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post #39031 of 47720
4/26/12 at 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by xftman View Post

Will be a proud RC-70 owner on Friday. Ordered yesterday around lunch time by call in for $399 each. And is scheduled for delivery tomorrow. Thanks Vanns for fast shipping so I could set up and play over the weekend. Thanks to all RC owners here provide many of good information here. I'm sure I will be a happy RC owner too even order them without any audition.

Congrats to you on your rc-70's, nice price how did you get them to take 399 each? Those arent on sale anymore at that price. Good job
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post #39032 of 47720
4/26/12 at 12:25pm
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

12" sub... but only a 14" cube enclosure.... and a 75 watt (continuous) amp POWER rating.... and a -3dB spec of 35Hz!!

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Originally Posted by kgallerie View Post

35 hz from a 12" sub is crappy......the S10.3 goes down to 21hz.....i dont get it.

That's insane.

I mean, the ESW-C8 has about the same specs (80W RMS, 36Hz cut-off). How the hell did they manage to not beat this in a 14" enclosure with a 12" driver ???

Ok size is not everything (my SVS SB12-NSD has the exact same size -- a cube 14" on a side, 12" woofer, but it's sealed, not ported) and that amp is severely lacking (my SVS has a 400W RMS amp) but still, the amp has nothing to do with extension per se.

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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

and the POWER TEN sub is here:
http://www.energy-speakers.com/subwoofers/?sku=1013559

-3dB spec of 45Hz!!!

it weights FIFTEEN POUNDS and has a 50 watt amp rating!! 100 watts peak!

What the hell is this? With which Energy speakers are you supposed to use this? The Takes?
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post #39033 of 47720
4/26/12 at 12:34pm
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Originally Posted by Hank Mardukous View Post

I can relate, and I did just that with the current RC line. I bought all of the quality speakers that I could possibly need, when I found them at fire sale prices. I can't see myself sticking around Energy with the new products that they are coming out with. I don't think I'll ever switch brands and buy new speakers from another company, unless of course my current speakers get damaged or something along those lines. Even their member emails and stuff are starting to bother me, it just isn't for me.

I know what you mean about their e-mails and Facebook and all. They posted a picture of the RC Micro and said it was a Take Classic satellite and then when they got called out on it they once again said it was a Take Classic. THEN they said, 'oops we looked on the bottom of the wrong speaker"..... Not quite sure they're the smartest group either, at least about their own products
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post #39034 of 47720
4/26/12 at 3:28pm
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

new Energy product coming soon, posted on Energy's FB page:
http://www.energy-speakers.com/comin...u=POWER-SUB-12

the POWER 12 sub..... it gives you POWER.... POWER!!!!

12" sub... but only a 14" cube enclosure.... and a 75 watt (continuous) amp POWER rating.... and a -3dB spec of 35Hz!!

SO MUCH POWER IT STARTS ROLLING OFF AT 40HZ BABY!!!!

Hard to believe that they would even bother.......good for computer maybe
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post #39035 of 47720
4/26/12 at 4:00pm
Picked up a new pair of RC10's. I am really liking the speakers already.

I mainly will listen to music and not very much for movies. I listen to a wide range of music. (Norah Jones to Metallica). My room size is 14 x 12.

Would it be reasonable to use the speakers without a sub? The speakers are rated down to 50hz, so they should go low enough for almost all of the music I listen to.

If possible, I would prefer not to use a sub, but I will if it is going to jeopardize the quality of sound too much.
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post #39036 of 47720
4/26/12 at 4:03pm
the RC-10s sound good w/o a sub but will do better with one.

What speakers did you have before to compare the RC-10s with?
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post #39037 of 47720
4/26/12 at 4:17pm
in a 12x14 room with mostly music they will do just fine without a sub, but a sub will definitely make them sound better. You can get a little compact sub to supplement the low end if you feel you want more presence/impact.

the important thing though is are YOU satisfied? if it sounds great to you right now then roll with it.
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post #39038 of 47720
4/26/12 at 4:34pm
I was using a Take Classic system.
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post #39039 of 47720
4/26/12 at 4:42pm
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

new Energy product coming soon, posted on Energy's FB page:
http://www.energy-speakers.com/comin...u=POWER-SUB-12

the POWER 12 sub..... it gives you POWER.... POWER!!!!

12" sub... but only a 14" cube enclosure.... and a 75 watt (continuous) amp POWER rating.... and a -3dB spec of 35Hz!!

SO MUCH POWER IT STARTS ROLLING OFF AT 40HZ BABY!!!!

Wow. My MA sub in a 14" cube takes a 500 RMS (1000 peak) watt amp!! Smaller enclosure requires more power...


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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

Only thing I can say is thats just unreal man. In the bathroom. LOL

Well, how many shower radios are out there? I would rather listen to quality, and my OWN choice of music (not the radio).



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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

What the hell is this? With which Energy speakers are you supposed to use this? The Takes?

Easy man! I have Takes !! The FPS style.
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post #39040 of 47720
4/27/12 at 4:05am
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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

Only thing I got to say tonight is this crap is addicting.

My question is Am I Alone Here or have I found a whole mess of other crazy insane people???

You're in the right place if your looking for company. My family and office mates think I'm nuts and wonder why I keep saying things like - do you know anyone who needs a really good budget 5.1 system... there's one on sale on newegg today!

I have a pile of speakers still in boxes waiting to go into the basement when we refinish it later this year, and I've collected a list of speakers to replace some of my HTIB speakers in the bedroom, plus, yes, i want to put a speaker (or 2?) in the bathroom when that's refinished. And I need a sub. Or 3 apparently. Ok, I have one now, but it's still in the box, I don't have a place for it at the moment.

Sigh/grin.
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post #39041 of 47720
4/27/12 at 4:20am
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Originally Posted by CalgaryCowboy View Post

I think the point of speakers in Room that we don't use much is interesting...but how about us that squirel away speakers for "future use" or "testing"?

I'll start
2 V minis
1 ESW V8
2 old sony towers

I had more before I discovered Kijiji and sold some and bought others.

Unused at the moment:
3 Energy Veritas speakers, 1 RC, 2 Mirage speakers for the basement when the HT/rec room gets built. Wait a sec, the VSW sub will go upstairs in the den, and I'll be getting an HSU for down there.
1 extra Mirage (in ceiling)
2 giant towers, unknown mfr picked up off a curb on garbage day (verified to "work") originally intended for the basement at some point
2 klipsch towers formerly from the den fronts (now where I have some RC-70s), intended for the living room when I get a receiver that can power 2 zones.
2 30 yr old bookshelf speakers with awesome sound, formerly in the den, will probably go back to the den when the HT/rec room goes in, (RCs will go down there)
1 extra Denon HTIB speaker
A few computer speakers
A few car speakers

-Afflicted
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post #39042 of 47720
4/27/12 at 6:40am
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

the two V-minis and the V8 sub would be a dynamite little 2.1 setup for an office or bedroom.

I can attest to that, I use this set up (RC-Mini's + V8) in even a larger room, for occasional music sessions. It really shines, especially when turned up a bit.
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post #39043 of 47720
4/27/12 at 10:28am
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Originally Posted by caper_1 View Post

Easy man! I have Takes !! The FPS style.

I was not dissing the Takes. My point is that this sub (I was specifically talking about the Power Ten with its -3dB point at 45 Hz and roll-off begining at what, 50 Hz?) is more or less useless with any other Energy speakers -- except maybe the CB-5 / CC-5. And somehow I don't think those new subs will be dirt cheap either.
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post #39044 of 47720
4/27/12 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by Dan__ View Post

2 giant towers, unknown mfr picked up off a curb on garbage day (verified to "work") originally intended for the basement at some point

OK....you definitely win with that one...LOL!
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post #39045 of 47720
4/27/12 at 2:33pm
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Originally Posted by Dan__ View Post

Unused at the moment:
3 Energy Veritas speakers, 1 RC, 2 Mirage speakers for the basement when the HT/rec room gets built. Wait a sec, the VSW sub will go upstairs in the den, and I'll be getting an HSU for down there.
1 extra Mirage (in ceiling)
2 giant towers, unknown mfr picked up off a curb on garbage day (verified to "work") originally intended for the basement at some point
2 klipsch towers formerly from the den fronts (now where I have some RC-70s), intended for the living room when I get a receiver that can power 2 zones.
2 30 yr old bookshelf speakers with awesome sound, formerly in the den, will probably go back to the den when the HT/rec room goes in, (RCs will go down there)
1 extra Denon HTIB speaker
A few computer speakers
A few car speakers

-Afflicted

The collector, hey I can send you more stuff if you have room. LOL
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post #39046 of 47720
4/28/12 at 7:25am
It is amazing to me that a guy has a full set of Energy speakers in Cherry for sale on Ebay... pair of RC-70s, RC-LCR and pair of RC-10s. But yet doesn't bother to include what should be multiple photos of them and their finish on the listing! Even worse, he throws a link to a bad video from someone else featuring his black ash version of the speakers... Bizarre! Gee, nice job selling your now very hard to find set of RC's!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Refer...item27c627b5df
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post #39047 of 47720
4/28/12 at 7:31am
Damn! It is a good thing this listing is no longer available! I would have been seriously tempted to install these in my theater room.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...vip=true&rt=nc
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post #39048 of 47720
4/28/12 at 10:06am
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Originally Posted by deano86 View Post

Even worse, he throws a link to a bad video from someone else featuring his black ash version of the speakers...

LOL! That video is just wrong on so many levels. The sub takes the cake for me though.
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post #39049 of 47720
4/28/12 at 1:16pm
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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

Only thing I got to say tonight is this crap is addicting. At least with video one can clearly state how many televisions does one need.And if you have 2 you can rationalize that since yes its nice to have one in the living room and another somewhere else in the house, like a theatre room that gets used more than just a weekend movie. But with these dam speakers you find yourself finding all kinds of places to put these, which leads to all kinds of off the wall rationalizing why one needs them there. I even read about a guy here that put enegry's in the dam bathroom. This is insane. It also doesnt help matters when you know and heard about a great speaker line like the RC that as of last summer was not in production anymore so you buy a nice setup that thanks to Vanns was great for the cheap blow out sales last summer thinking great I finally have a good home theatre set up that can double for music listening as well. I mean you can only listen the the famouse Pioneer HPM 100's so long before your chest hurts from the concussion it gives from the 12 inch woofers inside those monsters. (By the way I still love listening to those). Totally happy with my new set up last summer I move on to other pressing matters around the house. Then out of nowhere Vnns shows up with these so called discountinued RC line and you start reading the wow factores about them. 2 thoughts start going through my mind 1 is you better crab a few of these and make sure you get the biggest ones they make so somewhere down the line you dont wish you had and you dont end up wanting and wishing you could upgrade. 2nd thing now all of a sudden my prize CF70 lineup doesnt sound so good anymore and your trying to figure out what the hell to do with these things so you dont feel like you wasted a bunch of money for nothing. Was going to put them in the living room but I bought a cheap set of ps51's and the matching center for television watching. Hey they suck for music but are good for the television mode. I wouldnt blend those in another system it would be horrible for music so now I am wondering what I really should do with this whole cf & cc line. If your like me and I am sure there are a few of you around that are anal enough to not like the idea of unmatched speakers even if they are from the same company. So yes I am a little in debt over the 4 rc-70 towers rclcr and a new sub. Yes its overkill but it all matches, thankl GOD I got all black speakers again, wife wouldnt know the difference this way.
I know somewhere down the line when these are not around anymore I will be thanking myself for this crazy indulgence but at the moment its a bit insane. I did the same thing when I bought my 2 Kuro plasma and also did the same thing with recievers knowing products today are usually not as good as products produced in the past at least its that way with video and wouldnt be suprised if its the same for audio, it is with recievers I know that much. Its like I am preparing myself for the end of what we used to know was good audio and video.

My question is Am I Alone Here or have I found a whole mess of other crazy insane people???

Now you know why my family calls me "crazy man",always looking for the best value,product,price,etc.We can't help it.
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post #39050 of 47720
4/29/12 at 8:08am
Well, I guess he put them back up again!(albeit with a $100 higher Buy it Now) Wow, what a temptation... the only reason I am really holding back is I just recently finished all of my acoustic panels/broadband bass traps in the front of the room around my screen. I guess they could be relocated Dang.....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Verit...item4d00b42e56
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post #39051 of 47720
4/29/12 at 9:08am
Florence and the Machine Unplugged just came on the Palladium channel. Sounds amazing on the Energy RC setup!
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post #39052 of 47720
4/29/12 at 9:58am
Really set on replacing my Klipsch Synergy 3.5 and DCM KX Center fromt/center with Energy towers. I can get the C series for nearly a song. (CF70@199). Really want the Veratis series (6.3), but for the life of me cannot fathom the fact they are over 2x price of the RC70's.

The centers, for what ever reason are ALL within 100 of each other (CC10, LCR, and V5.2). My goal is to get matching front/centers as I listen to alot of multichannel SACD's and DVDA's.

It seems to me that both the C series mains and center complement each other with the mid and tweeter configuration as well as the veratis. The RC70 and the LCR seems not quite a match with the "angled" tweeter and midrange.


Any thoughts on this would be great Thanks.
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post #39053 of 47720
4/29/12 at 12:25pm
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Originally Posted by jfbar1 View Post

It seems to me that both the C series mains and center complement each other with the mid and tweeter configuration as well as the veratis. The RC70 and the LCR seems not quite a match with the "angled" tweeter and midrange.

The only configurations better matched than the RC-70s and RC-LCR would be 3 RC-70s or 3 RC-LCR They are pretty well matched, and the LCR is the center intended to be used with the 70s.
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post #39054 of 47720
4/29/12 at 12:47pm
Thanks for the feedback. Anyone here taking advantage of the deals on the CF series?? I heard them in Magnolia and (coming from the Klipsch) seems like a good value for my needs. Using a Sony TAP9000ES/TAN9000ES analog combo with BOTH a Sony C222ES and an OPPO BD83
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post #39055 of 47720
4/29/12 at 3:35pm
ESW-8 vs S10.3

I recently purchased a pair of RC10's to upgrade from my Take Classic system. I am currently using the ESW-8 sub from the Take classic system.

I see there are some really good prices on the S10.3 sub. Would I notice a big difference if I switched to the S10.3? Or should I just hold off until I can buy a better sub, such as HSU?

I am listening to 80% music and 20% movies.

Also, for my center speaker, I will eventually get the LCR. In the meantime, should I keep using the Take classic center or go without a center and use the 2 RC10's?
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post #39056 of 47720
4/29/12 at 3:37pm
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Originally Posted by brianr34 View Post

ESW-8 vs S10.3

I recently purchased a pair of RC10's to upgrade from my Take Classic system. I am currently using the ESW-8 sub from the Take classic system.

I see there are some really good prices on the S10.3 sub. Would I notice a big difference if I switched to the S10.3?

I am listening to 80% music and 20% movies.

Also, for my center speaker, I will eventually get the LCR. In the meantime, should I keep using the Take classic center or go without a center and use the 2 RC10's?

Um, heck yeah. Huge difference. The power of the amp and the build quality alone will present a huge difference.
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post #39057 of 47720
4/29/12 at 4:30pm
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Originally Posted by brianr34 View Post

ESW-8 vs S10.3

I recently purchased a pair of RC10's to upgrade from my Take Classic system. I am currently using the ESW-8 sub from the Take classic system.

I see there are some really good prices on the S10.3 sub. Would I notice a big difference if I switched to the S10.3? Or should I just hold off until I can buy a better sub, such as HSU?

I am listening to 80% music and 20% movies.

Also, for my center speaker, I will eventually get the LCR. In the meantime, should I keep using the Take classic center or go without a center and use the 2 RC10's?

Just to reiterate what macstatic said, it will be a big difference. My brother happened to do practically the same thing (started with the take classics and now has the rc10s and an rc lcr with the s10.3) and it is a big difference. I heard and felt things in his setup that I didn't hear before.

I recently got a Hsu vtf-15H and it is an amazing piece of equipment. If you gotta have a sub now, the s10.3 is a great deal, but if you have the patience to save up and get a hsu (or another id sub), you won't be disappointed...and get the lcr quick cuz that is awesome too, that also has good prices on vanns, at least last time I looked.
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post #39058 of 47720
4/29/12 at 5:19pm
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post


Yep. If you want improvement for HT usage, you would get a huge improvement out of upgrading the sub to the HSU VTF-3 MK4. The difference would be V E R Y noticeable

For what its worth, you were right. I went ahead and got a vtf-15H and added two cb10s for front heights. The difference is incredible factoring in the added speakers and the sub. Thanks again to all for your suggestions and information.
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post #39059 of 47720
4/30/12 at 4:39am
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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

The collector, hey I can send you more stuff if you have room. LOL

I can probably use whatever in the garage...
Just gotta figure out how to drive em.
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post #39060 of 47720
4/30/12 at 4:47am
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Originally Posted by jfbar1 View Post

Thanks for the feedback. Anyone here taking advantage of the deals on the CF series?? I heard them in Magnolia and (coming from the Klipsch) seems like a good value for my needs. Using a Sony TAP9000ES/TAN9000ES analog combo with BOTH a Sony C222ES and an OPPO BD83

I heard the CFs (i think 70s) when I was auditioning the RCs. I listened to a wide variety of music on them at near reference levels in the store. They were well driven and in a good room, and I loved them. I nearly considered getting those, but there were good deals available at the time on the RC line from Vanns, and I figured "why not".
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