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Originally Posted by hernanu View Post

Hi Matt, I have the S10.3, S8.3, ESW V8, Omni S8 distributed across three rooms in an apartment. I have mixed and matched, compared a bit (unscientifically), and found that the S10.3 is worth the difference; the others are excellent subs, but I can notice the difference. In an apartment, they are a great size and since my use is at least half music, but still REALLY enjoy HD movies, they perform great at both to me, given my constraints (I like my neighbors).
The S10.3, to me is a great bargain at its current prices.

Thanks, I really appreciate the first hand opinion. I think I will place an order this week for the S10.3 then, just wish newegg had them back, really sucked to miss out on the $200 deal. Thanks for everyone's input.
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

The Klipsch RW-12d is $279 on Newegg through today. That's cheaper than the S10.3 now.

I just bought one. Looks like an incredible deal given the reviews and forum posts here - Thank you!!!
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Originally Posted by ffactoryxx View Post

Would that go well with my lcr fronts, vs surrounds and rc 10 backs

Sure. Here's two threads from the subwoofer forum that talk about the RW-12d:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1390563/klipsch-rw-12d-omnimic-frequency-response-graphs
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1420999/klipsch-rw-12d-subwoofer-only-299-save-70
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

Sure. Here's two threads from the subwoofer forum that talk about the RW-12d:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1390563/klipsch-rw-12d-omnimic-frequency-response-graphs
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1420999/klipsch-rw-12d-subwoofer-only-299-save-70


Nice. A few others in this thread said to get an outlaw or hsu with my 3 lcr fronts. Anyone else think $280 for this subject would make it a winner? If I use far wallet or Mr rebates I get an extra 2-3 percent cashback
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Ok, so I think I would like to pair up the Energy S10.3 with the Energy Take Classic speakers. I saw them a couple weeks ago on Newegg for $200 but seem to be sold out now. I am wondering if anyone else has experienced this and if so do they typically bring the products back?
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Originally Posted by ffactoryxx View Post

Nice. A few others in this thread said to get an outlaw or hsu with my 3 lcr fronts. Anyone else think $280 for this subject would make it a winner? If I use far wallet or Mr rebates I get an extra 2-3 percent cashback

I think this is the best sub for $280 along with the BIC PL-200.
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Originally Posted by ffactoryxx View Post

Nice. A few others in this thread said to get an outlaw or hsu with my 3 lcr fronts. Anyone else think $280 for this subject would make it a winner? If I use far wallet or Mr rebates I get an extra 2-3 percent cashback

The 12" Outlaw and HSU subs are the next step up from there. But that Klipsch is very good.
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I bought a used sub off of another forum member here...it was advertised in the classifieds and I would do it again. Have you checked your local craigslist or the avs classifieds?

Check out this beast that Ricci is selling...what a nice finish...http://www.avsforum.com/t/1432096/custom-diy-designed-funk-audio-built-subwoofer
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

The 12" Outlaw and HSU subs are the next step up from there. But that Klipsch is very good.

Ok so I can either wait and save the $600-700 for the Outlaw or get this for about $274 shipped and then sell down the road if i want to upgrade
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Also here were some local subwoofers I saw on craigslist. Anything worth a look at over the Klipsch Deal?

I read a few people saying you need to pack the Klipsch

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/ele/3243507531.html

Epik Empire
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/ele/3240676722.html

Velodyne 3500r
http://southjersey.craigslist.org/ele/3264947696.html
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Originally Posted by ffactoryxx View Post

Also here were some local subwoofers I saw on craigslist. Anything worth a look at over the Klipsch Deal?
I read a few people saying you need to pack the Klipsch
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/ele/3243507531.html
Epik Empire
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/ele/3240676722.html
Velodyne 3500r
http://southjersey.craigslist.org/ele/3264947696.html

The Epik Empire is a hell of a subwoofer. If the warranty will transfer, I'd say that's a good deal.
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Originally Posted by Matt Nicholson View Post

Thanks, I really appreciate the first hand opinion. I think I will place an order this week for the S10.3 then, just wish newegg had them back, really sucked to miss out on the $200 deal. Thanks for everyone's input.

No problem, Matt - as cel mentioned, the Newegg sale is now over, the cheapest I've seen is the $250 (+ shipping) on Amazon. Once it approaches other subs, like the Klipsch, you have to seriously consider others.
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

The Epik Empire is a hell of a subwoofer. If the warranty will transfer, I'd say that's a good deal.

+1
Amazing sub for music. Unfortunately the Warranty is not transferable I have read that epik did offer replacement parts at a discount to second owners or owners past the warranty period. That's one of the reasons I sold it back to the original owner that and finding a used submersive. biggrin.gif
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How much of an upgrade would the Klipsh be to my Old Sony SA-WM40 Subwoofer??
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Originally Posted by batt50 View Post

that and finding a used submersive. biggrin.gif
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Just picked up a very old Realistic STA-235B stereo receiver in mint condition. It sounds pretty good. I am going to hook them up to my Energy C-1 to use with my Zune.
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Originally Posted by ffactoryxx View Post

Also here were some local subwoofers I saw on craigslist. Anything worth a look at over the Klipsch Deal?
I read a few people saying you need to pack the Klipsch
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/ele/3243507531.html
Epik Empire
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/ele/3240676722.html
Velodyne 3500r
http://southjersey.craigslist.org/ele/3264947696.html

There is a guy in the avs classifieds selling a HSU sub in Philly...http://www.avsforum.com/t/1432742/fs-hsu-vtf-2-mk3-price-includes-shipping

I'm not really sure if that would work for you. Just pointing out that it is there and he mentions something about knocking off $ for local pickup. Just pointing out options.

http://www.hsuresearch.com/reviews/homeTheaterMagHb1ReviewMar2007.pdf
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Originally Posted by mphfrom77 View Post

There is a guy in the avs classifieds selling a HSU sub in Philly...http://www.avsforum.com/t/1432742/fs-hsu-vtf-2-mk3-price-includes-shipping
I'm not really sure if that would work for you. Just pointing out that it is there and he mentions something about knocking off $ for local pickup. Just pointing out options.
http://www.hsuresearch.com/reviews/homeTheaterMagHb1ReviewMar2007.pdf

Ohh nice. Is that a good deal? I am leery sometimes if things dont have a warranty? I live right outside of Philly and am down there 2-3 times a week.

I think without a warranty $300 is max I would pay.
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Originally Posted by mphfrom77 View Post

There is a guy in the avs classifieds selling a HSU sub in Philly...http://www.avsforum.com/t/1432742/fs-hsu-vtf-2-mk3-price-includes-shipping
I'm not really sure if that would work for you. Just pointing out that it is there and he mentions something about knocking off $ for local pickup. Just pointing out options.
http://www.hsuresearch.com/reviews/homeTheaterMagHb1ReviewMar2007.pdf

I just realized this is Downfiring. I am on a tile floor in my home theater with an area rug. If I put a Cut of Carpet under it would that work?
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Originally Posted by Chezteladog View Post

Unfortunately I have neither an attic or a basement. In Arizona neither of those thing are common. I guess drywall patching is the only choice? If the ceiling joists run east to west then I'm in good shape to go that way. The walls are orange peel texture so Patching a lot of drywall seems like it would be difficult to match the texture just right. Maybe I should just invest in some good paintable cable raceways.

If you have baseboards along the bottom of the wall, its possible that you could just pull those off instead of cutting into the walls. There is normally a gap under the bottom of the wallboard that you could possible run the wires in. If you pull the baseboards and the wall board runs to the floor, you could cut your own 1/2" - 3/4" gap to run the wires in. You would likely still need to repaint because you will leave marks on the walls when you are prying the base boards off, but that might be an easier option.
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Originally Posted by kgallerie View Post

If you have baseboards along the bottom of the wall, its possible that you could just pull those off instead of cutting into the walls. There is normally a gap under the bottom of the wallboard that you could possible run the wires in. If you pull the baseboards and the wall board runs to the floor, you could cut your own 1/2" - 3/4" gap to run the wires in. You would likely still need to repaint because you will leave marks on the walls when you are prying the base boards off, but that might be an easier option.

A good way to remove baseboards without leaving marks is to use a scrap piece of wood as the "pivot point" instead of the bare wall. wink.gif

baseboard.jpg 8k .jpg file
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Originally Posted by jjl4004 View Post

A good way to remove baseboards without leaving marks is to use a scrap piece of wood as the "pivot point" instead of the bare wall. wink.gif
baseboard.jpg 8k .jpg file

Yep. And I'm overly paranoid. I've even put a thin piece of cloth on the backside of that pivot point wood strip to keep it from scratching the finish (just in case it moves slightly).
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Originally Posted by ffactoryxx View Post

I just realized this is Downfiring. I am on a tile floor in my home theater with an area rug. If I put a Cut of Carpet under it would that work?

I can't answer if this sub would work or not work for you. I am not familiar with this one, and all things subwoofer. I was just showing you different avenues you could take. HSU has a pretty good name though, and they are here on this site for support and on their own site. I think you should start your own subwoofer thread or at least ask these questions over in the subwoofer threads for more informed answers.

I can say if I was in your position I would probably be very interested in that HSU and would go ahead and research it pretty well, and compare it to other routes, and long term goals. For me upgrade path versus depreciation is always a factor, in case I feel I may want to resell. I'm betting this HSU adds value there somewhat, if nothing else.

But basic things need to be addressed like room size and listening expectations and whatnot.

Just trying to help, but am prolly at the end of my advice. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by caper_1 View Post

No antimode yet. That will come down the road when both subs are in place. That first sub I made was my first woodworking project ever. Just take your time and get an experienced friend to show you some skills.

One of my squash buddies is a carpenter; what I'm trying to do is to get him interested enough in subs that we would build two subs "at cost"; I'd select the parts and try to design the sub, and he would help out with the hardware and finish. I'm not afraid that the sub I'd build would not work. I'm mainly afraid it would by too ugly to put anywhere near where I want it to be biggrin.gif
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No the cabinet is easy. The hardest part was the internal braces. Had no tips, so went with our own. that was the only annoying part.

Doesn't your kit come with detailed plans including internal bracing? Anyway as said above, it's the finish I'm most afraid of. That's why I'm very interested in infinite baffle subs biggrin.gif
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So yeah, under $600 easy.

For a 500-watt, 15" sub, it sure is hard to beat.

I think I'll consider building my own... after I buy my second SB12 and know how kickass it is *supposed* to sound. Please tell us if going duals was as game-changing as it's supposed to be.
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Originally Posted by kgallerie View Post

If you have baseboards along the bottom of the wall, its possible that you could just pull those off instead of cutting into the walls. There is normally a gap under the bottom of the wallboard that you could possible run the wires in. If you pull the baseboards and the wall board runs to the floor, you could cut your own 1/2" - 3/4" gap to run the wires in. You would likely still need to repaint because you will leave marks on the walls when you are prying the base boards off, but that might be an easier option.

That's actually a great idea. In fact the room is going to be painted eventually. I've been toying with the idea of doing molding on the top of the room anyway so either way could work.
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Originally Posted by ffactoryxx View Post

I just realized this is Downfiring. I am on a tile floor in my home theater with an area rug. If I put a Cut of Carpet under it would that work?

Ask at the subs forum. If you need to, just to try it out, you could do the carpet piece or something like a subdude , but that is a very good sub, get it and try it if the price is right for you.
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

Anyway as said above, it's the finish I'm most afraid of.
For a 500-watt, 15" sub, it sure is hard to beat..
The finish is called DURATEX. Google it. Very easy to apply and acceptable to the eyes. And that sub is only 12". I was hoping the SDX15 MkII would be released by now.
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... And steering back on the topic of Energy speakers, I'm about to order some in-ceiling RCs. I'm hesitating between a few options here as new data comes in wink.gif

The idea for in-ceiling speakers is to get a second zone in my dining / kitchen area. I was unsure of which in-ceiling speakers to get, considering what was available in Canada. Now the facts just changed for me:
  1. I'll have a few-days trip just minutes from the nearest Kinek point in November, so that ordering from Crutchfield's suddenly makes sense
  2. Crutchfield's now have RC-6Cst as well as RC-6C in stock! (The first for $120 and the second for $80 each).
  3. I was alerted that FutureShop still have clearance stock of the impressive RC-8Cs at some places, for $200 each
  4. Now my GF wants to re-arrange the living room furniture in way which will prevent me from using traditional speakers for surround backs

At first I was telling myself that the RC-6Cst would be ideal for kitchen area duty since they can accept two channels and play them both thanks to the dual tweeters. In effect with a pair of these, I could have two mono sources in the area. But having one right channel at one location and one left channel at the other is not the end of the world either: it's basically as if there was a stereo system in the room, just maybe awkwardly located somewhere on the ceiling. On top of it, using a pair of these in this mode would mean I'd need an impedance-matching volume control I guess ($50-$100, and the trouble of installing it in-wall), because it's as if you're trying to connect two pairs of speakers on a pair of terminals on your receiver. So I'm not so sure about the RC-6Cst after all.

If the RC-8Cs would have been at the same price and easily available I'd jump on them, but they're still much more expensive and I'm not sure I really need 3-way speakers in my kitchen. And if I want some, it seems that I'll have to hunt them down one by one across a 300 km territory. Not so keen on that either. Just ordering what I want online seems much easier.

Then the last point above hit me. Right now I have a less-than-ideal 7.1 configuration with my surround backs being large bookshelves dropped behind my couch, firing up. With the new living room arrangement, the back of the listening position will be a wall with our main door, a closet, a large mirror, lighting -- no way to install speakers there. I was prepared to give up on my surround backs but I realized that if I go south of the border to fetch a pair of in-ceiling speakers, I could as well order two pairs and use one as in-ceiling surround backs... Now if I do that, should I use the RC-6C (with aimable tweeters) or the RC-6Cst, which, with their dual tweeters, can act as bipole/dipole single-channel speakers? If I remember correctly, dipole speakers are recommended for surrounds but not necessarily surround backs... Are RC-6Cst overkill for surround backs if I can get RC-6Cs for $40 less each?

Thanks for any hint in that regard... I really don't know which to choose. The budget is not really tight but I'm not in the mood to overpay for surround backs or ambient music listening.
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