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post #23551 of 51439
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Originally Posted by jones2289 View Post

I just got my rc-50s in the mail, and I'm having a heck of a time trying to put the spikes on the bottom. One of them screwed in easily with no problems, the other three are in varying degrees of progress, and none will screw down all the way. The nuts on the bottom are convenient for unscrewing the spikes, but when you try to screw them in it just spins the nut all the way to the bottom. After the first one I thought I just had it crossthreaded, but I've been messing with them for half an hour and can't get the remaining 3 spikes to screw all the way in.

Has anyone else had this problem?

You spin the spike down by turning the spike itself, not the nut. The nut is intended as a jam nut. If you rotate just the spike it should go into the base. Each of the spikes should be installed so that when you place the speaker on the ground it is perfectly stable. If it rocks then spin the short spike out by a bit. Once all the spikes are at the right height you spin the nut toward the speaker until it locks up against the speaker base. This should prevent the spike from being able to rotate.
post #23552 of 51439
I have been running my new RC 50s for a few hours, and i really am enjoying these. The RC 50s replaced RC 10s fronts.

The 50s are kind of close to the wall and near cabinets on both sides, so they are a bit boomy.

I know im going to have to plug some ports to compensate for room boundries.

does it make sense to only plug the bottom ports of the lowest woofer?

Is there any pics of the inside of the RC 50 like the pics showing the inside of the RC70?
post #23553 of 51439
If you check the location of my speakers in my theater room, you'll see that they're fairly close to the corners. I plugged the lower port and it seems to have helped a bit. I don't really notice any boominess at all, but there is definitely some corner loading going on.

I just got my REW setup calibrated on my laptop, so I plan on taking some measurements this weekend. I'll post some updates on my build thread (see my signature) when I take the measurements.
post #23554 of 51439
Hello. Anyone here has rc 30s paired with cc 10 center? Will the rc lcr make a huge difference for a 20x12 room? Thanks.
post #23555 of 51439
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Originally Posted by mphfrom77 View Post

Well they were on woot for an hour or so for $104 a piece.

Minor correction, the ones on Woot.com were 89 ea with 5 dollar shipping.
post #23556 of 51439
Futureshop has one RC-70 back online for 499.99 and all energy speakers on sale.
post #23557 of 51439
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Originally Posted by energy-man View Post

I have been running my new RC 50s for a few hours, and i really am enjoying these. The RC 50s replaced RC 10s fronts.

The 50s are kind of close to the wall and near cabinets on both sides, so they are a bit boomy.

I know im going to have to plug some ports to compensate for room boundries.

does it make sense to only plug the bottom ports of the lowest woofer?

Is there any pics of the inside of the RC 50 like the pics showing the inside of the RC70?

Is this what your looking for.I plugged both my ports and it helped a lot.Heres a pic of the inside.
http://www.ultimateavmag.com/speakersystems/306energy/
Ooops I re-read your post and noticed you were looking for pics of the RC-50,not the 70,sorry bout that.
post #23558 of 51439
Hi guys

I just received my brand new pair of RC70's last week and still waiting for my LCR from delivery.... I alreayd have a SVS PB-12NSD and Polk Rti4 surround speakers installed. I was wondering if my Pioneer Elite VSX21 pump enough power to drive properly those speakers ???

Thx
post #23559 of 51439
RC-70s have a senstivity of 92db which makes them pretty easy to drive by your receiver. Just depends how loud you plan to play your system and size of the room. Good thing is that the VSX-21 has 7.1 preouts so you can always add an amp if you need more power later.

The only way to know is to plug it in and give it a try. i doubt you'll have problem unless you're trying to play at concert levels.
post #23560 of 51439
Well, Ive had my speakers for only a couple weeks and I already want to do some upgrades... I thinking about replacing my RC-Mini bookshelf speakers (used as surrounds in 5.1) with a pair of RC-R. I found a futureshop that is selling the RC-R's for $200 each. Is that a good deal for the RC-R's, and would it be a good upgrade from the RC-Mini? Can the RC-R be mounted directly to the wall in typical 5.1 configuration?

Here's my current setup:
Fronts: RC-70 (will be keeping these for sure)
Center: Currently CC-10 (looking to find RC-LCR)
Surrounds: Currently RC-MINI (might replace with RC-R's)
Sub: Will be getting a HSU-STF2
post #23561 of 51439
yes, the RC-R is designed to be wall mounted.
post #23562 of 51439
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Originally Posted by automaton View Post

Certainly not noticeable for HT/gaming, but a little with music. And I want some nicer speakers for my home office, so it was either another pair of 41s, the RC-10s, or go a different direction altogether and grab the KEF iq10/30.

I'm really happy with the 50s/LCR, especially now that I've added a sub. Music is simply amazing. I was away on holiday for the past few weeks and couldn't wait to get back and listen some more. But from my office, they don't sound great, so I'm hooking up an ancient 2-channel receiver in there to listen to music on my computer.

So i went ahead and pulled the trigger on the rc-30 for my rears, i might hold on to the BS41 since i got them for about 79 bucks, which is a good deal for that. But i think i wantwhat you want, was just to have all the speakers to match. Plus i am also picking up a bic f12 to replace the jbl sub i had with my old satellite system.
post #23563 of 51439
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Originally Posted by UberGamer View Post

So i went ahead and pulled the trigger on the rc-30 for my rears, i might hold on to the BS41 since i got them for about 79 bucks, which is a good deal for that. But i think i wantwhat you want, was just to have all the speakers to match. Plus i am also picking up a bic f12 to replace the jbl sub i had with my old satellite system.

Good call. I got an Emotiva 10" sub, and was a little overwhelmed at first, but it's growing on me, especially with music-- accurate but not overpowering, and that had taken some listening to appreciate. Could have probably gone with the 12", but the 10" was only $219 on closeout and I have neighbors...

I should have gotten the RC-Rs for my rears and moved the Pios to the office. If Buy gets them in stock again, I'll pick up a pair. If I had the room, I'd go with the RC-30s or 50s for rears.
post #23564 of 51439
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post
I would just use the Take Classic for surrounds since you have them. You can try it out anyway and if you don't like it, get larger speakers. There is no cost in trying the Take Classics.
Thanks for the advice Afro, you and your post have been super helpful. As much as I wanted to use my take 5s as rears I had to go ahead and order the RC-30 for surrounds.

Unlike my Denon receiver in my main room the pioneer does not allow me to adjust the xover for each speaker. This would not be to much of a problem for normal monitors or bookshelf speakers but the takes really need to be xover at 100hz to 120hz for them to sound good.

With the RC-30s I could cross the whole system over at 60hz and it should sound great.

I should have my RC-50s and RC-LCR by Monday and the RC-30s by Friday.

I can't wait!
post #23565 of 51439
Here's a good discussion on using towers for surrounds:

http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/...d.php?t=667045

I am also trying to decide on RC-50s or RC-30s for the back surrounds now that the RC-Rs have dried up.

Seems like there's gives and takes just like anything else.
post #23566 of 51439
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Originally Posted by bucknell View Post
Here's a good discussion on using towers for surrounds:

http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/...d.php?t=667045

I am also trying to decide on RC-50s or RC-30s for the back surrounds now that the RC-Rs have dried up.

Seems like there's gives and takes just like anything else.
Thanks bucknell! Going to read through it now.
post #23567 of 51439
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Originally Posted by dan_v View Post
Well, Ive had my speakers for only a couple weeks and I already want to do some upgrades... I thinking about replacing my RC-Mini bookshelf speakers (used as surrounds in 5.1) with a pair of RC-R. I found a futureshop that is selling the RC-R's for $200 each. Is that a good deal for the RC-R's, and would it be a good upgrade from the RC-Mini? Can the RC-R be mounted directly to the wall in typical 5.1 configuration?

Here's my current setup:
Fronts: RC-70 (will be keeping these for sure)
Center: Currently CC-10 (looking to find RC-LCR)
Surrounds: Currently RC-MINI (might replace with RC-R's)
Sub: Will be getting a HSU-STF2
I recently changed from RC-10's to RC-R's for my rears. I am pleased. However, keep in mind that the bi/dipole design sounds different from a direct speaker. The RC-R diffuses the sound. A direct speaker pointed at you, like the mini, will be more accurate for gunfire, cars driving by.

I went with the RC-R's over the RC-10's because I do not have enough space behind my couch to place the RC-10's. I wanted them at least 8 feet from the listener but the max I can go is 4'. I also had to place mine on the wall behind me instead of on the side walls.

What is your room shaped like / listening position?

By the way, I bought the HSU-VTF1 and I love it. (It is very similar to the STF2).
post #23568 of 51439
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Originally Posted by PS3 Lagerman View Post
I recently changed from RC-10's to RC-R's for my rears. I am pleased. However, keep in mind that the bi/dipole design sounds different from a direct speaker. The RC-R diffuses the sound. A direct speaker pointed at you, like the mini, will be more accurate for gunfire, cars driving by.

I went with the RC-R's over the RC-10's because I do not have enough space behind my couch to place the RC-10's. I wanted them at least 8 feet from the listener but the max I can go is 4'. I also had to place mine on the wall behind me instead of on the side walls.

What is your room shaped like / listening position?

By the way, I bought the HSU-VTF1 and I love it. (It is very similar to the STF2).
Here's my proposed room layout. If I get the RC-R's I would mount them directly on the wall as shown.


Any one else have opinions on the RC-R's? I just debating if the RC-R's (at $200 each) will be a much better speaker for surrounds than the RC-Mini's. (I got the RC-Minis for $130 each, a pretty good deal i think)
post #23569 of 51439
given your layout the RC-R will be perfect -- since they will wall-mount flush and provide dispersed sound -- and will be a big improvement over the much smaller (and monopole) RC-Mini's. go for it!
post #23570 of 51439
I'm no expert, but I think you'll get more bang for your buck by changing the center to the rc-lcr
post #23571 of 51439
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Originally Posted by streetcredit View Post

i'm no expert, but i think you'll get more bang for your buck by changing the center to the rc-lcr


+1
post #23572 of 51439
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Originally Posted by streetcredit View Post

I'm no expert, but I think you'll get more bang for your buck by changing the center to the rc-lcr

Yup, I'm on the look out for a RC-LCR right now; might buy one off a forum member here. I will likely be returning the CC-10.
post #23573 of 51439
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Originally Posted by Martin_Per View Post

Hi guys

I just received my brand new pair of RC70's last week and still waiting for my LCR from delivery.... I alreayd have a SVS PB-12NSD and Polk Rti4 surround speakers installed. I was wondering if my Pioneer Elite VSX21 pump enough power to drive properly those speakers ???

Thx

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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

RC-70s have a senstivity of 92db which makes them pretty easy to drive by your receiver. Just depends how loud you plan to play your system and size of the room. Good thing is that the VSX-21 has 7.1 preouts so you can always add an amp if you need more power later.

The only way to know is to plug it in and give it a try. i doubt you'll have problem unless you're trying to play at concert levels.


Do you think it would be worth adding a XPA-3 amp ??? Is it worth almost 1k$ ?? (Live in canada)
post #23574 of 51439
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Originally Posted by dan_v View Post

Yup, I'm on the look out for a RC-LCR right now; might buy one off a forum member here. I will likely be returning the CC-10.

could always try the ebay site, i just received my confirmation number today and should arrive within 2-4 days. ill keep you updated once i get mine
post #23575 of 51439
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Originally Posted by UberGamer View Post

could always try the ebay site, i just received my confirmation number today and should arrive within 2-4 days. ill keep you updated once i get mine

You received your confirmation number today? If you don't mind my asking, when did you place your order?
post #23576 of 51439
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Originally Posted by SaviorMachine View Post

You received your confirmation number today? If you don't mind my asking, when did you place your order?

i ordered on the 5th, and got the confirmation through paypal that it was accepted that day, and got the confirmation that it shipped today.
Here is the link,Ebay LCR Its brand new in box, i just hope ups will take good care of it when shipping it. It should arrive in 2-4 days, ill keep you guys informed when i get it.
post #23577 of 51439
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Originally Posted by UberGamer View Post

could always try the ebay site, i just received my confirmation number today and should arrive within 2-4 days. ill keep you updated once i get mine

Did you get the one for $370 on ebay? I tried to buy that one but the seller/ebay wont let me because my credit card is canadian addressed... I even was planning on having it shipped to a US address and pick it in Michigan (I live close to the border) but the seller/ebay still couldn't do it. Kind of stupid if you ask me.

Anyone from the Port Huron, MI area (or anywhere in the US) want to make $20 and help me out?
post #23578 of 51439
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Originally Posted by dan_v View Post
Any one else have opinions on the RC-R's? I just debating if the RC-R's (at $200 each) will be a much better speaker for surrounds than the RC-Mini's. (I got the RC-Minis for $130 each, a pretty good deal i think)
The RCR's are a huge improvement over the RC-Mini
post #23579 of 51439
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Originally Posted by mj75 View Post
Hello. Anyone here has rc 30s paired with cc 10 center? Will the rc lcr make a huge difference for a 20x12 room? Thanks.
Not exactly, but when I was first starting out I paired C-7's with the newer (at the time) C-C100.

As for the LCR making a huge difference...in terms of what? The LCR and CC10 are both large center speakers. The only real note worthy thing it will do is timber match with your RC30s.
post #23580 of 51439
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Originally Posted by jones2289 View Post
I just got my rc-50s in the mail, and I'm having a heck of a time trying to put the spikes on the bottom. One of them screwed in easily with no problems, the other three are in varying degrees of progress, and none will screw down all the way. The nuts on the bottom are convenient for unscrewing the spikes, but when you try to screw them in it just spins the nut all the way to the bottom. After the first one I thought I just had it crossthreaded, but I've been messing with them for half an hour and can't get the remaining 3 spikes to screw all the way in.

Has anyone else had this problem?
I had a similar issue with one of my RC10's and the macromounts. Even though these mounts are designed specifically for Energy bookshelf speakers and other API, it wouldn't go in all the way. I tried both mounts on both speakers but only one RC10 was 'glitched', and wouldn't fit properly. Odd, I guess thats the trade off for having speakers made in China.
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