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post #40021 of 47737
VS Surrounds WERE $150 ea for one weekend only, a while back. LCR has been $249 for a while now. I need to save some funds to get this, but also need to replace a plate amp on a sub I have...
post #40022 of 47737
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Originally Posted by caper_1 View Post

VS Surrounds WERE $150 ea for one weekend only, a while back. LCR has been $249 for a while now. I need to save some funds to get this, but also need to replace a plate amp on a sub I have...

Yeah right -- you did pull the trigger on the V-S didn't you? I thought you purchased the LCR as well.

Anyway I technically don't need any more speaker right now (though we all always *want* more). I should save up instead to be ready in the event I *need* some smile.gif But I'm always taken aback when I see those kind of prices. There are some items where prices are slashed 50% on a regular basis... Cheese, diapers, speakers. Go figure tongue.gif After seeing that you try to slash a couple hundred bucks on your next car and it takes everything.
post #40023 of 47737
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

And the V-S, just to try them out.
And you can get the audio code discount if you're canadian by using Vann's to order but going with Amazon Payments for the checkout.
No. No. I must not. biggrin.gif


Hate to tell you this, but I definitely like the VS Surrounds instead of the RC-10s for rears. They could actually end up being a worthwhile upgrade wink.gif
post #40024 of 47737
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Hate to tell you this, but I definitely like the VS Surrounds instead of the RC-10s for rears. They could actually end up being a worthwhile upgrade wink.gif

{Fingers in ears} LA LA LA LA
post #40025 of 47737
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

here is the test again...but To be fair with both speakers, the receiver is set as a - b channels together, but using only the right channels with both speakers.so the same info is playing on both speakers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx3PohPty2o

remember that this is recorded from a cam, this is just to get an idea of the difference in sound between rc-70 and veritas v6.3.

Much thanks for the test. Just for my own education ... based on that test would you call the RC-70 sound more flat and tight (or subdued?) compared to the V6.3 being more forward and brighter?
post #40026 of 47737
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

In case this is an option for you, sdg4vfx, I'm using this stand with my RC-LCR. Since the picture in that post, I got a 60+ lb 50" Plasma, and it has no problems supporting the weight.

Already saw that - great idea. My TV is already a little high - not using a standard, low HDTV stand but a large antique china/sideboard cabinet. (Always liked the TV a little higher as it's great for movie nights with several guests/kids - no blocked views.)
post #40027 of 47737
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

When did the RC-10 price drop to $219 a pair at Vanns? I must have missed that. smile.gif

Amazing price - do you think RC-10's would be good near-field computer speakers? (Learning some music/mixing software and was looking for new, good computer speakers anyway.)
post #40028 of 47737
I can get the Denon 1912 for $450 from Ammazon or I can get the Denon 2113 for $550 Vann's. Is it worth it to pay the $100 difference for the 2113?
post #40029 of 47737
Would RC-10's and S10.3 make a good 2.1 system for a bedroom? (i.e. no center)

The prices on both are killer right now ...
post #40030 of 47737
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Originally Posted by sdg4vfx View Post

Would RC-10's and S10.3 make a good 2.1 system for a bedroom? (i.e. no center)
The prices on both are killer right now ...

Terrific 2.1 system.
post #40031 of 47737
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Originally Posted by sdg4vfx View Post

Much thanks for the test. Just for my own education ... based on that test would you call the RC-70 sound more flat and tight (or subdued?) compared to the V6.3 being more forward and brighter?

sorry but because there is another review about this two speakers on how they sound I will limit to make any new review,Because I dont want to confused you.However after been for months with both speakers there is now some points on that review that I disagree.
post #40032 of 47737
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Originally Posted by Gmonski View Post

I can get the Denon 1912 for $450 from Ammazon or I can get the Denon 2113 for $550 Vann's. Is it worth it to pay the $100 difference for the 2113?

yes, for sure. $450 is not even a good price for the 1912.

also call up Electronics-Expo, they will probably beat that price for the 2113ci.
post #40033 of 47737
Thanks to Cel4145 and batpig . I finally placed an order today at Vanns for Energy RC-70 Pair with RCLCR center channel – Price is $1046. They offered me RC10s pair for $215.
post #40034 of 47737
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

here is the test again...but To be fair with both speakers, the receiver is set as a - b channels together, but using only the right channels with both speakers.so the same info is playing on both speakers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx3PohPty2o

remember that this is recorded from a cam, this is just to get an idea of the difference in sound between rc-70 and veritas v6.3.

losservatore, thanks for posting this. I did notice that Veritas v6.3 was sounding a little different. But I decided to go with RC-70s and placed my order today.

Now the funny part, I listened to this song over and over checking the quality of speakers and the song got stuck in my mind. I asked a few people about the song and nobody knew it. Finally I used an app on my phone to find it out.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/soundhound/id355554941?mt=8

I played the song to it and the app found it out before even the singer started singing! I knew this was some classic even though I did not know the language .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9same_Mucho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPRESlT4Ccg

Thank you for introducing me to this song :-)
post #40035 of 47737
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

sorry but because there is another review about this two speakers on how they sound I will limit to make any new review,Because I dont want to confused you.However after been for months with both speakers there is now some points on that review that I disagree.

Still new to the audio forums - I was just trying to put "sounds" to some of the common descriptors (bright, flat, forward, etc.) that I've been reading. Didn't intend to "review" the speakers from the little clip ; )
post #40036 of 47737
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Originally Posted by sdg4vfx View Post

Still new to the audio forums - I was just trying to put "sounds" to some of the common descriptors (bright, flat, forward, etc.) that I've been reading. Didn't intend to "review" the speakers from the little clip ; )

I found the sound of the veritas v6.3 more transparent and detailed, more open and spacious,airy , Crisp and Bright but not to the point of creating distortion,the only down I found depending of the audio track is sibilance. it can be distracting in some tracks.
post #40037 of 47737
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

Terrific 2.1 system.

Yep. And I've used them for nearfield computer speakers with a HK 3390 receiver. Nice sound, especially at $220 smile.gif
post #40038 of 47737
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

I found the sound of the veritas v6.3 more transparent and detailed, more open and spacious,airy , Crisp and Bright but not to the point of creating distortion,the only down I found depending of the audio track is sibilance. it can be distracting in some tracks.

Thanks - great to have an aural example of those qualities. Make sense when I listen to the test.
post #40039 of 47737
Got my Veritas V52 LCR today from Future Shop, it only has one port on the back do the Vanns models have two? Anyway here's my quick notes on RC vs Veritas:

RC-10 vs Veritas V51:
Differences aren't readily apparent. I'll have to A-B these side by side to pick out the differences. Have to give the V51's the edge just because of their looks.

RC-LCR vs Veritas V51:
Veritas is quite disappointing, it sounds more like an oversized RC-Mini center speaker than a true LCR. The 3 way design of the RC-LCR blows the V52 away, no comparison really. If not for my love of the Rosenut finish I'd probably return this and keep my RC-LCR. I'll just have to learn to like it.
post #40040 of 47737
Well, I would give the 5.2C some playing time and then re-evaluate... Hopefully it gets better for ya... As far as there being only 1 port instead of 2; this was a "running" design change made very early in the manufacturing of this model.. The very first ones had the 2 ports and then Klipsch/Energy switched to the one port design, which I assume the majority of these will have...
post #40041 of 47737
well I found that the veritas center perfectly match the towers but the rc-lcr even after fully break in never matched with the rc-70s.always found the rc -lcr sound boxy and Muffled.

like deano86 said give it a more time to fully break in.

one of the things that I found out about the veritas is that they needed more time to break in, to fully get their sound.
post #40042 of 47737
461

looking at the VS surround speakers and had a question - currently, i have RC-10s on either side of the couch facing directly at the listening position. if i were to use the VS in bipole/dipole mode, would the wall behind the one speaker throw off the balance with the second speaker? the wall comes out 64" and approximately 1/3 of the way behind the couch.
post #40043 of 47737
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

I record with my cam a video with the rc-70s and veritas v6.3 together, I know is nothing close to the real sound but you get an idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx3PohPty2o
To be fair with both speakers, the receiver is set as a - b channels together, but using only the right channels with both speakers.so the same info is playing on both speakers.

So if you had to pick between the two, which would you choose?
post #40044 of 47737
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Originally Posted by dasanii19 View Post

So if you had to pick between the two, which would you choose?


for what I paid for the veritas only $1,200 the pair brand new from vanns and the rc-70s around $750 for the pair brand new.Ill stick with both wink.gif.For me there is no winner here. I like the sound of both speakers.


both have their unique sound.
Edited by losservatore - 6/26/12 at 10:05pm
post #40045 of 47737
It's weird, I can't play your youtube videos through my xbox. Wonder why that is? I usually watch youtube videos on the xbox these days.
post #40046 of 47737
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Originally Posted by losservatore View Post

...but the rc-lcr even after fully break in never matched with the rc-70s.always found the rc -lcr sound boxy and Muffled....
So you are saying the RC-LCR is NOT a good match to the 70s ?? This is the first time I have heard this. Are you sure you don't have a bum driver in it?
post #40047 of 47737
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

Hate to tell you this, but I definitely like the VS Surrounds instead of the RC-10s for rears. They could actually end up being a worthwhile upgrade wink.gif

I almost pulled the trigger at $150 last time. And will be even more tempted if they drop again. But yeah, I'm thinking about replacing my RC-10s with the VSs as surrounds. Not only because of reviews like yours, but just being able to mount them on the walls and not have stands with speakers balanced on top.
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Originally Posted by Gmonski View Post

I can get the Denon 1912 for $450 from Ammazon or I can get the Denon 2113 for $550 Vann's. Is it worth it to pay the $100 difference for the 2113?

As others have mentioned, if you pick up the phone and call some of the authorized online retailers you're likely to find significantly better pricing (esp on the xx12 models). If you go over the AMPs, Receivers, etc forum, there are some really great threads started by batpig that will tell you the differences in the xx12/xx13 models, and each level within. Depending on the specific version, the new models (xx13) are both losing and gaining some features. Unless one of the things they're gaining is a must-have, the price-breaks on the xx12s make them a no-brainer imo.
post #40048 of 47737
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Originally Posted by caper_1 View Post

So you are saying the RC-LCR is NOT a good match to the 70s ?? This is the first time I have heard this. Are you sure you don't have a bum driver in it?

There is been plenty of comments here about the timbre between the Rc.70 and Rc.lcr.
post #40049 of 47737
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Originally Posted by OmegaR3D View Post

Veritas is quite disappointing, it sounds more like an oversized RC-Mini center speaker than a true LCR. The 3 way design of the RC-LCR blows the V52 away, no comparison really. If not for my love of the Rosenut finish I'd probably return this and keep my RC-LCR. I'll just have to learn to like it.

I seem to be one of the few that here that demo'd the V-5.2C, and sent it back in favor of the RC-LCR. My biggest gripe with the V-5.2C was in the treble - I found it a little harsh, and sibilance was more noticeable that with the RC-LCR (and NHT TwoC I also compared it to).

I do feel the V-5.2C has a bit cleaner, more resolving low end... Even with port plugs, I always thought the RC-LCR was a little too "weighty" in the lows, and as a result, male (and some deeper female) voices could sound too thick making dialogue seem less clear... but I never found it boxy or closed in.

The V-5.2C is also a lot more sensitive, so that's a huge plus for those with lower power entry level AVR's.

But for me, overall, the RC-LCR was still my preference due to the smoother treble performance.
post #40050 of 47737
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

yes, for sure. $450 is not even a good price for the 1912.
also call up Electronics-Expo, they will probably beat that price for the 2113ci.

I picked up my 3312 for $660 shipped from them. Wasn't as good as the Amazon deal, but it was the best deal I found.
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