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post #39061 of 47745
4/30/12 at 5:03am
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Originally Posted by Dan__ View Post

I can probably use whatever in the garage...
Just gotta figure out how to drive em.

Just pick up a cheap amp from a yard/garage sale or kijiji/CL. If it isn't critical listening or insane volume levels, that would do the trick. Then use a laptop as a source. That is what I do.
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post #39062 of 47745
4/30/12 at 2:29pm
ahhhhh having some trouble with some pretty basic stuff.

has anybody mounted their take classic satellites using monoprice mounts? specifically these- http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

I don't even know where to begin. I think i'm going to mount them to the ceiling with the extender and have them swivel and point towards the main listening position. anyone know where to begin?
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post #39063 of 47745
4/30/12 at 2:31pm
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Originally Posted by nuttybardude View Post

ahhhhh having some trouble with some pretty basic stuff.

has anybody mounted their take classic satellites using monoprice mounts? specifically these- http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

I don't even know where to begin. I think i'm going to mount them to the ceiling with the extender and have them swivel and point towards the main listening position. anyone know where to begin?

I dont have classics, but I do have the Take LCR mounted with those. I ised a combination of the 'universal' hardware that came with the mounts in combination with what came with the speaker to make them work. Ceiling mounted...
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post #39064 of 47745
4/30/12 at 3:16pm
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Originally Posted by nuttybardude View Post

ahhhhh having some trouble with some pretty basic stuff.

has anybody mounted their take classic satellites using monoprice mounts? specifically these- http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

I don't even know where to begin. I think i'm going to mount them to the ceiling with the extender and have them swivel and point towards the main listening position. anyone know where to begin?

Just use the hardware that came with the mount. I used a couple of them on take classics. Just make sure to anchor them well to the drywall, one of my take classic satellites is pulling one of the mount somewhat out of the drywall.
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post #39065 of 47745
4/30/12 at 3:28pm
I am new to energy speakers. I currently bought energy RC micro system and using it as my 5.1 setup. I was wondering if adding energy Veritas Mini blend well with this system?

I suppose I have to upgrade the front and left and center speakers using the Veritas Mini series.

However, I cannot find much review on these speakers. How good would they work with my RC setup?
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post #39066 of 47745
4/30/12 at 3:49pm
the V-Mini's will be much better, they are significantly larger and will play deeper, louder and cleaner. They should blend fine, but if you go this route upgrade all three front speakers (l/c/r) with V-Mini's and move the RC-Micros to surrounds/heights. Then sell the extra center on ebay or stash it in the closet for safekeeping
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post #39067 of 47745
4/30/12 at 6:41pm
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Your surrounds don't have to be the same brand as your front three. It would be nice if they could though.

If you're just looking for bipole speakers maybe check a couple of these brands out. I've never heard any of them, just did a quick search.

http://www.amazon.ca/Streem-SR-490-B...115612&sr=8-18

http://www.amazon.ca/Fluance-AVBP2-S...115699&sr=8-28

Or get CR-10s which are at least Energy speakers and are bipole/dipole switchable. $340/pr isn't bad.
http://www.amazon.ca/Connoisseur-Ser...115867&sr=8-51

If you're close to the border then have the Veritas surrounds shipped there and then drive across and pick them up. There are several border cities in the US which will let you ship to them.
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search
https://www.kinek.com/kpointC/Landin...on?page=border

I ended up using Kinek. Went to the states last weekend. Got 2 Veritas V-S for 399$. They are currently 1200$ a pair at FS here in Canada. Thanks a lot for all the advices, I am very happy with them. They add quite a dimension to the home theater experience !
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post #39068 of 47745
4/30/12 at 6:44pm
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Originally Posted by N3okiller View Post

I ended up using Kinek. Went to the states last weekend. Got 2 Veritas V-S for 399$. They are currently 1200$ for a pair at FS here in Canada. Thanks a lot for all the advices, I am very happy with them. They add quite a dimension to the home theater experience !

Thanks for the feedback and glad that all went well using the Kinek point. I have yet to hear about any trouble related to using Kinek points. Sometimes, factoring the cost of the trip to the Kinek point, one wonders if it's worth it. But when you save $800 like you just did, it's a no brainer...
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post #39069 of 47745
4/30/12 at 8:32pm
Is there a preference when it comes to speaker wire that most agree on. For instance 100% copper compared to a copper mix. Is stranded wire still good to use? The minimum guage wire people are using with their energy speakers.

Thanks.
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post #39070 of 47745
4/30/12 at 8:39pm
I used 14ga with all my speakers. Should be enough unless you have really long runs to your speakers.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

The in wall CL2 rated wire is cool because they have red and black colored wire.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
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post #39071 of 47745
4/30/12 at 8:44pm
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Originally Posted by GiTcHaSuM View Post

For what its worth, you were right. I went ahead and got a vtf-15H and added two cb10s for front heights. The difference is incredible factoring in the added speakers and the sub. Thanks again to all for your suggestions and information.

It was a leap of faith, wasn't it? All the ID sub owners say, "Get one. They are amazing." Hard to believe. I know I didn't believe it

Be sure to try a few of the four to five star movies in this list: The New Master List of BASS in Movies with Frequency Charts.
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post #39072 of 47745
4/30/12 at 8:46pm
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

I used 14ga with all my speakers. Should be enough unless you have really long runs to your speakers.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

The in wall CL2 rated wire is cool because they have red and black colored wire.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

Thanks afrogt,How do you feel about 100% copper comapred to a copper mix for wiring?
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post #39073 of 47745
4/30/12 at 9:03pm
There is no difference. The true consensus with speaker wire is that it's all the same. The only consideration is to make sure you have sufficient gauge for the length you are running. And if you're running it in the wall get the CL2 rated stuff. Other than that it's just cosmetics.
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post #39074 of 47745
4/30/12 at 9:14pm
Thanks batpig
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post #39075 of 47745
4/30/12 at 11:33pm
Hi all, I'm new to the HT scene! I just recently purchased the Energy Take Classic 5.0 and a set of HSU STF-2 to pair with it.

I am currently looking at the Marantz NR1402, and might just pay a little more for the NR1602 for the network features. The reason for going with Marantz is because my TV console cabinet is only a little more than 4.5 inches in height.

Coming from headphones I like my sound a little more to the cold and analytic side, but not too extreme. I would be using this setup for movies, music, and gaming. Would the Marantz be good in this setup? Would you guys recommend something else? I figure if I can get something with a lot more value or much better sound at this price range I could probably live with having the AVR on the console rather than in it.

Thanks!
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post #39076 of 47745
5/1/12 at 6:42am
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Originally Posted by baron2 View Post

Is there a preference when it comes to speaker wire that most agree on. For instance 100% copper compared to a copper mix. Is stranded wire still good to use? The minimum guage wire people are using with their energy speakers.

Thanks.

Here's an article that gets cited quite frequently in these forums:

http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm

More than you'll ever want to know about speaker wire. If you scroll down a bit, there is a chart indicating guage for length of run. I also use the 14 awg from monoprice, except for a 50+ ft. run I have for secondary zone speakers where I use 12 awg.
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post #39077 of 47745
5/1/12 at 8:45am
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Originally Posted by Nisaus View Post

Hi all, I'm new to the HT scene! I just recently purchased the Energy Take Classic 5.0 and a set of HSU STF-2 to pair with it.

I am currently looking at the Marantz NR1402, and might just pay a little more for the NR1602 for the network features. The reason for going with Marantz is because my TV console cabinet is only a little more than 4.5 inches in height.

Coming from headphones I like my sound a little more to the cold and analytic side, but not too extreme. I would be using this setup for movies, music, and gaming. Would the Marantz be good in this setup? Would you guys recommend something else? I figure if I can get something with a lot more value or much better sound at this price range I could probably live with having the AVR on the console rather than in it.

Thanks!

The NR1602 is a full featured AVR, fairly well reviewed. Marantz's parent Co is the same as Denon, which is a fav on the Energy board. A lot of shared tech. I doubt you would go wrong. I would say however that your choice of Subs and Receiver far outpaces you speakers. Takes are fine entry level speakers, but won't do justice to your other equipment. Fortunately you probably only have $150 into them when you get upgradeitis.
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post #39078 of 47745
5/1/12 at 1:59pm
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Originally Posted by jfbar1 View Post

Really set on replacing my Klipsch Synergy 3.5 and DCM KX Center fromt/center with Energy towers. I can get the C series for nearly a song. (CF70@199). Really want the Veratis series (6.3), but for the life of me cannot fathom the fact they are over 2x price of the RC70's.

The centers, for what ever reason are ALL within 100 of each other (CC10, LCR, and V5.2). My goal is to get matching front/centers as I listen to alot of multichannel SACD's and DVDA's.

It seems to me that both the C series mains and center complement each other with the mid and tweeter configuration as well as the veratis. The RC70 and the LCR seems not quite a match with the "angled" tweeter and midrange.


Any thoughts on this would be great Thanks.

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Originally Posted by jfbar1 View Post

Thanks for the feedback. Anyone here taking advantage of the deals on the CF series?? I heard them in Magnolia and (coming from the Klipsch) seems like a good value for my needs. Using a Sony TAP9000ES/TAN9000ES analog combo with BOTH a Sony C222ES and an OPPO BD83

I'm not sure what you mean by an angled tweeter. The centre RC-LCR channel matches the RC-70s very well, I can't hear a problem with it at all.

If you have heard the CF-70s and like them a lot, you should probably buy them, since you are happy with the price. If you do buy the CFs, then don't bother reading anymore of this thread, because you will most likely have some desire to buy the RCs. Many people have started off with buying the C series speakers and then end up buying the RCs at some point, usually fairly soon after purchasing the Cs. It just seems like wasted money for the majority of people that buy both model lines. Everybody that I know about that buys the RCs, ends up keeping them in use, instead of the Cs, and I don't think it has ever gone the opposite way (where the Cs were preferred over the RCs). Some people say that the Cs are better for home theatre, but even that recommendation seems to be for small doses of listening periods.
The Klipsch sound may be brighter than the RCs, and I am careful when speaking about Klipsch because some of their speakers have really impressed me, while some of them I find intolerable. I am not sure what you are use to.

All being said, if music is what you really like, I would recommend the RCs all day long.
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post #39079 of 47745
5/1/12 at 2:09pm
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Originally Posted by brianr34 View Post

ESW-8 vs S10.3

I recently purchased a pair of RC10's to upgrade from my Take Classic system. I am currently using the ESW-8 sub from the Take classic system.

I see there are some really good prices on the S10.3 sub. Would I notice a big difference if I switched to the S10.3? Or should I just hold off until I can buy a better sub, such as HSU?

I am listening to 80% music and 20% movies.

Also, for my center speaker, I will eventually get the LCR. In the meantime, should I keep using the Take classic center or go without a center and use the 2 RC10's?

There is simply no comparison between those subs. None at all.

You should play around and see if you like no centre channel over having that Take centre channel. You might find using it sounds better, or maybe not. Let us know what you find, because this is probably a question that many people have. I found that the Take centre was the weakest speaker of all of the Take satelites. It will distort and even blow up before any of the other speakers would. The matching RC-LCR should definitely be on your list for when you find it available on sale.
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post #39080 of 47745
5/1/12 at 3:06pm
Sittin in the sweet spot sandwitch between 4 RC-70's listening to Rocky Mountain Way and Funk # 49.

Dam thats pretty Nice

Just wanted to edit my post and thank all of you for stearing me in the right direction. No matter what size rc line we all have they are a few steps above the new c series and worth the money. Funny though the rc line is cheaper than the new c series, that doesnt make any sence.
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post #39081 of 47745
5/1/12 at 3:07pm
If anyone is interested in c series bookshelf setup......I'd rather sell to someone here first. I need to move these to make room for the RC-10's and LCR. Someone earlier mentioned the trend for those who bought the c series and kept visiting this forum. Consider me a victim of that....

http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/ele/2975843930.html

Brad
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post #39082 of 47745
5/1/12 at 3:21pm
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Originally Posted by Hank Mardukous View Post

I'm not sure what you mean by an angled tweeter. The centre RC-LCR channel matches the RC-70s very well, I can't hear a problem with it at all.

If you have heard the CF-70s and like them a lot, you should probably buy them, since you are happy with the price. If you do buy the CFs, then don't bother reading anymore of this thread, because you will most likely have some desire to buy the RCs. Many people have started off with buying the C series speakers and then end up buying the RCs at some point, usually fairly soon after purchasing the Cs. It just seems like wasted money for the majority of people that buy both model lines. Everybody that I know about that buys the RCs, ends up keeping them in use, instead of the Cs, and I don't think it has ever gone the opposite way (where the Cs were preferred over the RCs). Some people say that the Cs are better for home theatre, but even that recommendation seems to be for small doses of listening periods.
The Klipsch sound may be brighter than the RCs, and I am careful when speaking about Klipsch because some of their speakers have really impressed me, while some of them I find intolerable. I am not sure what you are use to.

All being said, if music is what you really like, I would recommend the RCs all day long.

Have to agree 100% with Hank on this bought the cf-70 towers and cc-10 center and eswc sub last summer, now I have RC towers and center. Its not that the cf-70's are bad they just arent as good as the rc line. No need to look back will have to find a place for the cf line or sell cheap.
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post #39083 of 47745
5/2/12 at 9:56am
I have a question, do any of you see any potential problems with posting manuals and brochures on AVS? I have contacted AVS to ask them if it is allowed, before I put any up, but I haven't got a response yet. I am thinking of making another thread for this with a link, or maybe posting them here as well, but I am not sure if this is allowed or even legal. Some of these manuals and specs could be very useful to members here, and I would like to make them easily available to everyone.
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post #39084 of 47745
5/2/12 at 10:13am
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Originally Posted by Hank Mardukous View Post

I have a question, do any of you see any potential problems with posting manuals and brochures on AVS? I have contacted AVS to ask them if it is allowed, before I put any up, but I haven't got a response yet. I am thinking of making another thread for this with a link, or maybe posting them here as well, but I am not sure if this is allowed or even legal. Some of these manuals and specs could be very useful to members here, and I would like to make them easily available to everyone.

I have many of the energy specs in a spreadsheet linked in my sig.
If people have PDF's of manuals I would be interested.

If it is deemed allowed, I would be glad to help in any way possible. We could host the PDFs in a public folder on Google Drive or Dropbox or something similar so it will be there for the reference of forum members.
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post #39085 of 47745
5/2/12 at 10:20am
I am happy to create a page on batpigworld.com to host them. I dug through my files and I was able to find about 9-10 of them, but if we could get a pretty extensive collection going that would be a good resource.

Frankly, I've long considered adding a Energy speaker page to my website to collect all the information we have gathered on older models as a centralized resource. Unfortunately increasing workload at the day job plus the little batpiglet have sucked up most of free time and energy lately!

FYI - Energy finally responded to my question on their FB page and indicated that "they are working on a solution" to get the manuals/brochures back up.
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post #39086 of 47745
5/2/12 at 10:43am
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

I am happy to create a page on batpigworld.com to host them. I dug through my files and I was able to find about 9-10 of them, but if we could get a pretty extensive collection going that would be a good resource.

But that would be copyright infringement without Audiovox's permission. Probably better not to host them on your personal website, but link to them on some other free file hosting service. Just in case Audiovox decided to be a pain about it later on.
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post #39087 of 47745
5/2/12 at 10:53am
hmmmm, my best friend of 15+ years is an IP lawyer, time to give him a shout and check my potential exposure
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post #39088 of 47745
5/2/12 at 12:02pm
It would be great info to have on hand. I am for it Hank
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post #39089 of 47745
5/2/12 at 12:41pm
not infringement if you are not selling them, no?
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post #39090 of 47745
5/2/12 at 12:45pm
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Originally Posted by caper_1 View Post

not infringement if you are not selling them, no?

That, and you're not altering them. Plus, the manuals are actually a form of marketing. Why would they have an issue with you helping market their product? I can't believe they would.
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