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post #37651 of 47738
3/3/12 at 7:17am
@mphfrom77

Devasting doesn't even begin to explain the force of this one system. I'm glad you're OK, and my thoughts and prayers go to those who have been affected in so many ways.
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post #37652 of 47738
3/3/12 at 7:24am
mphfrom77 - Glad you and your family are ok. My thoughts and prayers go out to those affected by the terrible tornados.
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post #37653 of 47738
3/3/12 at 9:09am
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Originally Posted by tmbz View Post

Newegg has Energy ESW-C10 $179.99 with code!

EMCYTZT1250

Which is better...Energy ESW-C10 or S10.3?

Well....think I got the answer from older post....

I was told S10.3 is way better and higher sub than C10. I was looking at to buy one.

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I haven't checked it myself to see if it works. But I think the code ENE304 at newegg works with the Energy S10.3 subwoofer bringing it down to $199.99 plus free shipping. Just passing it along. Like I said, though, I didn't check it to see if it works. "Supposed" to work for today and tomorrow.

It works, just ordered S10.3 for $199.
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post #37654 of 47738
3/3/12 at 9:55am
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Sure. If anyone around 02148 is interested in a pair of RC-50s, please send me a PM.

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post #37655 of 47738
3/3/12 at 10:29am
I'm thinking about buying the Energy RC Micro 5CH Home Theater with an S10.3 on Newegg now that they are on sale. Is this a good setup and if so, what receiver should I get? (I'm not very knowledgeable in audio.)

Edit: Someone mentioned the S10.3 is not a good choice for those speakers, as they are rated for 150KHz and the drop off for S10.3 is 110KHz. Would the full Energy RC Micro 5.1CH Home Theater (includes a 180KHz rated subwoofer) be a better choice then? Any users here that have or had it and have thoughts to share? Still unsure on an AVR, maybe a Pioneer VSX-821-K?

Thanks!
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post #37656 of 47738
3/3/12 at 11:13am
Upgrade seems in my future. Never finished a 2.1 setup with the RC Mini and the Energy RC Mini Center channel. Just running a Mirage sub with the Minis for 2.1 now.

Think I will keep the sub, but thinking of selling the used Minis and the CC (new in box) to offset either a 3x RC LCR or 2 RC10 / 1 LCR combo. Any thoughts on an appropriate price for the speakers? Any suggestions (this is vague with clarifying what they are used for...so generalities) as to the new combo?
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post #37657 of 47738
3/3/12 at 2:19pm
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Originally Posted by ProgenitorX View Post

I'm thinking about buying the Energy RC Micro 5CH Home Theater with an S10.3 on Newegg now that they are on sale. Is this a good setup and if so, what receiver should I get? (I'm not very knowledgeable in audio.)

Edit: Someone mentioned the S10.3 is not a good choice for those speakers, as they are rated for 150KHz and the drop off for S10.3 is 110KHz. Would the full Energy RC Micro 5.1CH Home Theater (includes a 180KHz rated subwoofer) be a better choice then? Any users here that have or had it and have thoughts to share? Still unsure on an AVR, maybe a Pioneer VSX-821-K?

Thanks!

The Micros sound great considering their size, but the center channel is lacking IMO. I just replaced mine with a V-Mini-Center and its a night and day difference. I do plan to replace the front left and right with V-Minis (as size is important) for some more "depth" to the sound and use the Micros as side and rear surrounds.
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post #37658 of 47738
3/3/12 at 5:43pm
has anyone taken graphs of the s10.3 in their room? I find it odd it rolls off at 110...
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post #37659 of 47738
3/3/12 at 5:45pm
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Originally Posted by NewHT View Post


It works, just ordered S10.3 for $199.

congrats. I doubt you will do better for that price. I hope you enjoy it! It will crush any futureshop 'polk' sub at that price...even on sale...
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post #37660 of 47738
3/3/12 at 6:04pm
I went and saw the production "Wicked" last night. Excellent play! Funny enough the speakers for Gammage (the place I saw it) were Bose. Sounded really well, not like the crap they sell for houses.

Anyways, I got the soundtrack and have been listening to it at home on my speakers. Great sounding voices and quite a good story too!
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post #37661 of 47738
3/3/12 at 6:48pm
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Originally Posted by caper_1 View Post

has anyone taken graphs of the s10.3 in their room? I find it odd it rolls off at 110...

I think people are just going off the -3dB spec (120Hz) or the upper limit of the LPF knob (110Hz). But it does roll off pretty steeply above 100Hz.

Here's a graph and measurements of the S10.3: http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/art...ystem?page=0,2

Here's a graph of the Mirage Omni S10 (same sub): http://www.hometheater.com/content/m...-labs-measures

Home Theater Mag measured the -3dB upper point at 106Hz.
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post #37662 of 47738
3/3/12 at 10:35pm
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Originally Posted by mphfrom77 View Post

Guys I posted this in my one my other favorite thread, felt like posting it here as well:

So my little hometown of Crittenden, Ky got hit pretty hard yesterday by a tornado (maybe two actually) and very strong winds. I and my family members in northern Kentucky were very fortunate in that for us it was only a fairly chaotic and humbling experience with no harm coming to us.

Our tristate area of Indiana, Kentucky and Ohio got hit pretty hard. Somewhat fortunately it was mainly in smaller towns.

In seeing some national news this morning I see that this system has devasted many other states in the south, south east and is still going. Apparently the lack of cold air and winter conditions (which I can vouch for) combined with hot air coming up from the south (like Florida) is what has caused all of this.

The tornados here were followed by tennis ball to softball size hail (which I did not see as well either).

Trees on my street, and in the surrounding areas were snapped like twigs, or completely toppled over, uprooted. Houses ripped apart or demolished within just a few minutes of mine and across the tristate.

Stories of the debris (like receipts) landing in peoples yards that originated from 150 to 300 miles away.

Supposedly a nice guy that I work with but do not know, who lives about 5 to 6 miles from me had his house completely destroyed while he was in it. To survive he laid over top of his wife and daughter as he was getting hit in the back with, basically his home.

Like I said, I feel very fortunate. My thoughts go out to those not so furtunate.

Happy to hear you and your family made out ok. It truly sucks when things like this happen.
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post #37663 of 47738
3/4/12 at 4:21am
I've received my RC-70s and installed them in my guest room. Side note: the boxes were tortured in shipping, and the plinth on one of the speakers got all jacked up--bent and shattered at its front right corner. Calling Vann's on Monday to see if they will do the right thing and send me a free replacement plinth.

That ugliness aside, the speakers do exactly what I'd hoped: here finally is the cleared up midrange I was missing from all my 2-way RCs. Also, interestingly, the 2.1 installation highlights some strengths and weaknesses: I kinda can't believe how good Audyssey is at removing shrillness from the top end of my small, unfurnished, very bright guest room. You wouldn't believe how harsh the test tones sound in here. But the music just sounds like music.

At least, it sounds like music when I'm playing off a flash drive or iPod stuck directly into the receiver. When my PC's onboard sound is involved, Christ on the cross it's bad in ways I never realized before. Most prominently it lacks bass depth. I can heat up the sub channel to make up some of the difference but it still cheats my towers out of performing up to their potential. All this time I'd been blaming weak bass response on my poor little RC-10/Mini CC/Prestige S8 combination. Nope, it was onboard sound. It seems normal after awhile, I guess.

Edit: you know, it's not just the missing bass... recordings sound flatter. I'm one of those people who hate it when The Audiophiles grab some word describing a non-auditory sensory experience and use it to describe the way something sounds, but here I am doing it. Sorry. How about this: in a certain recording that I'm listening to right now, there's a small chorus of singers. None of the voices reaches the bass region, so the bass depression isn't to blame, but when I play the track through the receiver only, it sounds like a chorus. When I play it from my PC to my receiver, the chorus sounds like it has fewer people in it. More like a generic tone than a bunch of voices. That's what I meant by "flatter."

Does anyone use an Asus Xonar ST?
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post #37664 of 47738
3/4/12 at 6:52am
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Originally Posted by NewHT View Post

I was told S10.3 is way better and higher sub than C10. I was looking at to buy one.



It works, just ordered S10.3 for $199.

how will the energy 10.3 mix/match with the rc minis?


Will there be a missed area in the 100 - 120 htz?

I saw a review where it was blended with the energy 8.3 as a better match.

thanks
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post #37665 of 47738
3/4/12 at 7:11am
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Originally Posted by SaviorMachine View Post

I've received my RC-70s and installed them in my guest room. Side note: the boxes were tortured in shipping, and the plinth on one of the speakers got all jacked up--bent and shattered at its front right corner. Calling Vann's on Monday to see if they will do the right thing and send me a free replacement plinth.

That's the one issue I have had with Vanns....WHENEVER I get a speaker from them it ALWAYS has a forklift hole in the box...... so far so good though and I have had no damage to the speakers. I wish there was a way they could prevent this.......most of the time forklift damage happens at their warehouse....not the shipping company. Plus all I have ordered are bookshelf speakers...which proves to me it was at the warehouse and not the shipping place....
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post #37666 of 47738
3/4/12 at 7:38am
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PM Sent...

NewToHT, please check your Inbox.
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post #37667 of 47738
3/4/12 at 7:42am
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Originally Posted by NewToHT View Post

That's the one issue I have had with Vanns....WHENEVER I get a speaker from them it ALWAYS has a forklift hole in the box...... so far so good though and I have had no damage to the speakers. I wish there was a way they could prevent this.......most of the time forklift damage happens at their warehouse....not the shipping company. Plus all I have ordered are bookshelf speakers...which proves to me it was at the warehouse and not the shipping place....

My RC-70s arrive Tuesday - I hope they make it here without damage. I e-mailed them requesting the speakers be double boxed. I received a couple of responses from them.

The first response:
"Thanks for contacting Vanns.com. Unfortunately there is no way to request
double boxing since our warehouse is off site and there is no direct
communication to the warehouse workers. Typically they do double box large
speakers but I'm not entirely sure if these will be. What I can tell you is
this, if you have any damage or end up with a defective speaker we will take
care of you. Please let us know if you need anything else. Take care!"

The second response:
"I put a request in to the distribution warehouse to overbox your speakers. I believe I caught it in time."

I hope they are double boxed!
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post #37668 of 47738
3/4/12 at 7:54am
Good luck, bpjadhav
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post #37669 of 47738
3/4/12 at 8:27am
hmm. Ive never had a damaged box from Vanns and I got my sub and center from there. Both boxes were perfect.
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post #37670 of 47738
3/4/12 at 8:32am
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Originally Posted by wmuller View Post

how will the energy 10.3 mix/match with the rc minis?


Will there be a missed area in the 100 - 120 htz?

The RC-Minis have a -3db rated spec of 80hz. Either 80, 90, or 100hz should work as a crossover point with the S10.3.
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post #37671 of 47738
3/4/12 at 8:41am
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Originally Posted by wmuller View Post


how will the energy 10.3 mix/match with the rc minis?

Will there be a missed area in the 100 - 120 htz?

I saw a review where it was blended with the energy 8.3 as a better match.

thanks

Definitely get the s10.3! RC Mini can handle the 100hz - 120hz range. Great price at $199 too.
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post #37672 of 47738
3/4/12 at 10:33am
I've also received 11 speakers from Vanns and none of them were damaged. Minis to towers and everything in between. They also allowed me to return a speaker outside of my return window at no cost and without any restocking fee. Every time I've dealt with them they were helpful, not pushy and exceeded my expectations. I'm sure some people have received damaged speakers but that is not the norm and when it does happen they always seem to make things right.
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post #37673 of 47738
3/4/12 at 11:16am
Hey Everyone,

I am looking to purchase a 7.1 surround and was going to go with the Polk RTi A7 for stands and supporting surrounds, but was wondering how everyone felt about the CF-50 and its supporting surrounds instead? I have read the CF series is harsh sounding and wondering if they are worth looking into.

The reason I am looking at the CF series instead of RC is because I can get them for 160/each vs the RC series.

Any first hand experience on the CF series would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks!
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post #37674 of 47738
3/4/12 at 11:20am
I've heard the CF series plenty of times. They're brighter sounding than the RC series but you may like that.

Do you have a Best Buy/Magnolia nearby? They carry the CF-50 so you could take some of your music and listen to them there.

I think the RTiA7 is a better speaker though.
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post #37675 of 47738
3/4/12 at 11:55am
Bamf3000

The polks are probably the more advanced speaker compared to the CF50. However if you can get a deal on the CF70s they are a much better speaker than the 50. Between the CF 70 and Ria7 it comes down to preference. I had the Polk RTi10 which is very simailar to the Rtia7 but have only heard CF series in store and read alot about them. I did not like the Polk but would consider them good speakers but not to my taste. The two speakers will sound quite different with the polks using a silk dome tweeter and the Energy metal tweeter. The Polk tweeter sounds smooth but lacks detail, the CF has lots of detail but is brighter.

Now why I did not like the polks. I found them to be muddy and lacked detail. The midrange was especially bad for me. It was this lack of detail that got me into Energy, first the RC series and now the Veritas. On a techinical side I don't like the way the cross over is designed on the polks especially for home theater. The cross over for the 2 large woofer is at 125hz leaving to much for the mid woofer to do before crossing over to the tweater. You would think they would produce great bass but most reviews feel it takes a very good amp to get the most out of them. In home theater where you would cross over these to your sub at 60 to 80 hz you are going to only be using the two large woofer for the frequency between that and 125hz nullifying one of the strengths of these speakers. Having said that I would still consider it CF70 > Rita7 > CF50.
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post #37676 of 47738
3/4/12 at 12:04pm
Thanks for the responses, I'll check my area for a Magnolia store and hope I can listen to all of these!

Calgary, thanks for your input on the speakers. I might be able to jump up to the CF70, I just want something that would be good for constant listening that won't give me ear fatigue or be too harsh/bright like the Klipsch
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post #37677 of 47738
3/4/12 at 12:32pm
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Originally Posted by bamf3000 View Post

I might be able to jump up to the CF70, I just want something that would be good for constant listening that won't give me ear fatigue or be too harsh/bright like the Klipsch

The current C series that I have listened to in store gave me ear fatigue and a headache within minutes. I don't mean to scare you off, but there is no way that I could listen to those C speakers for any real length of time. They are too harsh for me.
I have Klipsch computer speakers and I can listen to them with no problems. I prefer other speakers over the Klipsch, but my computer isn't mainly used for the tunes.
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post #37678 of 47738
3/4/12 at 12:47pm
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Originally Posted by SaviorMachine View Post

I've received my RC-70s and installed them in my guest room. Side note: the boxes were tortured in shipping, and the plinth on one of the speakers got all jacked up--bent and shattered at its front right corner. Calling Vann's on Monday to see if they will do the right thing and send me a free replacement plinth.

That ugliness aside, the speakers do exactly what I'd hoped: here finally is the cleared up midrange I was missing from all my 2-way RCs. Also, interestingly, the 2.1 installation highlights some strengths and weaknesses: I kinda can't believe how good Audyssey is at removing shrillness from the top end of my small, unfurnished, very bright guest room. You wouldn't believe how harsh the test tones sound in here. But the music just sounds like music.

At least, it sounds like music when I'm playing off a flash drive or iPod stuck directly into the receiver. When my PC's onboard sound is involved, Christ on the cross it's bad in ways I never realized before. Most prominently it lacks bass depth. I can heat up the sub channel to make up some of the difference but it still cheats my towers out of performing up to their potential. All this time I'd been blaming weak bass response on my poor little RC-10/Mini CC/Prestige S8 combination. Nope, it was onboard sound. It seems normal after awhile, I guess.

Edit: you know, it's not just the missing bass... recordings sound flatter. I'm one of those people who hate it when The Audiophiles grab some word describing a non-auditory sensory experience and use it to describe the way something sounds, but here I am doing it. Sorry. How about this: in a certain recording that I'm listening to right now, there's a small chorus of singers. None of the voices reaches the bass region, so the bass depression isn't to blame, but when I play the track through the receiver only, it sounds like a chorus. When I play it from my PC to my receiver, the chorus sounds like it has fewer people in it. More like a generic tone than a bunch of voices. That's what I meant by "flatter."

Does anyone use an Asus Xonar ST?

Congrats on the RC-70s!!
Too bad that you got a damaged one, but I'm sure they'll take care of you.

Sometimes you have to use words to describe what you are hearing, there is no other choice

It sounds like you are getting a clearer sounstage with just the receiver.
When there isn't seperation or detail from a speaker, I tend to call it cardboard because that is the best way for me to put it. It's amazing how things can make such a big difference. A little tweak here and there can really change how music can sound. Most people don't know any better and are content to miss out on great sound.
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post #37679 of 47738
3/4/12 at 12:53pm
I sold my RC-50s in cherry and bought two more RC-70s. It was almost the same price, so I made out very well on the sale, especially considering what I paid for the 50s two or three years ago!!!

Do not worry about the quality of the newer produced RCs compared to the older ones. They are very well built and the weight is back up to where they should be.
The Hong Kong produced speakers were lighter just over a year ago, but that is not the case with the ones I just got.
Go get 'em while the gettings good!!

Also, I am a believer in speaker break in time.
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post #37680 of 47738
3/4/12 at 1:03pm
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Definitely get the s10.3! RC Mini can handle the 100hz - 120hz range. Great price at $199 too.

bought the energy 10.3 to go with the rc-minis.

My other options were the veledyne impact 10, or the audio outlaw m8


worst case i have to craigslist woofer if waf is too low.

cant wait to hear it.


thanks to all..
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