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post #24091 of 48172
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Originally Posted by raghu455 View Post

Thanks JP. How have the 50's treated you so far?
My other point I failed to mention is that this will be for my bedroom which is 14*12. So would both the 70's and 50's be overkill for this room? I have some space behind the bed to stow the speakers. I have the Tempur pedic rhapsody bed with the ergo frame that moves up and down thus eliminating the need for a sofa in the room which frees up some space . I just raise the head of the bed to a nice comfy angle to watch.

Ummmm......think about where you are asking this question.....i have a feeling you know what the answer will be.
post #24092 of 48172
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Originally Posted by kgallerie View Post

Ummmm......think about where you are asking this question.....i have a feeling you know what the answer will be.

That is true I think I will first pull the trigger on the 50's first for $269 shipped and see how they sound in my room. If they do the job for me then great. I already bought the BIC PL 200 sub. In case i feel i need better sound then probably will buy the 70s if they are still on sale for $379 + tax each and move the 50's for wides.

On a side note, would it be better to use the RC 50s as wide or would they be better utilized as surrounds? I have not yet pulled the trigger for my surrounds yet. Still looking.
Also the RC-LCR is something i need to look for if i can snag it for $300. I saw the deal for it yesterday but just missed the deal for $300 from5stardeal.com


Thanks
post #24093 of 48172
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Originally Posted by raghu455 View Post

That is true I think I will first pull the trigger on the 50's first for $269 shipped and see how they sound in my room. If they do the job for me then great. I already bought the BIC PL 200 sub. In case i feel i need better sound then probably will buy the 70s if they are still on sale for $379 + tax each and move the 50's for wides.

On a side note, would it be better to use the RC 50s as wide or would they be better utilized as surrounds? I have not yet pulled the trigger for my surrounds yet. Still looking.
Also the RC-LCR is something i need to look for if i can snag it for $300. I saw the deal for it yesterday but just missed the deal for $300 from5stardeal.com


Thanks

Buy the 70s and don't look back. Also, I would e-mail 5stardeal and see if they'll sell you an LCR for $300-- they still have a bunch up on ebay for $370.
post #24094 of 48172
I'm close to pulling the trigger on the rc-70 deal to upgrade my mains. I would also try and find a LC-LCR somewhere. I'm running 7.1 config with some older Optimus LX series bookshelf speakers for the surrounds (linaeum dipole tweeters.) I'm 90% movies in my home theater but feel just upgrading the front soundstage to Energys would be a HUGE improvement. Any opinions appreciated thanks.
post #24095 of 48172
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On a side note, would it be better to use the RC 50s as wide or would they be better utilized as surrounds?

wides for sure. The "wide" speakers are an extension of the front soundstage so they should be the same height and "family" as the front 3 speakers (L/C/R).

surrounds for movies should be a few feet above ear level, which is a bit hard with a tower if you have the proper room you should wall-mount surrounds a few feet up to either side.
post #24096 of 48172
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Originally Posted by automaton View Post

Buy the 70s and don't look back. Also, I would e-mail 5stardeal and see if they'll sell you an LCR for $300-- they still have a bunch up on ebay for $370.

Thanks for the suggestion. I called 5stardeal folks and they said it was only a 1 day special. Will try emailing them.
post #24097 of 48172
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post
wides for sure. The "wide" speakers are an extension of the front soundstage so they should be the same height and "family" as the front 3 speakers (L/C/R).

surrounds for movies should be a few feet above ear level, which is a bit hard with a tower if you have the proper room you should wall-mount surrounds a few feet up to either side.
Thanks for the suggestion. Will probably get the 50s for wide. So everyone here agrees that the $826/pair (with tax) at buy.com for the RC 70's are the best deal and should get them ASAP. Am about to pull the trigger on this.
post #24098 of 48172
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Originally Posted by raghu455 View Post
Thanks for the suggestion. Will probably get the 50s for wide. So everyone here agrees that the $826/pair (with tax) at buy.com for the RC 70's are the best deal and should get them ASAP. Am about to pull the trigger on this.
With your room I don't think you need wides. Get the 70s, see how they sound, and go from there. I have the 50s and the LCR in a room about that size-- with some bookshelfs for surrounds, it more than fills the room. I run at pretty low volumes mostly.
post #24099 of 48172
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Originally Posted by raghu455 View Post
.... So everyone here agrees that the $826/pair (with tax) at buy.com for the RC 70's are the best deal and should get them ASAP. Am about to pull the trigger on this.
Yea you better pull the trigger. I've had them in my cart 3 times, and I keep saying " RC-70,s or oil heat ...hmmm, maybe I can heat with the receiver running at full throttle! "

Lucky for you it's getting down to -15F this weekend
post #24100 of 48172
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Originally Posted by automaton View Post
With your room I don't think you need wides. Get the 70s, see how they sound, and go from there. I have the 50s and the LCR in a room about that size-- with some bookshelfs for surrounds, it more than fills the room. I run at pretty low volumes mostly.
Thanks for the input. Just pulled the trigger on the RC 70s! Will see how they sound.

May be I should also get the RC 50's for the wides and just return it if it does not do much in my room.
Any idea if we can easily return the RC 50's to Vanns within 15days? Do we need to pay any return shipping and what would that come to? Probably weighs a good 100pounds.
Anyone that has tried returning it, could you please share your experience.
Thanks
post #24101 of 48172
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Originally Posted by raghu455 View Post
Also the RC-LCR is something i need to look for if i can snag it for $300. I saw the deal for it yesterday but just missed the deal for $300 from5stardeal.com
Based on the suggestions from afrogt, now that I'm thinking about it, why don't you just snag an extra RC-70 to use as your center?
post #24102 of 48172
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Originally Posted by automaton View Post
Based on the suggestions from afrogt, now that I'm thinking about it, why don't you just snag an extra RC-70 to use as your center?
my tv is not wall mounted. so i would need something horizontal or the vertical tower would obstruct the view of the tv.
is it possible to lay this speaker down horizontally?
post #24103 of 48172
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Originally Posted by raghu455 View Post
Thanks for the input. Just pulled the trigger on the RC 70s! Will see how they sound.

May be I should also get the RC 50's for the wides and just return it if it does not do much in my room.
Any idea if we can easily return the RC 50's to Vanns within 15days? Do we need to pay any return shipping and what would that come to? Probably weighs a good 100pounds.
Anyone that has tried returning it, could you please share your experience.
Thanks
Trust me, it will do much! You won't be returning those. My front area is 14ft and I use wides. They are fairly close to the front L/R but it still greatly fills the gap between the sides and front, and expands the front soundstage.
post #24104 of 48172
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Originally Posted by raghu455 View Post
My other point I failed to mention is that this will be for my bedroom which is 14*12. So would both the 70's and 50's be overkill for this room?
I have a full nine channel RC set up (with RC-70 mains and RC-30 wides) in a room smaller than that!
post #24105 of 48172
are the rc lcrs that 5stardeals are selling good? has anybody here
bought from them on ebay? Is the rc lcr perfect, new and working?
post #24106 of 48172
I see we have more "believers" in the fold now
post #24107 of 48172
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Originally Posted by energy-man View Post
are the rc lcrs that 5stardeals are selling good? has anybody here
bought from them on ebay? Is the rc lcr perfect, new and working?
I bought from that seller, and my RC-LCR is perfect, new, and working. The seller does not double-box, so Energy's box took a beating, but there was no damage to the speaker itself. There was about a week between placement of the order and receipt of the package.
post #24108 of 48172
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Originally Posted by SaviorMachine View Post
I bought from that seller, and my RC-LCR is perfect, new, and working. The seller does not double-box, so Energy's box took a beating, but there was no damage to the speaker itself. There was about a week between placement of the order and receipt of the package.
where did they ship from? 1 week< what stae do you live in?
post #24109 of 48172
Mine shipped from Ohio, but this seller has several listings on eBay (some from China?). For mine I paid an exta $15 for UPS 2 day. My box showed up perfect. I know from experience that normal "UPS Ground" really beats up on stuff. As far as quality, I did have a minor defect but the seller dealt with me fairly I thought. (Search my posts to see).
Bob
post #24110 of 48172
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Originally Posted by knight_40k View Post
Trust me, it will do much! You won't be returning those. My front area is 14ft and I use wides. They are fairly close to the front L/R but it still greatly fills the gap between the sides and front, and expands the front soundstage.
Thanks for the vote of confidence.Guess it is time for me to pull the trigger on the RC 50s then
post #24111 of 48172
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Originally Posted by mesasone View Post
I have a full nine channel RC set up (with RC-70 mains and RC-30 wides) in a room smaller than that!
Oh that is very good info to know.. I also just contacted Vanns CSR for some info on returns and they said that I would have to pay return shipping and they estimated it to cost around $80 to $100 for the return.. Hmmm what to do.. Based on your input and knight_40k input it seems like i should definitely pull the trigger and give it a shot.
Will decide in another few hours if i should pull the trigger in the RC 50s for wides
post #24112 of 48172
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post
Why is that an issue? I have no issues with mine.
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Originally Posted by JP Licks View Post
I have my 50's less than 6 inches from my wall and I don't have any issues. I've plugged one port each. The bottoms if I recall correctly.

I do have ~3-4 ft of space to the sides of my setup and my room is roughly 700 sqft of open loft for my kitchen, living and dining area. Maybe the vastness mitigates the bass somewhat. I power up with a Denon 1910 + Audyssey.
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Originally Posted by automaton View Post
I plugged both ports on my 50s and on my LCR as well. Haven't tried just plugging one. Right now, my biggest bass management issue come from the fact that one side of our room is open to the kitchen/dining area, and with the sub in the opposite corner, bass seems very directional. Haven't had the time to screw with that yet.

I initially thought the sub would make the 70s redundant, but reading what others have said about it providing detail in the mid-bass has changed my mind somewhat.
Thanks for your advisement, both of you. It's one of the reasons why this site is great.

I was cooking up a long explanation for my current upgrade path, but here's a summary: in my space, the advantage of RC-50s over RC-30s relates mostly to pride of ownership. Both sets will produce terrific sound with more bass than I wish to allow.

If I go for the 30s, then I get to quit bleeding cash on speakers right now, and move on to the rest of my life. In two years, maybe two weeks, that smug jerk in the corner of my brain will start in on the "coulda this, shoulda that," and it'll take some rationalization to be OK with everything that jerk has to say.

If I go for the 50s, then the bleed-out continues two more weeks (bills to pay at this time of the month), and is increased by $140 dollars--both of which costs are negligible in the long term. That jerk-face in my brain will shut the eff up forever and I'll feel slightly more pressure to explain myself to friends who stop by. I'll giggle more, though, I mean I'll giggle a hell of a lot more.

I was rationalizing myself into committing to the RC-30s, on the basis of the fact that the sonic character of my system changed so dramatically once I swapped an RC-LCR into the space where my RC-Mini-CC once lived. Both of my LCR's ports are plugged and I'm confident that they'll stay that way until I move out of my apartment--otherwise, its lower-end presence is just too strong, and hurts the speaker's speech-intelligibility. And now you guys are all "buy the 50s and plug them." Are you in cahoots with that jerk in my brain?

I know! Somebody spot me $140 and let me end this consumer-whore's dance right here and now
post #24113 of 48172
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Originally Posted by energy-man View Post
where did they ship from? 1 week< what stae do you live in?
Mine shipped from Ohio, and I'm one state over. He took his time shipping--about five business days--but once it was shipped, I had it the next day.
post #24114 of 48172
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Originally Posted by JP Licks View Post
Another chance to pick up some 70s and my 50s are weighing me down. I do love my 50s though and my GF tends to think sometimes more than her.

When I began this whole process almost a year ago I thought, wow, I will never be able to buy any of those sweet looking towers. I jumped in when the 10s we running $300/pr and I bought 2 pairs.

Next the 30s and 50s prices tanked and I dove on the 50s since I had already had 10s. Now everything is bargin basement pricing and I regret not having a tad more patience to see the grand scheme. Now with the 70s so low it's hard to unload my 50s for much money since you can spend a bit more and get the "best" 70s. Ahh hindsight....a cruel mistress.
It seems the cherry and rosenut finishes hold their value better. I see that Buy.com has rosenut RC-30's listed for $499 each, from WWStereo. Now I'd go for some RC-70's at bargain prices if they were in cherry
post #24115 of 48172
Ok I just pulled the trigger on the RC 50s too for the wides!

Big day! First the RC 70s for the fronts for $826 with tax from buy.com and now the RC 50s from Vanns for $540 for the wides! I just hope it would be good purchase for my 14*12 room!. Hope i dont need to return the RC 50s as it will cost $100 to ship them back!
I already have the BIC PL 200 sub. Hope this sub is good enough to pair with the RC 70s. Read good reviews here and most said it is a definite upgrade over the legendary BIC F12s!

Just need to get some surrounds, a RC-LCR and a decent AVR and I am all set!

Am considering the Onkyo HT RC 270 because it has pre outs for future and has some other cool features like VGA i/p and Pandora. It was on sale for $400 sometime back. Hoping it comes back on sale soon!
post #24116 of 48172
Buy.com's 70 stock has dried up. Time to play the waiting game again.
post #24117 of 48172
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Originally Posted by SaviorMachine View Post


I was rationalizing myself into committing to the RC-30s, on the basis of the fact that the sonic character of my system changed so dramatically once I swapped an RC-LCR into the space where my RC-Mini-CC once lived. Both of my LCR's ports are plugged and I'm confident that they'll stay that way until I move out of my apartment--otherwise, its lower-end presence is just too strong, and hurts the speaker's speech-intelligibility. And now you guys are all "buy the 50s and plug them." Are you in cahoots with that jerk in my brain?

I know! Somebody spot me $140 and let me end this consumer-whore's dance right here and now

If you search upthread a bit, someone posted a chart with the frequency response for 70s (could have been the 50s?) with the ports unplugged that showed a spike in the lower frequencies-- so the bass response isn't smooth b/c the extra bass comes from the ports. Someone please correct if I'm explaining it wrong. By plugging the ports, you're not wasting bass, especially if the ports are firing into a wall. Mine are about a foot away from the wall, angled in, and still sound boomy with the ports unplugged. Don't have room to pull them out any further.

Well, I'm home from work now and still haven't pulled the trigger. Actually surprised they still have any left.

EDIT: Oh well, no 70s for me. I'm at peace with it.
post #24118 of 48172
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Originally Posted by raghu455 View Post

Ok I just pulled the trigger on the RC 50s too for the wides!

Big day! First the RC 70s for the fronts for $826 with tax from buy.com and now the RC 50s from Vanns for $540 for the wides! I just hope it would be good purchase for my 14*12 room!. Hope i dont need to return the RC 50s as it will cost $100 to ship them back!
I already have the BIC PL 200 sub. Hope this sub is good enough to pair with the RC 70s. Read good reviews here and most said it is a definite upgrade over the legendary BIC F12s!

Just need to get some surrounds, a RC-LCR and a decent AVR and I am all set!

Am considering the Onkyo HT RC 270 because it has pre outs for future and has some other cool features like VGA i/p and Pandora. It was on sale for $400 sometime back. Hoping it comes back on sale soon!

Call some local best buys. you can find an open box Pioneer Elite Sc-25 for around $400. Will end up being closer to $500 maybe with tax and buying the mic or any other accessories that are missing but it is a $1500 AVR
post #24119 of 48172
After a month of debate on the RC50s or Polk M70s....I got in on the Buy.com deal for the RC-70s! After weeks of debate my long suffering wife is actually happy to not have to listen to anymore specification comparisons..(try this technique on your significant others. You know they are beaten when the eyes glaze over at the word "tweeter".)

I am rather excited, I thought these were sold off in the woot deal last year.

Now a question for the experts...my AVR is a pioneer VSK 1020. Enough for the job?
post #24120 of 48172
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Originally Posted by JP Licks View Post

Buy.com's 70 stock has dried up. Time to play the waiting game again.

Ya good thing I did not hesitate too much and just went ahead and bought it. Thanks to AVS forums for helping me make the decision!!
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