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post #38041 of 47663
Hi Everyone,

I come from Hong Kong. Anyone know where can buy ENERGY RC-LCR center speaker form website is avaliable shipping to Hong Kong. Because this model is out of stock in Hong Kong. just checking with Vann website cannot shipping to Hong Kong Area. Please help...

THANKS
Eggcake

This is my Hi-Fi system. Energy Lover.!!

DENON PMA-2000AE, DCD-1500
YAMAHA RX-765, PS3 Slim
ENERGY RC-70
Wharfedeal Diamond Center
BMW LM1 x4 surround.

post #38042 of 47663
I recently picked up a pair of RC-70s and was looking for the matching center which seems to be only available at Vanns. I also noticed that they have the V5.2C for only $20 more than the RCLCR. It should be be a better speaker, but will it match the RC-70s? I was planning on RC-10s for the rear unless someone has a better suggestion? Thanks.
post #38043 of 47663
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Originally Posted by eggcake View Post

Hi Everyone,

I come from Hong Kong. Anyone know where can buy ENERGY RC-LCR center speaker form website is avaliable shipping to Hong Kong. Because this model is out of stock in Hong Kong. just checking with Vann website cannot shipping to Hong Kong Area. Please help...

THANKS
Eggcake

This is my Hi-Fi system. Energy Lover.!!

DENON PMA-2000AE, DCD-1500
YAMAHA RX-765, PS3 Slim
ENERGY RC-70
Wharfedeal Diamond Center
BMW LM1 x4 surround.

You might have to use eBay.
You have a really nice looking set up. Good luck securing the matching centre channel.
post #38044 of 47663
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Originally Posted by brendelac View Post

I recently picked up a pair of RC-70s and was looking for the matching center which seems to be only available at Vanns. I also noticed that they have the V5.2C for only $20 more than the RCLCR. It should be be a better speaker, but will it match the RC-70s? I was planning on RC-10s for the rear unless someone has a better suggestion? Thanks.

I would consider trying the V5.2 if you want, but that is just my opinion. The RC-LCR is a more safe bet for people that haven't been able to compare both side by side, but you can always return that V5.2 if you find you don't like it.
post #38045 of 47663
The RC-70s are readily available at Future Shop if anyone is interested. Don't be fooled by the guys asking $1400 for a pair of them on Kijiji or other sites in Canada, and stating that they can't be bought new anymore. These people are misleading you and have no credibility or business stating these claims. Don't give these parasites your money.
post #38046 of 47663
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Originally Posted by gtp3 View Post

hahaha I don't hate classical at all, I'm just not experienced to find/pick/choose music that I'd appreciate at the moment. I do hear and have heard songs that I do enjoy listening to, but don't know which composer/symphony they are lol.

Yup - you got it...grand prix GTP
Back in the late 90's and early 00's it was a car that I was very fond of. As a car enthusiast, it was probably the first car that sparked my interest.
Since then I've only driven manual cars and motorcycles and no longer have any interest in automatic cars

It is an introductory for newer listeners from what I experienced. I enjoyed the box set that I brought home, it was worth the investment for me.
Same with me for cars. One of my high school buddies was the main character in the commercials when this Grand Prix body style was first introduced. I had a GTP for winter and a GTX for summer. I still have the GTX and will keep it. They are a very solid and great car, but unfortunately, they only came in automatic.
post #38047 of 47663
Hello all,

I'll be finishing my basement later this year and, in anticipation of creating the least A/V compromised area of the house, I've already been purchasing speakers, and am trying to figure out my best bet for reproducing low frequencies.

I had previously decided upon using an HSU VTF2 Mk4, but am wondering if a pair of VSW10's might be better for me (if I can get them again at the steals that Vann's has been parting with them for - I picked up one for upstairs for $325, still not hooked up though, sigh).

The room will be roughly 12x22x7 with some small extra areas, totaling about 2800 cubic ft in all. My priorities are excellent sound musically, with very good HT being somewhat secondary (though not too far behind).

Here's what I have and planned (NIB=new in box):

mains: Energy RC-70 from upstairs
center: Energy RC-LCR (NIB)
side: Energy VS Surround (NIB)
rear: Mirage Omnican OC-55 in-ceiling (NIB)
AVR: Denon 3312ci (planned)

(Oh, also, should this be cross posted into the sub forum?)

Thanks for your input.

Dan
post #38048 of 47663
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Originally Posted by Hank Mardukous View Post

...you can always return that V5.2 if you find you don't like it.

not really. since vanns doesn't ship to canada, that means having to drive down to a shipping/receiving place just across the border which is over 200 miles for me.
post #38049 of 47663
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Originally Posted by brendelac View Post

not really. since vanns doesn't ship to canada, that means having to drive down to a shipping/receiving place just across the border which is over 200 miles for me.

Then, if I was you, I would go for the RC-LCR for safety reasons.
From my experiences though, I would try the V5.2 if the system is mostly for home theatre. A little more emphasis on the highs could help some dialogue in my opinion. Either centre channels should be a home run, but my regular long term life experience is limited to the RC-LCR.
post #38050 of 47663
Hey Hank, I heard the 1.8s finally I'm with you in saying it seems nothing else comes close. I heard Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture......amazing! Especially with how crisp and tight the cannon fire at the end is. You should try it if you haven't already. I think it was in SACD format.
post #38051 of 47663
This crazy thing happens every now and then with my system and I can't figure out what it is:

Sometimes when I switch the front L/R to LARGE and play music it plays part of the soundtrack over another part (I tried different material, like iPod and CDs on different players so I know it's not that). Then when I push 'PAUSE' it plays the bass for about a second and a half after everything else stops... Anyone? Very annoying to have such great sounding music with a glitch in it

Update: I think I already found the problem. I switched the ADV. SURR settings and it stopped. Must just be a glitch in the receiver, which is what I suspected before.
post #38052 of 47663
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Originally Posted by Dan__ View Post

I had previously decided upon using an HSU VTF2 Mk4, but am wondering if a pair of VSW10's might be better for me (if I can get them again at the steals that Vann's has been parting with them for - I picked up one for upstairs for $325, still not hooked up though, sigh).

You may be very disappointed in the VSW10 for HT, especially if you have been running your VTF-2 in 1 port open mode. The VSW10 is very good for music, but the tuning is set to roll off starting around 30hz. Not a good performer in the mid 20hz range. Better hook up the one you have and try it before getting another.
post #38053 of 47663
I guess having 2 of them won't make them go any lower, just louder, and maybe even out the modes a bit... is that correct?

I was thinking I might perhaps gain a little more use of the subs for stereo, but if it really throws HT off, then I'm not so sure. Plus, I haven't really figured out how to to drive them reasonably. Should I just be happy with the other choice and go with it?

Thanks
post #38054 of 47663
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Originally Posted by eggcake View Post

I come from Hong Kong. Anyone know where can buy ENERGY RC-LCR center speaker form website is avaliable shipping to Hong Kong. Because this model is out of stock in Hong Kong. just checking with Vann website cannot shipping to Hong Kong Area. Please help...

Vann's won't ship outside of the US because of their contract as authorized Energy dealer in the US. At the same time, the RC line is discontinued, except for Vann's which pay Energy to keep the production running for them (exclusively it seems; that is less clear).

The sad thing is, the RC-LCR is actually built in China. But I'm pretty sure you can't get it there.

That being said, I think you'll be able to order the RC-LCR on overstock.com. They will sell it to you in HKD (for 2900 HKD + shipping). They are not an authorized dealer but short of knowing someone in the US who could get it from Vann's and ship it back to you, this may be the only way. Good luck!


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Originally Posted by brendelac View Post

I recently picked up a pair of RC-70s and was looking for the matching center which seems to be only available at Vanns. I also noticed that they have the V5.2C for only $20 more than the RCLCR. It should be be a better speaker, but will it match the RC-70s? I was planning on RC-10s for the rear unless someone has a better suggestion? Thanks.

Well the RC-LCR is intended to be the matching center for the RC-70. And it's definitely an incredible center speaker. And it will match the RC-70 cosmetically as well as acoustically. I'd go with the LCR if I were you! How do you plan to deal with Vann's? Do you know someone in the US? Will you ship the package to a Kinek point? Or another business close to the border?

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Originally Posted by Dan__ View Post

I guess having 2 of them won't make them go any lower, just louder, and maybe even out the modes a bit... is that correct?

Yes -- but evening the room modes can actually be a huge advantage -- unless you always use your setup alone and always sitting at the same spot.

As for HT use, I think you'd have to actually listen to a movie with a serious sub to decide for yourself. I mean the gut-wrenching bass we hear is not that low -- sometimes around 40-50 Hz. Down to 20 Hz it's more a rumble. In my room I still have lots of output at 20 Hz but it's mainly vibration transmitted by the floor. Below that I see the SPL meter level rising but I don't hear much. It's more a feeling than something auditory. That may be what you're after, but I think a sub that rolls off at 30 Hz is not necessarily useless for movies.

So the obvious decision is... two VTF-2 Just kidding...
post #38055 of 47663
Guys, I think my RC-LCR just broke in. Suddenly much clearer. Hard to describe that. It's absolutely great. I just saw a movie with a creek running in front of the camera. The sound of dripping water was sooo detailed... I definitely did not experience that with the CC-10, and I saw the same movie with it. So maybe I'm late to the party but there it is. The LCR is great.
post #38056 of 47663
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Originally Posted by Dan__ View Post

I guess having 2 of them won't make them go any lower, just louder, and maybe even out the modes a bit... is that correct?

I was thinking I might perhaps gain a little more use of the subs for stereo, but if it really throws HT off, then I'm not so sure. Plus, I haven't really figured out how to to drive them reasonably. Should I just be happy with the other choice and go with it?

Thanks

Louder and more surrounding sound is a reward. I have three subs working together in my home theatre setup and by most people's standards, it is quite impressive. I think that the quality of sound is the main goal, period. If decent components are used to reproduce sound, an enveloping quality sound will satisfy the demands. I use a S10.3 for the main muscle and it serves me well.
post #38057 of 47663
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

Guys, I think my RC-LCR just broke in. Suddenly much clearer. Hard to describe that. It's absolutely great. I just saw a movie with a creek running in front of the camera. The sound of dripping water was sooo detailed... I definitely did not experience that with the CC-10, and I saw the same movie with it. So maybe I'm late to the party but there it is. The LCR is great.

Yeah dude, the RC-LCR is very detailed. It beats out the RC-50 in clarity and holds its own with the RC-70 design but can't compete with bass.
post #38058 of 47663
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Originally Posted by Dan__ View Post

I guess having 2 of them won't make them go any lower, just louder, and maybe even out the modes a bit... is that correct?

I was thinking I might perhaps gain a little more use of the subs for stereo, but if it really throws HT off, then I'm not so sure.

I wouldn't count on two VSW10s being louder than the VTF-2. Most likely, you'll just get a few db extra from the additional sub over one. Plus, look at the difference in size and weight between the VSW10 and the VTF-2, and then consider that the VSW10 is only a 10" sub.

Incidentally, I have the Mirage Prestige S10 (same as the VSW10, just rebranded) as well as an Outlaw EX. So I know how it performs in comparison to a 12" ID sub. I really do think you ought to try it in your main setup where the VTF-2 is before you pursue this idea further.
post #38059 of 47663
This may also help you, Dan__. Here is a comparison from earlier in this thread between the VSW10 and the Outlaw LFM-1 Plus, which is comparable to the VTF-2:

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Originally Posted by FieldingMelish View Post

I auditioned the VSW10 in place of my Outlaw LFM-1 Plus and the sound in the room lost all of the atmosphere when playing some favorite movie scenes. Night and day difference; I would call it ordinary sounding to the point where it could have been TV speakers. I had the VSW10 on hand during the post holiday buying frenzy when upon its shipping, I was able to score a B-stock Outlaw. I am sending back the VSW10 unless I can fathom hearing it's musicality at my office in it's smaller room where it would shine..
post #38060 of 47663
For people in Ontario looking for a center for thier RC-70s here is a nice V5.2c in black $375 http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/detai...enter_channel/. Also found a Veritas 2.0 center that looks to be a "i" model local $275 that I was going to buy for fun but have been told to look for another job as I am in line for layoffs. : (
post #38061 of 47663
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Originally Posted by CalgaryCowboy View Post

I... have been told to look for another job as I am in line for layoffs. : (

Watch out, and good luck.
post #38062 of 47663
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Originally Posted by Hank Mardukous View Post

Don't give these parasites your money.

A-men, but really though, they have been on sale long enough that anyone really wanting them, would have bought them by now, so hopefully these guys get stuck with them if they intended on flipping them for profit...scumbags..
post #38063 of 47663
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Originally Posted by pokekevin View Post

Hell yea!

Expected arrival march 20th
Just gotta figure out how to raise the tv 2.5 inches

Probably going to just use a 2x4 and paint it black lol

Kevin, this is how I dealt with it ( a post to another new RC-LCR owner):

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post19886564

and this is what it looks like on my system (without the two extra RC-10's there now):

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post20435840

Has worked fine for me for about a year.
post #38064 of 47663
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Originally Posted by hernanu View Post

Kevin, this is how I dealt with it ( a post to another new RC-LCR owner):

I debated using a riser but finally ordered a wall mount for the TV. Amazon and Monoprice seem to have really nice solutions at very affordable prices.

That being said, I did not install the mount yet. My GF agreed to let me do that -- and help me -- at the condition that we fix other stuff in the house first. We're slowly moving down the to-do list; I expect being able to wall-mount the TV before the summer

I'm slightly afraid the TV will be too high though, and I'm not planning on changing the HT cabinet for a lower one. Well it should only be a couple inches higher and the mount can be tilted so that should not be too much of a problem. I think having the LCR at ears' height will really make it shine. I often find myself putting my head at the current LCR height and it does change how it sounds quite a bit.

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Originally Posted by CalgaryCowboy View Post

have been told to look for another job as I am in line for layoffs. : (

That sucks Good luck.
post #38065 of 47663
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

I debated using a riser but finally ordered a wall mount for the TV. Amazon and Monoprice seem to have really nice solutions at very affordable prices.

Same here. I've had a boxed up wall mount leaning against the wall for a few weeks now...I'm so lazy. I have sorta mixed feelings about wall-mounting, but it would be nice to not be blocking the bottom 1/2" of the TV when I'm lying down. I was impressed at the price difference of Monoprice versus anything local. Scary markup on that stuff.
post #38066 of 47663
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Originally Posted by y2kbug77 View Post

Thanks for all of that. Right now I only have the pair of RC-70s. I will be finishing the 5.1 setup once I get into a house in a few months.
I like the fact that the RC-Rs can be wall mounted, but they seem very hard to find nowadays. How close tonally are the current Verita Surrounds? Would they sound out of place? I know rear speakers aren't quite as important, but any sibilance would drive me nuts. That's why I picked the nice neutral RC-70s.

Sent you a PM
post #38067 of 47663
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Originally Posted by SaviorMachine View Post

I've received my RC-70s and installed them in my guest room. Side note: the boxes were tortured in shipping, and the plinth on one of the speakers got all jacked up--bent and shattered at its front right corner. Calling Vann's on Monday to see if they will do the right thing and send me a free replacement plinth.

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Originally Posted by Hank Mardukous View Post

Congrats on the RC-70s!!
Too bad that you got a damaged one, but I'm sure they'll take care of you.

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Originally Posted by deano86 View Post

Looks like those 2 RC-70's in Cherry are in!

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...51/energy-rc70



Fast forward about a week:










Shout-outs: the Energy Owners Thread Regulars (y'all know who you is), my man deano86, Vann's. But especially Vann's. This transaction was hairy and troubled from the start, then suddenly Vann's customer service machinery shifted into overdrive.

Now my 2.1 music-only setup contains cherry RC-70s, which when I began my speaker frenzy in November 2010, were so un-gettable that I didn't even allow myself to think about them.

I gotta sit back and just process this turn of events for a little bit, 'scuse.
LL
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post #38068 of 47663
SaviorMachine - congrats, those look great!


In separate news, I finally decided on the Denon 2112. It should show up early next week, I'm pretty excited. I can't wait to get those RCs all calibrated.
post #38069 of 47663
Savior Machine,
I think you need a larger Flat Screen/Monitor. Doesn't quite fit with those large towers!
post #38070 of 47663
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Savior Machine,
I think you need a larger Flat Screen/Monitor. Doesn't quite fit with those large towers!

Hahaha. I promised myself that the PC/music room wouldn't turn into another Theater Situation. I'm sticking with my little monitor to discourage video in that room
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