Energy Owners Thread - Page 774

The RC70's don't struggle, and my subs do a great job.
I should add that my 70's are powered by an Emotiva XPA-2, so there's plenty (and I do mean plenty) of power for them.
That, of course, could also be a factor in how a particular system might perform.
One reason for lack of performance way down low is lack of sufficient power.

Let me rephrase that, because of the significantly larger driver, and ability of a subwoofer to play much lower. It will probably play cleaner, and louder at lower frequencies, and me much more comfortable with deeper bass. Assuming, that your subwoofer is up to par though. Obviously, if you're using a cheaper sub like an esw-8 8" subwoofer you may want more bass to be handled by the speakers.

How exactly did you go about getting them for $249? Did you just ask Randy if he'd do $249?

I've gotten lower prices from Vanns on Energy speakers just by asking. You really have nothing to lose by trying. Just ask them how low they can go on the speaker. It really is that simple, Vanns has great customer service.

I remember I had a guy do that on a CC-10 center. He got it for $199 vs the $299 posted price.

Gotcha. Just checking to see if there was a sale I missed recently that I could reference. Think I'll get an additional RC-50 for my center instead of a 30.

i have to say i had my rc50 set tosmall on my onkyo 608 and i have a 300 watt amlified subwoofer. i lost a lot a bass from the towers and a dvd movie didnt sound that good. i went back in the onkyo and set the rc 50 to full and watched the same movie and the towers were totally different sounding full and powerfull. i have a question should i set my center and surrounds to 80 hz like the towers and sub they are at 10 hz now.also have to mention called vanns today and got thr energy cc 10 center for 199.99 on order very simple just ask for lower price

Nice article about small vs. large.

http://www.audyssey.com/blog/2009/05/small-vs-large/

Well, I'm not going to argue with those guys I suggested trying Large because it seemed to make a kind of horse-sense: my receiver's manual says it sets the crossover at 100Hz for Small speakers, and one of the reasons why I was thrilled to nab two of the last RC-10s from Vann's was the surprisingly heavy bass response they can deliver... so it seemed like a waste to divert everything under 100Hz to the big guy in the corner. I do understand that crossovers are more like hills than cliff-sides.

I'll say this: I've set my RC-10 mains to Large and Small, and convinced myself in both cases that THIS was the "true" sound. After running them Large all weekend, and coming home minutes ago to try Small, the bass seems too heavy. But this seems like a well-worn disagreement that has already been resolved. Maybe I'll just roll the sub's volume down a little.

Here's another article on bass management:
http://www.audioholics.com/tweaks/ge...st-performance

I set my Jamo E680 towers to small and 60hz crossover. They've got two larger 8" drivers and do a good job in that range. Audyssey set it to LARGE and 40hz and I changed it to SMALL and 60hz. My Jamo center and E660 surround are set to 80hz.

My bedroom system consists of RC-10s and an RC LCR up front. I set all those to SMALL and 80hz.

Both systems have Energy 10" subs. One is a s10.3 and the other e:XLs-10 or something like that. its an older sub.

The links you see are guidelines and the reasoning behind it. But in the end it is still your system and you can experiment with different settings if you wish.

Nothing is set in stone here.

I just picked up a pair of RC-50's and I cant decide which center to go with. Should I go with the RC mini, cc-10 or RC LCR. The LCR is $449 at Vanns and I dont know if I can swing that right now and im afraid if I dont get it now I will never get it. The rc mini is a great price right now ($130) but will it be able to handle the 50's. I am not hearing good things about the cc-10 but that what someone at Vanns said I should go with. I currently have Polk monitor 70's and Polk cs-20. How do the Energy's compare? Thanks,Tim

Tim, the RC-LCR is out of stock at Vanns. As far as I know, eBay is the only place where you can buy one. A lot of people are selling the LCRs they bought from Woot. I think a couple of them are even listed on Amazon.

From what I have read in this thread so far, the LCR is the best center for the RC-50s, but some folks are using the RC-mini as well... some of them are happy with it while others have said they have found it lacking.

How does the mini compare to my cs-20? If I get the mini will it be a disappointment compared to the cs 20? Thanks for your quick response. Tim

The RC mini center and Polk CS20 don't sound anything alike. I'm sure the CS20 plays deeper as it has two 6.5" drivers. But it wont match with RC-50s.

the Energy RC-50s are better than all the Polk Monitor series speakers. Its a different level speaker.

If you've got room get another RC-50 as a center or bite the bullet and get the RC LCR. if you have a smaller room the RC Mini center should be fine. But don't mix a Polk with them.

Since I haven't heard either, I cannot comment on how the mini will compare against the CS-20. However, I can speculate that the Mini will be a better tonal match to your RC-50s. It may lack the power to match the RC-50s at high volumes, but at low to moderate volumes, I am guessing the mini will be a better match. Perhaps the more experienced members on here that have heard both speakers can provide you with a better feedback.

My room is 18x12. I am sitting about 8 ft from the center channel. Would the mini be ok in this instance? Sorry for all the questions

Just get it. If you later think you need a bigger center return it.

I can't answer any questions as to what will make you happy. You need to figure this out for yourself.

Uhhh ok....thank you sir

Dude, you could go round and round for weeks without making a decision! Order the RC Mini center. If you like it, keep it. Its a good speaker. If not send it back. If you have to pay some kind of restocking fee it might be $10-15. Totally worth it for peace of mind. Consider it a learning experience.

At least you wont have to agonize about what decision to make.

And you can also compare it as a center vs your CS-20. Let us know what you think.

oops, i had mistyped 'RC-50' in place of 'RC-30'. I am planning to get RC-30s, NOT RC-50s. Main reason being 'living in an apartment'... so with new info, will that be an upgrade? or not?

i have the rc 50 tower speakers and i got the rc mini cc center channel and the rc 50 kill the mini so i returned the mini to vanns and bought the cc-10 center hopefully it will be better than the mini rc center. dont even waste your time if you have the rc 50 tower speakers it will kill the rc mini center channel speaker. i got the cc-10 channel from vanns for 199.99 good deal it is 300 dollars at best buy. the only thing is it is out of stock but they will be getting them in this week

I still think the RC-30 would be better than the E660.

If you got the E660s back when most people did you probably didn't pay more than $69-79 each for them. Bang for the buck those would be hard to beat. But RC-30s for $199 when they normally go for $450-$500 are quite a bargain too.

I think the Energy RC speakers compete more with the Jamo C600 or maybe C800 series lines.

Thank you for the info. Let me know how the cc-10 works out.

Hey guys, quick question: what should my crossover be set to inside my AVR? I'm using the S10.3 and I just got a new Yamaha HTR 6295. Thanks!

It doesn't really matter what sub you have, but what your other speakers are. And since that receiver only supports a global crossover (same for all speakers set as small), it's the smallest speaker you have that will really determine the crossover. YPAO will make a choice for you, but it's not necessarily the best choice.

Yeah YPAO was ran, but it also set my fronts and centre to large, so I manually changed them to small. I have c500s and a c-c100 as well as two Axiom bookshelves as surrounds. YPAO set my crossover at 80. Just wondering if that is fine for my setup or if I should change it... Thanks!

I don't know which Axiom bookshelves you have, but they should be the speakers that will need the highest crossover. So if YPAO picked 80Hz it should mean it's OK. For the other speakers 80Hz is not too high, and you probably can't set it lower because of the small surrounds.

I may be coming down with OCD. Just ordered another pair of RCR's for my back speakers. Just couldn't resist the price at Buy.com. Now my brain is saying buy more, buy more, put them somewhere...

Yes, you need an intervention! Seriously, rear surround is totally old news!.... DSX with wides and/or heights is the way to go! I am actually getting rid of my rear surrounds, moving my side RC-Rs further back and putting in wides/and or heights!

I have wide and high RC-mini's. Thinking RC-10's would be better, but not fitting my room so good. RCR's might be good for heights too. Maybe I should get another pair or two.

Go with the wides first. They get a lot more action and really widen your sound field.