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post #20791 of 47661
9/6/10 at 9:22pm
I've been looking to upgrade my speakers. I currently have an assortment of JBL Studio series speakers. 4 JBL S36II's and 1 JBL S-center. Would I be able to get away with using the JBL S-center with the Energy RC-50s? Not sure I want to pay the $600 the RC-LCR seems to be going for.
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post #20792 of 47661
9/6/10 at 9:34pm
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Originally Posted by YOTR View Post

Well I fell into some amazing luck today. A local store is clearing out the RC-70s for an unbelievable price (had one pair left). I wasn't looking to upgrade as my RC-30's from AA literally 30 days old. I honestly can't pass up on this deal so I am going to pull the trigger . I also scored an extra mint like new RC-LCR in black with all the original packaging. It is flawless and basically brand new. Of course I find an RC-LCR after I order one from Canada, lol .

So in case anyone is looking for a mint like new RC-LCR in black with all original packaging or a pair of mint like new RC-30s with all original packaging, just shoot me a PM. I would prefer to sell them locally but would consider shipping them. I really don't want to go the Ebay route and would rather help out a fellow AVS member. I live in Fort Worth, Texas by the way. Thanks!

Hey YOTR I'm in N. Fort Worth (35 and Heritage Trace)...while I would love to have you 30's and LCR. Neither of those are "wife friendly" at my house but I'm curious about the store as I'm in search of something smaller like cb-10's or 5's!
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post #20793 of 47661
9/6/10 at 10:34pm
Looks like monoprice has had some speaker banana plugs on sale the last couple of days. Here's a slickdeals link that has the monoprice link and some Nagamichi ebay links on the 2nd page for anybody that may need them.

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthr...7581&t=2220748
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post #20794 of 47661
9/6/10 at 11:19pm
Hey Energy Gang I too have joined the party and all your advice has been instrumental in my decisions...Thank-you ...now have the RC-10's, RC-LCR and ESW-V10 but I'm wondering if I should put the RC-50's or RC-70's up front R and L....some I have read when putting them up against each other if they close their eyes they can't hear or can barely hear the difference...does one blend across the front with the RC-LCR than the other...this is after all comparing a 2-way to a 3-way where the mid-range must have more presence... so is this so... has anyone done the blind side by side test and is the serious cost difference worth it...thanks again for your help...Max













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post #20795 of 47661
9/6/10 at 11:42pm
I have been the proud owner of a set of Veritas speakers...
v2.0C
v2.2i as mains
v2.1i as rears

I got them from my brother who has had them since their release 10+ years ago, and am now donating them to his new home theater.

I am now in a small condo with a small budget, looking to replace them with something more economically priced.

I am eyeing the Swan Diva line; a 5 channel set of the "5.0" line can be had for $1299 which seems promising.

I loved the unique sound of my Veritas... Any suggestions for a budget 5 channel set that I may like?

It would take me a couple months to afford the $1299 Swans but that's where I'm aiming right now...

Also looking to possibly Amp my selection with an Emotiva XPA-5 in the future using my Denon as the processor.

So, any suggestions for someone with a low budget? =)
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post #20796 of 47661
9/7/10 at 5:47am
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Originally Posted by mphfrom77 View Post

Have you seen if any members on here, who might be interested in your 30's, live close to you?

I haven't actually hehe. If anybody is in the Baltimore area and would like a pair of RC-30s or 10s I have both and I could sell one!
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post #20797 of 47661
9/7/10 at 6:10am
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Originally Posted by TheStick View Post

Hey YOTR I'm in N. Fort Worth (35 and Heritage Trace)...while I would love to have you 30's and LCR. Neither of those are "wife friendly" at my house but I'm curious about the store as I'm in search of something smaller like cb-10's or 5's!

You are only 10 minutes from me. I go to that BB at Heritage Trace quite a bit to cash out reward zone certificates. You should come over and audition them and maybe you can convince your wife after the purchase . I got them at Modia. They actually don't normally carry Energy speakers (or at least that's what the sales guy said). He honestly was shocked they had this pair sitting out as he couldn't remember selling any RC speakers recently (don't know if it was a store transfer/overstock maybe from another store). Strange but I wasn't about to pass up the deal. I payed and got out of there as soon as possible. It might be worth a call though to see if they have any of the other Energy speaker lines for sale.

Seriously though I was in the same boat because we have a small living room and two little ones running around. My wife didn't want me to get them because she thought they would be to overpowering for the room (visually more than anything). Funny thing is once I set them up, she was actually impressed with them and liked how they looked like a piece of furniture more than a looming/large speaker. I am not trying to convince you but thought I would mention that.
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post #20798 of 47661
9/7/10 at 6:24am
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Originally Posted by maxtimein View Post

Hey Energy Gang I too have joined the party and all your advice has been instrumental in my decisions...Thank-you ...now have the RC-10's, RC-LCR and ESW-V10 but I'm wondering if I should put the RC-50's or RC-70's up front R and L....some I have read when putting them up against each other if they close their eyes they can't hear or can barely hear the difference...does one blend across the front with the RC-LCR than the other...this is after all comparing a 2-way to a 3-way where the mid-range must have more presence... so is this so... has anyone done the blind side by side test and is the serious cost difference worth it...thanks again for your help...Max

Ok I will take a crack at this one. I am only going to compare the RC-10's to the RC-70's because I am more familar with them. First off can you tell a difference? Yes. The RC-10's are good speakers but they are not out of this world either. The main thing that the RC-10 provides is the same tweeter as the RC-70 so the high end pretty much sounds about the same, but the midrange and low end is a good bit different. The midrange overall sounds richer on the RC-70's... it hard to describe but to me it just sounds better. Now on the low end is where you see the biggest differences. I only used the RC-10's for fronts for a short period of time, but you need to cross them over pretty high overall for it to sound ok. In my case it was around the 110 to 120 hz range that seemed to be about right. The RC-70's you can truely use as full range speakers if you wanted to even though they start to roll off pretty quickly after 80 hz... so depending on how your sub sounds you can always cross it over between 60 to 80 hz. In my case I use a Rythmik F12SE and it seems to blend perfectly with it crossed over at 80 hz but I have never tried that sub with the RC-10's. You can still run music in all channel stereo without it sounding bad, but you definitely can tell that the RC-70's and RC-LCR are better overall. Right now I am using my RC-10's as rear surrounds and I have no complaints on the role they fill.
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post #20799 of 47661
9/7/10 at 6:43am
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Originally Posted by Bravo1 View Post

Ok I will take a crack at this one. I am only going to compare the RC-10's to the RC-70's because I am more familar with them. First off can you tell a difference? Yes. The RC-10's are good speakers but they are not out of this world either. The main thing that the RC-10 provides is the same tweeter as the RC-70 so the high end pretty much sounds about the same, but the midrange and low end is a good bit different. The midrange overall sounds richer on the RC-70's... it hard to describe but to me it just sounds better. Now on the low end is where you see the biggest differences. I only used the RC-10's for fronts for a short period of time, but you need to cross them over pretty high overall for it to sound ok. In my case it was around the 110 to 120 hz range that seemed to be about right. The RC-70's you can truely use as full range speakers if you wanted to even though they start to roll off pretty quickly after 80 hz... so depending on how your sub sounds you can always cross it over between 60 to 80 hz. In my case I use a Rythmik F12SE and it seems to blend perfectly with it crossed over at 80 hz but I have never tried that sub with the RC-10's. You can still run music in all channel stereo without it sounding bad, but you definitely can tell that the RC-70's and RC-LCR are better overall. Right now I am using my RC-10's as rear surrounds and I have no complaints on the role they fill.

There is also a good comparison between RC-50 and RC-70 by generalhead here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post18886861.

I was contemplating the same thing this weekend and have decided to resist the RC-50 sales and go for the RC-70. Most of the comments I've seen see that the midrange woofer on the RC-70 really separates it from the RC-50. My thinking was that if I went for the RC-50s, I'd be left wanting the RC-70s later.
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post #20800 of 47661
9/7/10 at 7:27am
I tried searching for my question and came up empty. Please direct me if I've overlooked a previous discussion.

Here's what I'm working with:
-RC-30s (fronts)
-RC-mini CC
-Take Sats (surrounds)
-HSU STF-2
-Pio VSX-1120

Should I set the RC-30s to large or small? What crossover do you recommend? Please be aware that the 1120 has a feature that allows me to set the fronts to large and the sub to "plus" which employs the sub continuously. My concern is that if I set my RC-30s to small then I'll be losing everything they offer on the lower end. Part of me is thinking why the heck did I buys these RC-30s if I'm going to handicap them but setting to small? I should have just gotten RC-minis in that case. Maybe the RC-30s shine for music playback? Please help.

I'm a rookie over here so poke holes in my logic please. I'm looking to learn.
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post #20801 of 47661
9/7/10 at 7:45am
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Originally Posted by Silk222 View Post

I tried searching for my question and came up empty. Please direct me if I've overlooked a previous discussion.

Here's what I'm working with:
-RC-30s (fronts)
-RC-mini CC
-Take Sats (surrounds)
-HSU STF-2
-Pio VSX-1120

Should I set the RC-30s to large or small? What crossover do you recommend? Please be aware that the 1120 has a feature that allows me to set the fronts to large and the sub to "plus" which employs the sub continuously. My concern is that if I set my RC-30s to small then I'll be losing everything they offer on the lower end. Part of me is thinking why the heck did I buys these RC-30s if I'm going to handicap them but setting to small? I should have just gotten RC-minis in that case. Maybe the RC-30s shine for music playback? Please help.

I'm a rookie over here so poke holes in my logic please. I'm looking to learn.

Don't think of small as a reference to speaker size, it was a poor choice of terminology by the industry. Small just means you want to set a crossover so that lower frequencies are redirected to a dedicated sub. So you won't be losing anything, just the lower frequencies will be played by your sub instead of the RC-30s. I think most people set the crossover for the 30's around 80 Hz. Experiment to see what sounds best to you.
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post #20802 of 47661
9/7/10 at 8:05am
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Originally Posted by Silk222 View Post

I tried searching for my question and came up empty. Please direct me if I've overlooked a previous discussion.

Here's what I'm working with:
-RC-30s (fronts)
-RC-mini CC
-Take Sats (surrounds)
-HSU STF-2
-Pio VSX-1120

Should I set the RC-30s to large or small? What crossover do you recommend? Please be aware that the 1120 has a feature that allows me to set the fronts to large and the sub to "plus" which employs the sub continuously. My concern is that if I set my RC-30s to small then I'll be losing everything they offer on the lower end. Part of me is thinking why the heck did I buys these RC-30s if I'm going to handicap them but setting to small? I should have just gotten RC-minis in that case. Maybe the RC-30s shine for music playback? Please help.

I'm a rookie over here so poke holes in my logic please. I'm looking to learn.

The RC-30's only have 5.25 inch speakers as their drivers and there is a limit to how low they can go. Considering that the RC-10's go to about 110 to 120 hz I would say that the RC-30's would be good around 100 hz given the enclosure and multiple drivers. Let the sub do its job and don't worry about the termilogy. My RC-70's would be considered small on your receiver as well, so don't let that get in your way. Experiment and see what works best.

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Originally Posted by compressedair View Post

There is also a good comparison between RC-50 and RC-70 by generalhead here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post18886861.

I was contemplating the same thing this weekend and have decided to resist the RC-50 sales and go for the RC-70. Most of the comments I've seen see that the midrange woofer on the RC-70 really separates it from the RC-50. My thinking was that if I went for the RC-50s, I'd be left wanting the RC-70s later.

I got my RC-70's for about $470 each so in my case the decision was easy. But if I had to pay full price for these I would maybe look at other options as there is alot of stuff out there. But given that it seems like Energy is going to be getting rid of the RC line or come out with something to replace it, I would expect the RC-70's to get discounted pretty heavily soon as well.
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post #20803 of 47661
9/7/10 at 8:16am
Question regarding my satellite speakers. I currently have...

RC-50's Left and Right
RC-LCR Center Channel
Klipsch Quintet III's as surrounds

I only use the surrounds for movies (2.1 for music). Wondering if it's worth upgrading my surrounds to the RC-Mini's? They're so damn cheap right now I've been contemplating it, but I'm unsure if the "upgrade" would be worth the expense considering I'm pretty happy with the way it sounds now.

Any advice would be appreciated!
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post #20804 of 47661
9/7/10 at 8:47am
Gosh....I have a good deal on the following:

2 - ENERGY V2.4i Veritas Black
4 - ENERGY V2.3WM-SK 3-Way In-Wall Speaker

All I have at the moment is a set of RC30's I bought from AA that have maybe an hour on it. Just not sure if they are all worth buying? Maybe just the V2.4's? My plan was to use RC30s, with LCR center and RC10's for surrounds in my 7.1 setup.
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post #20805 of 47661
9/7/10 at 8:51am
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Originally Posted by SmoothOperator_r View Post

Question regarding my satellite speakers. I currently have...

RC-50's Left and Right
RC-LCR Center Channel
Klipsch Quintet III's as surrounds

I only use the surrounds for movies (2.1 for music). Wondering if it's worth upgrading my surrounds to the RC-Mini's? They're so damn cheap right now I've been contemplating it, but I'm unsure if the "upgrade" would be worth the expense considering I'm pretty happy with the way it sounds now.

Any advice would be appreciated!

Well I was typing up a response asking if you had a sub, but then I saw that you have a 2.1 setup. So what do you have for a sub? Also how much can you get the RC Micro's for and would they be on stands or on the wall? Personally I would go with RC-10 if you are using stands as you can start doing all channel stereo with that.
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post #20806 of 47661
9/7/10 at 8:54am
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Originally Posted by Bravo1 View Post

Well I was typing up a response asking if you had a sub, but then I saw that you have a 2.1 setup. So what do you have for a sub? Also how much can you get the RC Micro's for and would they be on stands or on the wall? Personally I would go with RC-10 if you are using stands as you can start doing all channel stereo with that.

Hey Bravo1,
I'm actually looking at the RC-Mini's. They're going for $130 CAD Each at Futureshop here in Canada (off topic, but the RC-R is going for $199 Each!). They'd be on the wall.

Currently using a klipsch Sub-10 that I purchased along with the Quintet III's a couple years ago. Suits my room just fine for now. Will upgrade once I move out of my apartment.
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post #20807 of 47661
9/7/10 at 9:24am
Hi all,

First post... I am curious on opinions on the Energy CF-70s and CF-50s as well as the CC-10 for the center. Will be use for 50% music and 50% home theater. Unfortunately there is really no place to listen.

I plan to use with an older M&K sub, Niles Audio CM730DSFX in ceilings in the rear. Will be used with a Denon AVR-3311CI receiver. This is in the family ( roughly 20' x 25`).

I had an OLD pair of Energy Conniseur C-8s that I thought were very good. The prices seem decent for the RC series as well.
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post #20808 of 47661
9/7/10 at 10:32am
the newer "connoisseurs" (like the CF-50) are now the entry-level, they will not be as good as your C-8's. If you are looking for that type of quality, jump on some of the closeout pricing on the "Reference Connoisseurs" (RC line) which is the actual descendant of your old C-8's.

the RC-50's would make a nice start at the awesome pricing available now. If the budget is limited, you can still get away with the CC-10 as the center since the RC-LCR is rare (and expensive) and it will blend well enough for movies (especially with MultEQ XT on your Denon 3311), but for 2-ch music the difference with the RC's will be big.
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post #20809 of 47661
9/7/10 at 10:49am
I have a couple of quick questions regarding my RC-30's if you all wouldn't mind.

I am trying to decide on a center channel and the RC-LCR is just out of my price range so I am looking at the CC-10 or the RC Mini Center. Would the CC-10 match up well enough with the RC-30? I noticed it has the same sized tweeter as the Mini but slightly larger woofers (5.5" vs 4.5" for the Mini). It also seems to be a little more solid weighing in at 17lbs vs 9 for the Mini. If the CC-10 does match is it much of an upgrade over the Mini center? The 25 dollar price difference is pretty negligible.

Also a question on setting my RC-30's to "small" or "large?" (my Onkyo NR807 gets delivered today so I have not played with the setup yet) I do not yet have a subwoofer, that is coming a bit later; I read above that setting the speaker setting to small allows the cross over to happen so that the lower frequency is pushed to the sub. With no sub at this time, am I better of for now setting the RC-30's to large?

Thanks for the help

-Drew
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post #20810 of 47661
9/7/10 at 11:00am
I haven't heard the CC-10 so I cannot comment but I am using the RC-mini CC with my RC-30s and I think it sounds great. Dialogue is crisp and clear. I was worried about it not being enough but I've pushed it pretty hard without any complaints at all. I'm extremely happy with it for my use case.
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post #20811 of 47661
9/7/10 at 11:01am
with no subwoofer, you HAVE TO leave the RC-30's as full range. "small" isn't even an option.

CC-10 vs. RC-Mini is a quantity vs. quality question. Big room, loud volumes, looking for HT boom boom? Go with the CC-10. Smaller room, moderate volumes, not going to push things to extremes? Go with the RC-Mini CC.

In most "real world" situations, the RC-Mini CC will be plenty.
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post #20812 of 47661
9/7/10 at 12:32pm
I've noticed a few people have used the Mirage OMD-C1 center with the RC towers. I've never heard the Mirage center myself but I'm curious how well it would work for those of you with RC towers.

Mirage and Energy are sister companies but their technology is different. Who knows how well it will work? Maybe the center would be a good match.
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search

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mirage omd-c1 (July 12, 2010)
Ease of Use (5/5.0)
Value (5/5.0)
Performance (5/5.0)
Overall Rating (5/5.0)

Reviewed By: john b. - fountain, colorado

The OMD-C1 is the perfect match to my Energy RC-70 towers! I imagine this center channel speaker matching well with many high end speakers. The Rosewood finish is absolutely spectacular. The binding posts, build quality, fit and finish are just beautiful. This is a very well made speaker, and the price is incredible. Vanns service, delivery and packing were top notch as well.
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post #20813 of 47661
9/7/10 at 12:48pm
That would be great to know because that is a seriously good price.
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post #20814 of 47661
9/7/10 at 12:55pm
While we're talking about the OMDs, how do the OMD-15s compare to the Energy RC-50s?
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post #20815 of 47661
9/7/10 at 2:26pm
does anyone know if my sony SA-W3000 subwoofer is a good pairing for the Energy RC-10's? My room is 10x12 so its very small. Would i hear any difference if i got a better subwoofer? What subwoofer would you recommend that cost between $100-$225?


my setup is

RC-10's
Subwoofer: sony SA-W3000
Receiver: Yamaha RX-V559
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post #20816 of 47661
9/7/10 at 3:49pm
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

I've noticed a few people have used the Mirage OMD-C1 center with the RC towers. I've never heard the Mirage center myself but I'm curious how well it would work for those of you with RC towers.

Mirage and Energy are sister companies but their technology is different. Who knows how well it will work? Maybe the center would be a good match.
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search

I've wondered this too... and came so close to pulling the trigger on an open box OMD-C1 from Vann's on 2 occasions.

What held me back was just knowing I wouldn't have timbre matched speakers...

I compared the OMD-5 and RC-10 at one point... level matched A/B comparison... and to me, they had a very different sound.

I just have a tough time thinking the OMD-C1 will match with the RC-10 any better... although I suppose Audyssey might help...

Still, from the OMD-5/RC-10 comparison... I keep thinking the OMD-C1 would be a clearer sounding center than the RC-LCR.
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post #20817 of 47661
9/7/10 at 4:19pm
I'm having a problem with a tweeter in one of my rc-30s. It's way quieter than the other, and after listening for a while it will start to distort really heavily and even cut in and out. Wiring is all good, tried with the straps and bi-wiring, and it's the same problem. Does this tweeter sound like it's defective, or is there maybe a problem with its connections inside the speaker?

edit: took out the tweeter and all looks good...guess I'll get in touch with energy about it.
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post #20818 of 47661
9/7/10 at 10:51pm
Well, anybody looking for an RC-LCR for their center channel may want to check this out! I figured I would throw it on here before I put it on Audiogon. I have a Veritas V2.0Ci in great condition available for sale. This bad boy makes the RC-LCR look small. It is over an inch higher, over 2 inches deeper and 3 1/2 inches wider.... This bad boy weighs 39 pounds, the RC-LCR only 24 pounds.

I hooked it up in my system between my RC-30 fronts and thought it sounded great! As far the tonal match when watching movies; I could not detect any distracting shifts. In fact when I was playing the pink noise test tones between the channels, I thought it actually seemed to be a better match with the RC-30s than the RC-LCR did. It has two 6 1/2 Dual Hyperdrive Woofers and a 1 inch Aluminum Dome Tweeter in the convergent source module configuration. It has the high gloss black finish and amazingly it is free of the excessive scratches which can plague this type of finish.

Looking for $399 shipped OBO.....
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post #20819 of 47661
9/7/10 at 11:34pm
FYI, ebay RC-50 deal is legit. WWStereo just shipped (Friday delivery!) my 2 speakers today w/ Factory Warranty!
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post #20820 of 47661
9/8/10 at 1:16am
I asked the question,was the ebay deal for the pair of RC50 legit a few pages back.I am glad to see that it is.now if they would only put the RC70's on sale at such a large discount.I have heard the RC70's and they sound great,i dont no how much different the RC50's sound is but i would hate to pick up a pair only to have the 70's go on sale a month later.
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