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Hi Everyone,

I come from Hong Kong. Anyone know where can buy ENERGY RC-LCR center speaker form website is avaliable shipping to Hong Kong. Because this model is out of stock in Hong Kong. just checking with Vann website cannot shipping to Hong Kong Area. Please help...

THANKS
Eggcake

This is my Hi-Fi system. Energy Lover.!!

DENON PMA-2000AE, DCD-1500
YAMAHA RX-765, PS3 Slim
ENERGY RC-70
Wharfedeal Diamond Center
BMW LM1 x4 surround.

I recently picked up a pair of RC-70s and was looking for the matching center which seems to be only available at Vanns. I also noticed that they have the V5.2C for only $20 more than the RCLCR. It should be be a better speaker, but will it match the RC-70s? I was planning on RC-10s for the rear unless someone has a better suggestion? Thanks.

You might have to use eBay.
You have a really nice looking set up. Good luck securing the matching centre channel.

I would consider trying the V5.2 if you want, but that is just my opinion. The RC-LCR is a more safe bet for people that haven't been able to compare both side by side, but you can always return that V5.2 if you find you don't like it.

The RC-70s are readily available at Future Shop if anyone is interested. Don't be fooled by the guys asking $1400 for a pair of them on Kijiji or other sites in Canada, and stating that they can't be bought new anymore. These people are misleading you and have no credibility or business stating these claims. Don't give these parasites your money.

It is an introductory for newer listeners from what I experienced. I enjoyed the box set that I brought home, it was worth the investment for me.
Same with me for cars. One of my high school buddies was the main character in the commercials when this Grand Prix body style was first introduced. I had a GTP for winter and a GTX for summer. I still have the GTX and will keep it. They are a very solid and great car, but unfortunately, they only came in automatic.

Hello all,

I'll be finishing my basement later this year and, in anticipation of creating the least A/V compromised area of the house, I've already been purchasing speakers, and am trying to figure out my best bet for reproducing low frequencies.

I had previously decided upon using an HSU VTF2 Mk4, but am wondering if a pair of VSW10's might be better for me (if I can get them again at the steals that Vann's has been parting with them for - I picked up one for upstairs for $325, still not hooked up though, sigh).

The room will be roughly 12x22x7 with some small extra areas, totaling about 2800 cubic ft in all. My priorities are excellent sound musically, with very good HT being somewhat secondary (though not too far behind).

Here's what I have and planned (NIB=new in box):

mains: Energy RC-70 from upstairs
center: Energy RC-LCR (NIB)
side: Energy VS Surround (NIB)
rear: Mirage Omnican OC-55 in-ceiling (NIB)
AVR: Denon 3312ci (planned)

(Oh, also, should this be cross posted into the sub forum?)

Thanks for your input.

Dan

not really. since vanns doesn't ship to canada, that means having to drive down to a shipping/receiving place just across the border which is over 200 miles for me.

Then, if I was you, I would go for the RC-LCR for safety reasons.
From my experiences though, I would try the V5.2 if the system is mostly for home theatre. A little more emphasis on the highs could help some dialogue in my opinion. Either centre channels should be a home run, but my regular long term life experience is limited to the RC-LCR.

Hey Hank, I heard the 1.8s finally I'm with you in saying it seems nothing else comes close. I heard Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture......amazing! Especially with how crisp and tight the cannon fire at the end is. You should try it if you haven't already. I think it was in SACD format.

This crazy thing happens every now and then with my system and I can't figure out what it is:

Sometimes when I switch the front L/R to LARGE and play music it plays part of the soundtrack over another part (I tried different material, like iPod and CDs on different players so I know it's not that). Then when I push 'PAUSE' it plays the bass for about a second and a half after everything else stops... Anyone? Very annoying to have such great sounding music with a glitch in it

Update: I think I already found the problem. I switched the ADV. SURR settings and it stopped. Must just be a glitch in the receiver, which is what I suspected before.

You may be very disappointed in the VSW10 for HT, especially if you have been running your VTF-2 in 1 port open mode. The VSW10 is very good for music, but the tuning is set to roll off starting around 30hz. Not a good performer in the mid 20hz range. Better hook up the one you have and try it before getting another.

I guess having 2 of them won't make them go any lower, just louder, and maybe even out the modes a bit... is that correct?

I was thinking I might perhaps gain a little more use of the subs for stereo, but if it really throws HT off, then I'm not so sure. Plus, I haven't really figured out how to to drive them reasonably. Should I just be happy with the other choice and go with it?

Thanks

Vann's won't ship outside of the US because of their contract as authorized Energy dealer in the US. At the same time, the RC line is discontinued, except for Vann's which pay Energy to keep the production running for them (exclusively it seems; that is less clear).

The sad thing is, the RC-LCR is actually built in China. But I'm pretty sure you can't get it there.

That being said, I think you'll be able to order the RC-LCR on overstock.com. They will sell it to you in HKD (for 2900 HKD + shipping). They are not an authorized dealer but short of knowing someone in the US who could get it from Vann's and ship it back to you, this may be the only way. Good luck!



Well the RC-LCR is intended to be the matching center for the RC-70. And it's definitely an incredible center speaker. And it will match the RC-70 cosmetically as well as acoustically. I'd go with the LCR if I were you! How do you plan to deal with Vann's? Do you know someone in the US? Will you ship the package to a Kinek point? Or another business close to the border?


Yes -- but evening the room modes can actually be a huge advantage -- unless you always use your setup alone and always sitting at the same spot.

As for HT use, I think you'd have to actually listen to a movie with a serious sub to decide for yourself. I mean the gut-wrenching bass we hear is not that low -- sometimes around 40-50 Hz. Down to 20 Hz it's more a rumble. In my room I still have lots of output at 20 Hz but it's mainly vibration transmitted by the floor. Below that I see the SPL meter level rising but I don't hear much. It's more a feeling than something auditory. That may be what you're after, but I think a sub that rolls off at 30 Hz is not necessarily useless for movies.

So the obvious decision is... two VTF-2 Just kidding...

Guys, I think my RC-LCR just broke in. Suddenly much clearer. Hard to describe that. It's absolutely great. I just saw a movie with a creek running in front of the camera. The sound of dripping water was sooo detailed... I definitely did not experience that with the CC-10, and I saw the same movie with it. So maybe I'm late to the party but there it is. The LCR is great.

Louder and more surrounding sound is a reward. I have three subs working together in my home theatre setup and by most people's standards, it is quite impressive. I think that the quality of sound is the main goal, period. If decent components are used to reproduce sound, an enveloping quality sound will satisfy the demands. I use a S10.3 for the main muscle and it serves me well.

Yeah dude, the RC-LCR is very detailed. It beats out the RC-50 in clarity and holds its own with the RC-70 design but can't compete with bass.

I wouldn't count on two VSW10s being louder than the VTF-2. Most likely, you'll just get a few db extra from the additional sub over one. Plus, look at the difference in size and weight between the VSW10 and the VTF-2, and then consider that the VSW10 is only a 10" sub.

Incidentally, I have the Mirage Prestige S10 (same as the VSW10, just rebranded) as well as an Outlaw EX. So I know how it performs in comparison to a 12" ID sub. I really do think you ought to try it in your main setup where the VTF-2 is before you pursue this idea further.

This may also help you, Dan__. Here is a comparison from earlier in this thread between the VSW10 and the Outlaw LFM-1 Plus, which is comparable to the VTF-2:

For people in Ontario looking for a center for thier RC-70s here is a nice V5.2c in black $375 http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/detai...enter_channel/. Also found a Veritas 2.0 center that looks to be a "i" model local $275 that I was going to buy for fun but have been told to look for another job as I am in line for layoffs. : (

Watch out, and good luck.

A-men, but really though, they have been on sale long enough that anyone really wanting them, would have bought them by now, so hopefully these guys get stuck with them if they intended on flipping them for profit...scumbags..

Kevin, this is how I dealt with it ( a post to another new RC-LCR owner):

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post19886564

and this is what it looks like on my system (without the two extra RC-10's there now):

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post20435840

Has worked fine for me for about a year.

I debated using a riser but finally ordered a wall mount for the TV. Amazon and Monoprice seem to have really nice solutions at very affordable prices.

That being said, I did not install the mount yet. My GF agreed to let me do that -- and help me -- at the condition that we fix other stuff in the house first. We're slowly moving down the to-do list; I expect being able to wall-mount the TV before the summer

I'm slightly afraid the TV will be too high though, and I'm not planning on changing the HT cabinet for a lower one. Well it should only be a couple inches higher and the mount can be tilted so that should not be too much of a problem. I think having the LCR at ears' height will really make it shine. I often find myself putting my head at the current LCR height and it does change how it sounds quite a bit.


That sucks Good luck.

Same here. I've had a boxed up wall mount leaning against the wall for a few weeks now...I'm so lazy. I have sorta mixed feelings about wall-mounting, but it would be nice to not be blocking the bottom 1/2" of the TV when I'm lying down. I was impressed at the price difference of Monoprice versus anything local. Scary markup on that stuff.

Sent you a PM

Fast forward about a week:










Shout-outs: the Energy Owners Thread Regulars (y'all know who you is), my man deano86, Vann's. But especially Vann's. This transaction was hairy and troubled from the start, then suddenly Vann's customer service machinery shifted into overdrive.

Now my 2.1 music-only setup contains cherry RC-70s, which when I began my speaker frenzy in November 2010, were so un-gettable that I didn't even allow myself to think about them.

I gotta sit back and just process this turn of events for a little bit, 'scuse.

SaviorMachine - congrats, those look great!


In separate news, I finally decided on the Denon 2112. It should show up early next week, I'm pretty excited. I can't wait to get those RCs all calibrated.

Savior Machine,
I think you need a larger Flat Screen/Monitor. Doesn't quite fit with those large towers!

Hahaha. I promised myself that the PC/music room wouldn't turn into another Theater Situation. I'm sticking with my little monitor to discourage video in that room