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post #23341 of 51519
I would like to know if anyone owns the energy CF-30 5.1 system, and how it performs.

I just bought two cf-30 as mains, a esw-c10 sub, a cc-10 center and a cr-10 at Future shop for 900$ all in (Boxing day pricing + a possible price error)

Also, would a Denon AVR-391 be enough to power this system?

I think this will be a major step up from my 10 years old RCA RS2533 mini-system !
post #23342 of 51519
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Originally Posted by Frico View Post

I would like to know if anyone owns the energy CF-30 5.1 system, and how it performs.

I just bought two cf-30 as mains, a esw-c10 sub, a cc-10 center and a cr-10 at Future shop for 900$ all in (Boxing day pricing + a possible price error)

Also, would a Denon AVR-391 be enough to power this system?

I think this will be a major step up from my 10 years old RCA RS2533 mini-system !

check out denon 789 on Amazon. Way better AVR for the money!
post #23343 of 51519
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Originally Posted by Frico View Post

I would like to know if anyone owns the energy CF-30 5.1 system, and how it performs.

I just bought two cf-30 as mains, a esw-c10 sub, a cc-10 center and a cr-10 at Future shop for 900$ all in (Boxing day pricing + a possible price error)

Also, would a Denon AVR-391 be enough to power this system?

pretty good deal on the speaker setup! but not so outrageous that you should think there is a pricing error

however, avoid the AVR 391 for all the reasons I cite in the first post of the 391/591/1611 owners thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1252688

the Denon 591 is the minimum model in this year's lineup that I would recommend for a nice HT setup. The Audyssey package is worth the extra money if you want to do justice to those speakers.

read here if you want to understand the numbering scheme: http://batpigworld.com/models.html
post #23344 of 51519
Has anyone seen closeout deals on the RCmini? I'm currently using two satellites from an Acoustic Research HD510 5.1 system but thinking about moving stuff around some day I'm wondering if I should pick up some RC-minis for heights while they're still available.
post #23345 of 51519
Anyone contemplating a RC-50 purchase from Ron & Bobs' World Wide Stereo, Use promo code "GRATEFUL" for another 5% off
post #23346 of 51519
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Originally Posted by Chezteladog View Post

Has anyone seen closeout deals on the RCmini? I'm currently using two satellites from an Acoustic Research HD510 5.1 system but thinking about moving stuff around some day I'm wondering if I should pick up some RC-minis for heights while they're still available.

If you want RC Minis your best bet is ebay. I don't anybody else carrying them now.
post #23347 of 51519
Well, I decided to start setting up my new layout last night and unbox the new speakers











IGNORE the cables(quick setup, need to change cable lengths, buy some more speaker wire, move a ton of Christmas stuff, etc. Added a surge suppressor too, so many wires to hide!!!) This is what I setup so far. New stand on the way. BDI Marina


Morning


This is what it should look similar to when all is finished.



Anyone else stay up and watch Todd Duffee get destroyed by the Reem? Was expecting Duffe to lose but not that fast.
post #23348 of 51519
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Originally Posted by malagant View Post

Well, I decided to start setting up my new layout last night and unbox the new speakers

IGNORE the cables(quick setup, need to change cable lengths, buy some more speaker wire, move a ton of Christmas stuff, etc. Added a surge suppressor too, so many wires to hide!!!) This is what I setup so far. New stand on the way. BDI Marina

Morning

This is what it should look similar to when all is finished.

Anyone else stay up and watch Todd Duffee get destroyed by the Reem? Was expecting Duffe to lose but not that fast.

Nice looking setup!
post #23349 of 51519
Interesting setup, not that often you see RC-70's as surrounds. Have you considered trying DSX Wide and moving the back surrounds to the side?
post #23350 of 51519
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Originally Posted by OmegaR3D View Post

Interesting setup, not that often you see RC-70's as surrounds. Have you considered trying DSX Wide and moving the back surrounds to the side?

No, I haven't. But that sounds good. I would have to remove the floor lamps or else I think the sub would be too crowded. Hmmm, I wanted to have some rears... Thinking, if I get two more speakers I would need a new receiver too. Hmmm. I got the Marantz cause I was only originally thinking of a 5.1 with future proofing for 7.1... Now I want 9.1... So I should probably get a 11.x receiver.
Hahaha, to think I only had a ****** 55" Samsung plasma 1080i and a z-5500 system for two years up until 3 weeks ago...
post #23351 of 51519
YAY! It's here...











As you can see from the last pic in order to accommodate my tower center the TV needs to be raised at least 6" and the tv stand needs to be relocated.

Any suggestions?
post #23352 of 51519
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Originally Posted by malagant View Post

No, I haven't. But that sounds good. I would have to remove the floor lamps or else I think the sub would be too crowded. Hmmm, I wanted to have some rears... Thinking, if I get two more speakers I would need a new receiver too. Hmmm. I got the Marantz cause I was only originally thinking of a 5.1 with future proofing for 7.1... Now I want 9.1... So I should probably get a 11.x receiver.
Hahaha, to think I only had a ****** 55" Samsung plasma 1080i and a z-5500 system for two years up until 3 weeks ago...

You could always get the RC-R's and put them in bipole or dipole mode to give the effect of rear channel until you upgrade your receiver. With the your seating and speaker setup I'm sure the effect will work well.

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As you can see from the last pic in order to accommodate my tower center the TV needs to be raised at least 6" and the tv stand needs to be relocated.

Any suggestions?

Put the RC-70 horizontally, it looks like it would fit on the stand and you could even put the entire tv on top of the RC-70 if you take it off the mount. Either that or wall mount tv.
post #23353 of 51519
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Originally Posted by OmegaR3D View Post

Put the RC-70 horizontally, it looks like it would fit on the stand and you could even put the entire tv on top of the RC-70 if you take it off the mount. Either that or wall mount tv.

At this point, I think he'd be better off just sticking with the RC-LCR. But I think he is planning on wall mounting since he said he's going to move the TV stand. I wonder if the TV won't be a little on the high side if he mounts it high enough to clear the RC-70?
post #23354 of 51519
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Originally Posted by mesasone View Post

I wonder if the TV won't be a little on the high side if he mounts it high enough to clear the RC-70?

That is my main concern with mounting it, but it seems to be the only solution. I can keep it a little lower because I don't plan on clearing the full length of the RC70 but just enough so the samsung logo is below the speaker.

I'm open to suggestions.

@ OmegaR3D
I think many members would gasp in horror if I placed it horizontally. A few have been talked out of it because, and correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the tweeters positioned/aimed a certain way when placed in the cabinet? Also, the whole speaker, specifically the tweeter would be off center from my listening positions.
post #23355 of 51519
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Originally Posted by knight_40k View Post


I'm open to suggestions.

Wouldn't tilting the tv downward once mounted solve the elevated height concerns?


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Originally Posted by knight_40k View Post

@ OmegaR3D
I think many members would gasp in horror if I placed it horizontally. A few have been talked out of it because, and correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the tweeters positioned/aimed a certain way when placed in the cabinet? Also, the whole speaker, specifically the tweeter would be off center from my listening positions.

Yeah the tweeter would be to the extreme left or right of the stand it would mostly be a temporary solution until the display is sorted out and you'd enjoy matching fronts in the meantime. Perhaps I misread one of the RC-70 reviews recently but it showed the horizontal measurements were very close to the vertical giving the impression it would make a fine center.
post #23356 of 51519
Here's a pic of my temporary setup in my living room. Theater room is directly below the living/dining room. The screen will be on the opposite wall which is straight rather than angled.
Since I picked up another pair of RC70's for wides and a Denon 4311ci last weekend I figured I'd have some fun with it.
When the theater room is completed the DLS5000R's will be replaced by a pair of CSS SDX15's (unplanned all Canadian designed speaker setup) and the RC-LCR with a RC70 and will probably use an Emotiva XPA5 for the 5- RC70's. More importantly I'll have some real furniture in the living and dining rooms.
I still have to do the firmware update on the Denon, but so far I haven't experienced any of the reported issues *knocks on wood* and sound quality is great.
LL
post #23357 of 51519
knight_40k - Dude you've still got an original Nintendo...nice...solid! I'm guessing with surround sound, you are now way better at Duck Hunt, and RBI?
post #23358 of 51519
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Originally Posted by OmegaR3D View Post

Wouldn't tilting the tv downward once mounted solve the elevated height concerns?

+1. Keeps the screen at 90 degrees.

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Originally Posted by mphfrom77 View Post

knight_40k - Dude you've still got an original Nintendo...nice...solid! I'm guessing with surround sound, you are now way better at Duck Hunt, and RBI?

Either my gun is broken, or it won't work with an LCD screen
post #23359 of 51519
I was wondering if I should run the rc 70 as small and let the sub do the work or keep them as large any suggestions I have a 200 watt dedicated amp so power isn't an issue
post #23360 of 51519
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Originally Posted by Chezteladog View Post

Has anyone seen closeout deals on the RCmini? I'm currently using two satellites from an Acoustic Research HD510 5.1 system but thinking about moving stuff around some day I'm wondering if I should pick up some RC-minis for heights while they're still available.

I have a pair of RC-minis from the previous Woot sale that I do not need. They have never been opened. I will let them go for the price I paid Woot + shipping. Send me a PM if you are interested.
post #23361 of 51519
Hi guys, how do I get a good calibration of my speakers and receiver setup?
Any good guides?

Below is my setup (to-be):
Receiver - Onkyo RC-270
Speakers:
CF-70 pair
CC5 - Center
CR10 - Surround
ESW-C10

I am wanting to understand the connectivity options, cross overs etc. Thanks in advance.
post #23362 of 51519
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Originally Posted by caper334 View Post

I was wondering if I should run the rc 70 as small and let the sub do the work or keep them as large any suggestions I have a 200 watt dedicated amp so power isn't an issue

Yes the RC-70s are large speakers and capable of pretty good bass, but they can not compete with a dedicated subwoofer which is designed to handle just low frequencies. Definitely cross them over at least at 60hz or slightly higher and let the 70s really do what they do best. You may have to experiment to see what crossover level really works well with your room and subwoofer as far as the blend, but by not making the woofers in your 70s have to reproduce those super low frequencies, you are freeing them up to do the rest of audio spectrum better! They do sound and work better that way!
post #23363 of 51519
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Originally Posted by turrmoil View Post

Hi guys, how do I get a good calibration of my speakers and receiver setup?
Any good guides?

Below is my setup (to-be):
Receiver - Onkyo RC-270
Speakers:
CF-70 pair
CC5 - Center
CR10 - Surround
ESW-C10

I am wanting to understand the connectivity options, cross overs etc. Thanks in advance.

Well, since you have powered sub, hook it up using a cable from your Preout Subwoofer jack on your receiver to the line in input on your sub. If you have a crossover bypass option on your subwoofer, select it and set your volume knob at about 1/2 way.
You have a good mid-level receiver with Audyssey MultiEQ.... Let it run the tests at 6 positions in the listening area of your room. Then go back into your receiver speaker settings and manually set the crossovers at a minimum of 80Hz for your fronts, center and surrounds. If Audyssey detected your center and surrounds as higher, leave them at that setting. I am betting you will be good to go with a nice setup!
post #23364 of 51519
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Originally Posted by deano86 View Post

Well, since you have powered sub, hook it up using a cable from your Preout Subwoofer jack on your receiver to the line in input on your sub. If you have a crossover bypass option on your subwoofer, select it and set your volume knob at about 1/2 way.
You have a good mid-level receiver with Audyssey MultiEQ.... Let it run the tests at 6 positions in the listening area of your room. Then go back into your receiver speaker settings and manually set the crossovers at a minimum of 80Hz for your fronts, center and surrounds. If Audyssey detected your center and surrounds as higher, leave them at that setting. I am betting you will be good to go with a nice setup!

Thanks deano86. I get this stuff delivered next week. Will let you all know next weekend. Thanks.

I am also looking for 100ft speaker wire, what is a good guage and place to buy? Monoprice?
post #23365 of 51519
You got it.... Monoprice has great products at great prices... 16 AWG would be just fine, 14 AWG if you like your wire a bit beefier...

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
post #23366 of 51519
Oh wow... so I haven't been on here in a long time. When did they start discontinuing the RC line?

So I see that Futureshop.ca only has the RC-70's left and for only $499... someone give me a GOOD reason to go pick up a set. I just hate it when something good gets discontinued.

So what I have right now is my HSU-2, fronts RC-70's, center RCR, surround RC-10's...
post #23367 of 51519
If you already have rc-70's you know how good they are! Why do you need us to convince you?
post #23368 of 51519
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Originally Posted by Spudsicles View Post

Oh wow... so I haven't been on here in a long time. When did they start discontinuing the RC line?

So I see that Futureshop.ca only has the RC-70's left and for only $499... someone give me a GOOD reason to go pick up a set. I just hate it when something good gets discontinued.

So what I have right now is my HSU-2, fronts RC-70's, center RCR, surround RC-10's...

Good luck finding a pair...they sold out online the day of the sale. They may have a few pairs (stragglers) throughout local stores, but I think they are all gone.
post #23369 of 51519
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Originally Posted by Spudsicles View Post

Oh wow... so I haven't been on here in a long time. When did they start discontinuing the RC line?

So I see that Futureshop.ca only has the RC-70's left and for only $499... someone give me a GOOD reason to go pick up a set. I just hate it when something good gets discontinued.

So what I have right now is my HSU-2, fronts RC-70's, center RCR, surround RC-10's...

You can always just pick up a pair and send them to me in the states. I missed the woot deal. :-(
post #23370 of 51519
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Originally Posted by OmegaR3D View Post

Wouldn't tilting the tv downward once mounted solve the elevated height concerns?

Yeah the tweeter would be to the extreme left or right of the stand it would mostly be a temporary solution until the display is sorted out and you'd enjoy matching fronts in the meantime. Perhaps I misread one of the RC-70 reviews recently but it showed the horizontal measurements were very close to the vertical giving the impression it would make a fine center.

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Originally Posted by caper_1 View Post

+1. Keeps the screen at 90 degrees.

Either my gun is broken, or it won't work with an LCD screen

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Originally Posted by mphfrom77 View Post

knight_40k - Dude you've still got an original Nintendo...nice...solid! I'm guessing with surround sound, you are now way better at Duck Hunt, and RBI?

Thanks guys, I will look for a mount this week.

Yes I still have an original NES, haha, actually I have 2 of them, both working. To be honest I haven't played it in a long time, don't know if the gun works on LCD or not. Personally, TMNT2 is my game of choice.
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