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Thanks for the help. Would you recommend A or B option in the picture.

1. And just so I can clarify, they should generally mirror the to the fronts even if they are a little higher?

2. What mode would I set the DiPoles in when they are hung? I assume Dipole Mode so sound comes out front and back and envelopers me?

3. I am looking at paint colors at Sherwin Williams or Lowes. Is there a specific kind that wont reflect light from the TV?
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I just received an Energy Take 5 Classic system, but I also received by mistake a Polk CS2. Retailer will pay shipping on the CS2 return provided I have not opened it. However it looks awfully attractive to me compared to the tiny center speaker that came with the Take 5. I got the Take 5 on sale as a way to add surround speakers to my setup. My fronts are two 4-foot tall oak Mitsubishi towers with 12-inch woofers that I've been using for 22 years. The Take 5 classics are quite impressive to me for the sound they put out for such tiny speakers and are light enough to hang on my walls. Since the charge for the CS2 would only be half it's normal price, it seems like maybe I should just keep it and use it as the front center, use two Take 5's as front presence, two for side surround, and the Take 5 center as a center rear. Though money is tight and it would probably be wise to just send back the CS2, and I'm not sure how much of a difference it's going to make but I would think a pretty big one since it looks to be many times smaller than the CS2. My choice is to be happy with the Take 5 and get my money back on the CS2 and maybe buy a sub (I have none) or take the $$ hit and just enjoy the CS2. Opinions?
post #41703 of 51515
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Originally Posted by torht View Post

Sounds like a very good price for the whole set. If you have the money, it does not hurt to go and audition them to find out for yourself if the money spent is worth it to you or not.

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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

johnb -- I assume you are talking about this craigslist ad? http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/ele/3342127638.html
the good news is those towers definitely look like "i" series based on the smooth grills. $1,800 for the complete 5.1 setup is a VERY fair price, and those speakers will probably be a significant step up from your current setup. If you can afford it, and are willing to go for it and sell off some other speakers to make up the cost, go for it! You can pair up the sub with your current S12.3 as well and take advantage of the dual sub calibration of your 4311ci.

Thank you for your input, guys -- you're two of the people I was really hoping to get some input from, since you're familiar with the 'older' verities series.

As much as I'd love to say that I'm ready to drop $1,800 on the full veritas setup...I just can't justify dropping that much. I just put up my C-8's on craigslist tonight, in hopes that I might get a bite & could use that money to pursue the 2.2i's in the irvine ad. That way, I still have the full setup that I'm happy with, plus an entry into the veritas line for 2ch music that I'd never thought would happen. If I can sell the C-8's, then the price difference would be affordable...whereas the turnarond on trying to sell ALL my main speakers to makeup for the $1,800 setup would have just been too 'unsure' in this used market right now.

Hoping to audition the 2.2i's in the next number of days. smile.gif

Thoughts? Would have been amazing to have just dropped massive money on those high-end speakers...but I can't say that I'm 'poorly off' with my current setup, either.... wink.gif
If I can get those 2.2i's in there...all the better. biggrin.gif
post #41704 of 51515
Anybody in Ohio looking for some C series Energy, I came across this for the front three.


http://dayton.craigslist.org/ele/3338092652.html
Edited by Gmash - 10/24/12 at 5:40am
post #41705 of 51515
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Originally Posted by johnb4467 View Post

Thank you for your input, guys -- you're two of the people I was really hoping to get some input from, since you're familiar with the 'older' verities series.
As much as I'd love to say that I'm ready to drop $1,800 on the full veritas setup...I just can't justify dropping that much. I just put up my C-8's on craigslist tonight, in hopes that I might get a bite & could use that money to pursue the 2.2i's in the irvine ad. That way, I still have the full setup that I'm happy with, plus an entry into the veritas line for 2ch music that I'd never thought would happen. If I can sell the C-8's, then the price difference would be affordable...whereas the turnarond on trying to sell ALL my main speakers to makeup for the $1,800 setup would have just been too 'unsure' in this used market right now.
Hoping to audition the 2.2i's in the next number of days. smile.gif
Thoughts? Would have been amazing to have just dropped massive money on those high-end speakers...but I can't say that I'm 'poorly off' with my current setup, either.... wink.gif
If I can get those 2.2i's in there...all the better. biggrin.gif

Remind me, how large is your listening space? If your space is not large, it might not be worth it to get the full V2.4i setup as the V2.4i is both front and rear ported which could make placement tricky unless you have a large space. I don't think you can go wrong with either choice. If you utilize a subwoofer while listening to the V2.2i's, you should be fine.
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Originally Posted by ffactoryxx View Post

Thanks for the help. Would you recommend A or B option in the picture.

Whatever is easiest or most practical for you I guess. It's customary to put surrounds and surround backs a bit higher than the fronts and centers, but there is no clear reason for this I think. Maybe sound engineers prepare their mix with that configuration in mind. I for one ran a 7.1 setup with the surround backs on the floor, firing up, behind a couch, so either I'm not very demanding and thus not someone to trust in the matter, or you'd be ok either way biggrin.gif I'd say don't overthink it...
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1. And just so I can clarify, they should generally mirror the to the fronts even if they are a little higher?

I think that's what deano86 meant, and it's certainly a good point of reference. But I doubt you'd notice if they were not exactly in line with the fronts.
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2. What mode would I set the DiPoles in when they are hung? I assume Dipole Mode so sound comes out front and back and envelopers me?

Try dipole mode first. What it does is run the mids out of phase. This creates a diffusion pattern with a null everywhere the distance to the mids is equal, including the direct line-of-sight from the listener to the dipole speaker. So what you'll hear is only sound reflected from other surfaces and almost nothing coming directly from the speaker, thus the more enveloping / diffuse effect. If this doesn't work for you, setting the speaker on bipole mode will run the mids in phase. I think you can also adjust the crossover so that the mids take over a larger or smaller frequency range.
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3. I am looking at paint colors at Sherwin Williams or Lowes. Is there a specific kind that wont reflect light from the TV?

Black matte, but good luck with that if you have a significant other that must approve of the decision first biggrin.gif (in all seriousness simply, as dark and matte as you can)

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Originally Posted by virsat View Post

I just received an Energy Take 5 Classic system, but I also received by mistake a Polk CS2. Retailer will pay shipping on the CS2 return provided I have not opened it. However it looks awfully attractive to me compared to the tiny center speaker that came with the Take 5. I got the Take 5 on sale as a way to add surround speakers to my setup. My fronts are two 4-foot tall oak Mitsubishi towers with 12-inch woofers that I've been using for 22 years. The Take 5 classics are quite impressive to me for the sound they put out for such tiny speakers and are light enough to hang on my walls. Since the charge for the CS2 would only be half it's normal price, it seems like maybe I should just keep it and use it as the front center, use two Take 5's as front presence, two for side surround, and the Take 5 center as a center rear. Though money is tight and it would probably be wise to just send back the CS2, and I'm not sure how much of a difference it's going to make but I would think a pretty big one since it looks to be many times smaller than the CS2. My choice is to be happy with the Take 5 and get my money back on the CS2 and maybe buy a sub (I have none) or take the $$ hit and just enjoy the CS2. Opinions?

Well the center channel is the most important one for home theater in terms of amount of content and importance of clarity because of dialogues. You would already have a mismatched front stage with mitsubishi fronts and the take center. Surely the Polk CS2 would offer a better match with the mistubishi towers than the small take center. I'd keep the CS2 if the price is right for you, although I have no opinion about that particular center. You won't find any center speaker that is a perfect match for 22-yo towers, so you might as well go with this one.
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Originally Posted by Titan Uranus View Post

Did you try a vaccum hose?


eek.gif Are you nuts? You could pop the tweeter that way.
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Originally Posted by ffactoryxx View Post

Ok guys so i am going to be either cutting drywall this weekend or painting. As you can see from my photo's and my Awesome Microsoft Paint sketch, that is my current room and how its setup for 7.1. The front Towers will be replaced by the LCR's and the Sub on the left by the SVS.
My biggest thing are pictures are 1 - 2 - 4
( Photo 1 and 4) My Di-Pole VS - Surrounds will go where the plates are noted. Are they too high compared to the seating?
If so my buddy and I will move them down.
(Photo 2 and 5) You can currently see where my rear surrounds will be placed (Energy RC-10's). I currently have my JBLS mounted about 8-9 ft up in the corners and pointing Diagonal downward towards chairs.
If I have enough slack left in speakers should I move them to position A or B?
I assume I would have the DiPoles firing towards the back wall, would it even be worth the hassle to move the corner speakers?


Hey, not to derail the help you are getting, but have you seen this:

http://www.dolby.com/us/en/consumer/setup/connection-guide/home-theater-speaker-guide/index.html
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Excellent link, Sound Engineer; thanks for sharing!

BTW: Welcome to AVS Forum...
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Originally Posted by erhurd View Post

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Excellent link, Sound Engineer; thanks for sharing!
BTW: Welcome to AVS Forum...

Thanks everyone for help. I can't wait. Just need to find some good black paint for cieling and walls.
post #41711 of 51515
Brand New pair of RC-50s on Ebay for $400 shipped. They are brand new in the box, but seller makes reference to a scratch... which actually may only be on the outer packaging?. If interested in this good deal, drop the seller an email to confirm condition. But, this could be an awesome deal for someone looking for towers...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Energy-RC-50-Tower-Speaker-Pair-/181006206034?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
post #41712 of 51515
I think he has had those a while. I remember someone from Indiana trying to sell brand new 50's from like a year ago. Well they are sold now, your link must have done the trick.
post #41713 of 51515
Well, at that price they should be gone!
post #41714 of 51515
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Originally Posted by torht View Post

Remind me, how large is your listening space? If your space is not large, it might not be worth it to get the full V2.4i setup as the V2.4i is both front and rear ported which could make placement tricky unless you have a large space. I don't think you can go wrong with either choice. If you utilize a subwoofer while listening to the V2.2i's, you should be fine.

Went and auditioned the v2.2i's last night. Didn't get very far in though, as one of the woofers was rattling a bit...likely loose. The owner apologized and is getting it looked at in the next few days & I'll return then. The speakers themselves are in pretty good shape. There's a small paste mark or something on outer part of one of the woofers, and the other is missing some screws for the tweeter / mid unifying enclosure.
Would those screws be easy to track down, like at, say, Home Depot?

Since he's taking the woofer in to (likely) get tightened, I asked him to have the worker take pictures of the woofer, so hopefully I can confirm them being "I" series.

As far as my room dimensions, ill have to measure tonight when I get home...but it is definitely a mid-to-large sized room. Think that might be an issue?
post #41715 of 51515
So i am not going to hang my RC-10's on the wall behind.

I am going to use stands for the rears.

How much does each RC-10 weight and which of these would you choose due to thier size.


http://www.amazon.com/Sanus-Systems-Natural-Foundations-Black/dp/B00005USAY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1351193383&sr=8-1&keywords=nf+sanus

http://www.amazon.com/SANUS-SYSTEMS-BF-31B-Speaker-Stands/dp/B00006JQ5O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1351193093&sr=8-1&keywords=bf31+sanus
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Originally Posted by johnb4467 View Post

Went and auditioned the v2.2i's last night. Didn't get very far in though, as one of the woofers was rattling a bit...likely loose. The owner apologized and is getting it looked at in the next few days & I'll return then. The speakers themselves are in pretty good shape. There's a small paste mark or something on outer part of one of the woofers, and the other is missing some screws for the tweeter / mid unifying enclosure.
Would those screws be easy to track down, like at, say, Home Depot?
Since he's taking the woofer in to (likely) get tightened, I asked him to have the worker take pictures of the woofer, so hopefully I can confirm them being "I" series.
As far as my room dimensions, ill have to measure tonight when I get home...but it is definitely a mid-to-large sized room. Think that might be an issue?

This sounds a bit scary to me. I personally would be a bit put off by this and probably would go look elsewhere. If your space is big enough where potentially you can put the V2.4i at least three ft from any wall, you should be fine. If I were in your shoes, I would lean toward buying the V2.2i's as well as long as they are in great shape.
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Originally Posted by torht View Post

This sounds a bit scary to me. I personally would be a bit put off by this and probably would go look elsewhere. If your space is big enough where potentially you can put the V2.4i at least three ft from any wall, you should be fine. If I were in your shoes, I would lean toward buying the V2.2i's as well as long as they are in great shape.

I'm slightly confused...the 2.2i's were what I auditioned last night that the woofer was rattling a bit in...but that seller is looking to fix & was missing a few screws in the tweeter / mid enclosure. you mentioned looking elsewhere, but then at the end said go for them if theyre in good shape...just trying to clarify.
Sadly, The 2.4's I can't afford @ $1,800 for the set -- just too much to spend at once.
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Originally Posted by Sound Engineer View Post

eek.gif Are you nuts? You could pop the tweeter that way.

No...He's not nuts. I have done this with great results.
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Originally Posted by johnb4467 View Post

I'm slightly confused...the 2.2i's were what I auditioned last night that the woofer was rattling a bit in...but that seller is looking to fix & was missing a few screws in the tweeter / mid enclosure. you mentioned looking elsewhere, but then at the end said go for them if theyre in good shape...just trying to clarify.
Sadly, The 2.4's I can't afford @ $1,800 for the set -- just too much to spend at once.

I meant look for another pair of V2.2i's. Personally, I am fine with speakers that are not in perfect condition cosmetically. However, since the issues you mentioned are with the woofer and drivers, I am hesitant buying speakers that may have mechanical issues. I don't understand how one of the tweeter and midrange modules is missing screws. Did the seller replace the module and did not use all the screws? You have to make up your own mind if they are worth it.
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Anybody looking for an RC-LCR new in the box? I was in a store in Tulsa called Video Revolution today and they are closing out all of their Energy speakers at half price. The sales guy took me back in their warehouse because he didn't know exactly what was there and they had one RC-LCR up high so I couldn't tell if it was black or cherry. Also several RC-R's were there. They had C50's in cherry and tons of in wall speakers. They also had two V2.0Ci's and some V2.0Ri's. No RC-10's and the last pair of RC-70' had been sold with no grills. I didn't ask prices because I was afraid I would buy a bunch of stuff. They had no current C series speakers. I thought somebody on here might like to know about the RC-LCR at the very least. All in all there was quite a bit of stuff there and they had nothing on the showroom floor so I might have missed something.
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One upset veritas owner…

So I received the new Veritas 6.2 in rosenut I ordered from Vanns last week with great excitement. After opening them up I found two big dents/scratches (about 1 inch size) toward the back side on one of the speakers! The dents are so bad that the finish and paint are completely off. Man this is very frustrating. Back when I ordered them I saw there were open box ones for much cheaper but I figured I need to pay the extra to buy new for the gorgeous look of the rosenut finish. Now what I got…these beautiful speakers make the damage even more depressing. Had this happen to my old polk monitors I don’t think I’d mind much.

Now for all you gurus ordered from Vanns before, how’s their customer service? Can’t wait for tomorrow morning to give them a call!
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Originally Posted by torht View Post

I meant look for another pair of V2.2i's. Personally, I am fine with speakers that are not in perfect condition cosmetically. However, since the issues you mentioned are with the woofer and drivers, I am hesitant buying speakers that may have mechanical issues. I don't understand how one of the tweeter and midrange modules is missing screws. Did the seller replace the module and did not use all the screws? You have to make up your own mind if they are worth it.

Yeah, the missing screws is very odd...as I can't think of any reasons those would be taken out unless they needed internal tinkering / repair -- they aren't run-of-the-mill screws (believe they're hex screws?). The rattling woofer isn't very encouraging.
The current seller had acquired the 2.2i's a few years ago (also on craigslist), and claims the speaker screws were missing when he purchased them.

Another set of 2.2i's just popped up today; contacted that seller, so hopefully will hear back soon. No pics posted though.

I'd really love to have 2.4's, but those seem to run quite high...not surprisingly though. Bummer that I can't sell my speakers first...and then know that I'd be able to find the 'ones I want' afterwards, haha -- it's pretty much "buy, and then hope you can sell what you already had to make it up". wink.gif

Thanks again for your feedback and thoughts; it's good to have this resource to look to!
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Originally Posted by rrich999 View Post

Anybody looking for an RC-LCR new in the box? I was in a store in Tulsa called Video Revolution today and they are closing out all of their Energy speakers at half price. The sales guy took me back in their warehouse because he didn't know exactly what was there and they had one RC-LCR up high so I couldn't tell if it was black or cherry. Also several RC-R's were there. They had C50's in cherry and tons of in wall speakers. They also had two V2.0Ci's and some V2.0Ri's. No RC-10's and the last pair of RC-70' had been sold with no grills. I didn't ask prices because I was afraid I would buy a bunch of stuff. They had no current C series speakers. I thought somebody on here might like to know about the RC-LCR at the very least. All in all there was quite a bit of stuff there and they had nothing on the showroom floor so I might have missed something.

Found their website, I don't know how much of this stuff is actually in stock, and you have to call for pricing, but it might be worth a try for somebody looking for something specific. They have quite a bit of stuff listed.

http://videorevolution.com/_CGI/SEARCH3?MAN=ENERGY&POS=0

Oops, forgot link lol^^ there ya go
Edited by Gmash - 10/25/12 at 7:02pm
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Originally Posted by Gmash View Post

Found their website, I don't know how much of this stuff is actually in stock, and you have to call for pricing, but it might be worth a try for somebody looking for something specific. They have quite a bit of stuff listed.

Yep. I'll just say this:

LOOK. RC-Rs!

And I'm sure someone will be calling them tomorrow. (lol)

smile.gif
post #41725 of 51515
not just RC-R's but V2.0Ri also! It's surround madness!

wonder what the pricing was on both of these?
post #41726 of 51515
That would be a cool store, if they have a quarter of the stock that they have listed.
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I finally found a good enough deal to make it worth picking up the Veritas 6.3 to try. $2200 all in up here is a pretty decent score, and this fit on my interest free card, so I have nothing to lose if I return them.
Right out of the box I am surprised. They are different than what I expected. I wasn't sure if I would even bother unboxing both of the 6.3 speakers, but I am now interested and looking forward to hooking them up to a powerful amp and comparing against other speakers. They sound better than what I was expecting.
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Originally Posted by Hank Mardukous View Post

I finally found a good enough deal to make it worth picking up the Veritas 6.3 to try. $2200 all in up here is a pretty decent score, and this fit on my interest free card, so I have nothing to lose if I return them.
Right out of the box I am surprised. They are different than what I expected. I wasn't sure if I would even bother unboxing both of the 6.3 speakers, but I am now interested and looking forward to hooking them up to a powerful amp and comparing against other speakers. They sound better than what I was expecting.

A pair of 6.3 for $2200? Some seller are currently listing these for $1500 a pair on ebay. Sure it won't be that easy or free if you want to return, but still $700 different is a lot of cash..
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Originally Posted by internet seeker View Post

Any suggestions on how to fix the dent in the tweeter? Not too bad for 3 years with twins around them! This is on an rc-10. Wondering if I can undo the screws and push it out from the inside with a q-tip.

I had this happen to me when replacing a tweeter for an RC 50. As the other poster says use a vacuum. (the hose attachment to any floor vacuum will do). it really works!!!

(with the bad tweeter i experimented... tried it twice by pushing in the dome part and using the vacuum to pop it back out.)
post #41730 of 51515
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

not just RC-R's but V2.0Ri also! It's surround madness!
wonder what the pricing was on both of these?

WOW. Would totally grab the RC-R's
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