Energy Owners Thread - Page 1335

VS Surrounds WERE $150 ea for one weekend only, a while back. LCR has been $249 for a while now. I need to save some funds to get this, but also need to replace a plate amp on a sub I have...

Yeah right -- you did pull the trigger on the V-S didn't you? I thought you purchased the LCR as well.

Anyway I technically don't need any more speaker right now (though we all always *want* more). I should save up instead to be ready in the event I *need* some But I'm always taken aback when I see those kind of prices. There are some items where prices are slashed 50% on a regular basis... Cheese, diapers, speakers. Go figure After seeing that you try to slash a couple hundred bucks on your next car and it takes everything.

Hate to tell you this, but I definitely like the VS Surrounds instead of the RC-10s for rears. They could actually end up being a worthwhile upgrade

{Fingers in ears} LA LA LA LA

Much thanks for the test. Just for my own education ... based on that test would you call the RC-70 sound more flat and tight (or subdued?) compared to the V6.3 being more forward and brighter?

Already saw that - great idea. My TV is already a little high - not using a standard, low HDTV stand but a large antique china/sideboard cabinet. (Always liked the TV a little higher as it's great for movie nights with several guests/kids - no blocked views.)

Amazing price - do you think RC-10's would be good near-field computer speakers? (Learning some music/mixing software and was looking for new, good computer speakers anyway.)

I can get the Denon 1912 for $450 from Ammazon or I can get the Denon 2113 for $550 Vann's. Is it worth it to pay the $100 difference for the 2113?

Would RC-10's and S10.3 make a good 2.1 system for a bedroom? (i.e. no center)

The prices on both are killer right now ...

Terrific 2.1 system.

sorry but because there is another review about this two speakers on how they sound I will limit to make any new review,Because I dont want to confused you.However after been for months with both speakers there is now some points on that review that I disagree.

yes, for sure. $450 is not even a good price for the 1912.

also call up Electronics-Expo, they will probably beat that price for the 2113ci.

Thanks to Cel4145 and batpig . I finally placed an order today at Vanns for Energy RC-70 Pair with RCLCR center channel – Price is $1046. They offered me RC10s pair for $215.

losservatore, thanks for posting this. I did notice that Veritas v6.3 was sounding a little different. But I decided to go with RC-70s and placed my order today.

Now the funny part, I listened to this song over and over checking the quality of speakers and the song got stuck in my mind. I asked a few people about the song and nobody knew it. Finally I used an app on my phone to find it out.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/soundhound/id355554941?mt=8

I played the song to it and the app found it out before even the singer started singing! I knew this was some classic even though I did not know the language .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9same_Mucho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPRESlT4Ccg

Thank you for introducing me to this song :-)

Still new to the audio forums - I was just trying to put "sounds" to some of the common descriptors (bright, flat, forward, etc.) that I've been reading. Didn't intend to "review" the speakers from the little clip ; )

I found the sound of the veritas v6.3 more transparent and detailed, more open and spacious,airy , Crisp and Bright but not to the point of creating distortion,the only down I found depending of the audio track is sibilance. it can be distracting in some tracks.

Yep. And I've used them for nearfield computer speakers with a HK 3390 receiver. Nice sound, especially at $220

Thanks - great to have an aural example of those qualities. Make sense when I listen to the test.

Got my Veritas V52 LCR today from Future Shop, it only has one port on the back do the Vanns models have two? Anyway here's my quick notes on RC vs Veritas:

RC-10 vs Veritas V51:
Differences aren't readily apparent. I'll have to A-B these side by side to pick out the differences. Have to give the V51's the edge just because of their looks.

RC-LCR vs Veritas V51:
Veritas is quite disappointing, it sounds more like an oversized RC-Mini center speaker than a true LCR. The 3 way design of the RC-LCR blows the V52 away, no comparison really. If not for my love of the Rosenut finish I'd probably return this and keep my RC-LCR. I'll just have to learn to like it.

Well, I would give the 5.2C some playing time and then re-evaluate... Hopefully it gets better for ya... As far as there being only 1 port instead of 2; this was a "running" design change made very early in the manufacturing of this model.. The very first ones had the 2 ports and then Klipsch/Energy switched to the one port design, which I assume the majority of these will have...

well I found that the veritas center perfectly match the towers but the rc-lcr even after fully break in never matched with the rc-70s.always found the rc -lcr sound boxy and Muffled.

like deano86 said give it a more time to fully break in.

one of the things that I found out about the veritas is that they needed more time to break in, to fully get their sound.

looking at the VS surround speakers and had a question - currently, i have RC-10s on either side of the couch facing directly at the listening position. if i were to use the VS in bipole/dipole mode, would the wall behind the one speaker throw off the balance with the second speaker? the wall comes out 64" and approximately 1/3 of the way behind the couch.

So if you had to pick between the two, which would you choose?

for what I paid for the veritas only $1,200 the pair brand new from vanns and the rc-70s around $750 for the pair brand new.Ill stick with both .For me there is no winner here. I like the sound of both speakers.


both have their unique sound.
Edited by losservatore - 6/26/12 at 10:05pm

It's weird, I can't play your youtube videos through my xbox. Wonder why that is? I usually watch youtube videos on the xbox these days.

So you are saying the RC-LCR is NOT a good match to the 70s ?? This is the first time I have heard this. Are you sure you don't have a bum driver in it?

I almost pulled the trigger at $150 last time. And will be even more tempted if they drop again. But yeah, I'm thinking about replacing my RC-10s with the VSs as surrounds. Not only because of reviews like yours, but just being able to mount them on the walls and not have stands with speakers balanced on top.

As others have mentioned, if you pick up the phone and call some of the authorized online retailers you're likely to find significantly better pricing (esp on the xx12 models). If you go over the AMPs, Receivers, etc forum, there are some really great threads started by batpig that will tell you the differences in the xx12/xx13 models, and each level within. Depending on the specific version, the new models (xx13) are both losing and gaining some features. Unless one of the things they're gaining is a must-have, the price-breaks on the xx12s make them a no-brainer imo.

There is been plenty of comments here about the timbre between the Rc.70 and Rc.lcr.

I seem to be one of the few that here that demo'd the V-5.2C, and sent it back in favor of the RC-LCR. My biggest gripe with the V-5.2C was in the treble - I found it a little harsh, and sibilance was more noticeable that with the RC-LCR (and NHT TwoC I also compared it to).

I do feel the V-5.2C has a bit cleaner, more resolving low end... Even with port plugs, I always thought the RC-LCR was a little too "weighty" in the lows, and as a result, male (and some deeper female) voices could sound too thick making dialogue seem less clear... but I never found it boxy or closed in.

The V-5.2C is also a lot more sensitive, so that's a huge plus for those with lower power entry level AVR's.

But for me, overall, the RC-LCR was still my preference due to the smoother treble performance.

I picked up my 3312 for $660 shipped from them. Wasn't as good as the Amazon deal, but it was the best deal I found.