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post #33391 of 47769
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Originally Posted by ooHe0Eejem1 View Post

Can you tell me how the Reference Connoisseur line stacks up to the Veritas line? I have C-9's now and they sound great, but now that I am moving into a dedicated theater, I want to move up a little, can you tell me how big of a leap is the reference is to the original Connoisseur and also how big is the leap from the Connoisseur to the veritas line? Thanks

Well I have owned both the C9s and the RC70s at the same time and did A/B them. The sound is quite similar, the C9s are just a touch livelier. The C9s had larger cabinets and I believe this was beneficial, but the front port may have helped too. The big difference is cosmetics the 70s have real wood veneers, at least better looking kevlar drivers, and gold biamp binding posts.

The new Veritas 6.3, I havent owned nor listened to, I did check them out at Future Shop. I will be honest, I wasnt that impressed. They are gloss black and Rosenut (strawberry)...in reference to the ebay chocolate 70s) is available. To each his own but I prefer the seperate trim rings on the mid and tweeter of the 70s as compared to the all in one trim ring on the 6.3s. The 6.3s look at little cleaner on the front as the magnet grill studs are hidden. I actually like seeing the stud things on the 70s as I prefer the more industrial look. One more thing, I prefer the gold binding posts of the 70s vs the silver posts on the 6.3s. The RCs have a true 3 way center speaker compared to the new Veritas 2 !/2 way or whatever they call it. Oh ya I almost forgot the cabinet on the 6.3s is not quite as deep.
Now there is another factor to consider, when I checked out the 6.3s they were priced at $1900 each in Canada. I paid $1200 for the pair of 70s. So did that make a difference, totally. Now if I had to do it all over and the 70s were $1200 for the pair and the 6.3s were $1600 for the pair, I might own 6.3s today. Even with the now cheaper Veritas prices or sales, the price difference is still going to ad up on a 5.1 or 7.1 system purchase.
Maybe someday when the Veritas are being blown out I will get a new system and pass the RCs down to my son, just like I did with my C9 system.

So to answer your question about the step ups in the series, look and sound preference is really subjective. You may want to check the different series out in person. You might just love the new Veritas.
I hope I didnt piss to many people off about my Veritas comments, but for me now I like my RCs and wont be parting with them any time soon.
post #33392 of 47769
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Originally Posted by CalgaryCowboy View Post

Vanns sale has ended. Could you share where you can get them for $750?

Calgary, I searched on Amazon and saw it listed by HIDEF Lifestyle.
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I agree that getting rid of RCs to get V series is not worth it. Now adding or starting for scratch is another question. Future shop has had the V6.3s at $1250 a couple of times now. Just wish they carred the full line up including the 5.1s

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Originally Posted by darcman View Post

I hope I didnt piss to many people off about my Veritas comments, but for me now I like my RCs and wont be parting with them any time soon.
post #33394 of 47769
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Originally Posted by CalgaryCowboy View Post

I agree that getting rid of RCs to get V series is not worth it. Now adding or starting for scratch is another question. Future shop has had the V6.3s at $1250 a couple of times now. Just wish they carred the full line up including the 5.1s

Ya but if I walked into a Future Shop and they were blowing out the 70s at $1200 for the pair and the 6.3s were $1250 each, without a doubt Id be leaving with 70s. On boxing day last year the 70s were only $1000, the trouble was they didnt sell any of the other RCs anymore. There was a guy buying some polks at the time, I tried to tell him to get the 70s, he bought the cheaper polks.
Hey thanks for not taking it the wrong way about the 6.3s. Im sure you love yours and if I didnt have anything for the right price Id be a proud owner.

By the way werent you looking for one of these, I know they ship to Canada
Shipping wouldnt be that much and still alot cheaper than FS

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Verit...item5646f68cd8
post #33395 of 47769
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Originally Posted by HammerDE View Post

Calgary, I searched on Amazon and saw it listed by HIDEF Lifestyle.

Oh and for the holiday sales Vanns will price match, so you can get the same price at Vanns that way.
post #33396 of 47769
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Originally Posted by Macstatic View Post

Oh and for the holiday sales Vanns will price match, so you can get the same price at Vanns that way.

Also if you buy from HiDef and they sell out then Vanns won't price match as there isn't any more stock at that price haha.
post #33397 of 47769
yep - I called Vanns and they priced matched my V-6.3s against the HIDEF Lifestyle on Amazon. They did the same for my V-5.2-C. I've had the Veritas for a few days now and I'm still blown away. I'm eager everyday to get home from work to listen to them. I think Calgary summed it up very well in his comparison. If you are starting from scratch and have the budget, go for the V-6.3s...they're stunning in every which way. If you already have the RC-70s, then I think the upgrade would still be an improvement, but it would be less of a jump sound wise and more of a jump aesthetically...but an upgrade in both nonetheless.
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IMO, the Veritas 6.3 makes a better dual purpose speaker than the RC-70.

IMO, for music in Direct Mode (no EQ) the 6.3's just sounded better. They are less congested in the bass/mid-bass and I like the flat response in the top-end vs the 70's roll-off.

IMO, for HT, maybe treble roll-off favors the RC-70 (because of bright soundtracks), but with all the calibration features and options available on AVR's (like Denon Cinema EQ to soften treble), the slight lead of the RC-70 comes out to a wash.

That being said, I do feel very forunate to have the Veritas 1.8 for dedicated music listening, and am very very happy with my RC-70 setup for HT. If I could only have one set of speakers, and didn't already have one or the other, I would definetely go for the Veritas 6.3's (considering price at $1200 for black ash RC-70 and $1600 for Rosenut 6.3). The only question is whether I would use an RC-LCR or a 5.2 for the center!
post #33399 of 47769
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Originally Posted by Hank Mardukous View Post

No problems man! I'm more than happy to spread the good word to fellow members here. I was kind of worried when I didn't see you posting for a bit. I thought that either something happened to you, or that you got a defective set of speakers or that you paired them up with a garbage receiver and hated the sound. I'm glad it was none of the above
Enjoy them dude, but remember that they are not "club loud" speakers. They will not sound loud ever, until they are pushed beyond the amp or their abilities, but once bad things happen, it will become very expensive, very quickly.To put it in perspective, the RC-70's will sound loud waaaay before your Veritas will, because of the 70's limits.
Also, the more space that you can give these 1.8's the better, play around and fall in love. Congrats on the last and best set of speakers you should ever need

I'm pretty sure that is the truth: the last and best set of speakers I will ever need. My GF is so happy my hunting is over, or at least lessened

I've got 4' to the back wall, almost 4' to the side walls, and they are 7.5' apart. The room they are in is at least 3000cf, with an adjoining dining room half as much as that.

I think I get what you mean about not sounding loud: they sure can put out alot of SPL, but it's so clear they still do not sound loud?

Now if I could just find these puppies in walnut
post #33400 of 47769
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Originally Posted by jasonmichaelh View Post

I'm pretty sure that is the truth: the last and best set of speakers I will ever need. My GF is so happy my hunting is over, or at least lessened

I've got 4' to the back wall, almost 4' to the side walls, and they are 7.5' apart. The room they are in is at least 3000cf, with an adjoining dining room half as much as that.

I think I get what you mean about not sounding loud: they sure can put out alot of SPL, but it's so clear they still do not sound loud?

Now if I could just find these puppies in walnut

Awesome! Sounds like they are being put to great use in your home. You nailed it exactly for what I meant about loud. Now you can totally appreciate Energy and what they were truly capable of. I'm very happy for you man.

If you can, try a quality record player some day if you get the chance. Chills is all I will say. That's it, I'm going to go turn my Veritas two channel system on and have a beverage.
By the way, if you do find a set in walnut and are selling yours, I could help you out.
post #33401 of 47769
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Originally Posted by darcman View Post

Ya but if I walked into a Future Shop and they were blowing out the 70s at $1200 for the pair and the 6.3s were $1250 each, without a doubt Id be leaving with 70s. On boxing day last year the 70s were only $1000, the trouble was they didnt sell any of the other RCs anymore. There was a guy buying some polks at the time, I tried to tell him to get the 70s, he bought the cheaper polks.
Hey thanks for not taking it the wrong way about the 6.3s. Im sure you love yours and if I didnt have anything for the right price Id be a proud owner.

By the way werent you looking for one of these, I know they ship to Canada
Shipping wouldnt be that much and still alot cheaper than FS

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Verit...item5646f68cd8

I contacted the seller of that V5.2 and he quoted $85 shipping to BC. Also that would include the HST. So $484 shipped to Canada seems like a good deal to me, the cheapest I have seen in Canada was $699 + tax at fs. Maybe I should buy the pair and use my v5.1 for surrounds as my current v-minis are black and don't match the rest of my rosenut speakers. That would give me three v5.2 up front. Damn reading these threads gets expensive!
post #33402 of 47769
Hi All,

First time poster on this thread but just wanted to say thank you for all the insightful posts on the Energy Veritas and the info on Vanns sale. I would have never seen the deal had it not been for this thread! Just as an FYI, I was able to snag the following prices by talking to the sales rep and price matching with Hi Def Lifestyle:

V6.3 - $675 Each
V5.2 - $315 Each
VS - $250 Each

That equates to a hair over 2k, which is what I paid 8 years ago for my Klipsch RF35 system. Pics and impressions to come for those that are interested!
post #33403 of 47769
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Originally Posted by Derek71 View Post

I contacted the seller of that V5.2 and he quoted $85 shipping to BC. Also that would include the HST. So $484 shipped to Canada seems like a good deal to me, the cheapest I have seen in Canada was $699 + tax at fs. Maybe I should buy the pair and use my v5.1 for surrounds as my current v-minis are black and don't match the rest of my rosenut speakers. That would give me three v5.2 up front. Damn reading these threads gets expensive!

That sounds like FedEx or UPS shipping which is something you want to avoid. Ask the seller if he will ship USPS that way you will avoid brokerage fees, you will still have to pay tax though.
post #33404 of 47769
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Originally Posted by kaseaman View Post

Hi All,

First time poster on this thread but just wanted to say thank you for all the insightful posts on the Energy Veritas and the info on Vanns sale. I would have never seen the deal had it not been for this thread! Just as an FYI, I was able to snag the following prices by talking to the sales rep and price matching with Hi Def Lifestyle:

V6.3 - $675 Each
V5.2 - $315 Each
VS - $250 Each

That equates to a hair over 2k, which is what I paid 8 years ago for my Klipsch RF35 system. Pics and impressions to come for those that are interested!

I would say that is some very good prices, they are alot more even when on sale in Canada. So did you get the strawberry or gloss chocolate....just kidding. Did you opt for the gloss black or Rosewood? Im sure you are going to be very very happy.
post #33405 of 47769
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Originally Posted by darcman View Post

I would say that is some very good prices, they are alot more even when on sale in Canada. So did you get the strawberry or gloss chocolate....just kidding. Did you opt for the gloss black or Rosewood? Im sure you are going to be very very happy.

I ended up getting the gloss black. I was more of a fan of the rosewood (one of the local dealerships by me has those on display) but my wife preferred the gloss black... Gotta keep the wife happy
post #33406 of 47769
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Originally Posted by kaseaman View Post

I ended up getting the gloss black. I was more of a fan of the rosewood (one of the local dealerships by me has those on display) but my wife preferred the gloss black... Gotta keep the wife happy

Congrats man! Pics and impressions would be great! It wil be very interesting to hear your thoughts on the Veritas, especially since you are very familiar with your Klipsch setup sound. Enjoy your new beautiful speakers!
post #33407 of 47769
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Originally Posted by Macstatic View Post

I know, it's strange. My guess is he knows my situation so all he had to do was answer "They're still available" instead of getting ready to respond to sell his speakers.

Still, no reply. I'm starting to wonder if he even wants to get rid of them? i'll hit the ad again and see if I finally get a reply.
post #33408 of 47769
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Originally Posted by darcman View Post

That sounds like FedEx or UPS shipping which is something you want to avoid. Ask the seller if he will ship USPS that way you will avoid brokerage fees, you will still have to pay tax though.

I have had some good luck with importing with fedex. A couple years ago I bought a pair of jbl studio L890 speakers which were over 70 pounds each and paid $85 for shipping and did not get charged anything else when they arrived. But other times its been more for the brokeage and custom fees than the item. I do agree with you that usps is normally the cheapest though. The joys of importing things into Canada.
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I have to say I am really happy to hear all the positive reviews of the new Veritas especially from those who can compare them directly to the RCs. We gave them a lot of flak in this thread as "klipsch-i-fied" versions of the RCs with nicer finish and a huge markup... And while msrp is definitely excessive it's great to know they don't do a disservice to the Energy name in terms of sound quality, build quality and aesthetics.
post #33410 of 47769
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

I have to say I am really happy to hear all the positive reviews of the new Veritas especially from those who can compare them directly to the RCs. We gave them a lot of flak in this thread as "klipsch-i-fied" versions of the RCs with nicer finish and a huge markup... And while msrp is definitely excessive it's great to know they don't do a disservice to the Energy name in terms of sound quality, build quality and aesthetics.

Amen! I was thinking the same thing. Maybe when they go down in price eventually I'll snag a pair of V6.3s for my music 2.1 setup.
post #33411 of 47769
I have a question about the necessity of upgrading my surrounds. I recently did an upgrade on a couple pieces of my stereo and would like to know if ill notice any difference with the change.
So I went from ,
Onkyo 707
Emotiva ups-5 (probably overkill but got on sale)
Energy c-300 fronts
Energy c-c100 center
And c-100 surrounds.
New system so far,
Rc-30 fronts
Rc-lcr center.
Same surrounds.
Same receiver and amp.
Anyone feel its worth changing surrounds to rc-10's? Anyone with experience that can vouch for the difference? I don't mind the c-100 being used, just not sure if I'm missing out. So far I'm very happy with the upgrade.
post #33412 of 47769
I have always thought and stated that the 6.3 Veritas are definitely worthy of the Energy name, but they are not worthy of the Veritas name in my opinion.
post #33413 of 47769
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Originally Posted by jelias1979 View Post

I have a question about the necessity of upgrading my surrounds.

Do you use this system more for movies or do you do a lot of surround sound music listening?
post #33414 of 47769
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Originally Posted by Hank Mardukous View Post

Do you use this system more for movies or do you do a lot of surround sound music listening?

I would say 60% movies and 40% 2 channel music.
post #33415 of 47769
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Originally Posted by jelias1979 View Post

I would say 60% movies and 40% 2 channel music.

I haven't had experience with either of the surrounds that you have, but since your doing two channel music listening and watching movies I wouldn't think it to be very necessary. At normal pricing I wouldn't think about switching if it was me.
What sub do you have? I can't find anything on the one you listed.
post #33416 of 47769
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Originally Posted by Hank Mardukous View Post

I haven't had experience with either of the surrounds that you have, but since your doing two channel music listening and watching movies I wouldn't think it to be very necessary. At normal pricing I wouldn't think about switching if it was me.
What sub do you have? I can't find anything on the one you listed.

Right now I'm using a mfw-15 as my sub.
post #33417 of 47769
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Originally Posted by jelias1979 View Post

Right now I'm using a mfw-15 as my sub.

I was trying to find Emotiva ups-5.
Hopefully the amp doesn't go on you on the MFW-15
post #33418 of 47769
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Originally Posted by Hank Mardukous View Post

I was trying to find Emotiva ups-5.
Hopefully the amp doesn't go on you on the MFW-15

You and me both!
post #33419 of 47769
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Originally Posted by jelias1979 View Post

You and me both!

The RC's are a much nicer speaker over the C's that you have. Enjoy your setup and don't worry about the surrounds, unless you find that you don't like something about the sound.
post #33420 of 47769
Get the RC-10s.... It is just going to gnaw at you if you don't! The current Vann's deal for $299 is excellent and the RC-10s are much, much better than the C-100's. Besides, if your room is capable, hook them up as wides or heights if you want. Or just sell the C-100s and recoup a nice portion of your upgrade.....
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