100 side surrounds.

Again, I love/envy the chair shelf so much! Kudos!

P.S. I also liked the picture batpig posted a couple pages back where it looks like the speaker was hovering in the corner with no support. Both that and the chair-mount have a abstract art aesthetic all their own.

Thanks Posh! Yes, they are the real deal. My 5 & 7yr old boys had grown out of them and we were about to toss them in the trash. I decided to sand them down, spray paint them with black chalk board paint (flat) and mounted them up on the wall. Those are for the rear RC-10's.....fronts are RC-50's so no chairs needed. Fun stuff
post #16211 of 47788
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Originally Posted by linux426 View Post

Those are for the rear RC-10's...

How high do you have them mounted?
post #16212 of 47788
hey jp_tech, how are you mounting those to the stand...just using velcro?
post #16213 of 47788
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Originally Posted by PoshFrosh View Post

How high do you have them mounted?

42" -- with our couch, it puts the speakers about a foot above ear level. Someone, I think on this forum, recommended this link as a guide (Dolby Placement Guide)
post #16214 of 47788
Anyone using the OmniMount ELO stands? I have 16 gauge speaker wire and I can't get it through the little opening at the top. What wire are you using with these?
post #16215 of 47788
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Originally Posted by nboemio View Post

Anyone using the OmniMount ELO stands? I have 16 gauge speaker wire and I can't get it through the little opening at the top. What wire are you using with these?

Will 18 gauge wire fit OK?
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

Would the jacket on this be thinner than the one on the 16 gauge?
post #16216 of 47788
Received my Denon 2310ci yesterday, and 1 pair of RC-10's (black). Got my ESW-v10 sub last week. Finally able to start piecing it together, although still need my TV console to come. Anyways...

What purpose do the port plugs serve that came with the RC-10's? ESW-V10has two rear ports but no plugs.

Lots of other questions, but I'll wait until getting the TV console and spending some quality time trying it myself. Don't think my sub is dialed in yet after auto config with Audessey. I'll be back.
post #16217 of 47788
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What purpose do the port plugs serve that came with the RC-10's? ESW-V10has two rear ports but no plugs.

In case you put the RC-10s next to the wall, you can use the port plugs to keep the speakers from having boomy bass.

I've never seen any sub come with port plugs.
post #16218 of 47788
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

In case you put the RC-10s next to the wall, you can use the port plugs to keep the speakers from having boomy bass.

I received my RC-10s today too and got the same plugs. Great that they include them!

Question though... Back a few posts ago I asked whether plugging the ports would affect the sound or not, but never got a response. Has anyone plugged their ports to wall mount? If so, how do they sound?
post #16219 of 47788
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Originally Posted by MT_WRX View Post

I received my RC-10s today too and got the same plugs. Great that they include them!

Question though... Back a few posts ago I asked whether plugging the ports would affect the sound or not, but never got a response. Has anyone plugged their ports to wall mount? If so, how do they sound?


Never tried the plugs, but their main purpose is for book shelf installations. You can imagine how they might sound in a tight book shelf install.

Skooby
post #16220 of 47788
It'll affect the sound, you'll get a little less bass.

You can try the plugs w/o mounting the speakers on a wall. Just put them in and listen for a while, and then take them out.
post #16221 of 47788
Hi All,

I've been trying to search the forum on the best wall mounts for a set of Take 5's that I recently purchased while they were $130 set. It appears that I wasn't alone in the purchase. Well I've been looking at the two mounts offered at Monoprice.com

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

and http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

Unfortunately, the first look better but haven't been available for some time. I've also seen mention of Omnimounts. Can anyone make some suggestions based on your installs?

Still looking for a receiver for the setup. Leaning towards a refurbed HK AVR 354. I like the fact that it has an iPod dock included and my cousin also owns it (he has more av experience than I). I'll also be using a Sony SA-WM40 that's been sitting around my house for some time. I'll probably do some of the modifications that I've seen mentioned on the internet.

Thanks for the help,
Gary
post #16222 of 47788
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Originally Posted by krispykeith View Post

hey jp_tech, how are you mounting those to the stand...just using velcro?

I am using one of the top plate mounts and double sided tape that comes with the stands. They come with other mounts but they were the only ones I could get to work. They will stay on fine as long as they don't get knocked around much. If the plates were a little bigger they would be more secure (they are only about 2" squared). You could probably use velcro tape strips also if that's what you wanted to do.
post #16223 of 47788
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Originally Posted by nboemio View Post

Anyone using the OmniMount ELO stands? I have 16 gauge speaker wire and I can't get it through the little opening at the top. What wire are you using with these?

Have you tried using a straightened coat hanger (or some other rigid but thin object), attaching the speaker wire to it with some electrical tape (wrap it really well), and then pulling it through? You might just need more force than you can manage pushing the wire from the bottom.

Omnimount has a customer support line at 800-668-6848. Perhaps they'll have some tips.
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Originally Posted by PoshFrosh View Post

Wow, this upgrade bug is coming sooner and sooner.

Hah. Well I bought the Take Classics long before I'd be able to set them up (I'm still not going to be able to set up my HT room until the first week of January). In the interim, with more research, I discovered that I'd probably be more satisfied with the C-300s/C-50s due to the Take Classics simply being small, with the consequential trouble with mid-bass and problems with harshness if I turn them up. I'm not under the impression that the Take Classics wouldn't sound good, of course.

Just, I'm thinking (though I don't know for sure of course) that the C-300s/C-50s system will be a much better overall system, and worth the extra (130x2 + 44.5x3) $393.50 as compared to the Take Classics. Especially given I'm past the 30 days return period on the Take Classics. I'm still thinking the Take Classics might make good speakers for my computer though.
post #16224 of 47788
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Originally Posted by Kyuu View Post

In the interim, with more research, I discovered that I'd probably be more satisfied with the C-300s/C-50s due to the Take Classics simply being small, with the consequential trouble with mid-bass and problems with harshness if I turn them up. I'm not under the impression that the Take Classics wouldn't sound good, of course.

Just, I'm thinking (though I don't know for sure of course) that the C-300s/C-50s system will be a much better overall system, and worth the extra (130x2 + 44.5x3) $393.50 as compared to the Take Classics. Especially given I'm past the 30 days return period on the Take Classics. I'm still thinking the Take Classics might make good speakers for my computer though.

I figured I'd chime in here. The Takes are ANYTHING but harsh, please beleive when I say these tweeters are silky smooth. Unless you crank these out of the box on a crappy receiver, you should not hear a hint of harshness or "trouble" with mid-bass. These require a pretty steep break in of 50hrs before you can really turn them up and work them out. I have been nothing short of impressed by the transformation they've made over the course of breaking them in, especially at this price point.

Definitely give them a shot with a wide range sub and mid-range receiver. Tuning via something like Audyssey makes a huge difference in speakers like this.

They're far from "ideal", and the C's will sound better, but you're paying for better so it makes sense. Just dont discount these speakers before you hear them fully warmed up in a proper configuration, for $130, you cant touch sound reproduction.
post #16225 of 47788
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Originally Posted by Kyuu View Post

I discovered that I'd probably be more satisfied with the C-300s/C-50s ...

I say keep the ball rolling. Place an order for the c300s&50s but then, before they even arrive, order yourself some RC70s
post #16226 of 47788
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Originally Posted by audio4me View Post

I figured I'd chime in here. The Takes are ANYTHING but harsh, please beleive when I say these tweeters are silky smooth. Unless you crank these out of the box on a crappy receiver, you should not hear a hint of harshness or "trouble" with mid-bass. These require a pretty steep break in of 50hrs before you can really turn them up and work them out. I have been nothing short of impressed by the transformation they've made over the course of breaking them in, especially at this price point.

Definitely give them a shot with a wide range sub and mid-range receiver. Tuning via something like Audyssey makes a huge difference in speakers like this.

They're far from "ideal", and the C's will sound better, but you're paying for better so it makes sense. Just dont discount these speakers before you hear them fully warmed up in a proper configuration, for $130, you cant touch sound reproduction.

Maybe I just got a bad set or my receiver (Onkyo 607) is the problem but my Takes are plenty harsh when pushed just a little bit. Don't get me wrong, they are very nice for their size and price. I have played with all the settings for a while now and I just can't get them to perform to my liking which is why I am looking to upgrade.
post #16227 of 47788
Hi all, I am new to this HT thing and I´ve been flollowing this forum for a while and it has helped a lot. I decided to put together my first HT system and pulled the trigger on an onkyo 607 and edA2-300. saw the take 5 deal too good and bought it as well. However, reading in this forum, I noticed that take 5´s dont seem to do awesome in big rooms, so I´m trying to see my options here. My living room is 20x19 , in an apartment building. I will use the setup for 80% movies, 15% TV/Gaming and 5% music. I´m thinking on buying 2x RC-10´s and make the whole system 7.1 and change the center speaker for a RC-Mini or something like that. As this is my 1st home theater, I wanna do it right. I dont mind returning the take 5´s and do something better, speakers wise. bookshelves or floorstanders are both welcome. my budget for the speakers will be around $500 - 600´s. is this idea ok? any other recommendation?

Appreciate the help and input
post #16228 of 47788
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Originally Posted by PoshFrosh View Post

I say keep the ball rolling. Place an order for the c300s&50s but then, before they even arrive, order yourself some RC70s

Hey now, don't tempt me... the C-50s will be here on the 4th and C-300s should follow soon, so I've got a couple weeks to do just that.
post #16229 of 47788
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Originally Posted by audio4me View Post

I figured I'd chime in here. The Takes are ANYTHING but harsh, please beleive when I say these tweeters are silky smooth. Unless you crank these out of the box on a crappy receiver, you should not hear a hint of harshness or "trouble" with mid-bass.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I didn't mean to suggest that I think the Take Classics will be harsh. From all I've heard, they're amazingly clear and great sounding speakers, asides from their inability to to do the lower mid-bass regions well; but of course, that's a problem with any satellite speaker due simply to their small size/woofer. I just meant that when really cranking them up I've heard (and it seems reasonable to assume) that they're going to get a bit harsh simply because, again, they're small satellite speakers. Not because they're of poor quality or anything.
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Just dont discount these speakers before you hear them fully warmed up in a proper configuration, for $130, you cant touch sound reproduction.

I haven't discounted them, and I know for damn sure nothing I'll find in the $130 price range for 5.0 set (or even just for a pair) is likely to surpass them. I've actually given them to my brother to try out over the Christmas holiday. I'll be visiting his place and listening to them myself soon, and I'll see what he thinks of them. If he doesn't like them, I'll be happy to take them back and find a use for them.
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Originally Posted by beahead99 View Post

However, reading in this forum, I noticed that take 5´s dont seem to do awesome in big rooms[...]

Despite the fact that the Take Classics are awesome speakers for their price, they are small satellites so there's no getting around that they're not going to be able to fill a big space as well as proper bookshelves or floorstanders. If you're only going to listening at low to moderate volumes, the Take Classics will do just fine. If you're inclined to crank it up, then upgrading is certainly something to consider. Also, there's no denying that the RC-series is superior in terms of SQ in general.
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I´m thinking on buying 2x RC-10´s and make the whole system 7.1 and change the center speaker for a RC-Mini or something like that.[...] is this idea ok?

That's a very good idea if you're looking to upgrade, certainly. The Takes will do just fine with surround duty, although you may get the itch to upgrade those (to some RC-minis perhaps) after you've heard the difference with the RC-10s up front.

My advice would be to do the opposite of what I did: give the Take Classics a good audition (make sure to let them go through their 50-hour break-in before getting serious) before upgrading. You may discover that they're quite sufficient for what you need and you can save your money for other things. However, if you're looking to blow that money on upgrading your sound system in any case, going to the RC-10s is absolutely a great way to start.
post #16230 of 47788
20 x 19 is pretty good sized room. I'd imagine that going to bookshelves or even better, some towers would be very beneficial.
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