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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

Congrats on your find Hank. Are these JBL's

Thanks man! As batpig pointed out, they are older Energy speakers.

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Thanks for chimming in guys on my rant. Feel better knowing that other than Hank I am not alone here. On another note my wife is from Canada and her favorite group is Rush, ya I said Rush not your normal chick band thats for sure. Actually that bands not for everyone. I am happy to say she has dragged my sorry @%^$##% to 5 of these Rush concerts, of coarse I am always pleased to tag along. I grew up on Rush back in the 1970's and 80's Well the wife got wind they are on another world tour so we will be going to see them in Seattle this fall. Whatever makes the wife happy right guys?

I'm not sure how to take that! I'll assume you mean we're just enthusiastic and find fantastic deals.
Rush is definitely not a chick band, you probably have to keep an eye on your wife as she is probably the only female at those concerts! I have a few vinyl pressings of some Rush, but the guys voice isn't my favourite. It's kind of strange because I love Guns N' Roses.

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The Pro series was the entry level in the mid 90's (below the "even-number" Connoisseurs). Pro .5 is a small bookshelf, then it goes 1.5, 2.5, 3.5, etc. as you get larger speakers.

I also snagged a pair of the Pro .5 a couple of months ago, also for $20 on craigslist. They are currently serving duty as garage speakers for a buddy. I agree with Hank, very nice for entry-level speakers that are 15+ years old. Not as smooth or refined as the RC's but quite nice. Especially for 20 bucks.

These Pro Series .5 speakers are very impressive to me. I would be more than happy to pay in the $100s for them, if they included mounting brackets of some kind. I have no problems recommending these to anyone that wants surrounds to go with their current RCs. I am switching back and forth between the RC-70s and .5s using a Michael Jackson cassette playing through a Nakamichi tape deck, The Red Hot Chilli Peppers and Roy Orbison CDs playing through the best juke box CD player that I have ever heard. It's a Sony, and in my opinion it beats out $1000 Pioneer and other juke boxes with no contest, go figure.

Directly against the RC-70s, the .5s hold their own much more than what should be expected, in comparison to other speakers. I will first say that the Pro Series .5s can sound thinner at times, but it is a two way bookshelf speaker that plays down to 60 Hz being compared to a three way tower speaker that plays down to 31 Hz. The RC-70s sound bigger of course, (they are almost nine times the size of the .5s) and smoother, but the similarities are undeniable. It's insane really. You guys are going to kill me, but the RC-70s can sound a little bloated at times, in comparison, but this is just beacuse my ears are getting use to the speakers, as I A/B them. That being said, speaker placement and the room will definitely have a role in me forming this opinion. Don't get me wrong, I'm not selling the RC-70s, but these .5s are also never going anywhere. I am positive that I will use them in a setup for many more years. I will definitely hold on to them for when my HT receiver dies, and then these .5s will be heights or some sort of additional surrounds.
I am thrilled that I found these, and can't wait to use them for surrounds.
As I always say, Energy made spectacular products for the money, back in the day. This is just another example.


Would you be able to borrow your buddies Pro Series .5s sometime to do a more fair comparison with your RC-10s? I would love to find out how they can stand up with a more comparible RC speaker.
post #39002 of 51452
I'm not sure how to take that! I'll assume you mean we're just enthusiastic and find fantastic deals.
Rush is definitely not a chick band, you probably have to keep an eye on your wife as she is probably the only female at those concerts! I have a few vinyl pressings of some Rush, but the guys voice isn't my favourite. It's kind of strange because I love Guns N' Roses.

I meant that in a good way Hank. I remembered seeing a picture of your setup. Is it 4 rc-70's 4 rc-50's and some other goodies thrown in there?

Rush is one of those groups that arent for everyone. A lot of people associate Rush with their synthisizer era music from the 1980's. The bands been around since 1974 and is still putting out new music with their new release comming out soon. Almost every band thats been around along time only relies on playing their music that made them famouse and havent produced new music in a long time. My wife is all excited this morning about seeing them this fall. She and I have seen them 5 times. Oh by the way her best girlfriend is as crazy as she is about Rush, so I guess their are 2 chicks out their. LOL

Sorry guys I know its an energy thread will stop with the Rush stuff, guess I am just as excited as my wife.
post #39003 of 51452
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Originally Posted by caper_1 View Post

They aren't in there just YET. I am still waiting for my V-S to arrive first!

Only thing I can say is thats just unreal man. In the bathroom. LOL
post #39004 of 51452
I think the point of speakers in Room that we don't use much is interesting...but how about us that squirel away speakers for "future use" or "testing"?

I'll start
2 V minis
1 ESW V8
2 old sony towers

I had more before I discovered Kijiji and sold some and bought others.
post #39005 of 51452
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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

I'm not sure how to take that! I'll assume you mean we're just enthusiastic and find fantastic deals.
Rush is definitely not a chick band, you probably have to keep an eye on your wife as she is probably the only female at those concerts! I have a few vinyl pressings of some Rush, but the guys voice isn't my favourite. It's kind of strange because I love Guns N' Roses.

I meant that in a good way Hank. I remembered seeing a picture of your setup. Is it 4 rc-70's 4 rc-50's and some other goodies thrown in there?

Rush is one of those groups that arent for everyone. A lot of people associate Rush with their synthisizer era music from the 1980's. The bands been around since 1974 and is still putting out new music with their new release comming out soon. Almost every band thats been around along time only relies on playing their music that made them famouse and havent produced new music in a long time. My wife is all excited this morning about seeing them this fall. She and I have seen them 5 times. Oh by the way her best girlfriend is as crazy as she is about Rush, so I guess their are 2 chicks out their. LOL

Sorry guys I know its an energy thread will stop with the Rush stuff, guess I am just as excited as my wife.

I figured that was how you meant it, and I was joking with you. It doesn't bother me what people think anyways, even when they're not being friendly.(even though I know that's not the case)
I sold a pair of cherry RC-50s. Now there are six RC-70s and two RC-50s, and a RC-LCR in the house. I may get one more RC-70 for a centre channel, but I honestly don't think I will bother after getting these Pro Series .5s. I can't justify the purchase anymore, even with the incredible RC-70 $399-$499 price tag.
I wouldn't worry too much about occasionally mentioning other things besides Energy speakers here. Sometimes there are a ton of other topics being discussed, that don't really have anything to do with Energy. Others may feel differently, but this just seems to be the way it is. If we all start talking about gardening though, this could quickly change. I guess we could be listening to Energy speakers while planting tomatoes! Anyways, I hope you guys love the concert! You'll be the envy of everyone there, showing up with BOTH of the girls!
post #39006 of 51452
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Originally Posted by CalgaryCowboy View Post

I think the point of speakers in Room that we don't use much is interesting...but how about us that squirel away speakers for "future use" or "testing"?

I'll start
2 V minis
1 ESW V8
2 old sony towers

I had more before I discovered Kijiji and sold some and bought others.

Yeah....I have 2 old cambridge soundworks passive 8" subs, pair C50s, C-C50, a pair of BIC DV62si's that are currently sitting in boxes on the floor of my spare room. Not to mention, an onkyo TX-DS575x, Marantz SR5500, Denon DRA-375rd sitting on the floor as well.
post #39007 of 51452
new Energy product coming soon, posted on Energy's FB page:
http://www.energy-speakers.com/comin...u=POWER-SUB-12

the POWER 12 sub..... it gives you POWER.... POWER!!!!

12" sub... but only a 14" cube enclosure.... and a 75 watt (continuous) amp POWER rating.... and a -3dB spec of 35Hz!!

SO MUCH POWER IT STARTS ROLLING OFF AT 40HZ BABY!!!!
post #39008 of 51452
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Originally Posted by CalgaryCowboy View Post

I think the point of speakers in Room that we don't use much is interesting...but how about us that squirel away speakers for "future use" or "testing"?

I'll start
2 V minis
1 ESW V8
2 old sony towers

I had more before I discovered Kijiji and sold some and bought others.

I hear you on that one, I have 4 old sony towers from the year 1999, bought them new always liked them. Now not sure what to do with those as well but save them for the garage duty with my yamaha htr 5940 reciever. Actually they work good with that reciever. That way all I have to do is open the garage bay doors and instant tunes for outside.

Are you going to keep squireling away with speakers?
post #39009 of 51452
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

new Energy product coming soon, posted on Energy's FB page:
http://www.energy-speakers.com/comin...u=POWER-SUB-12

the POWER 12 sub..... it gives you POWER.... POWER!!!!

12" sub... but only a 14" cube enclosure.... and a 75 watt (continuous) amp POWER rating.... and a -3dB spec of 35Hz!!

SO MUCH POWER IT STARTS ROLLING OFF AT 40HZ BABY!!!!

If it's under $200, that might be a nice mid-bass module . . . in a bedroom (lol).
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and the POWER TEN sub is here:
http://www.energy-speakers.com/subwoofers/?sku=1013559

-3dB spec of 45Hz!!!

it weights FIFTEEN POUNDS and has a 50 watt amp rating!! 100 watts peak!
post #39011 of 51452
Hank, Im still debating those Paradigm Studio 60's V1 in cherry that I mentioned to you a few weeks back. Talked to the guy the other day and he still has them. Would sell for 300. Not sure what I would do with them but like that one guy said I could squirel them away for a later set up.
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I have 2 CF-70'S a CC-10 and a ESWC-10 all have less than 50 hours on them, probally not even that many hours and I have all the original boxes and double boxes for the towers I am willing to sell for $600 if anyone is interested PM me
post #39013 of 51452
Studio 60's for $300 is a very good deal, even if they are V1. The Paradigm Studio series is highly regarded.
post #39014 of 51452
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Studio 60's for $300 is a very good deal, even if they are V1. The Paradigm Studio series is highly regarded.

Thanks batpig, I told the guy 3 weeks ago that I was going rc-70's, but those studio 60's have been in the back of my mind and at 300 and also in cherry and great shape, its eating at me a bit.
post #39015 of 51452
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Originally Posted by CalgaryCowboy View Post

I think the point of speakers in Room that we don't use much is interesting...but how about us that squirel away speakers for "future use" or "testing"?

I'll start
2 V minis
1 ESW V8
2 old sony towers

I had more before I discovered Kijiji and sold some and bought others.

the two V-minis and the V8 sub would be a dynamite little 2.1 setup for an office or bedroom.
post #39016 of 51452
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Studio 60's for $300 is a very good deal, even if they are V1. The Paradigm Studio series is highly regarded.

batpig need your input on this. What would you rather have the Studio 60's in cherry for 300 or RC-50's in black for 400. Both are around 100 miles from me.
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Hard to say. I've never heard either speaker. Is the cherry finish real wood? That might tempt me, if it's just a vinyl faux-wood finish I'd probably get the RC-50's. I'd be tempted to try the Studios just because you already have a bunch of RC's, it would be interesting to hear something different. You should be able to resell them pretty easily if you don't like them as much as your RC's.
post #39018 of 51452
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Originally Posted by CalgaryCowboy View Post

I think the point of speakers in Room that we don't use much is interesting...but how about us that squirel away speakers for "future use" or "testing"?

I'll start
2 V minis
1 ESW V8
2 old sony towers

I had more before I discovered Kijiji and sold some and bought others.

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Originally Posted by CalgaryCowboy View Post

I think the point of speakers in Room that we don't use much is interesting...but how about us that squirel away speakers for "future use" or "testing"?

I'll start
2 V minis
1 ESW V8
2 old sony towers

I had more before I discovered Kijiji and sold some and bought others.

I have a few speakers kicking around as well.
Energy-Pro 22, Pro Series .5, C-8, Veritas 1.8, e:XL-26, RC-70, RC-50, --JVC SK-404, AKAI CW-T40, Rectilinear XII, a few Klipsch Pro Media, Klipsch Ultra, Nexxtechs

I too have also sold or gifted a lot speakers in the past. Sony, Technics, Energy, Kenwood, Klipsch, Cerwin Vega and many more.

I also have a couple of amps and toys on hand, just in case the amp monster comes to earth and cleans everyone out. Here are some of the better ones.
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post #39019 of 51452
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Hard to say. I've never heard either speaker. Is the cherry finish real wood? That might tempt me, if it's just a vinyl faux-wood finish I'd probably get the RC-50's. I'd be tempted to try the Studios just because you already have a bunch of RC's, it would be interesting to hear something different. You should be able to resell them pretty easily if you don't like them as much as your RC's.

The studio 60's are real cherry finished wood. I did have a pair of Studio 40's V3 last summer but they arrived dinged up so sent them back to the seller. They sounded really good for a bookshelf, and a dam big book shelf at that.
The 60's have the same speaker arraingment just in a tower, so it should sound more full. But the V1 & V2 from what I have read are a bit brighter than the V3 versions.

Also found a demo pair ( not sure what he means by that) Studio 40's V2 with original boxes in rosenut for 400, but there about 250 miles from me.
post #39020 of 51452
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

new Energy product coming soon, posted on Energy's FB page:
http://www.energy-speakers.com/comin...u=POWER-SUB-12

the POWER 12 sub..... it gives you POWER.... POWER!!!!

12" sub... but only a 14" cube enclosure.... and a 75 watt (continuous) amp POWER rating.... and a -3dB spec of 35Hz!!

SO MUCH POWER IT STARTS ROLLING OFF AT 40HZ BABY!!!!

I saw that ......

What the hell is happening to the energy brand???

35 hz from a 12" sub is crappy......the S10.3 goes down to 21hz.....i dont get it.
post #39021 of 51452
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

new Energy product coming soon, posted on Energy's FB page:
http://www.energy-speakers.com/comin...u=POWER-SUB-12

the POWER 12 sub..... it gives you POWER.... POWER!!!!

12" sub... but only a 14" cube enclosure.... and a 75 watt (continuous) amp POWER rating.... and a -3dB spec of 35Hz!!

SO MUCH POWER IT STARTS ROLLING OFF AT 40HZ BABY!!!!

Wow, I guess the Power had to be somewhere, too bad it's only in the name.
post #39022 of 51452
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Originally Posted by Hank Mardukous View Post

I have a few speakers kicking around as well.
Energy-Pro 22, Pro Series .5, C-8, Veritas 1.8, e:XL-26, RC-70, RC-50, --JVC SK-404, AKAI CW-T40, Rectilinear XII, a few Klipsch Pro Media, Klipsch Ultra, Nexxtechs

I too have also sold or gifted a lot speakers in the past. Sony, Technics, Energy, Kenwood, Klipsch, Cerwin Vega and many more.

I also have a couple of amps and toys on hand, just in case the amp monster comes to earth and cleans everyone out. Here are some of the better ones.

I recognize that old 1977 sx-950 you have there. I have a 1978 sx -1080 that I pair with my 1978 Pioneer HPM 100's version B 200 watt versions.
Love they way those sound on the sx-1080, perfect match
post #39023 of 51452
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Originally Posted by Hank Mardukous View Post

Wow, I guess the Power had to be somewhere, too bad it's only in the name.

That was one of my points in a post I made last night. Paranoid of what the future has to offer us from Energy, time to start gathering all the good one now. GEEZZ paraniod or just smart thinking??
post #39024 of 51452
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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

I recognize that old 1977 sx-950 you have there. I have a 1978 sx -1080 that I pair with my 1978 Pioneer HPM 100's version B 200 watt versions.
Love they way those sound on the sx-1080, perfect match

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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

That was one of my points in a post I made last night. Paranoid of what the future has to offer us from Energy, time to start gathering all the good one now. GEEZZ paraniod or just smart thinking??

I just reconditioned this SX-950 to better than new. It works awesome and I really like it. I like the Luxman better, but this is a keeper.

I can relate, and I did just that with the current RC line. I bought all of the quality speakers that I could possibly need, when I found them at fire sale prices. I can't see myself sticking around Energy with the new products that they are coming out with. I don't think I'll ever switch brands and buy new speakers from another company, unless of course my current speakers get damaged or something along those lines. Even their member emails and stuff are starting to bother me, it just isn't for me.
post #39025 of 51452
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Originally Posted by Hank Mardukous View Post

Would you be able to borrow your buddies Pro Series .5s sometime to do a more fair comparison with your RC-10s? I would love to find out how they can stand up with a more comparible RC speaker.

before I gave them to my buddy I had them set up next to my RC-10's for a few weeks and demo'd them extensively A/B. I agree in many ways with your thoughts:

- the overall tonality is very similar to the RC's, but shouldn't be a surprise considering the consistency of Energy's design philosophy. They have that same neutral, smooth sound signature, although the RC-10's are definitely "warmer" and "thicker" sounding. But I agree that they would blend in no problem as surrounds or heights in an RC setup.

- as you noted the .5's have a "thinner" sound than the RC's, it's not just bookshelf vs. tower, because it was obvious with the RC-10's as well. When A/B switching from the .5's to the RC-10's I would also get that initial impression of "tubby" sound until my ears readjusted.

- I found the .5's to have a very sweet high end, again with that "thinner" sound it makes it sound a bit more detailed and lively. Unfortunately those old brochures still are missing from Energy's website but, when I did look before, what interested my was that the .5's were listed as having a dual-hyperdome tweeter which was actually different than the tweeters on the tower versions (3.5 and 4.5) which I believe had a laminate soft dome tweeter.

- although they aren't that small and have a 5" woofer, the RC-10's definitely spanked the .5's in bass response. Deeper, fuller, smoother.... the .5's can work fine for a small room 2ch setup at moderate volume but I would want a small sub for more serious listening. Unlike the RC-10's which can really stand alone for a small room 2ch rig without a sub unless you are really hitting the bass heavy stuff.

- the build quality of course is significantly below the RC's, standard vinyl veneer, non-removable grill, the visible joints/seams in the back... that is one area where the RC's are really peerless for the price.

Personally I wouldn't pay $100+ for them (although in terms of pure sonics they can easily compete with many bookshelfs that cost that much) because of the lower build quality / aesthetics and the fact that there are better speakers available for that price on the used market. AT $50 or under they are a great value, but at the $100ish price point used you can get speakers like C-1, C-2 or C-3 connoisseurs, 2.1e and 3.1e, etc. I do think I like them better than the e:XL series though, but I haven't heard those in a while so it's hard to say from memory.
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Hank, I think the same thing. Maybe the original Energy guys might pop up some day once the non compete agreement expires. I do enjoy my new V series speakers but don't see myself going to other engery products anytime soon.
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Will be a proud RC-70 owner on Friday. Ordered yesterday around lunch time by call in for $399 each. And is scheduled for delivery tomorrow. Thanks Vanns for fast shipping so I could set up and play over the weekend. Thanks to all RC owners here provide many of good information here. I'm sure I will be a happy RC owner too even order them without any audition.
post #39028 of 51452
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

the two V-minis and the V8 sub would be a dynamite little 2.1 setup for an office or bedroom.

Exactly my plan. Just haven't decided which one and what to use as sources. Have spare Denon 2707 kicking around.
post #39029 of 51452
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Originally Posted by xftman View Post

Will be a proud RC-70 owner on Friday. Ordered yesterday around lunch time by call in for $399 each. And is scheduled for delivery tomorrow. Thanks Vanns for fast shipping so I could set up and play over the weekend. Thanks to all RC owners here provide many of good information here. I'm sure I will be a happy RC owner too even order them without any audition.

Congrats to you on your rc-70's, nice price how did you get them to take 399 each? Those arent on sale anymore at that price. Good job
post #39030 of 51452
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

12" sub... but only a 14" cube enclosure.... and a 75 watt (continuous) amp POWER rating.... and a -3dB spec of 35Hz!!

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Originally Posted by kgallerie View Post

35 hz from a 12" sub is crappy......the S10.3 goes down to 21hz.....i dont get it.

That's insane.

I mean, the ESW-C8 has about the same specs (80W RMS, 36Hz cut-off). How the hell did they manage to not beat this in a 14" enclosure with a 12" driver ???

Ok size is not everything (my SVS SB12-NSD has the exact same size -- a cube 14" on a side, 12" woofer, but it's sealed, not ported) and that amp is severely lacking (my SVS has a 400W RMS amp) but still, the amp has nothing to do with extension per se.

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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

and the POWER TEN sub is here:
http://www.energy-speakers.com/subwoofers/?sku=1013559

-3dB spec of 45Hz!!!

it weights FIFTEEN POUNDS and has a 50 watt amp rating!! 100 watts peak!

What the hell is this? With which Energy speakers are you supposed to use this? The Takes?
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