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post #23791 of 47746
1/13/11 at 2:16pm
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how much money do you have and how much do you care about improving audio performance? only you can answer this "worth it" question!

I saw that response coming! I just feel like every dollar I spend now is one less I'll have to spend later on a really nice system. It pains me. I know I sound incredibly cheap...but I am a student.

Many thanks, batpig (not just for this reply but for your many posts that I have read). I'll reassess and see whether I can squeeze a center channel out of my budget. I assume the CC-5 is the one that is meant to go with the CB-5s.
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post #23792 of 47746
1/13/11 at 2:18pm
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I assume the CC-5 is the one that is meant to go with the CB-5s.

Yep..
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post #23793 of 47746
1/13/11 at 2:23pm
if you can fit a vertical bookshelf at center, the CB-5 will work fine instead of the CC-5.

if you are on a strict budget and if you can truly get the CB-5 for $79/pr, it's cheaper to get two pairs of CB-5 than CB-5 + CC-5.

shoot, if you could get them for $79 pair and are feeling frisky, you could get THREE pairs of CB-5 for $240, sell the Take Classic 5.0 for $150, and have a completely upgraded 5.0 setup for under $100 net. Sell the spare CB-5 if you need some lunch money for another $30-40
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post #23794 of 47746
1/13/11 at 2:23pm
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Originally Posted by Hank Mardukous View Post

"is there a huge difference from the rc-50 to the rc-70."


However with the Energy RC 70 sale for $1000 I bought a pair around Christmas. I have been breaking them in and they sound incredible. They sound as good straight out of the box as the RC 50 do after 2 years of being used! The RC 70 has a couple hundred hours on them now and they are sooo good I just bought another pair today! (the last pair from a Future Shop in Ontario)

Just curious, which Future Shop did you get from? Waterloo had one more pair in stock last week.

I'm amazed with the 50s for HT, and for some types of music they're awesome, others I can definitely hear where the mids aren't as clear as they could be. But I'm really curious to hear the 70s. Bought my 50s for $600/pr right before the 70s were on Woot for $800/pr, and just couldn't justify having both given how small my space is.

I would say that for $540/pr, you can't go wrong with the 50s. 70s are still really hard to come by for a reasonable price.
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post #23795 of 47746
1/13/11 at 2:48pm
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Originally Posted by Hank Mardukous View Post

You know your Future Shops. What amp are you using for the 50's?

Just using a Pioneer 1120. No dedicated amp. I don't drive them that loud, so doubt I'd gain much with an amp. But the 1120 has preouts in case I decide to go that route in the future...

I was just up in Waterloo for business. Almost went over and bought them as an impulse buy, but resisted.
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post #23796 of 47746
1/13/11 at 3:12pm
Pre outs are always nice to have just in case ideas and set ups change / permit. Plus that Pioneer loks like a nice little unit...For my sake I'm glad that you have excellent self control
Cheers
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post #23797 of 47746
1/13/11 at 4:31pm
Just picked up a Pioneer SC-25 and my Pioneer 6020fd 60" Kuro comes Saturday.

I am finally going to set up my rc-LCR...

Its all coming together slooooowly
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post #23798 of 47746
1/13/11 at 4:38pm
Wow 6020 fd. BrAnd new?
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post #23799 of 47746
1/13/11 at 4:54pm
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Wow 6020 fd. BrAnd new?

you can still buy them new. Just look at amazon.com. you have to pay 6K for it though
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post #23800 of 47746
1/13/11 at 5:05pm
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Wow 6020 fd. BrAnd new?

Best buy floor model - Panel only, been on display approx 3mo's
Was a return that they used as a display - questionable I know but looked great to be. Only cost 2k - Selling my 111fd to pay for it so basically i traded a used 50" elite (bought new but is "used" now) for a used 60" standard kuro
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post #23801 of 47746
1/13/11 at 5:07pm
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Best buy floor model - Panel only, been on display approx 3mo's
Was a return that they used as a display - questionable I know but looked great to be. Only cost 2k - Selling my 111fd to pay for it so basically i traded a used 50" elite (bought new but is "used" now) for a used 60" standard kuro

Nice. I got a 101fd. I'll do the same when I get the chance.
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post #23802 of 47746
1/13/11 at 5:35pm
Hello.
Has anyone had a chance to compare the new veritas line against the RC line at all? I find It interesting that the woofer/ tweeters appear to look a lot like the RC's.

I am considering upgrading my rears from the rc-minis to the rc10 or rcr veritas equivalents. Still expensive though and the rc line is hard to find here in Canada. I keep missing the rc10's when vanns gets them in as we head across the border sometimes.

I am wondering if the new veritas are timbre matched to the old rc line, and what the sound differences are if anyone has compared them.
Thanks!
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post #23803 of 47746
1/13/11 at 6:01pm
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Originally Posted by Britcanuck View Post

Hello.
Has anyone had a chance to compare the new veritas line against the RC line at all? I find It interesting that the woofer/ tweeters appear to look a lot like the RC's.

I am considering upgrading my rears from the rc-minis to the rc10 or rcr veritas equivalents. Still expensive though and the rc line is hard to find here in Canada. I keep missing the rc10's when vanns gets them in as we head across the border sometimes.

I am wondering if the new veritas are timbre matched to the old rc line, and what the sound differences are if anyone has compared them.
Thanks!

Only one member here has both the new Veritas and RC line. He did a brief comparison a few (maybe 10) pages back.

What I really want to know is how the new Veritas go up against the old Veritas. While the new ones claim to have more advanced crossovers than the RC's they still lack the 2" mid range tweeter which IMO was the sweet spot in the older Veritas line.
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post #23804 of 47746
1/13/11 at 6:38pm
I am currently breaking in my RC-50s with a Nakamichi AVR-500. Unfortunately, I don't believe this receiver has the ability to highpass the RC-50s if (when) I add a sub to this setup. Any recommendations as to what would be appropriate to drive the RC-50s. I'm looking for something with a bit of power behind it because I do enjoy occasionally listening to 2.1 music at concert volume (not during my break-in period, of course). Also, something 5.x or 7.x would be nice, just in case I decide to expand. Thanks.
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post #23805 of 47746
1/13/11 at 7:09pm
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Originally Posted by filmfan214 View Post

I thought the cheap CB-5's might hold me over until then, but can anyone tell me if it will be a noticeable improvement? Is it worth it? They seem very similar to the Take's speakers but with a slightly larger woofer. I might consider stepping up to the CB-10s (and possibly but less likely the CB-20s). I'm not looking at towers though since I'll have to move them around.

Just my 2 cents worth - You should get out and listen to them before purchasing if possible - I've auditioned the CB-5's, CB-10's, CB-20's, CF-30's, and CF-70's in 2 different Magnolia rooms over the past week or so and liked the CB-5's, liked the CB-20's and liked the CB-70's. Didn't care for the CB-10's or CB-30's. YMMV...
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post #23806 of 47746
1/13/11 at 7:31pm
AudioVox has bought Klipsch and all its part. Story here.
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post #23807 of 47746
1/13/11 at 7:37pm
Reminds me of the acquisition of some formerly good bike brands by a baby furniture company out of Canada (Dorel, who now owns Cannondale, Schwinn, GT, Mongoose, Sugoi, etc). Audiovox makes Radio Shack look classy IMHO.
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post #23808 of 47746
1/13/11 at 7:58pm
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AudioVox has bought Klipsch and all its part. Story here.

Really worried by this. I am afraid the quality will suffer due to this acquisition.
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post #23809 of 47746
1/13/11 at 8:21pm
filmfan214 - Just to let you know the cb-5's are what seems to be 2 to 3 times larger than the Take satellites. When I saw actually how much larger they were I was surprised.

I know sometimes people use the rc-mini centers with the towers, like rc-30's and rc-50's. I thought by the same idea, the cb-5's would be okay with the take center. But I defer to the others' comments as they know better than I do.

If you do find that code for $80, could you update us with it.

(By the way I hate to admit it, but I should have tried that out by now (cb-5's for L & R in place of takes L & R). I set my parents up with Takes and an F12 (BIC). But I haven't really got to listen to them much. Haven't watched a movie over there and only listened to a limited amount of music. I also got them cb-5's for zone 2 stereo in an office but haven't hooked them up yet. (They keep complaining that they are too big to wall mount where they want them, but I think I'm going to mount them anyways (ha ha). They just want another pair of Takes mounted by themselves in that office. They just love the small size of the Takes. Every time I'm over there, it's just to visit, not to fine tune their system (another audyssey rerun) or a/b cb-5's and Takes...but I need to find time to do all of that after I order wall mounts.) So sorry everybody for not doing that by now.
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post #23810 of 47746
1/13/11 at 8:22pm
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Originally Posted by remedy1978 View Post

Really worried by this. I am afraid the quality will suffer due to this acquisition.

I wouldn't worry too much. Energy speakers had a fantastic reputation and even a bit of a following so it would be a poor "bottom line" decision to destroy a viable and respected product. The quality has probably been established in the last couple of years for where they will stay around. If you are happy with Energy compared to other brands now than I would expect the same in the future.
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post #23811 of 47746
1/13/11 at 8:59pm
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Originally Posted by Hank Mardukous View Post

Which older Veritas?

The 2.x i models.
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post #23812 of 47746
1/13/11 at 10:04pm
update to all those who helped me decide on RC30s and RC Mini. My first impressions from this setup.

- Jamo E660s have more prominent vocals/midrange than RC30s.
- RC30s - i did not need to put plugs in rear port. baas is excellent, tight. not boomy.
- RC30s - better separation and detail compared to Jamo E660s. not sure just because today was my first 3+ hrs listening day with RC30s - but i found it tiring, that i never felt with E660s. any thoughts?
- RC mini center- looks like it is not coping up with RC30s. i may add another center in series with RC min (black wire to 1st center's black terminal to 2nd center's black terminal, same for red - is that correct?)
- my Jamo Sub250 sounds better after changing phase to midway. but considering BIC F12.

and lastly, a question - should i play RC-30s at low volumes for some time? how low? i use it at -15db driven from HK AVR254 receiver.
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post #23813 of 47746
1/13/11 at 10:53pm
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Originally Posted by Hank Mardukous View Post

Ahh, you mean any of the 2. i models. Right?

right, the "X" is a blank, i.e. 2.xi means the line with 2.2i, 2.3i, 2.4i, 2.0Ri, 2.0Ci
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post #23814 of 47746
1/13/11 at 11:12pm
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Originally Posted by Hank Mardukous View Post

"is there a huge difference from the rc-50 to the rc-70."


I would say that there certainly is. The Energy RC 50 is a fantastic speaker that I couldn't justify spending the extra money for the RC 70. The specs didn't warrant it for me, and to try to audition speakers in Future Shop isn't the best. Their set ups are terrible even in their dedicated listening rooms (At least the ones that I have been in). I have been very happy with the RC 50 speakers for the last 2 years. I got one set new for $300 and another new for $700.
However with the Energy RC 70 sale for $1000 I bought a pair around Christmas. I have been breaking them in and they sound incredible. They sound as good straight out of the box as the RC 50 do after 2 years of being used! The RC 70 has a couple hundred hours on them now and they are sooo good I just bought another pair today! (the last pair from a Future Shop in Ontario)
The 50's are fantastic but the 70's are much much better. Clear, Clean, Lots of Bass and fun to listen to. These are awesome speakers.
My set up is now as close to perfect as I can afford and I am extremely happy with it. For music and HT it does an amazing job. I have RC 70 for fronts, RC LCR for centre, RC 50 for surrounds, RC 50 for rears and an Energy S10.3 sub. Soon to swap out a set of RC 50's for the new RC 70's

Can I ask what is your speaker setting on the receiver (small or large) for the RC 70 and RC LCR? I have both of the speaker but not sure about the setting.
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post #23815 of 47746
1/14/11 at 2:06am
Okay yeah newegg has the cb-5's priced at $100. Promotional code SPEAKERS114 takes off $20, down to $80. It only lets you purchase one pair at that price with that code. I bought a pair for myself. Then I went back in just to see if it would let me buy another pair with that code and it would not. So you can get one pair for $80.

I felt like I just had to get a pair for myself. (I've been promoting them for ever...ha ha.....you guys are probably sick of it by now)
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post #23816 of 47746
1/14/11 at 3:27am
If you're Canadian and looking for a complete RC package I saw this ad over on Audio Canucks. Where was this guy when I was building my system his price is awesome!

RC-70 x2
RC-LCR x1
RC-10 x4
ESW-V8 x1

$1599 for 7.1 package, or $1399 for 5.1
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post #23817 of 47746
1/14/11 at 4:45am
Wow that's an insane deal considering what the LCR is selling for...
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post #23818 of 47746
1/14/11 at 4:55am
Hi Guys

I am setting up a Home Theater area in my basement. The room has poured concrete floors with carpet. 7.5 foot drop ceilings. Room is L shaped and I am right in the crux of the L.

I currently have a Denon AVR - 3311 receiver that I have to sit down and read the manual as I have no idea how to use it. I also have 2 Energy C-200 series book shelf speakers.

I was thinking about picking up 2 cf-50 and the cc-10 to round out the system. Futureshop has the CF-50's on for $300 and the cc-10 on for $279

Is this a good way to go? I am so confused!
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post #23819 of 47746
1/14/11 at 5:38am
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Originally Posted by Hank Mardukous View Post

I love my 3808ci and hope you love your 3311 when you get it all set to how you like it. I would imagine though that that speaker and receiver combination would sound bright and maybe a wee bit tinny. If you like loud and bright it would probably be a good match.
I would try to find some used RC's if you can. What are the approximate dimensions of the L room?

I wish I new how to discribe this room. It is a full basement with a chunk cut out in one corner for the furnace room and a bathroom. Out side (long sides of the L) would be about 30 ft. Room width on both sides would be about 15 ft. I guess it is true... a picture really is worth a thousand words
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post #23820 of 47746
1/14/11 at 5:49am
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Okay yeah newegg has the cb-5's priced at $100. Promotional code SPEAKERS114 takes off $20, down to $80. It only lets you purchase one pair at that price with that code. I bought a pair for myself. Then I went back in just to see if it would let me buy another pair with that code and it would not. So you can get one pair for $80.

That's right, mphfrom77. I chatted with Newegg online last night after I posted here, and they informed me the deal started today. I think it only lasts until the 16th, though.

I ordered a pair as well. Then I went back and ordered a second pair after signing in with a different email. We will see if the order goes through. I did get a confirmation email, though.

ALSO, I found an Electronics Expo coupon code for the CC-5. It was posted in the Speakers forum in October, but I just had to give it a try. And it still works! Original price $198. Coupon code (LSDA0918) plus $15 shipping makes it $127.76. I decided to go for the CC-5 as opposed to ordering a 3rd set of CB-5s like batpig proposed.
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