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post #23221 of 51480
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Originally Posted by skoobydoo View Post

I have wide and high RC-mini's. Thinking RC-10's would be better, but not fitting my room so good. RCR's might be good for heights too. Maybe I should get another pair or two.

It gets even worse when you start thinking how the RC's could disappear any time with these blowout prices.

I didn't even have room for Wide RC-Mini's and now I'm considering doing RC-70 Wide's....madness!
post #23222 of 51480
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Originally Posted by OmegaR3D View Post

It gets even worse when you start thinking how the RC's could disappear any time with these blowout prices.

I didn't even have room for Wide RC-Mini's and now I'm considering doing RC-70 Wide's....madness!

That would be over kill, but you better get them while you can. Just look at it as future proofing. Lots of people have extra speakers in the closet.
post #23223 of 51480
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Originally Posted by skoobydoo View Post

I have wide and high RC-mini's. Thinking RC-10's would be better, but not fitting my room so good. RCR's might be good for heights too. Maybe I should get another pair or two.

Go with the wides first. They get a lot more action and really widen your sound field.

How about adding just a single RCR for the rear-- so a 6.1? I have the ability to mount this on my wall, and after hearing my father bipole Paradigms and the way they disperse sound through the back of the room, I'm sold on the RCR over RC-10 as rear surrounds...
post #23224 of 51480
I'd be lying if I said I didn't order a pair of RC-Rs from buy.com last week... I now have a 9 channel RC setup for my 7 channel receiver... hah. I'm waiting the right deal to show up on either the Denon 4311CI or Onkyo 3008 before I pulled the trigger on a new receiver. I'm 50/50 on these two receiver, so which ever shows up at the right price first wins I suppose.
post #23225 of 51480
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Originally Posted by automaton View Post

How about adding just a single RCR for the rear-- so a 6.1? I have the ability to mount this on my wall, and after hearing my father bipole Paradigms and the way they disperse sound through the back of the room, I'm sold on the RCR over RC-10 as rear surrounds...

I thought about a single RCR, would work good for a center channel too. I really like its mid range reproduction. For the price, get 2 and put one in the closet. No telling what the future may hold.
post #23226 of 51480
I am actually betting that rear surrounds won't even be needed, so I jumped on ShopOnkyo's recent 20% off sale to go with the already clearance price on the TX-NR807.... got it for $399 shipped! Networked, PC streaming, DSX or PL IIz options and 135 w/channel. I figured I could hardly go wrong....
post #23227 of 51480
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Originally Posted by mesasone View Post

I'd be lying if I said I didn't order a pair of RC-Rs from buy.com last week... I now have a 9 channel RC setup for my 7 channel receiver... hah. I'm waiting the right deal to show up on either the Denon 4311CI or Onkyo 3008 before I pulled the trigger on a new receiver. I'm 50/50 on these two receiver, so which ever shows up at the right price first wins I suppose.

That is what I did, waited for a best price. Watch New Egg on the weekends. I'm glad it turned up Onkyo. I think it is the better of the 2 receivers, even though I now have 11 speakers, with only 9 channels to drive them.
post #23228 of 51480
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Originally Posted by deano86 View Post

Yes, you need an intervention! Seriously, rear surround is totally old news!.... DSX with wides and/or heights is the way to go! I am actually getting rid of my rear surrounds, moving my side RC-Rs further back and putting in wides/and or heights!

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Originally Posted by deano86 View Post

I am actually betting that rear surrounds won't even be needed, so I jumped on ShopOnkyo's recent 20% off sale to go with the already clearance price on the TX-NR807.... got it for $399 shipped! Networked, PC streaming, DSX or PL IIz options and 135 w/channel. I figured I could hardly go wrong....

You may already be aware of this, but the the Onkyo line up prior to the current xx08 series can not run both wides and heights at the same time, unfortunately. The cheapest receiver that can do this (that I'm aware of) currently is Onkyo 1008, but it still seems to be twice what you spent on the 807 at current pricing.

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Originally Posted by skoobydoo View Post

That is what I did, waited for a best price. Watch New Egg on the weekends. I'm glad it turned up Onkyo. I think it is the better of the 2 receivers, even though I now have 11 speakers, with only 9 channels to drive them.

I think they both have their pros and cons... the Denon is expandable to 11 channel and can be Audyssey Pro enabled... the Onkyo is significantly cheaper and has a stronger amp section. Also, the Denon is prettier

I would guess that the Onkyo will show up at the price I want to pay for it (~$1K) before the Denon does. But I'm keeping my eyes on both.
post #23229 of 51480
RC line speakers in cherry have high WAF, also my a Pioneer BDP-51 has high WAF, so having to upgrade my receiver I would go with a Pio as well (as of course I am happy with Pioneer quality!) . I found a couple of good offers on a Pio 1018 and a 1019 model, which could be ok for my needs. I have no way to listen them, especially with my setup (RC-10 for rears, rc-mini cc and rc-mini surrounds, waiting to pull the trigger for the sub) so have to rely on you ... as always. All my system up to now was built on suggestions received on AVSForum and I am really happy so far.

Does any of you have an experience with either Pioneer 1018 or 1019 with RC 10/mini speakers? Is that a good match?

Another question about crossover. I read online that those receivers can set only one crossover for all the spekers. I am afraid that 100 would be to low for the minis but 150 would be too much for the RC-10 ... would that be a problem or not?

Thanks a lot
post #23230 of 51480
Pretty much any receiver would work fine with the RC-10 and RC Mini. They're easy to drive speakers. The 1018 is actually better than the 1019 as far as power is concerned. They lightened up the receiver quite a bit when they built the 1019. The 1018 has multichannel inputs, 7.1 preouts, and 390W power supply and weighs 29 lbs.

Pioneer VSX-1018.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/ep...X-1018AH-K.pdf

The VSX-1019 has multichannel inputs, but only a subwoofer output so you cant connect an external amp to it if you need more power. And it only weighs 19.2lbs...a 10lb drop from the previous year! The power supply dropped down to 350W also.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/ep...X-1019AH-K.pdf

The 1019 does have 4 HDMI inputs vs 3 on the 1018 if that matters.

Given a choice I'd go for the 1018. There was a pretty big thread about it when the 1019 came out.

Don't know if they let you have multiple crossovers on the Pioneers. I know the Onkyos and Denons do.
post #23231 of 51480
hi, i just bought a pair of rc-r s from buy.com
now i'm in waiting mode for a reasonably priced rc lcr
wish me luck
post #23232 of 51480
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Originally Posted by rapper55 View Post

RC line speakers in cherry have high WAF, also my a Pioneer BDP-51 has high WAF, so having to upgrade my receiver I would go with a Pio as well (as of course I am happy with Pioneer quality!) . I found a couple of good offers on a Pio 1018 and a 1019 model, which could be ok for my needs. I have no way to listen them, especially with my setup (RC-10 for rears, rc-mini cc and rc-mini surrounds, waiting to pull the trigger for the sub) so have to rely on you ... as always. All my system up to now was built on suggestions received on AVSForum and I am really happy so far.

Does any of you have an experience with either Pioneer 1018 or 1019 with RC 10/mini speakers? Is that a good match?

Another question about crossover. I read online that those receivers can set only one crossover for all the spekers. I am afraid that 100 would be to low for the minis but 150 would be too much for the RC-10 ... would that be a problem or not?

Thanks a lot

I had a 1019 with RC-mini's all around and an Omnisat V2 center. Worked great all around in a room 14' x 21' x 8. The RC-10's would be a great improvement as fronts, and the rc-mini cc would probably match a bit better for the fronts.

No problem driving these at good volumes. The 1019 doesn't allow multiple crossovers, I had them set at 100.
post #23233 of 51480
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Originally Posted by BahamaNYC View Post

hi, i just bought a pair of rc-r s from buy.com
now i'm in waiting mode for a reasonably priced rc lcr
wish me luck

G'luck :-)
post #23234 of 51480
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Originally Posted by mesasone View Post


I think they both have their pros and cons... the Denon is expandable to 11 channel and can be Audyssey Pro enabled... the Onkyo is significantly cheaper and has a stronger amp section. Also, the Denon is prettier

I like the looks of the Onkyo better. Looks much more solid to me. The remote is awesome too. I'm returning the Harmony remote I just bought because I thought the Denon was in my future. 11 channels would be the only reason I would jump on the Denon. From what I can tell from reading, the Onkyo has a better sound to it. Even a reviewer at Home Theater says "the TX-NR5008 is the best-sounding AVR I’ve ever used, bar none." http://www.hometheater.com/content/o...08-av-receiver
post #23235 of 51480
I don't see why either unit would have a better "sound" (or different, for that matter) unless the engineers really botched the design.
post #23236 of 51480
Well my RCR's arrived today. Now I'm wondering how to set them up. I don't figure I have too many placement options but in my usual listening position neither speaker face will be pointing to the listening position. They will be facing the front speakers more. I have a corner setup with the couch at an angle to the tv. If I really am going to watch a movie or something I just swing the couch parallel to the tv so I'm facing directly. When I do this the RCR's will be pointing toward the listening position. The side drivers will point towards the listening position when the couch is in it's normal position. What is better for my room environment? Bipole or dipole. What about the volume adjustment? Any guidelines to that or just leave it at max? Also does anybody see any better alternatives to what I'm planning for placement? Excuse the mess. ha. The L RCR is placed on the chest thingy and the right is currently sitting on a filing cabinet but I'm planning to wall mount it where the fuscia square is.
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post #23237 of 51480
Hi guys,

Earlier this year I picked up a pair of RC-10s, an RC mini-CC, Denon 590/1610, and eD A2-300. Now I'm thinking of getting a new pair of fronts and delegating the RC-10s to be sides/surrounds.

Since finding another pair of RC-10s seems to be difficult, I presume that getting a pair of RC-30s would probably be ok. However I noticed that the RC-50s are reasonably priced too. So being as greedy as I am for a good deal, I'm considering shelling out the extra cash for the RC-50s. I'm concerned that the RC-50s would overpower the RC mini-CC (ideally I'd pick up a pair of RC-50s and an RCLCR, but that's a bit out of my budget ). So factoring in the fact that I'm keeping the RC mini-CC, should I get a pair of RC-30s or RC-50s?

Bonus question, what's a good pair of stands for the RC-10s?

Thanks!
post #23238 of 51480
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Originally Posted by SaviorMachine View Post
Given the change I observed after setting my RC-10s to Large, I advise you with my whole heart that setting RC-50s to Small is a crime against Energy, God, and yourself.

Make no mistake: the Large setting will limit the bass response of your sub, but it will limit this response to what it should be. Watch your RC-50s open right up. I don't think you'll go back to Small--you paid for a full-range speaker, after all
Although you've already been replied to on this topic; since the information is just so completely wrong, I'll toss folks one more link on the subject to make sure that they don't follow the 100%-backwards advice:

Bass Management tips.
post #23239 of 51480
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Bonus question, what's a good pair of stands for the RC-10s?
I use Wood Technology stands with my RC-10s. They are 36" tall with a 5.5" top plate.

If you want something shorter these 24" stands would work.
http://www.racksandstands.com/Wood-T....5-WT0137.html
post #23240 of 51480
spymonkey - definitely try the search bar, because very many people have asked the same question lately and frankly I think they have always had replies from people running the same setup in question.

But maybe someone can help you with the stands.

That brings me to a question i have been thinking about asking you guys. What speakers would these stands work with and what would be a good price considering they are demo's / used. http://cgi.ebay.com/SANUS-EFSAT-SPEA...item20b5441bde
post #23241 of 51480
I think the RC-mini CC would be fine with RC-50s. Either of the RC towers are likely to outperform/overpower the mini center at higher volumes, but should otherwise be just fine.
post #23242 of 51480
hi i have had the rc 50 towers and the rc mini cc for about a week now and i can tell you the rc 50 will definatly overpower the mini cc i watched a few bluray dvd movies and the mini wasnt powerful enough for me compared to the 50 towers. so i shipped back to vanns and bought the energy cc 10 center hopefully that will work better
post #23243 of 51480
I ended up setting my fronts to small and tweeking the sub a bit more with the receiver and I was giggling like a little school girl watching the opening scene of Two Towers. My fiance actually came running downstairs and told me I was shaking the whole house (I live in a town house). Thanks for the help, the VTF2 MK3 is really matching nicely with my energy setup.
post #23244 of 51480
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Originally Posted by spymonkey View Post

Bonus question, what's a good pair of stands for the RC-10s?

I use these for the RC10's. You can sort of see them in the pics I posted a few posts back. At least you can tell how high the rc's sit on them. I have found them to be a very nice budget stand with good looks that match well with the black ash finish. I've had them over a year now and no problems.
post #23245 of 51480
Selling my RC-50's in the Toronto area if anyone's interested. $750 for the pair. They're less then a year old, and absolutely blemish free. I took the time to ensure they were properly broken in as well.

Get in touch if you want em!
post #23246 of 51480
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Originally Posted by SmoothOperator_r View Post

Selling my RC-50's in the Toronto area if anyone's interested. $750 for the pair. They're less then a year old, and absolutely blemish free. I took the time to ensure they were properly broken in as well.

Get in touch if you want em!

You wouldnt happen to have a RC-LCR for sale do you?
post #23247 of 51480
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Originally Posted by tang7969 View Post

You wouldnt happen to have a RC-LCR for sale do you?

Sorry bud
post #23248 of 51480
RC-Rs are gone on Buy.com!
post #23249 of 51480
you can get brand new rc 50 speakers from vanns for 500
post #23250 of 51480
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Originally Posted by destiny 21 View Post

you can get brand new rc 50 speakers from vanns for 500

Not in Canada you can't, otherwise I would have!
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