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post #39241 of 51515
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Originally Posted by moorewapyunco View Post

Does anyone have any experience with the sound of the CF line they can share? or is the general consensus "Get the RC"?

CF line is much brighter sounding that the RC line. And yes the general consensus is to get the RC because they are built better, use better drivers, handle high volumes better and sound better.

While you can get the CF towers on sale (particularly the CF-70) for less than the RC towers, the CC center and CB bookshelf speakers cost more right now than their corresponding RC center and bookshelf brethren. So its even more of a no brainer to get the RC.

The RC's are clearly the better all around speakers.
post #39242 of 51515
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Originally Posted by moorewapyunco View Post

Does anyone have any experience with the sound of the CF line they can share? or is the general consensus "Get the RC"?

I had the CF-70, CF-30, CC-10 and CR-10 that are all from that line. Even when I had a 7.1 system with that line, I purchased a pair of RC-10 bookshelf speakers to "test the hype" and loved the sound difference right out of the box. Ended up keeping the nipple/dipole CR-10 but sold the rest and bought an RC-LCR and RC-50s.

I'm careful not to push people too hard towards the RC line for a few reasons. First off some people do prefer the CF over RC. Secondly because he RC speakers do any pushing for you If you skipped the CF step and went straight for RCs I doubt you'd be disappointed.

If you listen to ANY music at all, possibly best to just avoid the CF speakers.
post #39243 of 51515
Macstatic:

You've GOT to tell me where I can get those nipple/dipole CR-10's! I would LOVE to have a pair of those hanging in my bedroom!
post #39244 of 51515
I wonder if he uses the dipole mode at all with these.
post #39245 of 51515
I love that autocorrect makes "bipole" into "nipple"
post #39246 of 51515
I don't think I could ever stop fiddling with the knobs or adjusting the placement!
post #39247 of 51515
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

How far is Ottawa from one of the Kinek points. That speaker is only $299 at Vanns in either color. Might be cheaper to make the drive if you ship it to a Kinek locale.

https://www.kinek.com/

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...res/548357854/

I live in Ottawa. It took me 45 minutes to get to the border then 10 minutes to get to the Kinek. Overall, in 1h15 minutes I was out of the kinek point with my order !
post #39248 of 51515
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Originally Posted by Fears4Ears View Post

Macstatic:

You've GOT to tell me where I can get those nipple/dipole CR-10's! I would LOVE to have a pair of those hanging in my bedroom!

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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

I wonder if he uses the dipole mode at all with these.

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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

I love that autocorrect makes "bipole" into "nipple"

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Originally Posted by Fears4Ears View Post

I don't think I could ever stop fiddling with the knobs or adjusting the placement!

Hahahaha WOW. My iPod must be dirty. The autocorrect feature must not have recognized bipole and replaced it with "nipple". Funny stuff
post #39249 of 51515
Fellow Energy brothers - I confirmed with Vanns that there currently are not any additional orders for the Veritas speakers at vanns. The rep told me that it looks like once they are gone they are gone! He told me there were only 40 VSW10 subs and about 130 v5.1s. I didnt ask him about any others, but im sure they can confirm other quantities.

FYI - I purchased 2 additional 5.1s and a 2nd vsw10 sub (perfect condition open box items to save a few $$) because I dont want to regret it later (I was planning on getting a 2nd vsw10 sub anyway). Vanns confirmed that they would honor any price drops that occur over memorial day weekend, but they wont know what, if any, veritas speakers will go on sale until the day of the sale.

My advice would be to not sleep on these much longer or you may be out of luck. He said they do sell pretty quickly due to the closeout prices...

I wanted to tell you guys so you dont miss out. The prices almost seem too good to be true for such quality speakers, and it sounds like soon they will be.
post #39250 of 51515
Whats happening with Energy!
post #39251 of 51515
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Originally Posted by pokekevin View Post

Whats happening with Energy!

Obviously, when Klipsch took over, they tried their hand at keeping the Energy brand going with their version of the Veritas.....which ultimately ended up being just a brighter version of the recent RC line with upgraded finish. Definitely not deserving of the Veritas name, but a quality speaker nonetheless.

But, now with Audiovox in full control, it appears the end of the Energy name being synonymous with quality speakers may be at hand.... as evidenced with the recent move to the Powerbar and Power series of subwoofer craptacular offerings.
post #39252 of 51515
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Originally Posted by deano86 View Post

Obviously, when Klipsch took over, they tried their hand at keeping the Energy brand going with their version of the Veritas.....which ultimately ended up being just a brighter version of the recent RC line with upgraded finish. Definitely not deserving of the Veritas name, but a quality speaker nonetheless.

But, now with Audiovox in full control, it appears the end of the Energy name being synonymous with quality speakers may be at hand.... as evidenced with the recent move to the Powerbar and Power series of subwoofer craptacular offerings.

Im definitely glad i got mine when i did because these are great for the price imo. I never heard the old veritas line (i "hear" they were great haha), but surprisingly some who have mixed the new veritas with the old seemed quite pleased with the matching and transparency. I believe there were 1 or 2 comments on vanns website itself. Nonetheless, for the value/price, the veritas (and RC) offerings at vanns are great value and should be appreciated while they last. Shortly after they are gone there will be many begging for the opportunity again 8)

To your point, it is unfortunate that the energy name may be disrespected and dragged through the mud from now on and we will be forced to reflect back on "the good ol' days!"
post #39253 of 51515
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Originally Posted by deano86 View Post

...as evidenced with the recent move to the Powerbar and Power series of subwoofer craptacular offerings.

No joke. A 12" sub that only has a 75 watt amp and goes down to 35hZ?... My 8" sub goes lower and has more power than that. The powerbars aren't AS bad, but the fact that they are "new" yet don't have an HDMI port, even the Elite model, is sad.
post #39254 of 51515
Given the changing landscape, I want to get a pair of the Energy VS surrounds since I can't find a pair of the RC-Rs.

I wanted to order from Amazon.com with a Canadian credit card and have the speakers delivered to my friend in the US.

As a test to make sure things would go well, I ordered an HDMI Detective Plus that was in-stock and set my friend's US office as the delivery address. It has been 3 days and the part still hasn't shipped. The part was being sold by Amazon LLC.

Could the delay be due to the fact that I'm using a Canadian credit card and the item is being delivered somewhere else?

I sent them an email but haven't had a reply yet.
post #39255 of 51515
I would say it was the vendor you bought it from. A real test would be to buy something cheap from Vanns.
post #39256 of 51515
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Originally Posted by caper_1 View Post

I would say it was the vendor you bought it from. A real test would be to buy something cheap from Vanns.

If I go through Vanns, can I use a PayPal account that is tied to a Canadian credit card?

The vendor was listed as being Amazon.com LLC.
post #39257 of 51515
Great deal on Ebay for a pair of rosenut V5.1s and a rosenut V5.2C both just a few months old! Original accessories, boxes, etc.
Buy it now for around $440 shipped.... compared to just under $700 for Vanns.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...E:B:SS:US:1123
post #39258 of 51515
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Originally Posted by audit13 View Post

Could the delay be due to the fact that I'm using a Canadian credit card and the item is being delivered somewhere else?

Probably not.

I used a canadian credit card to pay Vann's through Amazon.com and the order was processed the same day, and shipped the day after. Although I used a Kinek point adress, but I don't see how that would change anything on Amazon's side.
post #39259 of 51515
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Originally Posted by audit13 View Post

If I go through Vanns, can I use a PayPal account that is tied to a Canadian credit card?

I don't remember clearly but I think someone tried that and it didn't work. Was it czechmka? Not sure. You can also go through Vann's and pay using Amazon Payments.

Anyway going either way, the order ends up at Vann's directly.
post #39260 of 51515
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

Probably not.

I used a canadian credit card to pay Vann's through Amazon.com and the order was processed the same day, and shipped the day after. Although I used a Kinek point adress, but I don't see how that would change anything on Amazon's side.

That's good to know because they have a couple of Energy VS for $170 each which saves me $30 per speaker; however, I'm worried that the speakers will have physical damage that is noticeable. The speakers are described as "Open box, customer returned unit. Full warranty intact."

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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

I don't remember clearly but I think someone tried that and it didn't work. Was it czechmka? Not sure. You can also go through Vann's and pay using Amazon Payments.

Anyway going either way, the order ends up at Vann's directly.

I'll try Vanns directly before going to Amazon.
post #39261 of 51515
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Originally Posted by audit13 View Post

I'll try Vanns directly before going to Amazon.

If you try to call Vann's directly they won't accept your canadian credit card. You must either order through Amazon.com (which I think does not feature the open box items) or through Vann's website but paying with Amazon Payments. I haven't tried this option but it ought to work.
post #39262 of 51515
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

If you try to call Vann's directly they won't accept your canadian credit card. You must either order through Amazon.com (which I think does not feature the open box items) or through Vann's website but paying with Amazon Payments. I haven't tried this option but it ought to work.

Sorry, I meant to say I'll be trying through Vanns.com. I know calling doesn't work because I tried that when I wanted to buy a pair of Mirage bookshelf speakers.
post #39263 of 51515
Purchases from vanns online clearance center are not in there stores, they are in a warehouse not the store so they dont know what is really wrong with the items.clearance center are in Salt Lake City and in Missoula.when you make a purchase online and return that item,that item is not going back to the vanns store,they send then to that place to be check up and re-sell the item from that warehouse ,vanns cant be 100% sure that the speaker will arrive exactly like the description.but must of the time their descriptions are pretty accurate.
post #39264 of 51515
S10.3 sub on sale again at newegg, $200.
http://www.newegg.com/emailpromo/?cm...email-_-100111
post #39265 of 51515
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

Purchases from vanns online clearance center are not in there stores, they are in a warehouse not the store so they dont know what is really wrong with the items.clearance center are in Salt Lake City and in Missoula.when you make a purchase online and return that item,that item is not going back to the vanns store,they send then to that place to be check up and re-sell the item from that warehouse ,vanns cant be 100% sure that the speaker will arrive exactly like the description.but must of the time their descriptions are pretty accurate.

Thank you for the information.

It doesn't matter now since the pair I wanted sold before I could check out.

I guess I'll wait until tomorrow to see if anything shows up in their clearance centre. If nothing shows up, I'll buy a new pair of VS surrounds.
post #39266 of 51515
I also late for those 2 open boxes too also late for those 2 rosenut v5,1 for $99 each. Need a set to replace my Polk rti4 to match my rc70 and rclcr.
post #39267 of 51515
I have wife approval to replace the Bose Acoustimass speakers with some real speakers! I'll be using these for 80% home theater, 20% for music in a 25x14 ft listening area (8 ft ceilings), driven by a Yamaha Aventage 125W/ch receiver. I'm constrained to use bookshelves for wife approval factor, and rear speakers must fit on 8.5 inch wide section of wall.

I went to a local Magnolia and the Energy CB-20's were my favorite bookshelf. My plan is to use CB-20 for the front, CC-10 for center, and CB-5 for rear surrounds. I'm seeing if I can stretch to get a Hsu VTF2 or VTF3 for the sub.

I'm wondering if there is much difference between the CB-20 and the Veritas V-5.1? I'm not totally comfortable buying a speaker based on reading reviews, and I know that I like how the CB-20 sounds. But I could be convinced if there is universal response that V-5.1's (and V-5.2 center channel for that matter) are a clear step up. I want to keep these speakers for at least 10 years.

Finally, I'm hoping to hear confirmation that I don't need to push for better/bigger rear surrounds than CB-5. I'd rather keep the rears small for wife approval, and save the money for a strong sub.

Thanks!
post #39268 of 51515
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Originally Posted by jlee92 View Post

I have wife approval to replace the Bose Acoustimass speakers with some real speakers! I'll be using these for 80% home theater, 20% for music in a 25x14 ft listening area (8 ft ceilings), driven by a Yamaha Aventage 125W/ch receiver. I'm constrained to use bookshelves for wife approval factor, and rear speakers must fit on 8.5 inch wide section of wall.

I went to a local Magnolia and the Energy CB-20's were my favorite bookshelf. My plan is to use CB-20 for the front, CC-10 for center, and CB-5 for rear surrounds. I'm seeing if I can stretch to get a Hsu VTF2 or VTF3 for the sub.

I'm wondering if there is much difference between the CB-20 and the Veritas V-5.1? I'm not totally comfortable buying a speaker based on reading reviews, and I know that I like how the CB-20 sounds. But I could be convinced if there is universal response that V-5.1's (and V-5.2 center channel for that matter) are a clear step up. I want to keep these speakers for at least 10 years.

Finally, I'm hoping to hear confirmation that I don't need to push for better/bigger rear surrounds than CB-5. I'd rather keep the rears small for wife approval, and save the money for a strong sub.

Thanks!

Hey, if you like what you hear, you can't get much better than that. The V5.1 (or the RC-10) will be a step up build wise, and some may say sound-wise as well. But as you said before, you like the sound of the CB-20, which is brighter than the V5.1 and RC-10. Most people don't have the luxury of hearing them first, so I normally don't recommend the CB/CF speakers, BUT since you heard them and like that kind of sound, I don't see why it wouldn't be good to go for them.

The only thing that would make me uneasy is the fact that the RC-10 and RC-LCR are on sale right now for much cheaper than the CB-20 and CC-10 are. Even the V5.1 and V5.2 can be had for about the same price total. (In this case you'd be saving money as well as actually taking a good step up as far as cabinet and woofer quality go, and you'd have more funds for your subwoofer. Just remember the V5.1 and RC-10 both have a more warm sound rather than bright.)

As far as surrounds, you don't need to get very big at all, and keeping them smaller, as you said, will help keep the wife happy and allow you to switch from the Bose system
post #39269 of 51515
Veritas 5.1 .& 5.2c are much better than the cb-20 and cc-10. Same with RC-10 & RC-LCR.

A little different sound too.
post #39270 of 51515
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Originally Posted by jlee92 View Post

I'm wondering if there is much difference between the CB-20 and the Veritas V-5.1? I'm not totally comfortable buying a speaker based on reading reviews, and I know that I like how the CB-20 sounds. But I could be convinced if there is universal response that V-5.1's (and V-5.2 center channel for that matter) are a clear step up. I want to keep these speakers for at least 10 years.

I haven't heard either myself, so I can't comment on how they sound next to each other. That said, if you check out the MSRPs, you'll get an idea how Energy feels about the difference.

I won't swear to these MSRPs, I quickly plucked them off the interwebs:
CB20 $175/ea (listed as a pair for $350)
V5.1 $429/ea

CC10 $319.95 (?)
V5.2c $849.88

I realize that msrp doesn't always mean a whole lot and how they sound to you personally is the most important. But the quality of speaker you'd be getting with the Veritas line is significantly higher. The fact that they're similarly priced right now, would make it a no-brainer for me.
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