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post #37891 of 51595
Picked up a pair of Energy 2.1e's locally for $40. Testing them out in my office right now. They look like the Energy C-2 speakers.

These older speakers are so much better than the current CB-10, CB-20 speakers and the previous C-100s and C-200s.

I guess when Energy created the RC line they stepped up from the older Connoissuer speakers in fit and finish but the new C series speakers they introduced at the same time were a downgrade from the 2.1e, older even (C-2) and odd numbered (C-3, C-1) C-series speakers.

The more recent models use much smaller cabinets too.

I'm pretty happy, I got a great deal.
post #37892 of 51595
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Originally Posted by deano86 View Post


You are really going to have to explain exactly what you mean by "sounding quite a bit better"..... and provide a bit more details... Typically plugging a good amp into a power strip can cause problems, not solve them. The only way I can think of that would make an amp "sound" better is if somehow you fixed some sort of ground loop problem and eliminated a buzzing or 60Hz hum from your speakers. Otherwise, if you are saying the dynamics or sound stage seems better now, I would say you are crazy! Or inadvertantly, you are using a different sound mode or something else changed in this process....

So it's a bad idea to plug my receiver into a surge surpressor with other equipment?
post #37893 of 51595
All my receivers are plugged in a surge suppressor along with the rest of the audio equipment.

I wouldn't expect it to sound better because of the surge suppressor, that's not what they're for.
post #37894 of 51595
Goonstopher listed his cherry rc-lcr on eBay for anyone looking for that color.
post #37895 of 51595
I didn't know the Energy S10.3 sub was on sale for $200 shipped again at Newegg!! Just snagged it yesterday. I think tomorrow is the last day if anyone is interested. I have been waiting 6 months for this price. Yaay!!!
post #37896 of 51595
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Picked up a pair of Energy 2.1e's locally for $40. Testing them out in my office right now. They look like the Energy C-2 speakers.

These older speakers are so much better than the current CB-10, CB-20 speakers and the previous C-100s and C-200s.

I guess when Energy created the RC line they stepped up from the older Connoissuer speakers in fit and finish but the new C series speakers they introduced at the same time were a downgrade from the 2.1e, older even (C-2) and odd numbered (C-3, C-1) C-series speakers.

The more recent models use much smaller cabinets too.

I'm pretty happy, I got a great deal.

That does sound like a great deal. It's a shame that the current C-series lineup does not have the same quality as its predecessors.
post #37897 of 51595
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Originally Posted by deepstang View Post

I didn't know the Energy S10.3 sub was on sale for $200 shipped again at Newegg!! Just snagged it yesterday. I think tomorrow is the last day if anyone is interested. I have been waiting 6 months for this price. Yaay!!!

Yeah, it's been on sale for that price a few times this year. Glad the wait is over for you.

I have one and like it very much.
post #37898 of 51595
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Originally Posted by deepstang View Post

I didn't know the Energy S10.3 sub was on sale for $200 shipped again at Newegg!! Just snagged it yesterday. I think tomorrow is the last day if anyone is interested. I have been waiting 6 months for this price. Yaay!!!

I got mine for $250 and feel it is a very good deal.
post #37899 of 51595
I was at Sears looking at TVs today and I noticed they have started carrying Energy speakers in store. It's funny though because they're just the rebranded JAMO speakers and a sound bar. They wanted $330 for each of those little towers. Considering you could get a RC-70 for only 70 bucks more, that price is criminal. I feel sorry for the shoppers that aren't educated in the audio world.

But they did have the Take system there though, which is a great/much better alternative to the ridiculousness that is the BOSE acoustimass.
post #37900 of 51595
Hey Mac, thanks for the info , guess I'll leave all the ports unplugged for now.
I put the center speaker right on the edge of the stand like you said...
So far these speakers fill our room , 15x19x8, pretty good.
joe


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Originally Posted by Macstatic View Post

First, make sure if you do choose to plug the ports, plug both of the speakers (for example, if you plug the Front Left, make sure the plug the Front Right also.

Second, if the back of the stand is open, it's going to be pure preference. For me, I like the front of the speaker to be flush with the front of the stand, so the sound can be pushed out without immediately bouncing off of any surface. Same goes for the back.

The best thing for you to do would be to try it all out and see which sounds best to you. Try ports plugged, ports unplugged, etc. Use different combinations and then stick with whichever one sounds the best to you.
post #37901 of 51595
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Originally Posted by y2kbug77 View Post


But they did have the Take system there though, which is a great/much better alternative to the ridiculousness that is the BOSE acoustimass.

I saw a BOSE in a box, at a Navy exchange in Feb for over $3,000 US...I almost choked on my cappuccino.
post #37902 of 51595
I think I'll be putting up my RC-10's and LCR in the next week or two. Cherry color, probably less than 50 hours played on them. Would asking $550.00 locally be too much? I haven't seen cherry ones for sale too often, so can't get a good price watch on them :\\
post #37903 of 51595
If anyone's interested in Canada, this week it's buy one, get one free on the CF-30 and CF-50 at FutureShop.
post #37904 of 51595
So I've had the RC-70's playing for a week now (maybe 20 hours of use so far). I switched them from "small" to "large". This could be subjective, or it could be because my first impression of the speaker was with the receiver setting on small, but the speakers seem to have opened up a bit and have very full sound. I am very happy with my purchase, especially at the price that I was able to get them for.

I find the speakers to be pretty neutral, which is exactly what I want, and transition very smoothly with my velodyne sub (which I have muted for the past few days as I've been listening to the front channels alone).

I have left the ports open, but will test them out plugged to see what I prefer. I also still need to run Audessey. Is there typically a noticable change before and after running it?

I originally had my eyes on a set of Paradigm Studio 60's, and I remain a Paradigm fan, but I am very happy with the RC-70's in terms of cost vs. performance.

I'd like to ideally get some more music with strings to play on these.
post #37905 of 51595
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

If anyone's interested in Canada, this week it's buy one, get one free on the CF-30 and CF-50 at FutureShop.

... and the RC-70s seem to have disappeared from FutureShop's listing.
post #37906 of 51595
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

... and the RC-70s seem to have disappeared from FutureShop's listing.

I think that's because Vanns owns the entire line. Energy makes them just for Vanns......that's why you never see any other place sell them....at least that's what the Assistant manager told me....
post #37907 of 51595
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

If you want to go FULL ON whole hog get two more RC-6C and install them as "height" speakers up front to go to 7.1.

Thanks batpig...took your advice and went "full on whole hog" I installed the two RC-6C surrounds over the weekend...and they were so good I just ordered 2 more RC-6c's for heights. So I will be 7.2 now. Thanks!
post #37908 of 51595
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Originally Posted by NewToHT View Post

I think that's because Vanns owns the entire line. Energy makes them just for Vanns......that's why you never see any other place sell them....at least that's what the Assistant manager told me....

You're right that Vann's has a contract with Energy to continue producing the RC line (and at that, only the RC-10, RC-LCR and RC-70 in black ash).

In Canada, there's supposed to be only one authorized Energy distributor, Gentec International. If you ask them (I did) or any of the retail stores that do business with them, they simply tell you that the RC line is discontinued. Indeed any RC speakers in stock is unsold stock from a few years ago.

FutureShop however doesn't seem to abide by these rules. Not sure what are the legal deals between FS, Energy, Gentec, etc. FutureShop is owned by BestBuy, which has US headquarters, so maybe they can import speakers from the US because of that. Anyway, occasionally, FS sells huge stocks of RC speakers. It seems that for the past 3 years at christmas, FS gets approx. 500 new RC-70s, which they sell entirely during the following weeks, at the same price as Vann's. Now the RC-70s disappeared completely from FS's web site -- they're probably simply all sold. In all likelihood we'll have to wait until next Christmas to see RC-70s up here.
post #37909 of 51595
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Originally Posted by rpkelly View Post

I think I'll be putting up my RC-10's and LCR in the next week or two. Cherry color, probably less than 50 hours played on them. Would asking $550.00 locally be too much? I haven't seen cherry ones for sale too often, so can't get a good price watch on them :\\

Well I can tell you that I haven't drawn any interest yet on Rosenut RC-10's/LCR priced at $575, despite how hard it is to fine them.

Resale has taken a hit because of the overabundance of black ash RC's available, and the current pricing at Vann's. There was a time when I could've sold the RC-LCR by itself for $400ish no problem.

The last pair of cherry RC-10's sold on ebay was for $280 shipped... and a rosenut pair went for about $270 shipped. Of course, ebay is one of the worst places to sell audio, as most people are looking to get stuff cheap...
post #37910 of 51595
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Originally Posted by gtp3 View Post

I'd like to ideally get some more music with strings to play on these.

Not sure if you mean that in a classical sense or not. But if you want some nice instrumentals with wailing guitars I highly recommend this album.
http://www.amazon.com/Guitars-That-A...1576932&sr=8-1

If you're not a fan of heavier music then just disregard my suggestion. haha.
post #37911 of 51595
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Originally Posted by alphaiii View Post

Well I can tell you that I haven't drawn any interest yet on Rosenut RC-10's/LCR priced at $575, despite how hard it is to fine them.

Resale has taken a hit because of the overabundance of black ash RC's available, and the current pricing at Vann's. There was a time when I could've sold the RC-LCR by itself for $400ish no problem.

The last pair of cherry RC-10's sold on ebay was for $280 shipped... and a rosenut pair went for about $270 shipped. Of course, ebay is one of the worst places to sell audio, as most people are looking to get stuff cheap...

Dang, thanks for the help. I guess all I can do is put them up and hope. Are you trying to sell yours locally or shipped? I'm hoping not to have to ship them.
post #37912 of 51595
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Originally Posted by y2kbug77 View Post

Not sure if you mean that in a classical sense or not. But if you want some nice instrumentals with wailing guitars I highly recommend this album.
http://www.amazon.com/Guitars-That-A...1576932&sr=8-1

If you're not a fan of heavier music then just disregard my suggestion. haha.

Owww...my ears........

Personally, I love the sound of Dave Matthews on quality speakers. My number one speaker testing song is Rapunzel from his album Before these Crowded Streets. Its a very busy song with a large range of instrumentals, so the detail and separation is tested pretty well. The bass digs deep in a couple sections as well.
post #37913 of 51595
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Originally Posted by rpkelly View Post

Dang, thanks for the help. I guess all I can do is put them up and hope. Are you trying to sell yours locally or shipped? I'm hoping not to have to ship them.

Yeah, definitely try. There might be someone who is hunting for cherry.

I'll sell local or ship... but I'm sure shipping will be a little expensive.
post #37914 of 51595
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Originally Posted by y2kbug77 View Post

Not sure if you mean that in a classical sense or not. But if you want some nice instrumentals with wailing guitars I highly recommend this album.
http://www.amazon.com/Guitars-That-A...1576932&sr=8-1

If you're not a fan of heavier music then just disregard my suggestion. haha.

Hey thanks for the recommendation. I'll definitely give this a shot. I've started to get my feet wet into classical music, but I'm really at the infancy stage if anything.

I need to build a better collection with guitars.
post #37915 of 51595
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Originally Posted by rpkelly View Post

I think I'll be putting up my RC-10's and LCR in the next week or two. Cherry color, probably less than 50 hours played on them. Would asking $550.00 locally be too much? I haven't seen cherry ones for sale too often, so can't get a good price watch on them :\\

Yeah, there was a time not too long ago where you could have gotten $600 easy but the used market is terrible now. I think $550 is a very fair price but realistically you should be happy with any offer over $500.
post #37916 of 51595
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Originally Posted by gibsonpa View Post


Thanks batpig...took your advice and went "full on whole hog" I installed the two RC-6C surrounds over the weekend...and they were so good I just ordered 2 more RC-6c's for heights. So I will be 7.2 now. Thanks!

Awesome!! . Please tell us more!

- have you installed the new 6W speakers up front? Or just the 6C's?

- was the install easy?

- how big of an improvement versus the takes?
post #37917 of 51595
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Awesome!! . Please tell us more!

- have you installed the new 6W speakers up front? Or just the 6C's?

- was the install easy?

- how big of an improvement versus the takes?

The surround 6C's came on Friday, so I installed over the weekend. Install was very easy and they look great.

The 6W's and LCR were delivered about an hour ago. I plan to install them tonight after work. I am planning to disable Audyssey temporarily while I break them in so full range goes up front (ie no bass mgmt). Guess I will just loop a CD or BR menu for a few days at moderate volume. From reading, seems like this is controversial, but I plan to do anyway since the manual says its "vital". If anyone has some tips, I am all ears.

I will follow up after they are installed and setup.

The heights will not be here till mid week.
post #37918 of 51595
If you can manage it please take photos of the install.
post #37919 of 51595
I ordered a pair of the RC-6cs as well and they were delivered today. I won't be installing them at my current place, but am excited to use them in the future for heights or back surrounds. I'm interested to gibsonpa's thoughts on the Cs/Ws and LCR as well!
post #37920 of 51595
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Originally Posted by kgallerie View Post

Owww...my ears........

Personally, I love the sound of Dave Matthews on quality speakers. My number one speaker testing song is Rapunzel from his album Before these Crowded Streets. Its a very busy song with a large range of instrumentals, so the detail and separation is tested pretty well. The bass digs deep in a couple sections as well.

If you want something lighter this is in my top 5 albums of all time.

http://www.amazon.com/Censored-Color...1588140&sr=8-1

Those little samples Amazon gives don't do any justice to the CD. The song New Orleans on there is my go to for speaker testing. The first time I played it on my RC-70s was the first time I could actually hear the bass player clearly.
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