Energy Owners Thread - Page 1323

Hmmmm. Would make a nice set of computer speakers.

No Problem

Just out of curiosity, how do you check the prices with the code?

Nevermind- http://www.vanns.com/shop/promo

Those would be a bit better than computer speakers.

Lol. I was thinking in my head trying to justify buying them. I have more than enough speakers, but at the same time I'm curious about the veritas sound.

Can't get the mobile app to connect, even after the version update. Anybody know how to get the mobile app to run since the site's revision?

Ordering Energy CC-10 Center Channel Speaker today for $240 shipped (new). Good deal and good center? Thanks:)

This will replace my WH 2 center, my current setup below:


(2) rear WH 2 series Wharfedales
(1) WH 2 center
(2) Sound Dynamics RTS-P100 powered speakers (towers)
Marantz SR7001 AV receiver
Velodyne SPL-1500R sub

OMG A pair in Canaduh costs $769+tax. I'm definitely considering getting someone in the US to receive 4 of these V51's and ship them to me it would still be a huge deal even with $400+ in shipping costs.

Wow! Just ordered a pair. Too good a deal to pass up

There are several Kinek points relatively close to Ottawa. Have Vanns ship them there and I doubt it'll cost you $400 to pick them up including gas.
https://www.kinek.com/find-a-kinekpoint-result?borderProvinceId=55

Several AVS Canadians have been using Kinek with very good results.

Well it's not a bad center and the price is somewhat ok for the CC-10. However, most people here will recommend that you keep a center speaker that is matched to your front speakers, so that you get the same timbre across the front soundstage.

However I see that you have Sound Dynamics fronts. You're the first one I see with Sound Dynamics -- they were one of Energy's sister companies back in the day. I have SD-10s myself that I put to surround back duty. I'm not sure if Sound Dynamics ever did center speakers, so you may have to deal with mismatched center and front as long as you keep the SD towers. The question is then, which center would match the RTS-P100 better? I don't know how those sound at all. The CC-10 is rather bright. The Energy RC-LCR is a much higher quality center (full 3-way design) at about the same price ($250) which is a tremendous bargain, but it's much more laid back than the CC-10. Still very clear. If you just don't know which to chose between the two and absolutely want to change your center, the RC-LCR is simply much better --- not that the CC-10 is bad, but at the same price, it cannot compete with the LCR. And I owned both, so this is not only hearsay.

EDIT: looks like the matching center would be the Sound Dynamics RTS-C2 if you can find it.
Edited by neutro - 6/6/12 at 7:48am

Problem is I can only spare 7.25 inches in height, the CC-10 will fit just perfect being 7.1 inches. I was going to get the RC-LCR, but its 7.5 inches in height, to tall by .25 inch

The sensitivity of my Sound Dynamic Towers are 93, the CC-10 is 92. The RC-LCR's sensitivity is 89.
Edited by purplerain - 6/6/12 at 9:02am

Yeah the RC-LCR is rather high. I don't know if your setup is flexible but all I can tell you is that the LCR is *much* better than the CC-10. As far as sensitivity go, you can simply adjust the center channel volume in every modern receiver so that it matches the towers. However even with per-channel EQing, it's hard to not notice the difference between mismatched speakers in the front stage. I don't know much about your WH-2 though. Do you feel it's lacking in some way? If so, which? That may help us advise you on wether purchasing the CC-10 will help.

As I said in my last post (edit) though, you may try to find the center that matches your towers. Probably won't be easy though as Sound Dynamics is no more and it seems they're pretty rare. Searching for Sound Dynamics RTS-C2 on Google show some past activity on CanuckAudioMart and canadian classifieds site Kijiji.ca.

Staying with the CC-10, would be way to much of a problem to get it to fit. Off by .25 inch, but just the way it goes.........

The CC-10 is much better than what I presently have right (WH-2 center)? Thanks

WH-2 center specs:
http://www.hifimart.com/wharfedale-wh-2-centre-speaker-144

This is just an absolutely insane deal imo. I dont know of a speaker that can touch the build and sound quality of this speaker for anywhere near the $120 price tag. AWESOME DEAL!!

Well if you're going to stick with the CC-10 call Vanns and see if you can get better pricing. It was only $170 a week ago. But you must call and speak with a salesperson in order to get a better price.

Before I buy anything from Vanns I call first. It never hurts to ask.

Vanns has the CC-10's for $319 today.

Wow, $170 last week:eek:

I really don't know. All I can tell is that the RC-LCR is on another level from the CC-10. The CC-10 is an ok center, on the brighter side, and it will go lower than your WH-2 80 Hz. Depending on your taste, I'd say the WH-2 looks better with a wood veneer. The CC-10 is black ash everywhere except the front which is glossy black plastic. The CC-10 is the biggest entry-level (Conoisseur series) center speaker from Energy (the others are the much smaller CC-5, and the centers sold with the Take and Take Classic kits).

I honestly am not sure how to EQ it, I am still extremely new to all this. Typically big pockets, but not a lot of time to spend at home to learn my new toys because I work on the road. I just happen to be home right now, which also means my pockets aren't very deep at this time. I was wondering if you guys could describe what a bass null is so I know what I am looking for as I move my sub around. I am guessing it is where you don't get the boom. I noticed that if I put my head down near the front of the sub playing with the gain adjustment I don't hear it very much, but when I sit back in my seat I hear the boom. What I am assuming is the reverb off the walls. Someday I would like to mess with acoustic treatment... I have considered the Epik Empire, as it seems to be well liked. I have run Audysey, and I just looked at the box, my reciever has Audyssey MultEQ XT. When I run the Audyssey by plugging in the mic is it just running the settings for DB adjustment based upon room placement of the speakers, or is it automatically running the EQ also? Or do I have to set that separately?

I use a CC10 along with a pair of CB20s in my front stage setup driven by my Marantz SR7005 AVR. I am more than satisfied with the sound.

Well the low frequencies played by the subwoofers do not behave like the higher ones played by other speakers. Below about 80 Hz, the sound is much less directional, meaning it seems to comes form all around regardless of where the sub actually is. This is because the wavelength associated with those frequencies are then of the same order as typical room dimensions. This also means that the subwoofer produces standing waves (that you can explain as reverberations too) in the room, and that the room shakes at specific resonnant frequencies -- the vibration patterns and associated frequency being called room modes.

All of that combines to give an unequal distribution of intensity for low frequencies across the room. Typically, bass intensity is higher near the walls and corners, and much reduced in the center of the room. Moreover, some frequencies might be very intense (peak due to a powerful vibration mode of a particular room) or very attenuated (which is called a null). Peaks typically reverberates a lot and are responsible for muddy sound. A null typically occurs when something in the room rattles or vibrates and absorbs a large part of the radiated energy. That can be the whole walls themselves. Thus EQing the sub channel implies applying filters to tame the peaks and (if possible) boost the lulls. Having two subwoofers in a room helps all of that a lot. Each sub will create its own pattern, and if located at different positions, also excite different room modes. Typically two subs will fill each other's nulls and provide a bass that is more even across the room.

The good thing is that MultEQ XT should do a great job at adjusting delays for your subs and speakers so that they don't cancel each other out, and should be able to EQ the sub channel and adjust its overall volume so it's well integrated with your speakers.

Yes, I was happy with the CC-10 + CB-20 setup. The CC-10 is the matching center for the CB-10, CB-20 and all CF towers.

My frontstage is complemented by CB-5s for surrounds. My 5.2 setup uses a pair of M&K MX-70 subwoofers to provide the low-end duties. I am planning to expand to a 7.2 system later this year by adding a pair of CB-10s for the surrounds and using the current CB-5s as surround rears. Allof the bookshelf speakers sit on Sanus Steel Foundations speaker stands. I am looking forward to the system expansion!

I had the same basic setup (CB-20s, CC-10, CB-5s) and have since sold it to a friend, who's really happy about it. I wanted to try 3-way towers and couldn't get the CF-70s at interesting prices. When I saw the RC-70s selling for even cheaper at FutureShop, I decided to make the switch. I had pretty crappy stands for the CB-20s (the CB-5s were on shelves), and that was kind of frightening with a 1-year old toddler around. The towers are much more stable

I have a friend who has my RC-LCR, RC-10's, and S10.3 setup for demo and enjoys the sound. He can't go larger and was asking me about a wireless speaker setup for convenience. I am not familiar with wireless speakers. Since he does not want to lose sound quality, what would be some good wireless speakers? I assume to get the same sound quality, he will have to spend more? Thanks.

You friend can't go larger but can he get the same Energy RC speakers?

I dont know of any wirless speakers that sound that good.

wireless speakers, in general, really suck. I doubt he could approach the quality of Energy RC's even if he was willing to spend 5x the price.

perhaps if he's so concerned about the convenience he should just get a really nice soundbar (like the high-end Def Tech SSA) with a good subwoofer and call it a day.

Hi guys,

I currently have a Take 5 set and was thinking of upgrading. Would RC10's be better or the v5.1's for front L/R if I'm planning to also get a RCLCR?

Thanks!

if you're getting RC, stick with RC.

don't mix across the front soundstage unless you absolutely have to or it's much cheaper to do so. Since you are starting from scratch no reason not to match them.

Neutro, I was wondering if you could tell me (if you know) when the CB-series bookshelf speakers were released for sale on the marketplace. Same for the CC-10. I would like to dig back further into this thread and read what was said about them during their initial release time period. I purchased my loudspeakers back in April of this year.

afrogt, batpig:

Thanks for the comments. I was telling him that he is going to be hard pressed to match the sound quality of the RC's. I guess he is resistant to the idea of pulling speaker wires thru walls. I think he wants at least 2 zones.