Energy Owners Thread - Page 100

I think the RC-LCR is one of the best center speakers (of it's size/range) available. It's a true 3-way design, providing very good off-axis listening, as well as excellent separation of voices/instruments (for good dialog and music). Very explosive low-end for dynamic movie scene's.

Hello guys, total newbie here. Having said that I have spent alotta time researching what I was going to buy. Here's what I have so far :

14g speaker wire with rocketfish bananas at both ends (bi-wired fronts and centre)
Denon AVR-988 Receiver
Energy Speakers:
RC-30 Fronts
RC-LCR Centre
RC-R Sides
C-R100 Rears

All the reviews iv read seem to indicate the denon goes well with all these speakers.
My front room is an odd size so for the rears and sides i wanted a speaker that would throw sound all around.

So maybe you can all help me with a sub to go with all this. Every time i visit my local FS they try and push the velodyne 12" or 15" on me. I have heard the Energy 10" but have not heard the 12" (FS doesn't even appear to carry it). i dont need another coffee table so i dont want a huge thing takin up alotta space. So I think it's either the velodyne 12" or the energy 12". Have any of you heard both and maybe can ya offer up some advice ? ? Is there a huge gap between the S10.3 and the S12.3 subs ?

I think the gap is definitely noticeable. The 12.3 definitely has more authority and overall depth and output in the sound. The 10.3 is a pretty decent sub, but if it was between the Velodyne 12" and the Energy 10", I'd take the Velodyne (The DPS12 is the one I'm referring to). If it was between the 12.3 and the Velodyne DPS12, that would be a lot harder.

So, I don't think this has been asked anywhere here....anyone hear the Energy TempestII's? Looking to replace my current outdoor speakers and can get a good price but have not seen a single review of these puppies, can't imagine they would not sound good..

Gary,

You have a similar set-up to mine, atleast in the front, and I went with the Velodyne DPS-12. It goes pretty deep and sounds clear on the lows, I'm happy with it. I however, am in the same boat as you, having not heard the S12.3. If you want to buy it blind with out hearing it I can only suggest you try looking on Ebay, I saw one floating around for $580...shipping is another story. Heres the link
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ENERGY-S12-3-SUBW...QQcmdZViewItem

or try Audio Advisor, these guys love it and they do have great prices.
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo...mber=ENS12%2E3

Another thing to take into account is, with subs, 8's and 10's are mostly for music, and 12's are home theater, so it depends what you are using it for. Also, depending on the room size you have your system in, you may not need a 12. I think its always better to buy big and not need it, than have to spend more replacing it later a few years down the road because it just isn't cutting it. Just my opinion though.

Gotta agree with you on that point Knight. I have had all 3 of them during my upgradeitis and if you could Gary, go for the 12. I am very pleased with my Energy...no plans ( yet ) to get anything else. There was a pretty substantial difference between the 10 and the 12, like Knight said, better umphh for HT, and still excellent for music....

thanx for the advice - i agree, i'd rather go a little bigger even if i have to turn it down once in a while. I'll keep an eye out for a good 12" i think.

I am now proud to annouce that I just called Audio Advisor and ordered a pair of RC-10 in rosenut to replace my C-100 in my computer system. From now on, only Energy RC series will be in my home... and all in rosenut.

I live in Canada so I guess it will take a week and a half or so to get them. It's the demo version but as I could tell from other people on the forum, they look new. Minor scratches, at worst. 68$ for regular fedex shipping (quebec, canada) - for a total of 367$. I hope they won't get caught at the border.

I'll try to sell my 2 years old, perfect condition C-100. I bought them 250 new. How much do you guys think they are worth?

for 800$ I'd listen to the ESW-V10 at futureshop. It's 750... you can surely bargain it a bit. There is a HUGE difference in sound quality between the ESW and the S.

How big is your room? What are your other speakers? How often do you listen to movies vs music?

I wouldn't worry about scratches at all. I bought two pair's in rosenut, and all four of them are in perfect brand new condition. Not a scratch on them, and they sound great! What a gorgeous speaker!

Just curious, but how did you plug the C-100s into your sound card? Do you use speaker wire and banana plugs or what? Does it go in like a pair of computer speakers? Because I also have a pair of C100s sitting around collecting dust and I'd like to put them to use, maybe on my computer.

You're missing a step: you need an amp. Out from sound card to amp, from amp to speakers.

Sorry bud. Got 700$ of power pushing it! :P You're not that close to glory yet! haha.

NAD Integrated. One of my best electronic buys. Still don't regret it and I think I never will. That brand blends SO well with the Energy's.

which model NAD?

320BEE (will be pushing the RC-10 in a week or so)

Very modest power but clean and lots of overhead. Serving as my computer system, mainly for background music while working or firing it up while I shave in the bathroom That's why I woud die for one of those 150watts 5ch. amp. Would be lovely with my RX-V1800 serving as a pre, pushing my RC-70 like they were meant to be.

I've been looking at the "D" class amps myself. Supposed to have a 'smooth' almost 'tube-like' sound, at least the "ICE" ones do. Though the new amp from Axiom intrigues me and I've been watching that one closely. However, I'd really like to hear these things first before I run out and buy one (which won't be for awhile anyway, as I have other important things to buy right now).

Though driving the RC-70's with an HK PA2000 (providing 100 watts/ channel though probably closer to 120) is plenty I'd like to have more.

The 70s on my RX-V1800 is not that bad either. Plenty of kicks. I think we are just addicted. There is no gauge that says: ok now you have enough power.

you're right, this is a nice previous generation NAD power unit the will drive the RC-10's pretty good.
http://www.nadelectronics.com/img/da...AD_C320BEE.pdf


yeah, there you go. I would wait and get something with 200W per/chan minimum (actually more like 250W X 5), you will really like how it works with the RC-70's. Very nice and smooth sounding at lower/moderate levels, improved control.

I really can't think of something more. Right now the receiver is doing the job. I wanted something decent and got it. 5-6K$ doesn't fit my budget right now.

Quick question, is this how I would plug this amp in to a Receiver, through the "send" with an RCA cable?... I'm thinking of powering my RC30s with a 2 channel amp.

I could be a 12v discrete that is meant to do remote power on either from or to another amp with a 12v remote turn on. So if your other amp has a 12v remote turn on output, then you would connect it to the receive on the Carver and when you turn on the main amp, this one will power up too. OR.. it could be a control signal to daisy chain components together.

Take a multi-meter and probe it and see if it is 12v dc. on the "send" when you turn it on, or if the voltage varies when you put control commands through it.

Sorry I'm not more help.

Try downloading the manual here... http://www.hifiengine.com/manuals/carver/pm-15.shtml

Would either of these work?
1. RC-10s left & right with RC minis for center & surrounds?
2. C-100s left & right with C-50s center & surrounds?
Thanks

rover, in my humble opinion as an Energy dealer, either of those options will work fine. Last December I had a client do the same configuration with the RC-10s that you are think of and he is very happy.

Hope this helps.

TDI I was considering getting new speakers for my parents to replace the JVC HTIB setup. I thought about doing this:

1) Energy C-200 fronts
2) Energy C-C100 center
3) Energy C-50 rear.

What do you think?

I never heard how these speakers sound nor do I have a place to hear them but they seem popular. Their room is probably 18 by 13 or so. But the way it's laid out I they aren't capable of putting down any towers. Thanks.

these will work very well for that space, especially for home-theater surround, your parents will be very happy. Very good sounding speakers for the price. You may also want to consider using a sub with this set-up (maybe one of the Energy subs- S8.3, S10.3, or S12.3, etc.,...).

Cool. I first thought about eD but they don't have the color that matches their furniture. Not a factor to me but would be to them. 2nd. I thought about the Polks but then I looked at the Energy's and they just seem to have better range..

I just need to find a center speaker stand to put the C-C100 onto to place behind the TV to place the speaker above the TV.

Thanks

I had a look around today at prices for the two series and WOW!! there is a big old price gap here in HK for the two, So i think i'll go the C-series route.
I'm still not to sure on the C-100s or 200s, also as expected the shop guy was a bit pushy on me getting a dedicated center speaker rather than a bookshelf, this annoys me as i'm now 2nd guessing myself! Should i? should i not? kind of thing.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks WestCoast for the assist! Your input in this thread is invaluable. Wish I could offer you a job

I'm considering the following:
- Energy C-200 (fronts)
- Energy RC-Mini Center (center)
- Energy RC-Mini Satellites (rear)
I'm considering the larger fronts (instead of RC-Minis all around) because I listen to music as well as movies. What will be the effect of mixing the larger fronts with the smaller center?

Also, I'm not too familiar with Energy speakers. How do the Energy C-200s compare to the Polk RTiA1? (A friend has those Polks, so they are my "reference"). I think I prefer a sharp, clean sound, but I haven't experienced enough good speakers to be a good judge of speakers.

Thanks.

I haven't heard the newer 'A" Polks, only the series before that - a/b'd in the same room against the Energy's. You have to listen for yourself, but my impression was that the Polks were far too forward and no depth to them, and seemed to have much weaker midrange. The Energy had as much detail as the Polks, and in fact moreso, as they have much more depth to their sound, but they are not forward and in your face.

If you like in your face highs, Energy may not be for you, but you do have to listen first and then make your own judgement.