Energy Owners Thread - Page 12

50 to 60 per channel all channels driven, look at the reviews of the 74, same amp section judging by weight, size, looks:


http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/art...&page_number=3


BTW this stuff really belongs in this forum: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=691770

vsx-56txi. I have this one, it really does have over 90 watts per channel all channels drive, but it weight 9 pounds more, has far larger capacitors and a larger power supply. They lowered the price, took out power and added features with the 74 and 84 (besides switching to a more efficient amplifier design). These companies know that most people want a high power spec when they buy a receiver (regardless of the reality) so they put the details in the fine print as to what the spec is.

It is sort of like saying a Yugo has a top speed of 200 MPH then qualifying it in the back of the manual by stating the spec is for when it is falling off a tall cliff.

ugh! I need an editor! "all channels driven" + "it weighs"

It is a good receiver, just not a powerhouse, but should still be plenty of power with an 80 hertz cross over. I have Energy Veritas 2.3s bi-amped (although with the power steering it really makes very little difference)

yeah, this topic belongs moreso in the receivers/processors thread.

Thanks for your input..........

Hey guys,
I have been looking around and came across the Energy RC10's, but have not heard much feedback at all on them.
Anyone here have an opinion on them?

Heres a good review about the RC-10's for you to check out.

http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/energy_rc10.htm

one comment, in this article/review, I find very much right-on-point is (quote):

"the level of detail apparent with the RC-10s inspires pride of ownership and a confidence that all aspects of the speaker design were thoroughly considered and implemented with meticulous care. Not only will all of your friends think that you've spent much more, you can be assured that Energy takes pride in its products."

I think this is true for the [complete] RC-Series, and many other Energy models.

I really wish Energy would release another bookshelf speaker utilizing the same woofer as in the RC-50 and RC-70 to add some extra bass for larger rooms.

yeah.........I see what your saying.

The RC-10 is really the only "book-shelf" model in the RC line (I don't think you can include the new RC-Mini).

A new model, with the larger woofer, would be nice. Also would seem to be a great market piece for Energy.

I just brought home an Energy s10.3 sub to replace my BIC America Venturi. I auditioned the sub in a custom home theater shop that had an auditioning room about the same size as the room I am using. I was impressed enough to bring it home after thinking about it for only a few days but I haven't seen many others reporting they are using it.

Generally, what are the impressions with this sub? I have also read that this is similar to the Mirage S10. Are they similar or actually the same sub?

So far, I'm having fun with it but I'll put it through the paces tonight with a little War of the Worlds.

How would you guys compare the new C-R100 to the older C-R1 rear channel speakers? I want to add two additional rear speakers so I can have 7.1 audio. I currently have two C-R1's in the rear and I can add another two C-R1's for $175.00 each. However, I know a site that is selling the new C-R100's for $109.00 each and it will save me some cash going in this route. Will there be a noticeable sound difference if I combine the C-R100 with the C-R1? And if I do combine the two, which should I use for my main rear-channel: the C-R100 or the C-R1?

Very good sub. I have an S8.3 sub, sound's nice. Good quality, good price.

Although, I hear the [new] RC-Sub's are even nicer. They're just hitting the market right now.

yeah..........Mirage is part of the API (Audio Products International, Inc.) group. So these sub products may share similiar framework as Energy sub's. For example, the "elliptical surround" is an Energy patented design.

The Mirage S8, S10, S12 are identical to the Energy S8.3, S10.3, S12.3, except for some minor front panel styling and control placement.

There's a new series of Mirage subs to match the Energy RC-SUB series as well, and again they're essentially identical. As far as I know only the RC-SUB 10 and perhaps RC-SUB 8 are out right now.

They're all supposed to be pretty good, especially for the money.

The [new] C-Series have much different speaker composition from the older Connoisseur series. The new drivers have fiberglass cone's, while the tweeter's are somewhat similiar aluminum dome configuration (like Connoisseur models). Consequently, overall sound characteristics, when comparing the new C-Series to the older Connoisseur series, may vary. I believe the older Connoisseur series may be "brighter" than the new C-Series.

However, for rear channel use these potential differences may [not] be as critical. I would use the new C-R100's, no problem. Beautiful design & construction, especially for the price.

Of course, it would be nice to have complete voice-matching set- ie. using C-R1's. If you choose to spend the extra money. If they are brand-new it may be worth it. Otherwise the new C-Series are a better value, I think.

NAD T973 7chan power amp, NAD C163 Pre/Pro, Yamaha DVD-S1500

Energy Reference Connoisseur series: RC-70's for mains, RC-30's towers for rears, RC-LCR center and on order the RC-Sub10
All in Black

MIT Terminator 3 cables for mains, MIT Terminator 4 for center channel
Belkin Pure-AV PF-31 power conditioner

Thats my current set up. I am using the spare two channels on my NAD to bi amp the RC-70's
And after 4 months energy just told me i can't get the RC-Sub yet in cherry and it'll be piano black.. I should have that within the next two weeks.


GO ENERGY!


although i did hear a rumor through our rep.. that API is selling itself off and that KLIPSCH is working a deal to buy ENERGY from API.. BLAH.. I hope klipsch doesn't get it.. cause klipsch is like the complete opposite in sound quality.

hey ngl,

Good to hear from another NAD/Energy user. I've got the RC-70's and the NAD T743 and I think they sound excellent together.

Where are you getting the RC-sub from? Would you mind saying how much you're getting it for? It's too bad about the cherry colour, that's what I'd like to get. Did they say when it would be available?

Guess I'll chime in as well. My HT runs the older C-2s as mains and AC-300 center powered by an NAD S250 amp along with a Sherwood P-965 pre/pro. I've also got a second NAD amp (C352) that I'll be using to drive a set of Veritas 2.3i's for 2-ch music. Very nice. Energy and NAD provide great sound for your dollar, and one could argue that the Veritas will hold their own against speakers costing much more.

NAD goes well with about anything, NHT, PSB, you name it!

Getting my RC-Sub10 from a place in New Hampshire : State Street Discount
they are setting me up with the sub for $899 the guy quoted me.. just waiting for them to recieve them.
They have a website.. for some reason i can't put it in here.. but it's statestreetdiscount with the appropriate w's and coms

I hope its a really good sub cause i'm passing up on the other two deals they have there.. they have a Boston Acoustics PV1000 for $699 and a Definitive Supercube for $899 which are two ridiculously good deals.. but I want all my stuff to match just cause i'm an Energy nut.

I couldn't agree more that the NAD's are excellent sources for power for "low" dollars. love the smoothness i get from the whole setup. The imaging in the energy's are amazing, such a wide sound field. I think it'll be even better when i get the sub so that i can install the port blocks.
GO ENERGY

After reading this I thought I would checkout the API web site. There is a link at the bottom of their home page for what appears to be a new Energy line called "Energy Pro". I'd post the URL but since this is my first post I'm not allowed.


Has anyone heard about this new line from Energy?

ugh, that would be a disaster. i hope it was just a rumor.

Energy Pro, as far as I'm aware, is a specialty division of products designed primarily for the studio market. I was told, by a major Bryston rep, that they (Bryston) were a major partner in development for this new line of Energy products. Bryston Limited's web-site used to list "Energy Pro" as a link (under "Products" tab) and provided direct sales information in regards to these Energy products. Now it has been removed (I noticed), and, instead, I see a new link for PMC Loudspeakers.

Although it will be interesting to see whether Energy (or API) will eventually market these products to a more mass-market.

Otherwise, have'nt seen any rumors of API being sold to Klipsch. I hope [not].

Ok, Here is what I plan on doing.....

(2) RC-70 (Left and Right)
(1) RC-LCR (Center)

Here is the other problem I have, the rears....this will be for a 5.1 Set-up.

I am thinking about doing either 2 more RC-LCR for my rear speakers or my other option is doing 2 RC-R.........

What is everyone's thinking on this, what will sound better?

And a RC-Sub10 for my subwoofer, I also plan on getting the new Pioneer Elite 84 Series Receiver...........

And finally, one last question, I know the RC-70's need a seperate AMP, but do the center and the rears? The AMP I plan on getting will be from Sunfire, but the fact of wheather I get a two-channel or a five channel is undecided.....PLEASE HELP!

If I can I would just go with a Denon Receiver to power this 5.1 System. Perhaps the 2807? or the 2807 with the Sunfire 300 as the AMP? How would this sound? Or do I just do something like a Denon 3806 or a 4306? Thanks agian

The SunFire amp would definitely drive the RC-70's more efficiently. If you can afford the 5-channel go for it! (for example- TGA-5200) That way you can have a more efficient 5.1 HT system with matching power- killer system!

At least nice to have 3 [equal] amplifiers to power Front Left, Center, Front Right.

Have fun!

I listen to a lot of music like 90/10 so i chose to use towers for my rears. I like them the best.. I am actually going to get the RC-50s for my rear and sell my RC-30's for like 650 just because i can haha. (any takers pm me.. have all original packaging, black finish in perfect condition.)

anyway.. if you don't like towers as rears i'd just use their surround speakers.. they are awesome.. they remind me of the veritas with the ability to adjust for corners or whatever.

The RC-70's are the most efficient speaker in the line. They don't require a seperate amp at all.

Well...........I finally got the latest evolution of my HT/Audio system up and running smooth now.........

Added an NAD C272 amp (150W X 2) along with my Yamaha RX-V1600 (pre-pro/amp). Using Audio Quest DiamondBack interconnect's from Yamaha pre-out's to NAD input's. All other connections are Monster.

Speakers are RC-30 front's, RC-LCR center, and RC-Mini's for surrounds. Speaker cable's are custom made, bi-wire configuration.

I'm using 2 Monster HTS-1600 power conditioners (to distribute the current draw)- one dedicated to the NAD amp & Yamaha receiver (two high-current sources), the second power's all other components (ie. DVD player, DVR-Hard Drive, Cable Box, Sub and LCD TV).

2-channel music (in "Pure" mode) is beautiful! Big, clean sound-stage, smooth, deep bass. NAD C272/RC-30's make for a very nice combo. Those of you who happen to like Chick Corea get his latest CD "The Ultimate Adventure", tell me what you think of the sound on your Energy RC-Series tower's.

Multi-channel music is very nice as well for DVD-A and SACD format's. The RC-Mini's pick up the rear very effectively, provide a big sound for their size. RC-LCR carry's the voice as if the singer is sitting right in front on many selections. Of course each recording has it's own "mix". Listen to James Taylor's "Hour Glass", very nicely balanced recording (SACD). Also, Grover Washington "Wine Light", and Fleetwood Mac's "Rumor's" are two nice sounding DVD-A's for your Energy RC-Series system.

Dolby Pro-Logic 5.1, for HD cable broadcast's, is very nice. Both the NAD and Yamaha amp's integrate well to provide a very "seamless" HT surround system, especially the front (L-C-R) stage. The RC-LCR really matches nicely with the RC-30's- become's one large "virtual" speaker. I watched a few scene's from "Batman Begin's", what an "explosive" set-up! Can't wait to watch a few DVD movies.

Right now I have all speakers set to "small". Crossover is set for 120Hz (as per Energy recommendations), due to the higher frequency range of the RC-Mini's. The manual explains to be careful playing at high levels with cross-over less than 100Hz. Although I plan to experiment.

Overall, seem's to be a lot of system for my living-room size (small apartment). The RC-30's are [more] than enough for front mains, and the RC-Mini's are small enough to tuck away in the corners but still give a big sound- also easy to mount on wall's.

Only, now it's so hot in southern california I'm paranoid to operate the system too long. Temperature's have averaged well over 93 degrees for almost a month straight.

See what you think!

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Yamaha RX-V1600
NAD C272
RC-30 front's
RC-LCR center
RC-Mini surround's
S8.3 sub
2 Monster HTS-1600 power conditioner's
Sony DVPNS90V DVD/DVD-A/SACD player
Sony RDRHX715 DVR-Hard Drive
Scientific Atlanta SA8300HD cable box
HP LC2640N 26" LCD-HDTV
Bello 622T stand

man these little speaker's are cool!