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post #41671 of 51440
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Originally Posted by internet seeker View Post

Any suggestions on how to fix the dent in the tweeter? Not too bad for 3 years with twins around them! This is on an rc-10. Wondering if I can undo the screws and push it out from the inside with a q-tip.

My daughter did the same thing to one of my rc-50's a few years ago. I didn't notice it till I moved them to my bedroom. I will eventually just get another tweeter. I can live with it for now since it sounds exactly like the other one. But I feel you pain.
post #41672 of 51440
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Originally Posted by internet seeker View Post

Any suggestions on how to fix the dent in the tweeter? Not too bad for 3 years with twins around them! This is on an rc-10. Wondering if I can undo the screws and push it out from the inside with a q-tip.
Try to tape the dent and pull the tape out slowly.

Vincent
post #41673 of 51440
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Originally Posted by vinnysj View Post

Try to tape the dent and pull the tape out slowly.

And then keep the grills on them wink.gif
post #41674 of 51440
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Originally Posted by vinnysj View Post

Try to tape the dent and pull the tape out slowly.
Vincent

the vertical plastic over the tweeter makes putting take on it difficult, but I can try. Has anyone tried removing the screws and the tweeter and then putting out from the inside? Easily done?
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

And then keep the grills on them wink.gif
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Originally Posted by vinnysj View Post

Try to tape the dent and pull the tape out slowly.
Vincent

Yes, grills are always on. But so are the kids.smile.gif
post #41675 of 51440
Deano, I might be interested in the ceiling mounts if no one else is. Just curious...Can you post a pic of those. And why in the world are you downsizing??? lol
post #41676 of 51440
Yes, it seems odd doesn't it! Honestly for my theater room, heights just don't provide nearly the effect as compared to my wides. I found that I actually liked the combo of DSX wides with surround rears for my 9.2 setup the best.... If my room had a higher ceiling, I think it may have worked better. I actually may be tempted to try in ceiling speakers instead that I can position further into the room to improve the angle with a lot more stealth... we will see. Regarding the Omnimounts.... I am waiting to hear back from someone on a possible combo price for both the RC-10s and the mounts... If that doesn't pan out, I will post a photo, but this shows essentially what they look like....

http://www.omnimount.com/products/speaker_mounts/stainless_steel_series/20.0_c/

They work absolutely perfect for the RC-10s and provide a lot of flexibility with fine tuning placement...
post #41677 of 51440
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

eBay alert -- anyone looking for high end surround speakers and upset about the lack of RC-R's or V-S surrounds... there is a pair of V2.0Ri on eBay right now for $300 minimum bid: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-Speakers-Veritas-V2-0Ri-Speaker-Set-/261114367000?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item3ccba10c18
Definitely 'i' models too as you can see the box.

batpig, I am running 3 x RC-LCRs up front. Would the VS Surrounds be better fit / closer match than the V2.0Ri ?
post #41678 of 51440
I would get the V2.0Ri because its a better speaker than VS Surround. Neither one is the perfect match, the RC-R would be. Might as well go for the better of the two Veritas speakers.
post #41679 of 51440
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Originally Posted by internet seeker View Post

Any suggestions on how to fix the dent in the tweeter? Not too bad for 3 years with twins around them! This is on an rc-10. Wondering if I can undo the screws and push it out from the inside with a q-tip.

Did you try a vaccum hose?
post #41680 of 51440
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Originally Posted by internet seeker View Post

Any suggestions on how to fix the dent in the tweeter? Not too bad for 3 years with twins around them! This is on an rc-10. Wondering if I can undo the screws and push it out from the inside with a q-tip.


The rc-tweeter diaphragm can be easily remove ,you can push then back or just remove the tweeter grill and use double tape ,double tape is very sticky and strong.
post #41681 of 51440
I appreciate all of the useful advice I have come across in this thread.
I'm putting my first home theater system together and just purchased 2 pairs of the Energy RC10's for my fronts and surrounds from Vanns. The next step was getting the center speaker, but I cannot locate the RC-LCR for sale anywhere besides Ebay for $450+. I read that I just missed a huge sale on Mejier for the LC-R (no stock on the site). Is there anywhere else you would recommend looking?
Thanks
post #41682 of 51440
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Originally Posted by jjmcenery View Post

I appreciate all of the useful advice I have come across in this thread.
I'm putting my first home theater system together and just purchased 2 pairs of the Energy RC10's for my fronts and surrounds from Vanns. The next step was getting the center speaker, but I cannot locate the RC-LCR for sale anywhere besides Ebay for $450+. I read that I just missed a huge sale on Mejier for the LC-R (no stock on the site). Is there anywhere else you would recommend looking?
Thanks

Get another set of RC-10s and lay one on its side for a center. Store the other one as a backup. There are a few people who have tried it sideways and it sounds fine. I put both my RC-10s sideways as front speakers for a few hours and they still sound good.

I just can't see paying $400+ for the LCR when it was under $200 just a couple weeks ago.
post #41683 of 51440
I found this on craigslist, maybe this guy will sell you one if still available.
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/ele/3317821239.html
post #41684 of 51440
I just typed in Craigslist Energy RC LCR on google and this came up. I don't live in Philly, I'm on the west coast.

This works even better...Googled "how to search all of craigslist"
http://www.searchcraigslist.org/
post #41685 of 51440
Thanks for the Craiglist suggestions, but I'm a little hesitant going that path as I haven't used Craigslist before.
I'm hoping that Mejier or some other vendor has some to sell at a normal price soon. I just am looking for 1 LCR unit, not trying to stock up on them for re-sale.
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post #41687 of 51440
Yeah, its certainly a good deal, but its local pickup only and I'm in NY.
I opted to order 2 sets of the RC10's while they are still available, just looking for 1 LC-R companion to complete the setup.
post #41688 of 51440
Hi, fellow Energy owners.

I’ve been enjoying my RC-70, RC-LCR and RC-10 setup for 10 months. The more I listen to them, the more I like them.
One of my buddies recently listened to my speakers and fell in love with them. He wants to start from front speakers and then gradually add center, surrounds, subwoofer.
Problem is I cannot find these RC-70s any more and I don’t want to recommend them to him knowing that it’s going to be hard to find matching center and surrounds later. His room layout is very similar to mine. Mid-size family room open to kitchen.

Here is what he needs

Budget: around $1200 for two front speakers. No subwoofer for now.
Receiver: around $400. maybe Denon 1912 or 1713.
Music/movie: 70/30 from Samsung DVD player and Mede8er media player.

I’m thinking these speakers but wondering what other speakers would sound comparable to RC-70, a bit warm and laidback but detailed with big soundstage.

PSB image T6
Monitor Audio RX6.
post #41689 of 51440
Hey I got the exact same set up, just with another pair of RC 10s. If you or your friend know anyone in canada, you can get a brand new pair from futureshop. (its owned by bestbuy but its suppose to be slightly higher end)

heres the link for the RC 70s:

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/energy-reference-connoisseur-4-way-tower-speaker-rc-70-black-single/10087359.aspx?path=260e3a0e01bff764b0d14e321c6bd956en02

It doesn't look like they have the RC 10s or the RCLCR but they got a lot of energy stuff thats suppose to be higher end then we what have at reasonable price. Not to mention your dollar right now maybe a bit better then the loonie so you may save even more! check it out.

I actually have a question for everyone, I want to mount one pair of my RC10s on the back wall of my room but I can't seem to find a good mounting bracket. Does anybody have any suggestions on where I can get one??? My brother is living in states right now so I can have somthing ordered from the US to his place in rochester. Thanks in advance
post #41690 of 51440
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Originally Posted by kojo39 View Post

Hey I got the exact same set up, just with another pair of RC 10s. If you or your friend know anyone in canada, you can get a brand new pair from futureshop. (its owned by bestbuy but its suppose to be slightly higher end)
heres the link for the RC 70s:
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/energy-reference-connoisseur-4-way-tower-speaker-rc-70-black-single/10087359.aspx?path=260e3a0e01bff764b0d14e321c6bd956en02
It doesn't look like they have the RC 10s or the RCLCR but they got a lot of energy stuff thats suppose to be higher end then we what have at reasonable price. Not to mention your dollar right now maybe a bit better then the loonie so you may save even more! check it out.

There are multiple problems with an American buying (those) in Canada. First, while you'll get RC-70s, as you observed, there's no way to get any other RC-series speakers in Canada. I know, I tried. I had to go south of the border for that. So unless he's interested by a stereo-only setup, it wouldn't be wise to advise him to get RC-70s. BTW, no, FutureShop is not really slightly higher end than BestBuy. Funnily we have both in Canada (sometimes in the same mall, competing each other, which is absurd), and there's really no difference between the two except for the brands they carry (EDIT: oh, and of course the color scheme they use).

Second problem: you would probably have noticed the $1250/each price tag. Not that interesting, considering you'd have to pay taxes on top of that (although no tax on speakers this week at FutureShop, by the way!). In the past three years, new arrivals of RC-70s at FutureShop during the Christmas Season were available at $500/each, so it would be more interesting if they do the same this year.

Third problem: finding a Canafriend and/or traveling to Canada / shipping the speakers south of the border. A few physical FutureShop stores still have remaining RC-70s but they're typically only available online. And you'll have to provide a Canadian address for the shipping. Once the speakers are there, you'll have to either travel north of the border and back to get them (potentially incurring duty and/or taxes), or ship them, which you'll find prohibitively expensive.

So I can't really recommend that right now... There is a non-negligible chance that the production of the RC line is definitively stopped now that Vann's is out of business (they were the exclusive distributor). Maybe Meijers got a deal on LCR surplus that Vann's couldn't buy post-production. So starting a new RC home theater setup is a risky proposition right now.
post #41691 of 51440
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Originally Posted by m9610172 View Post

Hi, fellow Energy owners.

I’ve been enjoying my RC-70, RC-LCR and RC-10 setup for 10 months. The more I listen to them, the more I like them.
One of my buddies recently listened to my speakers and fell in love with them. He wants to start from front speakers and then gradually add center, surrounds, subwoofer.
Problem is I cannot find these RC-70s any more and I don’t want to recommend them to him knowing that it’s going to be hard to find matching center and surrounds later. His room layout is very similar to mine. Mid-size family room open to kitchen.

Here is what he needs

Budget: around $1200 for two front speakers. No subwoofer for now.
Receiver: around $400. maybe Denon 1912 or 1713.
Music/movie: 70/30 from Samsung DVD player and Mede8er media player.

I’m thinking these speakers but wondering what other speakers would sound comparable to RC-70, a bit warm and laidback but detailed with big soundstage.

PSB image T6
Monitor Audio RX6.

PSB will probably be closer in tone to the Energy stuff, they are also a Canadian brand whose sound and design philosophies are guided by research from Canada's National Research Council (NRC). Monitor Audio is a British brand and their speakers tend to be more "forward" and bright, with an elevated treble response and a more "crisp" or "clinical" sound than the more neutral, laid back sound of the RC's. The Image line is probably comparable in sound quality to the RC's.

If receiver budget is around $400 have him call up Electronics Expo and inquire about a Denon AVR-2113ci, they should be able to get him one in the $450ish range. The 2113 is worth the extra bit, you get a 3-year warranty (instead of 2 years on the 17xx or 19xx models) and MultEQ XT calibration upgrade over the 19xx model. The 1713 has XT but it's only a 5ch unit and the 2113 has more features and power (plus that extra year of warranty).

I checked out Washington state craigslist listings and found these:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/ele/3332285444.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/ele/3332947866.html

The first listing (Image 6 towers, Image 9 center, plus a subwoofer for $800) is a great deal and he should jump on it if he's ready to buy.
post #41692 of 51440
It’s really sad we cannot find RC lines in America any more and Vanns is out of business.

And thank you batpig.
My buddy is on business trip for about a month and he asked me to look for the systems so that he can buy when he comes back. I’m also trying to stay away from used ones. I personally owned used speakers and was okay. But I don’t want to feel guilty with my friend just in case something goes wrong.
As for the receiver, I meant 1712, not 1713, but I’ll definitely consider 2113ci if I can get it around $450.

So for now
PSB Image T6 with Denon 2113ci would be my choice for him.

Kojo39,
I use this for RC-10 to mount on sidewall. I believe it will work well for your back wall.

http://www.amazon.com/Pinpoint-AM-40B-Clamping-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B002UV03MW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1350944907&sr=8-1&keywords=pinpoint+speaker
post #41693 of 51440
I currently have two energy cf-70, two cf-30 and a cc-5 that I bought new from newgg.com and wwstereo.com. Is the RC-70 package listed on ebay a good upgrade assuming I could sell my current setup? I am 50 miles from the Maryland location so that is not a problem. Just looking for comments as to the increased performance of the RC-70and how much could I expect to get for what I have now? Thanks.
post #41694 of 51440
If there is still a market for the RC series wouldn't you think Energy will find another distributor?

What about the Energy and other products that are still being sold on Vanns.com: they claim a manufacturers warranty but all of the manufacturers seem to have removed vanns from their authorized lists. I would think the manufacturer is obligated to honor the warranty (since product was consigned or purchased while vanns was authorized), but googling didn't reveal any definitive answers. If you buy rc-10 from vanns now do they have a warranty or not?
post #41695 of 51440
So, I'm still eyeing those 2.2i's that the gentleman is selling on craigslist, but I've also come across a [MUCH more expensive...] setup that might be worth asking you all about:

It's a full veritas 2.xi setup, pretty much brand new -- seller says the plastic is still even on the sides of the speakers. Original owner, but sounds like he didn't use them much...in media room, w/little kids in the household...so they weren't even hooked up to the stereo.

The setup consists of what, from my reading, was their Energy's main selling setup from the time period:
V2.4i
V2.0Ci
V2.0Ri
and an e:XL-S12

The seller is pretty much wanting to keep everything together, and is willing to go down to $1,800 for the whole setup....but would want the same amount to buy the towers by themselves -- he's moving, so is wanting to sell everything at once.
Is this considered a stellar deal? It's way more than I'm looking to spend...but heck...that's a WHOLE LOT of speaker Quality. I'd have to pretty much turn around and sell every speaker I own in order to make up the bulk of the costs...but if this is truly the last set of energy speakers I will ever need to own, might it be worth it?

Or...should I just keep looking at those 2.2i's, potentially get those for dedicated 2 channel listening...keep my current (already pretty nice) setup for everything else...and call it a day -- no "life"?!?! wink.gif
post #41696 of 51440
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Originally Posted by johnb4467 View Post

So, I'm still eyeing those 2.2i's that the gentleman is selling on craigslist, but I've also come across a [MUCH more expensive...] setup that might be worth asking you all about:
It's a full veritas 2.xi setup, pretty much brand new -- seller says the plastic is still even on the sides of the speakers. Original owner, but sounds like he didn't use them much...in media room, w/little kids in the household...so they weren't even hooked up to the stereo.
The setup consists of what, from my reading, was their Energy's main selling setup from the time period:
V2.4i
V2.0Ci
V2.0Ri
and an e:XL-S12
The seller is pretty much wanting to keep everything together, and is willing to go down to $1,800 for the whole setup....but would want the same amount to buy the towers by themselves -- he's moving, so is wanting to sell everything at once.
Is this considered a stellar deal? It's way more than I'm looking to spend...but heck...that's a WHOLE LOT of speaker Quality. I'd have to pretty much turn around and sell every speaker I own in order to make up the bulk of the costs...but if this is truly the last set of energy speakers I will ever need to own, might it be worth it?
Or...should I just keep looking at those 2.2i's, potentially get those for dedicated 2 channel listening...keep my current (already pretty nice) setup for everything else...and call it a day -- no "life"?!?! wink.gif

Sounds like a very good price for the whole set. If you have the money, it does not hurt to go and audition them to find out for yourself if the money spent is worth it to you or not.
post #41697 of 51440
johnb -- I assume you are talking about this craigslist ad? http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/ele/3342127638.html


the good news is those towers definitely look like "i" series based on the smooth grills. $1,800 for the complete 5.1 setup is a VERY fair price, and those speakers will probably be a significant step up from your current setup. If you can afford it, and are willing to go for it and sell off some other speakers to make up the cost, go for it! You can pair up the sub with your current S12.3 as well and take advantage of the dual sub calibration of your 4311ci.
post #41698 of 51440
Ok guys so i am going to be either cutting drywall this weekend or painting. As you can see from my photo's and my Awesome Microsoft Paint sketch, that is my current room and how its setup for 7.1. The front Towers will be replaced by the LCR's and the Sub on the left by the SVS.

My biggest thing are pictures are 1 - 2 - 4

( Photo 1 and 4) My Di-Pole VS - Surrounds will go where the plates are noted. Are they too high compared to the seating?

If so my buddy and I will move them down.

(Photo 2 and 5) You can currently see where my rear surrounds will be placed (Energy RC-10's). I currently have my JBLS mounted about 8-9 ft up in the corners and pointing Diagonal downward towards chairs.

If I have enough slack left in speakers should I move them to position A or B?
I assume I would have the DiPoles firing towards the back wall, would it even be worth the hassle to move the corner speakers?






post #41699 of 51440
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Originally Posted by ffactoryxx View Post

The front Towers will be replaced by the LCR's and the Sub on the left by the SVS.

So I see you finally scored a PB12-NSD. Congrats, you should love it. If you can, try several positions for the sub, not only that corner. Corner positions typically yield the most output but also the worst frequency response. As your SVS will have tons of output you may be interested in putting it, say 25% to 33% along your long wall for example. If you want to do it by the book, look up the "sub crawl" technique to find the best position.
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(Photo 2 and 5) You can currently see where my rear surrounds will be placed (Energy RC-10's). I currently have my JBLS mounted about 8-9 ft up in the corners and pointing Diagonal downward towards chairs.
If I have enough slack left in speakers should I move them to position A or B?

If you don't mind the extra work, yes you should, as surround backs should be, well, more in the back than on the sides. But keep in mind that surround back content is typically subtle and merges quite well with surround sides, so it won't be critical in movies. It should be most noticeable when playing videogames, where surround content is dynamically generated.
post #41700 of 51440
Yes, I agree with Neutro that if you can do it, I would move your rear surrounds more towards the center of the back wall.... A good rule of thumb is to put them inline with your front left and right speakers.... and your V-S surrounds should be just fine mounted up high. The goal of surrounds is to create a more diffuse non-localized sound field in your room. Mounting them high helps with that goal... if you find after calibration, that the surround effect is lacking just a tad, you can always turn up their level a couple db's to your liking.
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