Energy Owners Thread - Page 803

If you are looking to sell a pair of your 10's, I could help you finance the 70's a little bit.

Yeah, I've been amazed that the 50s and 30s haven't been cleared out entirely yet. Will probably bite on these if they're still available when I get done with work today. Deal with the consequences later.

I'm pulling for some 70s to come up in your color...

Also note that if you use Bank of America, you can get 3% cashback from Add It Up when purchasing from Buy.

My partner initially scoffed at the money I spent on the 50s, but now she loves them. I come home from work to find her blasting music on them routinely, and during movies, she's always impressed by the sound. She likes the way they look with the grills off. So it was money well-spent...

I don't need the RC-70s. My RC-10 and RC LCR setup is in my bedroom anyway. I've got way too many speakers at home already.

I actually need to buy some living room furniture. Not as fun as speakers but very functional.

You're SO not alone. Every time I get ready to pull the "final" trigger on RCs again, some new unbelievable sale comes along and super-sizes all my dreams. When I started, I didn't expect to get any towers--out of my financial league, too bass-heavy for my small apartment, need get my head out of the clouds and quit pretending to be a big shot. I want my guests to smile when they hear, not to laugh when they see.

Only, now that I have five channels of RC speakers, I can easily squeeze RC-30s into the budget; and if I can squeeze RC-30s, then I can manage a pair of RC-50s. Do I really want 50s? I don't think so; between my RC-10s and my RC-LCR, bass management is already something of an issue. But RC-50s will be so nice in, like, 3-5 years, when I move into a McMansion with a great-room, hardwood floors and 20' vaulted ceilings! Then again, following that line of thinking, I could upgrade indefinitely. There are users on this site who have a bona fide emotional disorder relating to this. Maybe it's cute for people who have more discretionary income than I do... for me, it would be much worse than most drug addictions. I can't tolerate that kind of money-hemorrhage on the regular, not without severe lifestyle damage.

Tough decisions. Tough decisions. Man. I think the go-large mentality made perfect sense when there didn't seem to be much RC to go around. Now... now, I need to act like I have some sense :-P

Heh heh, I still catch the odd "remark" about spending $1K on "speakers" here and there...lol.

Why is that an issue? I have no issues with mine.

I agree, money well spent. Especially when they should last me a good part of my life time.

My GF has no issue with me spending my money on what I want and neither do I since just one of her purses could have purchased a pair of 70s at full MSRP. To buy 70s when I can't sell the 50s is bad judgement and putting the 50s in storage with my 10s is silly. I'd have close to 1500 dollars of speakers not being used!

Fortunately, my partner doesn't have that purse problem.

We have the space to accommodate both the 70s and the 50s (50s could go into my office, which would be sweet). But we might be moving soon, and not necessarily into a bigger place. If I still lived in Manhattan, I wouldn't even be considering buying these...broke from paying rent on top of the space limits...

I have my 50's less than 6 inches from my wall and I don't have any issues. I've plugged one port each. The bottoms if I recall correctly.

I do have ~3-4 ft of space to the sides of my setup and my room is roughly 700 sqft of open loft for my kitchen, living and dining area. Maybe the vastness mitigates the bass somewhat. I power up with a Denon 1910 + Audyssey.

Luckily I don't pay rent anymore, but paying the Christmas credit card bill and booking a 7 day cruise in the Caribbean has not helped my financial situation. If only these came up a few months later

Nice, That LCR really works well with the 70's. Those Mirage speakers must be your babies. Have you ever had to refoam them?

I plugged both ports on my 50s and on my LCR as well. Haven't tried just plugging one. Right now, my biggest bass management issue come from the fact that one side of our room is open to the kitchen/dining area, and with the sub in the opposite corner, bass seems very directional. Haven't had the time to screw with that yet.

I initially thought the sub would make the 70s redundant, but reading what others have said about it providing detail in the mid-bass has changed my mind somewhat.

Ahhhh, your situation is a bit more complicated I see.....no sub on my end.
I'm afraid of upsetting the neighbors and I can't miss what I don't have so I'm holding out. I'd rather chase the great deals on the RCs than buy a sub that will be around in the future at the same prices.

Initially I thought I'd skip a sub, but it is nice for HT. Got the Ultra 10" on closeout for $220, and it matches the finish on the RC nicely.

That's an easy price to swallow. I've been dreaming of a HSU or ED in the $600 price range. I can always turn it down, but seems a waste not being able to use it to it's full potential. Good to know that it matches the RC ash finish nicely.

Just an update on my RC-30 tweeter... just received a reply from Audio Advisers, and they are sending a tweeter to me, no hassle. It has been a few months since my purchase so I wasn't sure if that would be an issue but they appear to be very easy to deal with.

Hopefully others won't have any issues with their speakers, but if you bought from AA don't hesitate to contact them.

I have 2xRC30s, RC-Mini CC and planning 2xCB-5s. 13'x17' room, appartment.

So looking for 8" powerful sub. shortlisted these two. v good reviews both, specially for music. diff being Prestige is 200w RMS/26hz, whereas ProSub800 is 300wRMS/20hz. any opinions?

i can't afford RC LCR or RC-Rs for now. so with this setup and room, will i be fine with CB-5 as surrs, or should I go for something bigger? under 150 a pair max..

I would think that what you have already done should be great. Remember that you will not be always sitting in the exact same position every time that you are watching the TV. Surely your head will not be in the same spot within the inch or so for the entire length of a movie. I'm sure you have the speakers angled very well using your laser. If you want, get someone else to help you angle your speakers so you can just sit on the couch while they move the speakers slightly to fine tune them. You will hear the sweet spot and then your work is done.

I agree it is funny. But it's fun really, watching this whole thing with Energy and taking part in it. It's really good for people who need speakers, of course.


Of course I posted this right before the 70's came back out. So bump.

Batpig would tell you to get the Mirage Prestige s8 for its tightness, musical capability and fit & finish. Urethane gloss black finish which looks better than a standard black ash subwoofer.

I think Batpig would be proud that people are able to provide his recommendations for him now so he can take a break haha.

I would

the only thing I will add to what Afro said is that Def Tech is notorious for "generous" specs, if you'll notice the claimed 20Hz low end is the "frequency response" but is not specified as -3dB or -2dB or anything. It's actually probably the -10dB point.

No 8" subwoofer can actually approach 20Hz with any authority; they will all generally be rolling off below 30Hz.

I bet performance between the two is fairly comparable, which gives the edge to the Prestige S8 for the much better aesthetics and build quality. Unless you want to hide it in a corner in which case the slightly narrower profile of the ProSub may be easier. The S8 has a huge rear port so it does need at least a few inches of "breathing room" from the back edge.

In the "compact" sub category I would also strongly the HSU STF-1 which is probably better than both the S8 and the ProSub. Somebody earlier in this thread did an A/B test with the S8 and the STF-1 and they were equal in "quality" but the STF-1 was capable of much more output.

such great inputs prompted me to validating something i plan to do. i found RC Mini CC small for my room, and so plan to put a CC-5 center in series with RC Mini center. major issues anyone see in that?
also next level of question - i know these two should be stacked one on one, so both are REALLY in center, but not possible for me. so i plan to place them side by side. is that a complete no-no?

having dual centers is not "orthodox" but it works fine and many have reported good results. Side-by-side is not really ideal because the tweeters will be far apart (may get some "smearing" or lack of clarity on vocals from the interference) but it will probably work fine if that's what you have to do.

That being said, you would be silly to do it with two MISMATCHED centers! if you are otherwise happy with the RC-Mini get another one.

better yet just get an RC-LCR

1) I definitely agree that the "cutout" area on the left (where the sofa is drawn) is the correct spot for the HT

2) That area is PERFECT for a DSX WIDE setup. It is wider than it is deep, and you have side walls to either side (so the "wide" speaker will not be sitting in the middle of the floor blocking foot traffic).


EDIT: in terms of placement, it looks like you will be about 10ft from the display (which will be at the far left centered on the wall). I would try to center the couch if possible (so the person on the right isn't way off axis) and maybe scoot it forward a bit so it's actually IN the little "alcove" cutout (placing you a bit in front of the potential surrounds.

That would mean that the L/R mains (RC-70) should be 8-12 feet apart. 8ft would give you a +/-20 degree spread (the minimum you want) and a full 12ft spread would be approx +/-30 degrees.

The space is 16ft wide so to achieve +/-60 degree spread on the WIDES (RC-10) you should be about 5-6 back from the wides, meaning they will be a few feet up from the side wall.

With the couch in the back, the surrounds will basically have to be to either side. No room for back surrounds unless you went in-ceiling (or ceiling mounted). I would just go 7.1 (5.1+WIDE) for the time being and see how it goes.

Is it worth an additional $286 to buy a pair of RC 70s versus RC 50s for the front? I am going to be using a BIC PL 200 sub with this.
Or should i just buy both and use RC 70s for fronts and RC 50s for either wides or surrounds?
I will be using it for 70% movies and 30% music
Thanks

Of coure we're going to say buy both and post pictures!

If you only get one pair, get the 70s so you never ask yourself, what if? I hear the 70's are in a class of there own with the addition of the dedicated midrange speaker.

I love my 50s, but if I had the opportunity to do it again I'd buy the 70s, no questions. I'd buy the 70's now if someone would buy my 50s. I know, it's getting old, but a guy can dream.

Thanks JP. How have the 50's treated you so far?
My other point I failed to mention is that this will be for my bedroom which is 14*12. So would both the 70's and 50's be overkill for this room? I have some space behind the bed to stow the speakers. I have the Tempur pedic rhapsody bed with the ergo frame that moves up and down thus eliminating the need for a sofa in the room which frees up some space . I just raise the head of the bed to a nice comfy angle to watch.

Also would just the 50's with the BIC PL 200 be sufficient for this room? I do have the money to buy both but I do not want to unnecessarily spend if there is not that much value in getting them.

Thanks for your help

Hi. New basement. Looking around for all new gear.

Best Buy is throwing in a pair of CB-5's and a ESW-C10 for free with the purchase of a pair of CF-50s and a CC10. Around $1100. Is this a good deal? Room I'd say is about 15' x 28'. I'm concerned that I won't be able to mount the rears. They seem sort of large to be mounted but thats the only way I can think of doing it. The rears will be mounted on a beam that runs through the center of the room.

I have Paradigm Titans upstairs that I have been satisfied with. (With Energy speakers as my rears.) I'm a little reluctant to buy anything from Best Buy but would like to hear what others think.