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post #41461 of 48191
10/5/12 at 4:44pm
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Originally Posted by ffactoryxx View Post

Alright so I bit.
I have ordered
Fronts - 3 X LCR's
Surrounds - 2 x VS Surrounds
Rear - 2 x RC 10
Paid about $1200 total.

That is a totally awesome setup, I'm sure you'll be delighted.
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Just need to add a sub now.

... exactly what I was going to add biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by brianlivingstone View Post

I recently replaced my side and rear RC10s, which were ceiling mounted on Omnimount brackets with RC8C in ceiling speakers. I have 2 installed so far, and 2 more are on their way to me. The RC10s sounded very good, they just looked a bit awkward hanging on the ceiling. The RC8Cs sound amazing, and they aren't broked in as of yet. Really really pleased I could find four of these speakers. Very excited. My next purchase is to replace my sub with a HSU VTF15H. Loving Energy speakers, shame the RC line is discontinued.
Brian

So you decided to keep the 8Cs finally? Having four of them is one hell of a bundle. They're actually the largest RC drivers smile.gif But they're about impossible to find right now, whatever the price. As said previously, I have my eyes on the RC-6Cst which are now again available at Crutchfield's for a reasonable price, but in my case it's not for a HT application. The nice thing with the 6Cst is that if I ever want to remove them and use them in a home theater environment, they can be used as single-channel bipole or dipole speakers. Actually I'm tempted to buy four of them now tongue.gif But I also must save up for my 2nd sub biggrin.gif (not a VTF-15H alas).
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post #41462 of 48191
10/5/12 at 5:33pm
Who has the best deal on RC-10's right now? And what about RC-minis for rears? The RC-10's seem a little big for the wall in my situation.

Is there a secret way to run wires in wall or inside the ceiling that doesn't involve tearing the drywall out? If I could figure out how to run wire through the walls I would consider in wall speakers for rears.
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post #41463 of 48191
10/5/12 at 5:51pm
If anyone's looking for Rosenut Veritas, you should check out WWStereo with promo code COLUMBUS1492.
V6.2 - under $300. For some odd reason, the black ones are only $100 off.
V5.2 - under $300. Again the black aren't as discounted.
V-S for $230
~$1360 for a good 5.0 setup is a fantastic deal.

ps: v-mini's for $120 is also pretty good for those.
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post #41464 of 48191
10/5/12 at 6:24pm
It was me. The guys are right up the street and I called last night to price match vNns prices. They were more than willing too.
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post #41465 of 48191
10/5/12 at 6:51pm
I know that some people don't consider these Energy Veritas speakers a good speaker around these forums and maybe they are correct if we are talking retail. At these discounted prices I couldn't buy anything else that would come close to these speakers.
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post #41466 of 48191
10/5/12 at 7:05pm
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Originally Posted by t3watts3 View Post

I know that some people don't consider these Energy Veritas speakers a good speaker around these forums and maybe they are correct if we are talking retail. At these discounted prices I couldn't buy anything else that would come close to these speakers.

I do t know. Meiners has lcr fronts for $200 each. Buy them as a front stage. Might me better than two 6.2s and a 5.2c
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post #41467 of 48191
10/5/12 at 7:27pm
Have any of you guys had the chance to compare the V mini with the Take 5 classic. I like the Takes, but they fall short sometimes. I am restricted by space, so the lcr's and such won't work for me. I originally was looking at the Mini RC when I bought the Takes, but they got discontinued and I missed the boat. Thanks for any input.
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post #41468 of 48191
10/5/12 at 7:30pm
I thought the Veritas was the top of the line. Does these same people think the RC series is junk because I think mine sound great. I'm not a hyper critical audiophile but these things sound good.
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post #41469 of 48191
10/5/12 at 8:10pm
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Originally Posted by Chezteladog View Post

Who has the best deal on RC-10's right now? And what about RC-minis for rears? The RC-10's seem a little big for the wall in my situation.
Is there a secret way to run wires in wall or inside the ceiling that doesn't involve tearing the drywall out? If I could figure out how to run wire through the walls I would consider in wall speakers for rears.



http://www.ebay.com/itm/Glow-Fish-Fiberglass-Wire-Pull-Rods-TOOL-BOX-Kit-/400259040318?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d314c443e

These are your friend, minimal cutting of dw. Of course, all depends on how your joists run or if you have a bulkhead you can travel through.
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post #41470 of 48191
10/5/12 at 8:24pm
Hey guys! I'm absolutely sold on Energy Speakers but can't decide on which combo to go with:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4990251&sku=K55-1188%20KIT

or

Energy Take 5 Pack 5CH Home Theater Speaker System (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882269004) + Polk Audio PSW Series PSW10 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290034)

Thanks for your help!
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post #41471 of 48191
10/5/12 at 9:31pm
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Originally Posted by Chezteladog View Post

I thought the Veritas was the top of the line. Does these same people think the RC series is junk because I think mine sound great. I'm not a hyper critical audiophile but these things sound good.

the CURRENT veritas speakers are the top of the CURRENT energy line. i'm not sure which people you are referring to, but the only group i could imagine that consider the RC series to be junk are those with systems worth tens of thousands of dollars. most people are very happy with the RC series.
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post #41472 of 48191
10/5/12 at 11:05pm
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Originally Posted by ffactoryxx View Post

I do t know. Meiners has lcr fronts for $200 each. Buy them as a front stage. Might me better than two 6.2s and a 5.2c

V6.2 and V5.2 for front stage is a great setup for HT. I personally would take the V6.2 tower over the RCLCR any day for music as well.
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post #41473 of 48191
10/6/12 at 12:16am
I running a pioneer vsx 1021 with a rc-lcr center and rc70 front's. Just recently I rewired with 12 guage wire and banana plugs. My receiver has started to shut off at random times. It seems to shut off when I'm in the surround modes not when I'm in stereo mode. Any thoughts of what could be happening? Help please.
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post #41474 of 48191
10/6/12 at 12:16am
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Originally Posted by t3watts3 View Post

I know that some people don't consider these Energy Veritas speakers a good speaker around these forums and maybe they are correct if we are talking retail. At these discounted prices I couldn't buy anything else that would come close to these speakers.

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Originally Posted by brendelac View Post

the CURRENT veritas speakers are the top of the CURRENT energy line. i'm not sure which people you are referring to, but the only group i could imagine that consider the RC series to be junk are those with systems worth tens of thousands of dollars. most people are very happy with the RC series.

Well I was referring to the people the other guy was referring to that don't consider the Veritas to be a good speaker. What I was asking is if the Veritas are the top of the line and those people think they are not very good then what must they think of the lower model RC's. Eh..forget it.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Glow-Fish-Fiberglass-Wire-Pull-Rods-TOOL-BOX-Kit-/400259040318?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d314c443e
These are your friend, minimal cutting of dw. Of course, all depends on how your joists run or if you have a bulkhead you can travel through.

Thanks for the tip.
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post #41475 of 48191
10/6/12 at 4:43am
Watchawannaget is called a flex bit. You can cut a hole big enough for an electrical box in the wall and then drill up through it and into the attic or down to the basement. Get a 72 incher or a shorter one if only going to the basement. You'll need an extension if you want your box to be the same height as the electrical outlets. They have tools to help guide them or you can just try one first to see if you're gonna hit one of those diagonal blocks or something partway up the wall. Once you get it through you just tape your wire to the end and pull it through. The best part is you don't have to measure anything. The bit will be there when you get up in the attic waiting to be pulled up with your wire already attatched. It can be be a piece of cake or a nightmare depending on any number of things but they have them for 26 bucks on Amazon with free shipping if you've got Amazon Prime.

You can also just use a regular drill bit if it's long enough to get through a coupla 2x4's and a simple fish tape but the flex bits are also handy if you need to go sideways under windows and such. Or you could just learn how to patch drywall. That's a skill that will always come in handy! Some people just cut a slit in the wall and drill down through the sill (or up through the top of the wall) and then fish the wire to the box and then patch the slit. That way they don't have to take a drill into a crawl space.

I prefer the flex bit because not only can it be done by only one person, but you get to use a really bitchin' tool while you're doing it!
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post #41476 of 48191
10/6/12 at 10:39am
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

That's pretty cool. I wish I had the woodworking skills to build a sub enclosure. Definitely very cost effective way of getting a good sub.
Did you get the kit with the Antimode? I have one. They do work very well.
No antimode yet. That will come down the road when both subs are in place. That first sub I made was my first woodworking project ever. Just take your time and get an experienced friend to show you some skills.
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That is indeed very cool. Do you find building the cabinet hard? How much is you total investment in each of those DIY subs? I see the kit is about $400 shipped, and you have to build the cabinet... can you do it under $600 total? I find it interesting that the kit comes with a passive radiator. This is far from being the most common enclosure alignment, but it seems Nathan Funk from Funk Audio decided to go with them instead of ports in its 15.3 and 18.3 subs.
No the cabinet is easy. The hardest part was the internal braces. Had no tips, so went with our own. that was the only annoying part. The kit was $480 with tax & shipping. MDF is about $40, glue about $8, weatherstrip about $8, and I already have other stuff left over from the first sub: duratex cabinet finish, glue sticks. So yeah, under $600 easy. last one was a bit more with the 2 PRs, and SPA amp. ($600 shipped& tax). There was also a price drop since the first one I bought.
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post #41477 of 48191
10/6/12 at 11:05am
Can someone shed some light on where these $200 RC-LCR speakers are being ordered from. On Vanns.com, they are currently $300. Is there another site that I'm not aware of or are these local craigslist/eBay deals?
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post #41478 of 48191
10/6/12 at 11:09am
The RC-LCR were on Meijer.com for $200. Looks like they might be out of stock now.
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post #41479 of 48191
10/6/12 at 12:32pm
Meijer had 16 as of last night. I was going to buy 2 this morning for L/R and they were all gone. Someone bought all the stock mad.gif
I hope they get more in...
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post #41480 of 48191
10/6/12 at 1:19pm
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Originally Posted by Ranger View Post

Meijer had 16 as of last night. I was going to buy 2 this morning for L/R and they were all gone. Someone bought all the stock mad.gif
I hope they get more in...
wouldn't be surprised if they end up on ebay for $400.price gougers knowing that they are hard to find
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post #41481 of 48191
10/6/12 at 1:32pm
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Originally Posted by smasher50 View Post

wouldn't be surprised if they end up on ebay for $400.price gougers knowing that they are hard to find

I bought 3. Should have bought more
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post #41482 of 48191
10/6/12 at 7:04pm
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Originally Posted by Fears4Ears View Post

Watchawannaget is called a flex bit. You can cut a hole big enough for an electrical box in the wall and then drill up through it and into the attic or down to the basement. Get a 72 incher or a shorter one if only going to the basement. You'll need an extension if you want your box to be the same height as the electrical outlets. They have tools to help guide them or you can just try one first to see if you're gonna hit one of those diagonal blocks or something partway up the wall. Once you get it through you just tape your wire to the end and pull it through. The best part is you don't have to measure anything. The bit will be there when you get up in the attic waiting to be pulled up with your wire already attatched. It can be be a piece of cake or a nightmare depending on any number of things but they have them for 26 bucks on Amazon with free shipping if you've got Amazon Prime.
You can also just use a regular drill bit if it's long enough to get through a coupla 2x4's and a simple fish tape but the flex bits are also handy if you need to go sideways under windows and such. Or you could just learn how to patch drywall. That's a skill that will always come in handy! Some people just cut a slit in the wall and drill down through the sill (or up through the top of the wall) and then fish the wire to the box and then patch the slit. That way they don't have to take a drill into a crawl space.
I prefer the flex bit because not only can it be done by only one person, but you get to use a really bitchin' tool while you're doing it!

Unfortunately I have neither an attic or a basement. In Arizona neither of those thing are common. I guess drywall patching is the only choice? If the ceiling joists run east to west then I'm in good shape to go that way. The walls are orange peel texture so Patching a lot of drywall seems like it would be difficult to match the texture just right. Maybe I should just invest in some good paintable cable raceways.
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post #41483 of 48191
10/6/12 at 7:23pm
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

Energy S10.3=Mirage Omni S10, Energy S8.3=Mirage Omni S8. So they are the same subwoofer line just rebranded. Literally (same parent company).
So quality wise, they are both very good. Big brother/little brother. However, the 8" woofer in the S8 would be challenged at larger volumes in a room that size.
However, at $275, then you are close to the Klipsch RW-12d price. About once every month or so, Newegg puts it on sale at $300. Or for $280, the BIC PL-200 can be had from Acoustic Sound Design (make them an offer).
How old are your kids? They are going to love some of these 4 to 5 start movies with some volume cranked and a good sub: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1333462/the-new-master-list-of-bass-in-movies-with-frequency-charts. Some good kid movies in those lists. So don't count them out as not being able to appreciate the benefits of a good sub biggrin.gif

Thanks for the response cel4145,

I did know that they were big and little brother to each other, but I guess I am wondering if the 10" is worth the price.

As far as the 12" goes I have heard that these 8" and 10" subs are a little better for music.

Thanks for you comments and I will look into the Klipsch. Other opinions welcome
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post #41484 of 48191
10/6/12 at 8:35pm
The RC-LCR is back in stock at Meijer. I got 2 and there are 5 left. If anyone is looking for one get it now before they are gone.
I am going with 3 RC-LCRs up front and will move the C-3's to the back for rear surrounds. Thinking about replacing the C-3 with the RC-10 but not sure yet since I also have a pair of C-R3.
I will put the C-C3 Center up for sale.
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post #41485 of 48191
10/7/12 at 5:07am
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Originally Posted by Matt Nicholson View Post

Thanks for the response cel4145,
I did know that they were big and little brother to each other, but I guess I am wondering if the 10" is worth the price.
As far as the 12" goes I have heard that these 8" and 10" subs are a little better for music.
Thanks for you comments and I will look into the Klipsch. Other opinions welcome

Hi Matt, I have the S10.3, S8.3, ESW V8, Omni S8 distributed across three rooms in an apartment. I have mixed and matched, compared a bit (unscientifically), and found that the S10.3 is worth the difference; the others are excellent subs, but I can notice the difference. In an apartment, they are a great size and since my use is at least half music, but still REALLY enjoy HD movies, they perform great at both to me, given my constraints (I like my neighbors).

The S10.3, to me is a great bargain at its current prices.
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post #41486 of 48191
10/7/12 at 8:55am
So, a few years ago, after reading on this site, I bought a sub and a couple of RC-10's for a 2.1 setup. Replacing carpet so now I can run some wires for surround sound (can't get to attic area due to high ceilings). I just bought the LCR for my center channel from Meijer's for $199 with free shipping. Here is my setup so far:

Denon 2310 AVR
RC-LCR (just purchased) - center channel
2 x RC10's - L and R
sub = energy esw-v10
living room shape - about 17 x 16. We sit about 12' back on couch, so the rear speakers will be 5' behind us. Left side of room has a lot of open space to kitchen and hallway.

I will probably stop with a 5.1 setup. I am thinking about rounding it out with 2 more RC10's. I've read about several of you who have done 3 RC-LCR's upfront given the current price. I don't really want to spend $400 for the LCR's when I can get the RC-10's for $200. Not sure I will notice enough difference to justify the price.

Any other suggestions other than the RC-10's? Worried about how those will look on the wall in the rear (kind of big sticking off the wall). Is there another smaller set of speakers I can add for the rear speakers that would match my setup? Any suggestions welcome as I am new at this. Before the RC-10's, I only ever used TV speakers before, so what I have is already a big upgrade and I'm thinking I will really enjoy having a dedicated center channel.
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post #41487 of 48191
10/7/12 at 11:30am
The LCR is a great center channel. I think it's worth another $200 to go 3 LCRs up front. Two channel music listening should be nicer as well being a 3-way speaker. If you want to keep the RC-10's up front then go for the VS Surrounds for the rear.

http://www.energy-speakers.com/surround-speakers/?sku=V-S
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post #41488 of 48191
10/7/12 at 11:44am
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Originally Posted by Ranger View Post

The LCR is a great center channel. I think it's worth another $200 to go 3 LCRs up front. Two channel music listening should be nicer as well being a 3-way speaker. If you want to keep the RC-10's up front then go for the VS Surrounds for the rear.
http://www.energy-speakers.com/surround-speakers/?sku=V-S

+1
The lcr is a 3 way speaker, the rc-10 is 2 way. You also get 2 woofers on the lcr versus 1 on the rc-10. IMO it's definitely worth it to get the lcr for fronts over the rc-10's. also remember with either setup, a nice sub is a must.
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post #41489 of 48191
10/7/12 at 11:47am
Where can I get the S10.3 sub at the moment?
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post #41490 of 48191
10/7/12 at 11:54am
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Originally Posted by hernanu View Post

The S10.3, to me is a great bargain at its current prices.

Newegg discontinued it. So it's no longer available at the great prices it was only a few weeks ago.
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