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post #21661 of 51590
SOLD!

Well, I have my excellent Veritas V2.0R surround speakers for sale... Priced to move! Looking for $299 shipped for them. They are in good shape with only a couple of small marks or blemishes on the front grills. These are big surrounds with a 6 1/2 inch dual hyperdrive woofer, 1 inch aluminum dome tweeter, two 3 inch mid-band fill drivers and a shipped weight of 38 pounds. They sound great and obviously feature the soundfield management system which provides even more flexibility than the current RC-Rs in that the V2.0r's also offer a special corner mode placement option. This is in addition to the dipole, bipole mid-driver phase and volume options. I will also throw in a pair of heavy duty adjustable angle mounting brackets for these speakers. The prior owner of these surrounds preferred using these instead of the standard Veritas keyhole mounting slots on the back of these speakers. Drop me a line for more photos and info...
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post #21662 of 51590
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Originally Posted by patrick wright View Post

thats guys, I have to make a decision here??? RC-10's or RCR's?? I do like to look of the 10 better but the sound im sure would go to the RCR's as surrounds

If you're specifically using them as surrounds I'd go with RC-R's. You have the flexibility of using bipole/dipole or use it in direct fire mode just like an RC-10. Also, wall mounting RC-R is easier due to included mounts.
post #21663 of 51590
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Originally Posted by deano86 View Post

Well, I have my excellent Veritas V2.0R surround speakers for sale... Priced to move! Looking for $299 shipped for them. They are in good shape with only a couple of small marks or blemishes on the front grills. These are big surrounds with a 6 1/2 inch dual hyperdrive woofer, 1 inch aluminum dome tweeter, two 3 inch mid-band fill drivers and a shipped weight of 38 pounds. They sound great and obviously feature the soundfield management system which provides even more flexibility than the current RC-Rs in that the V2.0r's also offer a special corner mode placement option. This is in addition to the dipole, bipole mid-driver phase and volume options. I will also throw in a pair of heavy duty adjustable angle mounting brackets for these speakers. The prior owner of these surrounds preferred using these instead of the standard Veritas keyhole mounting slots on the back of these speakers. Drop me a line for more photos and info...

So you're saying I could have had the Veritas surrounds for $80 less than what I paid for the RCR's?

This is killin' me!
post #21664 of 51590
What is the best way to mount a pair of RC-1s0 on a wall? They have the threaded insert and I have seen the API Macromount. Although when I spoke to someone who sold the Marcomount he thought the speakers may be too big. They weigh around 25 lbs. They will be fairly high up so I will need them to tilt down. That may be a problem since it look like the mount does not get them that far away from the wall.

Thanks
post #21665 of 51590
In looking at the tweeters in my rc-30s, there seem to be some faint very fine lines, or marks on them. Is this "normal" or something to worry about.
post #21666 of 51590
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Originally Posted by OmegaR3D View Post

If you're specifically using them as surrounds I'd go with RC-R's. You have the flexibility of using bipole/dipole or use it in direct fire mode just like an RC-10. Also, wall mounting RC-R is easier due to included mounts.

yes i plan on using rc10's as surround (or back surrounds)...I guess the RCR's would be more flexible for placement and they could go on the wall nicely but even at that Buy.com price thats a bit more than a set of rc10's, now is it worth the extra $100 or so??
post #21667 of 51590
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

If you have a few feet away from the listening position for the RC-10s, they are great as surrounds. I'm using 5 RC-10s in a bedroom system and they sound terrific.

Yes, in fact that exactly how I use them right now, my rc10's are on stands about 1.5' behind my couch...I need another set as side surrounds or RCR's. For some reason even though all my speakers are black I wanted one set of Rosenut or Cherries for surround (back surrounds) for the rear...ive got some funiture that could match....

Anyone run any mixed finishes on thier RC's??? what do you think?
post #21668 of 51590
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Originally Posted by belkur View Post

What is the best way to mount a pair of RC-1s0 on a wall? They have the threaded insert and I have seen the API Macromount. Although when I spoke to someone who sold the Marcomount he thought the speakers may be too big. They weigh around 25 lbs. They will be fairly high up so I will need them to tilt down. That may be a problem since it look like the mount does not get them that far away from the wall.

Thanks

RC-10s only weigh 12-13 lbs each. I know, I own a pair. The API macromount is made specifically for Energy, Mirage and Athena bookshelf speakers.
post #21669 of 51590
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Originally Posted by belkur View Post

What is the best way to mount a pair of RC-1s0 on a wall? They have the threaded insert and I have seen the API Macromount. Although when I spoke to someone who sold the Marcomount he thought the speakers may be too big. They weigh around 25 lbs. They will be fairly high up so I will need them to tilt down. That may be a problem since it look like the mount does not get them that far away from the wall.

Thanks

The Macromounts will work just fine for them. It will fasten to the threaded insert of the RC-10 and you will be able to tilt them down nicely. The RC-10 only weighs about 12 pounds.... it seems that many published specs for this model always show the shipped weight for the pair for some reason. Another option, is the Omnimount 20.0 model. I have used both mounts. The Macromount is a very nice and secure mount. The Omnimount seems to have lesser appeal, for some reason, but it has always worked just fine for me. In fact from my experience, the Omnimount has a slightly wider range of adjustment than the Macromount. Either one will work great for you....
post #21670 of 51590
I see Macromounts sold in differnt places with different names API - Macromount - Mirage Macromount - although they look the same. Do you know which one will definately work with RC-10?

Thanks
post #21671 of 51590
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Originally Posted by patrick wright View Post

yes i plan on using rc10's as surround (or back surrounds)...I guess the RCR's would be more flexible for placement and they could go on the wall nicely but even at that Buy.com price thats a bit more than a set of rc10's, now is it worth the extra $100 or so??

If you would have a mix of RC-10/RC-R then I wouldn't bother, just go with 4 RC-10's. Using the RC-R as bipole/dipole is really only useful in 5.1 as they more or less emulate the 7.1 soundfield.
post #21672 of 51590
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Originally Posted by belkur View Post

I see Macromounts sold in differnt places with different names API - Macromount - Mirage Macromount - although they look the same. Do you know which one will definately work with RC-10?

Thanks

All of them. API is the original parent company of Athena, Energy and Mirage. All the macromounts are the same except for color. All use 3/8" 16 thread insert. The RC-10 speaker has the hole specifically for that size thread.
post #21673 of 51590
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Originally Posted by deano86 View Post

Well, I have my excellent Veritas V2.0R surround speakers for sale... Priced to move! Looking for $299 shipped for them. ...

Hi, deano86: I'm not potential buyer, but do you mind if I ask what brackets are they? I'm looking for brackets to potentially tilt down my RC-R's a little more.

BTW, really sweet speakers. I got two Veritas 2.0CM inceilings, and to me they sound fantastic, with more clarify, detail and smoothness than the RC-R's. It's a shame the better speaker line in my system is used as the back surrounds.

Thanks.
post #21674 of 51590
It seems that the macromount in black is discontinued.

I believe that the omnimount 20 is the only one that will work because it uses a 3/8 - 16 bolts.

You will be able to get full 45 degrees pan from side to side w/ the 20. The omnimount 20 extends the speaker 4" away from the wall. I don't know how much motion you can get out of the macromount. I wanted to get more because I have my couch right against the wall where the speakers will be mounted.
post #21675 of 51590
I love my omni mounts.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=10652344

I have all 4 of my RC-10's hanging from the ceiling using these mounts. I will have to take some pictures and post if you guys want?
post #21676 of 51590
I am interested but it isn't necessary. I have my heart set on mounting them about 1-2 feet above the listener.

I really wanted to get the speaker turned, maybe to 75 degrees so it points at the listener however, I may not have that option with a wall mount. (ceiling I would). I may have to pull the couch away from the wall a touch. First, I must convince the G/F.
post #21677 of 51590
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Originally Posted by jjmbxkb View Post

Hi, deano86: I'm not potential buyer, but do you mind if I ask what brackets are they? I'm looking for brackets to potentially tilt down my RC-R's a little more.

BTW, really sweet speakers. I got two Veritas 2.0CM inceilings, and to me they sound fantastic, with more clarify, detail and smoothness than the RC-R's. It's a shame the better speaker line in my system is used as the back surrounds.

Thanks.

You know, I didn't really notice them being of a particular brand. I will take another look at them when I get home though.... They would attach to the back of the surround with 4 small wood screws and they have 2 slots for bolts to fasten to your wall stud. Then there is just a wingnut type screw for tightening your tilt angle; either up or down. Its a nice heavy duty bracket rated I think for up to 50 pounds....They may be available for sale if a buyer for the surrounds doesn't need them. I can forward you some photos and dimensions if you like.. just drop me a PM with your email..
post #21678 of 51590
deano86, PM sent with some questions.

For all, some questions on macromounts:

- How much tilting down does macromount allow?
- Since at least on one side I will miss the stud, I prefer to have the bottom of the RC-R resting on the wall. It is possible with macromounts?

Thanks.
post #21679 of 51590
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Originally Posted by jjmbxkb View Post

deano86, PM sent with some questions.

For all, some questions on macromounts:

- How much tilting down does macromount allow?
- Since at least on one side I will miss the stud, I prefer to have the bottom of the RC-R resting on the wall. It is possible with macromounts?

Thanks.

Just wanted to say your home theater is bad ass.
post #21680 of 51590
Yes - I would like to see it.
post #21681 of 51590
I'm doing a little rearranging and wondering how close I can safely place my RC-50s to my wood stove which I use throughout the winter. Any ideas? I don't want to damage the veneer but the closer to the stove, the wider I can separate the speakers.
post #21682 of 51590
Remedy1978, thanks very much. Appreciate your generous words.

I flushed mounted the RC-R's using the wall bracket that came with them, but wish I had not had to mount them so high (WAF). So I would like to try a mount that allows more tilt. Anyone with macromounts know 1) how much tilting can I get from it; 2) Does it allow RC-R's bottom to rest on the wall (since I may not get studs on both sides)?

Thanks in advance.
post #21683 of 51590
It will depend on how hot the stove gets. Place the speakers where you want them and get the stove running as hot as it gets. Feel the speaker side nearest the stove after a short time and every 10 min until it is as hot as it will get. If it gets more than warm, move them away further. Wood (and I'm sure at least part of the speaker is real wood) will dry out and shrink if heated. Any distortion of the cabinet or bracings will possibly cause different resonances than those in the speaker now, and change the frequency response.

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Originally Posted by EnergyOwner View Post

I'm doing a little rearranging and wondering how close I can safely place my RC-50s to my wood stove which I use throughout the winter. Any ideas? I don't want to damage the veneer but the closer to the stove, the wider I can separate the speakers.
post #21684 of 51590
Another option for speaker mounting that I came across. Plenty of Pan not a lot of tilt so you would need to go with mounting them just a couple of feet above the head of the listener (which is recommended anyway) These can be had from J&R Electronics either through Amazon or directly. I ran accross a review from someone that used these for C-100 with no issues. I have CB5's for rears so these will fit the bill.

http://pinpointmounts.com/am40.html
post #21685 of 51590
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Originally Posted by jjmbxkb View Post

I flushed mounted the RC-R's using the wall bracket that came with them, but wish I had not had to mount them so high (WAF)...

Wow, talk about deja vu. Just had the same situation last night in my house!

I had the RCR's flush mounted about one foot above ear level on the back wall behind the couch and along comes the wife saying "Those stick out too much, it look s like a bachelor pad in here. Those have to be moved."

So in hopes of not ticking her off too much so I can continue to add to my A/V collection in the future, I had to move them much higher than originally desired and onto the side walls.

Would love to hear any good ideas for getting these things to tilt down just a bit.

Also, I have to say that your theater setup is a thing of beauty. I have a pretty similar speaker setup with 50's, RCR's, Mirage OMD-C1, and an eD A2-300...but the similarities end there. I love your layout as well as the future proofing you did with the 11.2. I'd shake your hand if I could. Job well done sir.
post #21686 of 51590
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Originally Posted by DAC21 View Post

Another option for speaker mounting that I came across. Plenty of Pan not a lot of tilt so you would need to go with mounting them just a couple of feet above the head of the listener (which is recommended anyway) These can be had from J&R Electronics either through Amazon or directly. I ran accross a review from someone that used these for C-100 with no issues. I have CB5's for rears so these will fit the bill.

http://pinpointmounts.com/am40.html


I really like this option. I might be going for it. Thanks for posting it. I am assuming that it wouldn't be worse for sound quality than screwing into the back of the speaker. It should be pretty firm.
post #21687 of 51590
Hi, bwillberg266: Thanks very much for your props. It's work in progess at the best.

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Originally Posted by bwilberg266 View Post

... So in hopes of not ticking her off too much so I can continue to add to my A/V collection in the future, I had to move them much higher than originally desired and onto the side walls.

In my case, I had to mount them at the same level as wall scones.

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Would love to hear any good ideas for getting these things to tilt down just a bit.

+1. Anyone with experience on Macromounts or others used on RC-R's, we appreciate your help.
post #21688 of 51590
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Originally Posted by PS3 Lagerman View Post

I really like this option. I might be going for it. Thanks for posting it. I am assuming that it wouldn't be worse for sound quality than screwing into the back of the speaker. It should be pretty firm.

Good question, I can't answer if the this mounting type could effect sound quality. I can say that there are a lot of Happy Campers based on the Amazon reviews.
post #21689 of 51590
Are the new Veritas V-Minis Veritas in name only? Price wise they're retailing for what the RC-minis used to cost, figure it's identical otherwise

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/produ...6b0943b523en02
post #21690 of 51590
Same 4.5" kevlar woofer, 1" aluminum dome tweeter, 5lbs weight, similar dimensions.

I'd try to track down the discounted RC Minis until somebody does a comparison showing the new V-mini is significantly better.
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